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....I just ran into a level 30 Despair demon...................................

 

o_____________________O

Um, yeah, and I want this DLC why? (not someone who plays for the p*****g contest achievements, lol)

 

And...I finally got an hour to play, and the patch broke my game. Completely. I surrendered and got my daughter to help me get it working (and there's nothing worse than rolled eyes and "Sheesh Mom, you're a computer nerd. Didn't I show you 'repair game' once before?")



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Well I see the cult of cullen is still strong as ever :P

Found a curious little vid while on YT, figured it'd makes the biggest splash here


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....I just ran into a level 30 Despair demon...................................

 

o_____________________O

 

You made a friend! How adorable! LOL! :P



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Two nifty plot-sensitive references in the DLC (not spoilery, just a couple lines):

 

Re. Champions of the Just:

Spoiler

 

Re, the Well of Sorrows:

Spoiler

 

That last one is... huh. Interesting.

 

Also, general thumbs up for bringing Sera and Dorian around in this DLC. They both have some pretty interesting stuff to say about the Avaar. (Blackwall's got nothing, for the record. Might swap him for Cassandra instead, she ought've some commentary on the Inquisitor subplot at least?)


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There is no shame in playing on casual! I will never claim the hard and nightmare achievements... and Cullen still loves me even so.

 

And there is nothing wrong with that. I still do not have any of the Templar achievements on DA2 and never will get them. Side with the Templars? Yeah right.

 

There just achievements. Its not like Ed Mcmahon is going to bang on your door and give you a check for getting them.

 

Though that would be cool. :P



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Two nifty plot-sensitive references in the DLC (not spoilery, just a couple lines):

 

Re. Champions of the Just:

Spoiler

 

Re, the Well of Sorrows:

Spoiler

 

That last one is... huh. Interesting.

 

Also, general thumbs up for bringing Sera and Dorian around in this DLC. They both have some pretty interesting stuff to say about the Avaar. (Blackwall's got nothing, for the record. Might swap him for Cassandra instead, she ought've some commentary on the Inquisitor subplot at least?)

 

Spoiler

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Two nifty plot-sensitive references in the DLC (not spoilery, just a couple lines):

Re. Champions of the Just:

Spoiler


Re, the Well of Sorrows:
Spoiler


That last one is... huh. Interesting.

Also, general thumbs up for bringing Sera and Dorian around in this DLC. They both have some pretty interesting stuff to say about the Avaar. (Blackwall's got nothing, for the record. Might swap him for Cassandra instead, she ought've some commentary on the Inquisitor subplot at least?)

YOU NEED TO SWITCH IN CASSANDRA NOW.
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Hi guys! :) Can anyone tell me if we have a confirmed source on Cullen's "mane" being bear fur?



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I'm playing the DLC on casual and still getting my butt kicked occasionally. I did ignore the level 20 recommendation, though, I'm trying to pull this through with my level 18 Solasmancing rift mage.

 

I accidentally walked into a rift and was attacked by several level 26 demons. It was pretty brutal. Really don't want to meet that level 30 demon.



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Hi guys! :) Can anyone tell me if we have a confirmed source on Cullen's "mane" being bear fur?

 

Yes it is fur. Bear fur in fact.

 

Its suppose to represent a lion's mane. :D



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Yes it is fur. Bear fur in fact.

 

Its suppose to represent a lion's mane. :D

 

Thanks! :) Yeah, I got the lion's mane analogy, I just thought it would make more sense if it was actually lion mane (or the Thedosian equivalent). I was wondering where it was confirmed as bear fur? Because I did a search and couldn't find anything that wasn't fanon.



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Thanks! :) Yeah, I got the lion's mane analogy, I just thought it would make more sense if it was actually lion mane (or the Thedosian equivalent). I was wondering where it was confirmed as bear fur? Because I did a search and couldn't find anything that wasn't fanon.

 

If I remember right, someone asked Bri and she responded it was bear fur.

 

 

edit:

 

Cullen is from Fereldan. Within that country they use a lot furs for dress and decoration. It may also reflect where he hails from.

 

Its possible that the reason its not a true lion's mane is because Orlais country has a lion as its symbol. They may not allow the killing of lions nor look to kindly on those who wear anything pertaining to a lion. Much like India people with cows - though not in a religious sense.


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If I remember right, someone asked Bri and she responded it was bear fur.

 

That makes sense. Thank you again! :)


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....I just ran into a level 30 Despair demon...................................

 

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Yesterday I ran into 3 level 30 demons. I've never run so fast in my life!  :lol:


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Hi guys! :) Can anyone tell me if we have a confirmed source on Cullen's "mane" being bear fur?

Yes, Lola asked one of the devs and it was confirmed as bear fur dyed with red spots.

 

As far as the lion thing... clearly it's trying to *look* like a mane the way the artists designed it. However, there are many lines of evidence that point to a lion-Cullen connection being hooey. There's a whole codex added to DA:I on the Lion of Orlais, the only point of which seems to be emphasizing that the lion is an Orlesian symbol.  Besides the fact that the helmet was only included in the early trailers to hide a glitch in his mouth animation. 

 

The DA RPG set includes information on red lions, which may or may not have an been an inspiration. 

 

A search on most of these terms in the thread will provide LOTS of information, as it has been much discussed. 


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Thanks! :) Yeah, I got the lion's mane analogy, I just thought it would make more sense if it was actually lion mane (or the Thedosian equivalent). I was wondering where it was confirmed as bear fur? Because I did a search and couldn't find anything that wasn't fanon.

 

Actually, since the lion helmet never made it into the game, and we know from Mike's own mouth that it was never designed for Cullen (it was a last minute trick to hide his animation issues in the trailer), it's the lion analogy that's entirely fanon now. ;) Cullen's had the fur pauldrons for as long as his concept art, predating the helmet trick, so it wasn't meant to be a lion at concept - it was more likely a visual reference to him being Fereldan (fur is often used by the art team in iconic Fereldan designs, like Hawke's Champion armor, King Alistair's signature armor, Loghain's River Dane armor, etc).

 

eta: oops, :ph34r: 'd by R2.


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Yes, Lola asked one of the devs and it was confirmed as bear fur dyed with red spots.

 

As far as the lion thing... clearly it's trying to *look* like a mane the way the artists designed it. However, there are many lines of evidence that point to a lion-Cullen connection being hooey. There's a whole codex added to DA:I on the Lion of Orlais, the only point of which seems to be emphasizing that the lion is an Orlesian symbol.  Besides the fact that the helmet was only included in the early trailers to hide a glitch in his mouth animation. 

 

The DA RPG set includes information on red lions, which may or may not have an been an inspiration. 

 

A search on most of these terms in the thread will provide LOTS of information, as it has been much discussed. 

 

I must of missed that somewhere! Kinda shame really... well for some people, I didn't mind it and kinda found it hot. Wasn't a fan of the Orlesian connection people felt/saw with it so in another way glad to find out it was just to cover up a glitch. I think some form of helmet would of been nice even if just sitting on his desk or on an armour stand in his office.


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Actually, since the lion helmet never made it into the game, and we know from Mike's own mouth that it was never designed for Cullen (it was a last minute trick to hide his animation issues in the trailer), it's the lion analogy that's entirely fanon now. ;) Cullen's had the fur pauldrons for as long as his concept art, predating the helmet trick, so it wasn't meant to be a lion at concept - it was more likely a visual reference to him being Fereldan (fur is often used by the art team in iconic Fereldan designs, like Hawke's Champion armor, King Alistair's signature armor, Loghain's River Dane armor, etc).

 

eta: oops, :ph34r: 'd by R2.

This is also a good point, since it was less mane-like back then. :shrug: It always just looked like a 'I live in a cold climate like Ferelden' Game of Thrones-like fur trim. 

 

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I must of missed that somewhere! Kinda shame really... well for some people, I didn't mind it and kinda found it hot. Wasn't a fan of the Orlesian connection people felt/saw with it so in another way glad to find out it was just to cover up a glitch. I think some form of helmet would of been nice even if just sitting on his desk or on an armour stand in his office.

Yeah, someone asked MLaw at a panel why Cullen's helmet was removed. At first the response was a blank stare, like "what lion helmet?" and then Mike seemed to recall that they had just jammed a helmet on his head to hide the glitch. 


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You rock!!  Sadly... I dropped out. I just can't write on a schedule these days. So I am disappoint. I'm SO glad you're participating!! <3

 

That's too bad :(

 

But well, it's true that keeping such commitments is not the same with doing things on our own pace. And say, we're still on "Dreams" for the 6K right? Rona is still on her phoenix thing though. Can't wait to see what she'll make out of it.

 

Hehe I'm still not sure for the BB actually, it'll depend on how things are going for me when the time will come. I'll just see if there's anything really interesting that goes below 5K words (tbh I won't try to read 10k words on one go). The admins say that the last confirmation to commit is when the artists will be choosing the story pairing. And since I don't do anything NSFW (for the simple lack of knowledge of how to draw human body below the chest...)

 

....I just ran into a level 30 Despair demon...................................

 

o_____________________O

 

What??? But we can't go up to level 30!!! OMG...

 

Hmmm I don't know if I want to play that before end-game or post-game. I want to finish my Luthiel playthrough in Nightmare...

 

YOU NEED TO SWITCH IN CASSANDRA NOW.

 

Any suggestions on which companions to bring for best comments & banters? Cass then?

 

This is also a good point, since it was less mane-like back then. :shrug: It always just looked like a 'I live in a cold climate like Ferelden' Game of Thrones-like fur trim. 

 

cullen-concept-orig.png

 

Weird as it may seem I really love his more battered & older appearance on the concept art...

 

And... he looks a bit like Samson on the concept art tbh.

 

EDIT: did anyone remember the link of Jon Snow from GoT wearing Cullen's Armour & Cullen wearing Jon Snow's Nightwatch black outfit??? The latter was a fully illustrated scene with Cullen going outside the Wall. It was pale blue scene.

 

I saw it on the net once and can't find it once again. Also I saw a series of drawing of "Aging Cullen", from Cullen!Kid (12 years old) to teenage!Cullen to DA:O!Cullen to DA:I Cullen, Middle Age Cullen and Old Cullen. Can't find it anymore... It was a friend of mine who showed that and she lost the link.


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Any suggestions on which companions to bring for best comments & banters? Cass then?


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Ceru, bring Cole, Cass, and perhaps Dorian/Solas.
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Does anybody know if the modders are having any luck getting around Patch 6? The only way I can install the DLC is if I play without mods and I wouldn't want to do that. All I use are texture mods, but I can't stand the thought of Rhiannon having runaway eyebrows.  :(



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For

 

DLC, sorry.

 

Ceru, bring Cole, Cass, and perhaps Dorian/Solas.

 

Oooh thanks! They are my usual team anyway ;)



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Yeah, someone asked MLaw at a panel why Cullen's helmet was removed. At first the response was a blank stare, like "what lion helmet?" and then Mike seemed to recall that they had just jammed a helmet on his head to hide the glitch. 

Kind of funny that they completely missed that it had caused a stir and tons of speculation though :lol:


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