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[R2s Muse]

Not at all; there's absolutely no evidence as of yet to suggest that Cass was ever a templar.

True. But I wouldn't be surprised if she did have some Templar abilities at this point in her life.

No evidence about her specifically. However, there is the highly circumstantial fact that Mike Laidlaw said, as part of the "making of Dawn of the Seeker" interviews, that most Seekers are drawn from the best of the best of the templars. Ergo... even if she specifically isn't one, most Seekers were templars. Hard to imagine templar skills wouldn't be of use to these people and their extreme-apostate chasing. 

[R2s Muse]

I'm quite hopeful about the system. The fact that Gaider expressed reservations about it in the past suggests he knows the problems a non-companion romance can have. If they chose to implement one anyway, I'd hope that they'd know what to avoid doing.

This is also my thought. DA:I now has the advantage of seeing how things worked in ME, in addition to knowing their own game and how/how not to implement. I'm hopeful it won't end up feeling like, um, punching a romance card. Ahem. 

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Yeah, I think given the important role advisers seem to have in this game, it has the potential to be just as worthwhile to romance one as to romance a follower.

 

I mean the advisers were given equal position with companions in the group shot at the end of the trailer, so they definitely are more than just NPCs in the background.

[deuce985]

I might be in the minority with this but I've always felt Bioware games are fairly shallow with romance and it's not believable at all. I really wouldn't mind seeing them develop a relationship more to be more believable. What was that game...I think it was Baldur's Gate 2? You could actually have a baby with the LI but it was done in a fashion like she was really pregnant. I can't remember 100% because it's been awhile since I played that game but I don't think you could take her into combat. You had to wait until the expansion before she had a baby too. I think. You would carry the baby around in this little satchel in your inventory too if I remember right. I know it seems very awkward and weird but I felt that added a lot more depth to a relationship for me. Not sure Bioware would ever do something like that again because of the sensitive nature behind pregnancy but I thought it was a really cool touch.

 

Like, rolling around in underwear garments is just weird and a few conversations we're already in the sack. I would prefer them get rid of the weird underwear scenes and just do either fade to black or make it more tasteful. I would like to see relationships built up more too. It just doesn't seem like you have enough interaction with your LI before it's like you're my love of my life.

[SamaraDraven]

I... really don't agree that having a baby makes a relationship more real. And I found Baldur's Gate good for its time but not on par with DA. That's just my take on it.

[R2s Muse]

I might be in the minority with this but I've always felt Bioware games are fairly shallow with romance and it's not believable at all. I really wouldn't mind seeing them develop a relationship more to be more believable. What was that game...I think it was Baldur's Gate 2? You could actually have a baby with the LI but it was done in a fashion like she was really pregnant. I can't remember 100% because it's been awhile since I played that game but I don't think you could take her into combat. You had to wait until the expansion before she had a baby too. I think. You would carry the baby around in this little satchel in your inventory too if I remember right. I know it seems very awkward and weird but I felt that added a lot more depth to a relationship for me. Not sure Bioware would ever do something like that again because of the sensitive nature behind pregnancy but I thought it was a really cool touch.

 

Like, rolling around in underwear garments is just weird and a few conversations we're already in the sack. I would prefer them get rid of the weird underwear scenes and just do either fade to black or make it more tasteful. I would like to see relationships built up more too. It just doesn't seem like you have enough interaction with your LI before it's like you're my love of my life.

Valid criticisms (altho Airie's baby is kind of a low blow ).  Whelp, soon we'll see more "complex" and "realistic" romances. LOL Whatever that means.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Whelp, soon we'll see more "complex" and "realistic" romances. LOL Whatever that means.

 

It means you and your LI will fight about money and who will take out the trash. 

[Jynxed_]

Having a baby in-game seems like a Fable thing...and I personally hated the whole, get married get a house have a baby, system in Fable...it just seemed tacky. I like the way Bioware does romances, preferably DAO minus the gifts.

[deuce985]

Valid criticisms (altho Airie's baby is kind of a low blow ).  Whelp, soon we'll see more "complex" and "realistic" romances. LOL Whatever that means.

 

I don't know, it just seems to me Bioware doesn't put much if any focus on them. It's more of a fan requested thing that's a second thought to them. Like, they put so much effort into characters building believable relationships between each other why not be like that for LIs?

 

And that might be a bad example I'm just saying it was something different from what I've seen in a game but it's a very real issue someone would have to tackle if they were in that situation. Especially if your journey was lasting months or years.

[deuce985]

Having a baby in-game seems like a Fable thing...and I personally hated the whole, get married get a house have a baby, system in Fable...it just seemed tacky. I like the way Bioware does romances, preferably DAO minus the gifts.

 

Yea, I don't like Fable very much. Probably a bad example that I used and should've articulated it better lol. I just find them overly simple in most Bioware games. It's like dang, if only it was that easy irl...

[R2s Muse]

It means you and your LI will fight about money and who will take out the trash. 

Bwahaha! 

 

1 - Take me now, you stud.

2 - Naw, not tonight. You ate onions.

3 - ***Snore***

[Jynxed_]

Yea, I don't like Fable very much. Probably a bad example that I used and should've articulated it better lol. I just find them overly simple in most Bioware games. It's like dang, if only it was that easy irl...

Dude....its a fantasy game, its supposed to be simple , although I'm curious as to how they plan on making it a "deeper" process or whatever they said :3

[SamaraDraven]

I don't know, it just seems to me Bioware doesn't put much if any focus on them. It's more of a fan requested thing that's a second thought to them. Like, they put so much effort into characters building believable relationships between each other why not be like that for LIs?

 

And that might be a bad example I'm just saying it was something different from what I've seen in a game but it's a very real issue someone would have to tackle if they were in that situation. Especially if your journey was lasting months or years.

 

I think it's because you're developing a romantic rapport as you're also getting to know them and be friends. Most relationships with someone you just met that can become romantic, do so pretty early on. So, as that friendship builds, so too do deeper feelings. Now can Bioware pace it a bit better? I think so. But I wouldn't expect to meet a character, max out friendship and then start anew on a romance. I dunno... I'm not explaining very well, but I think both friendship and romances weren't paced very well in DA2.

[R2s Muse]

I don't know, it just seems to me Bioware doesn't put much if any focus on them. It's more of a fan requested thing that's a second thought to them. Like, they put so much effort into characters building believable relationships between each other why not be like that for LIs?

 

And that might be a bad example I'm just saying it was something different from what I've seen in a game but it's a very real issue someone would have to tackle if they were in that situation. Especially if your journey was lasting months or years.

I don't think I'd call it fanservice (which is really what it means for something to be added because of fan requests, right?). BW pioneered adding romances to their stories long before fans clamored for it. Fans clamored BECAUSE BW did them. And did them well on the whole. Sure, I feel like they're a bit embarrassed at  how much the fans like them, but if they didn't feel there was some value, I think they'd skip 'em. 

 

That being said, the structure of the romances do tend to end in success == sex. But that's hardly a BW-only problem in writing romance in popular fiction. Overall, I think  part of what makes them work is that the actual romance budgeted part is small compared to the friendship. The friendship and connection with the followers is what sells the relationships. Something I mentioned in the past few days is how the initial convos with Alistair at Ostagar aren't actually the romance... but it feels like an organic part of your relationship with him. So, overall, I think the romances generally work well, with obvious caveats, specific issues, etcetc. 

 

(and that was probably only partially coherent as it's pumpkin time for me... nighty night!)

[SamaraDraven]

Having a baby in-game seems like a Fable thing...and I personally hated the whole, get married get a house have a baby, system in Fable...it just seemed tacky. I like the way Bioware does romances, preferably DAO minus the gifts.

 

I found Fable's "romances" soooo tacky! Just for sh!ts & giggles, I married someone, then went out and flirted up someone else until they were willing to come home with me and then wooed them in front of my spouse! lol! It was funny. I was very very bored.

[CuriousArtemis]

Dude....its a fantasy game, its supposed to be simple , although I'm curious as to how they plan on making it a "deeper" process or whatever they said :3

 

"Deeper" hurr hurr

[CuriousArtemis]

I think it's because you're developing a romantic rapport as you're also getting to know them and be friends. Most relationships with someone you just met that can become romantic, do so pretty early on. So, as that friendship builds, so too do deeper feelings. Now can Bioware pace it a bit better? I think so. But I wouldn't expect to meet a character, max out friendship and then start anew on a romance. I dunno... I'm not explaining very well, but I think both friendship and romances weren't paced very well in DA2.

 

I used to see this criticism A LOT, and I always vehemently disagreed with it... because I had only romanced Fenris. After awhile, I branched out (lol) and sampled the other three lovelies, and I began to understand what people were talking about. 

 

But I still stand by my opinion that the Fenris romance is well done, well-written, and wonderfully paced.

[ilikesocks]

k.. think im gonna start the trilogy again...

It's addictive, right?! Even talking about it this morning with SeeTheFlickers got me downloading the first Mass Effect from previous downloads in the Playstation Store about an hour ago,

 

I'm still working on this 2nd platinum for DAO & DA2, but, might as well throw ME in the mix. It's been a while since I looked at my sweetheart Kaidan.

[Jynxed_]

"Deeper" hurr hurr

ew no  :3

[CuriousArtemis]

I found Fable's "romances" soooo tacky! Just for sh!ts & giggles, I married someone, then went out and flirted someone else up until they were willing to come home with me and then wooed them in front of my spouse! lol! It was funny. I was very very bored.

 

Wow, even Sims romances are more complex and reactive than that! I love it when I'm playing a couple, and somebody comes and flirts with one partner; the other partner comes storming in and is all, GTFO  I love it LOL

[ilikesocks]

One of the advantages of playing on the PC is that I got to download the fan-created MEHEM (Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod). The Reapers were destroyed, synthetic life did not have to die, my BroShep was rescued on the Citadel and was reunited with his LI Kaidan aboard the Normandy.

 

With all the things my Shepard went through he deserves some happiness dammit! 

Y'all kill me with all of your super frickin' awesome mods for PC. I'll just be over here...playing the base game with the default pony tail and in-game armor on my console.

 

But at least I have a PS4. Yeah well, that doesn't matter, either.

[Jean]

I can just imagine a huffy!Inquisitor: "Why didn't you respond to each of my 1,000 weekly letters? We're going to seriously need to work on our communication skills if I'm out working and you're taking care of home!"

[BevH]

Y'all kill me with all of your super frickin' awesome mods for PC. I'll just be over here...playing the base game with the default pony tail and in-game armor on my console.

 

But at least I have a PS4. Yeah well, that doesn't matter, either.

Aww... don't cry! I play the game on PC and haven't gotten any mods... and probably won't. I still found the game very enjoyable.

 

On another note, Sheryl Chee favorited a tweet of mine!

[SamaraDraven]

I used to see this criticism A LOT, and I always vehemently disagreed with it... because I had only romanced Fenris. After awhile, I branched out (lol) and sampled the other three lovelies, and I began to understand what people were talking about. 

 

But I still stand by my opinion that the Fenris romance is well done, well-written, and wonderfully paced.

 

Okay... Maybe Fenris wasn't sooo terrible at pacing but I found Anders and Isabela dreadful! I couldn't finish Merrill's but I remember what seemed like an innocuous convo having only flirt options as a "good" response. The rest were kind of... d!ckish. Like where were the decent friendship options? And with DAO, I found Zevran's romance too quick but I guess that's how he rolls! lol! And Leliana got ideas from my friendly responses! And with Alistair, I recall there being a couple of times that the only responses that didn't upset him were romance ones. Again: where are the decent friendship replies? Overall, I think Bioware does romances better than any other game I've played. I'd much prefer they were made more "real" by improving the pace and dialogue and companion reactions to your choices, rather than giving us a house, a spouse or offspring. It's a fantasy/adventure RPG in which the fate of the world hangs in the balance - I ain't got time to plan a wedding, mow the lawn or change diapers. I did/do that already IRL. haha!

[Hellion Rex]

Y'all kill me with all of your super frickin' awesome mods for PC. I'll just be over here...playing the base game with the default pony tail and in-game armor on my console.

 

But at least I have a PS4. Yeah well, that doesn't matter, either.

Hey, now! Buck up! PS4 is gonna make DAI look damn good, and at the very least, you and I can enjoy playing it on a big ass flat screen TV.