Not *nearly* as comprehensive, but here's my folder
http://s1121.photobu...y/DA2/sebastian
With a shot from one of my fave, 'I only choose it for science' scene.
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And the other, on-topic scene it inspired.(...and possible inspiration for his DA:I tic...? only his hairdresser knows for sure...
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It's fun making them all flustered and such. 
Happy Easter to you all.
Did someone say... Sebastian?
Profile and deep angles:
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Frontal angles:
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Some armor reference:
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+ Album here, with more poses and angles.
Happy Seb Appreciation Week for the like five of us who love him!
Six people...I love Sebastian. Honestly, I was ready to throw poor Fenris under the bus as soon as I saw him shoot an arrow at the chanter's board, lol. Unfortunately his romance arc in DA2 really aggrevates me. As I'm not much for rivalmancing at all and the "married to Andraste" option was a big "NO" (sorry babe, I want some sexy-times, Andraste can stuff it! ) So, for my characters I have fill in the aggrevating bits with a lot of headcanon (ah well).
Edit: Oh and Happy Easter!
Six people...I love Sebastian. Honestly, I was ready to throw poor Fenris under the bus as soon as I saw him shoot an arrow at the chanter's board, lol. Unfortunately his romance arc in DA2 really aggrevates me. As I'm not much for rivalmancing at all and the "married to Andraste" option was a big "NO" (sorry babe, I want some sexy-times, Andraste can stuff it!
Edit: Oh and Happy Easter!
Well... whether you go friendship path or rivalry path he'll be the Prince of Starkhaven in DA:I no IIRC?
Well... whether you go friendship path or rivalry path he'll be the Prince of Starkhaven in DA:I no IIRC?
I only got him to be Prince in DA2 by going rivalry path. I just couldn't get the same dialogue options going friendship path in DA2 (I was doing it wrong maybe?). However with Dragon Keep (via DA:I) I can make him Prince and at least headcanon that I took the friendship path. So, yeah, I suppose DA:I has made it possible.
Unfortunately his romance arc in DA2 really aggrevates me. (...) So, for my characters I have fill in the aggrevating bits with a lot of headcanon (ah well).
Yeah, his romance arc was really thin and awkwardly written no matter how you prefer it. I, for one, love the chaste romance, and it aggravates me to no end that every single one of Hawke's flirts is so hypersexualized and disrespectful of his vows, so I basically mute the volume and substitute all of her lines with something more appropriate in my head. Either way, there's not enough character development shown onscreen (all of his development is understated through codex entries and offscreen references) to build a solid base for the romance, so no matter how you like him, I think "fill in with lots of headcanon" is the prerogative of anyone who romances Seb. 
I only got him to be Prince in DA2 by going rivalry path. I just couldn't get the same dialogue options going friendship path in DA2 (I was doing it wrong maybe?). However with Dragon Keep (via DA:I) I can make him Prince and at least headcanon that I took the friendship path. So, yeah, I suppose DA:I has made it possible.
I think Ceru is referencing the fact that, no matter how you romance Sebastian (or even if you romance him at all), he will always retake Starkhaven by the time of Inquisition. Even if you take the friendship path throughout DA2 and convince him to stay in the Chantry for the time being, by the time Inquisition happens (four years after DA2 ends) Sebastian has reconciled his role in the Chantry with his duty to his family and is now the Prince of Starkhaven, one way or another.
Personally, I love this conclusion. I always thought it was a bit BS that Sebastian wasn't allowed to have his faith and his duty and the woman he loved, he always had to sacrifice one or the other because... reasons? For a guy who's lost everything twice, it's nice that he's actually had a happy ending where he got to keep all the things that were important to him this time.
Six people...I love Sebastian. Honestly, I was ready to throw poor Fenris under the bus as soon as I saw him shoot an arrow at the chanter's board, lol. Unfortunately his romance arc in DA2 really aggrevates me. As I'm not much for rivalmancing at all and the "married to Andraste" option was a big "NO" (sorry babe, I want some sexy-times, Andraste can stuff it!
Edit: Oh and Happy Easter!
I love Sebastian's character, but I personally consider someone sworn to religion/celibacy like that to exclude any possibility of romance for any character I'd run. Partly because no characters I run are ever particularly pro-chantry (religious, yes, but that's very different) and partly because they'd consider that oath a "do not enter" sign that made them keep a firm distance from him, especially emotionally, whatever they think of the oath itself. A lot really depends on the kind of characters you like to run and how you headcannon things. Note that I wouldn't have any particular problem romancing an asexual NPC because it's an entirely different situation.
Sebastian is my favorite DA:2 romance and my "standard" Keep choice. I always end up going the rivalry path with him though. I tried the friendship path once and I could never get it to fit any of my Hawke girlies - it's just not for me. Then again, I always go rival with Fenris too - and Anders. I guess I have a theme. 
Well... whether you go friendship path or rivalry path he'll be the Prince of Starkhaven in DA:I no IIRC?
I don't think he does. I do remember getting 2 different messages from him depending on if he was rivaled or friendship'd and he definitely doesn't attack Kirkwall in all my WS, plus I remember two different conversations with Hawke about him as romanced either way. Though saying that, whether you kill Anders or not affects that as well.
I don't think he does. I do remember getting 2 different messages from him depending on if he was rivaled or friendship'd and he definitely doesn't attack Kirkwall in all my WS, plus I remember two different conversations with Hawke about him as romanced either way. Though saying that, whether you kill Anders or not affects that as well.
The only thing that affects the missions you get from him is whether you killed Anders or not. Killing Anders will always give you the mission to rebuild Kirkwall, sparing Anders will always give you the mission to annex Kirkwall. Either way, he's always the Prince now, regardless of the mission you get.
As for what Hawke says about Sebastian, there's only one set of lines for his romance, because the Keep doesn't recognize friend or rivalry paths for any romance, only whether you romanced someone or not. If you noticed any difference, it may also have come from the choice between killing or sparing Anders, because sparing him breaks off your romance with Sebastian at the Keep, and in this case Hawke will just use the generic "didn't romance anyone" dialogue.
The only thing that affects the missions you get from him is whether you killed Anders or not. Killing Anders will always give you the mission to rebuild Kirkwall, sparing Anders will always give you the mission to annex Kirkwall.
As for what Hawke says about Sebastian, there's only one set of lines for his romance, because the Keep doesn't recognize friend or rivalry paths for any romance, only whether you romanced someone or not. If you noticed any difference, it may also have come from the choice between killing or sparing Anders, because sparing him breaks off your romance with Sebastian at the Keep, and in this case Hawke will just use the generic "didn't romance anyone" dialogue.
Hmmm, I could have sworn there was one for if he was trying to take back his 'throne' it still being in contention and another about him being with the Chantry, but I won't swear to this as now I am not so sure.
I've never romanced him and spared Anders so I didn't know about how the keep read that.
Hmmm, I could have sworn there was one for if he was trying to take back his 'throne' it still being in contention and another about him being with the Chantry, but I won't swear to this as now I am not so sure.
I've never romanced him and spared Anders so I didn't know about how the keep read that.
Ah yes, but those are all true. He is Prince (he's taken the throne, signs as Prince, and offers you coin from the coffers of Starkhaven as reward), but at the same time a romanced Hawke will mention the throne is still under contention. Presumably by the relatives of Goran; they had the throne for at least the seven years Sebastian spent in Kirkwall deciding what to do, they wouldn't just be fine with Sebastian killing Goran and taking the throne back like that.
And at the same time that all of that is happening, Sebastian also now holds a position as "advisor" in the Chantry, as also mentioned by Hawke. He can't be Prince and Brother at the same time, but he's very faithful and has all this gold now yeah, so the Chantry probably gave him a title and position to keep him around in a administrative role. That's what I meant with him getting to keep everything this time - he now has the throne, the Chantry, and Hawke.
... just something very quick on paper & ink... Reference screenshot courtesy of fontofnothing
Yay! You go, sunbeam! 
You've really been rocking these drawings.
Also, I did a thing. Again.
And my first attempt at anything NSFW is a follow-up to it. Morning Rays . I'm just gonna go hide now. *waves then zooms off*
Hmmm, I could have sworn there was one for if he was trying to take back his 'throne' it still being in contention and another about him being with the Chantry, but I won't swear to this as now I am not so sure.
I've never romanced him and spared Anders so I didn't know about how the keep read that.
Ah yes, but those are all true. He is Prince (he's taken the throne, signs as Prince, and offers you coin from the coffers of Starkhaven as reward), but at the same time a romanced Hawke will mention the throne is still under contention. Presumably by the relatives of Goran; they had the throne for at least the seven years Sebastian spent in Kirkwall deciding what to do, they wouldn't just be fine with Sebastian killing Goran and taking the throne back like that.
And at the same time that all of that is happening, Sebastian also now holds a position as "advisor" in the Chantry, as also mentioned by Hawke. He can't be Prince and Brother at the same time, but he's very faithful and has all this gold now yeah, so the Chantry probably gave him a title and position to keep him around in a administrative role. That's what I meant with him getting to keep everything this time - he now has the throne, the Chantry, and Hawke.
I agree that these lines seem like they're contradictory, but I interpret them as riverbanks does. Most times he's described as Prince, and the other things can be consistent with that (besides the fact that it has to be since the Keep never asked you whether you chaste married him or waited for the Prince). Plus, I always figured that he'd end up back in Starkhaven no matter what, anyway, since the Kirkwall Chantry and Elthina are both gone now. I just imagine that being the straw that would finally sway him toward his duty to his people since his duty to the Chantry is sort of blown up. In all cases, my romanced Hawke was with him and that was enough for me and my happydance.
I think Ceru is referencing the fact that, no matter how you romance Sebastian (or even if you romance him at all), he will always retake Starkhaven by the time of Inquisition. Even if you take the friendship path throughout DA2 and convince him to stay in the Chantry for the time being, by the time Inquisition happens (four years after DA2 ends) Sebastian has reconciled his role in the Chantry with his duty to his family and is now the Prince of Starkhaven, one way or another.
Personally, I love this conclusion. I always thought it was a bit BS that Sebastian wasn't allowed to have his faith and his duty and the woman he loved, he always had to sacrifice one or the other because... reasons? For a guy who's lost everything twice, it's nice that he's actually had a happy ending where he got to keep all the things that were important to him this time.
Ahh, I misunderstood. However that is one thing in the DA Keep that is not 100% clear to me. Angry Sebastian seems more intent on becoming prince and annexing Kirkwall than playing liason with the Chantry, while non-angry Sebastian seems more focused on the opposite (and not so much being prince).
Edit: Ahh, looks like I'm not the only one confused by this, heh. Well, thank heaven for "the headcanon" fix.
The Hawke character I have who romanced him doesn't want reconciliation with the Chantry, but a full and complete reformation. She's as religious as he is but completely disillusioned with the Chantry on multiple levels, practically anti-Chantry by the end of DA2 (but was pissed off to the extreme when Anders made things go *boom*). So I wanted a conclusion where that Hawke remained as Viscount and Sebastian retook Starkhaven and then went down this road together (no annexing, they rule both cities together as they planned to and rebuilt). This is were all that helpul headcanon comes in for me. At any rate, I'm just glad we got a bit more of Seb in DA:I even if it is just war table and bits of convo with Hawke.
Sebastian is my favorite DA:2 romance and my "standard" Keep choice. I always end up going the rivalry path with him though. I tried the friendship path once and I could never get it to fit any of my Hawke girlies - it's just not for me. Then again, I always go rival with Fenris too - and Anders. I guess I have a theme.
Sebastian isn't my standard choice though, that prize still goes to Fenris, but he's definitely an extremely close second! However, I think if the romance was more fleshed out in DA2 he could have easily have been choice #1. I just can't get into the rival ones, so I guess I'm the exact opposite as all my romances are friendship. I'm not going to get down with someone I can't stand (even if it's trying to be a love/hate kinda thing). Anders, for example, I just want to repeatedly stab in the kidneys. So he never makes it to the bedroom door, forget about the bed!
Another amazing vid Melissa. Very cool. And you can't beat Dragons!
Yay! You go, sunbeam!
Also, I did a thing. Again.
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And my first attempt at anything NSFW is a follow-up to it. Morning Rays . I'm just gonna go hide now. *waves then zooms off*
Yaaaay I'm officially Bethany's sister now since she's sunshine
Thank you noodle
Alright guys, here it is! This one isn't angsty at all. It's a reflection of Rhiannon looking back on her journey. No Coryphyfish ether - cuz dragons...
Do you also consider making more of those vids beside taking great shots?
So, since we've been talking about Sebastian Appreciation Week, and since this is related to Cullen, I thought I'd share a little drabble I once wrote and will never continue.
If anyone's ever read my opus Knight's Bloom, it features a brief Cullen-Hawke-Seb triangle, that of course eventually goes Cullen's way. I did the soul killing exercise, once upon a time, of imagining a sort of "sliding doors" alternate reality of something stopping Hawke from reconciling with Cullen at one point and instead sending her back to Sebastian. It was an interesting story... but ultimately it was too painful to do that to my favorite characters I've ever written. So I didn't finish it. Seb Appreciation Week seemed like a good time to share the beginning, which I think turned out rather nice.
Stolen Kiss: Knight's Bloom Redux
http://r2smuse.tumbl...dux-by-r2s-muse
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Sebastian isn't my standard choice though, that prize still goes to Fenris, but he's definitely an extremely close second! However, I think if the romance was more fleshed out in DA2 he could have easily have been choice #1. I just can't get into the rival ones, so I guess I'm the exact opposite as all my romances are friendship. I'm not going to get down with someone I can't stand (even if it's trying to be a love/hate kinda thing). Anders, for example, I just want to repeatedly stab in the kidneys. So he never makes it to the bedroom door, forget about the bed!
When I play DA:I, it's always Sebastian that I import. When I play DA:2, I always go with Fenris because there's more content. I want to have my cake and eat it too.
I don't look at the rival-mances as hating the person. I actually really enjoy the concept that Bioware introduced - that you can actually romance someone while not agreeing with everything they do or believe in just to keep them happy and continue the romance. I look at it as disagreeing with the person and causing them to question their actions/beliefs and possibly grow as a person in the process. They may not agree with you, but they respect you and can still love you despite not agreeing. That's like real-life love stories that I've seen - various mixed religions living happily ever after while both keeping their own faiths, and complete political polar opposites putting aside their differences because they love each other.
Take Fenris for example - you can romance him as a friend and bring him comfort and agree with his anti-mage beliefs. He is happy and he largely stays the same. Or, you can romance him as a rival and cause him to start to question his beliefs. I don't look on it as being cruel or anything. You're not being mean to him at all - you're just disagreeing with his beliefs and causing him to ultimately grow beyond them even after everything he's been through. It all depends on what type of Hawke you are playing. I totally love Mage!Hawke x Rival!Fenris. I also totally love Templar!Hawke x Friend!Fenris. In fact, one of my canon Hawkes is Templar!Hawke. You guys know how much I love Templars.
The Anders rival-mance is even more extreme. I friend-manced him once and won't ever do it again. I just saw Hawke going along with him as he got more and more nutty as the game progress. She was all oblivious and "tra la la la." Rival-Hawke on the other hand - she got his attention and he actually started to see the error of his ways. Unfortunately, it was too late by the time he realized it and Justice/Vengence had too much control over him. That romance is very sad to finish out - if Hawke executes him it's a mercy, but she kills the man she loves. If Hawke lets him live, it's a burden on her (and him). I only imported an Anders romance into DA:I once, and I got the distinct impression that Hawke was not happy at all.
The Sebastian rival-mance is a bit different. I've never been one to believe in the concept of organized religion to begin with, so I tend to accept that Sebastian can be as spiritual as he wants without giving up a physical relationship and his responsibilities with Starkhaven. All of my characters (Hawke and the IQ) believe the Chantry is stagnant and needs to change, so my Hawkes will always push him to break those chains and accept the fact that he doesn't need them to still practice his faith.
Oh, and yes - Anders does need a good stab in the kidneys. I totally love the whole "desperate rival kiss" scene where Hawke can be like "back up off my grille biotch." Better yet, she can sleep with him - and then run to Fenris.
Another amazing vid Melissa.
Thank you! The Dragons were so much more interesting to show than Coryphyfish.
So, since we've been talking about Sebastian Appreciation Week, and since this is related to Cullen, I thought I'd share a little drabble I once wrote and will never continue.
If anyone's ever read my opus Knight's Bloom, it features a brief Cullen-Hawke-Seb triangle, that of course eventually goes Cullen's way. I did the soul killing exercise, once upon a time, of imagining a sort of "sliding doors" alternate reality of something stopping Hawke from reconciling with Cullen at one point and instead sending her back to Sebastian. It was an interesting story... but ultimately it was too painful to do that to my favorite characters I've ever written. So I didn't finish it. Seb Appreciation Week seemed like a good time to share the beginning, which I think turned out rather nice.
Stolen Kiss: Knight's Bloom Redux
http://r2smuse.tumbl...dux-by-r2s-muse
I.... don't know how to feel about this...
So, since we've been talking about Sebastian Appreciation Week, and since this is related to Cullen, I thought I'd share a little drabble I once wrote and will never continue.
If anyone's ever read my opus Knight's Bloom, it features a brief Cullen-Hawke-Seb triangle, that of course eventually goes Cullen's way. I did the soul killing exercise, once upon a time, of imagining a sort of "sliding doors" alternate reality of something stopping Hawke from reconciling with Cullen at one point and instead sending her back to Sebastian. It was an interesting story... but ultimately it was too painful to do that to my favorite characters I've ever written. So I didn't finish it. Seb Appreciation Week seemed like a good time to share the beginning, which I think turned out rather nice.
Stolen Kiss: Knight's Bloom Redux
http://r2smuse.tumbl...dux-by-r2s-muse
Oooo, I hadn't read that one (I've read Knight's Bloom a couple of times...)
Do you also consider making more of those vids beside taking great shots?
I do! Let me see....I have four more planned. It's just going to take quite a bit of time because I need so much in-game footage for them. "Victoriam Speramus" took over 75 individual clips to make. And one of the ones I have planned needs romance footage from every possible relationship, so I either have to play them all, or reach out to the fandom. Who knows, maybe that's the way to go. I'm sure there's folks out there that'd love to see their IQ's incorporated into a vid - it would just be hard to keep the quality of the vid the same with all the various settings that folks use for their games. I record my games in 1080p 60 and I know a lot of folks don't. I also use SweetFX, which changes the look of the game a lot. Also, if you've noticed, there's quite a bit of flycam footage used, especially with "Familiar Taste of Poison." The good thing is that I already have songs picked out for each one. I've noticed that my music choices are very different from all the other fan-made vids I've seen so far, which is cool because I like being different.
I'm not going to give details away, but the ones I have planned are:
Reaver!Trevelyan x Cullen
Reaver!Trevelyan in general (sorta like "Victoriam Speramus" with Rhiannon)
Dalish!Lavellan x Cullen
All romance appreciation vid
And maybe you guys could convince me to do a Lavellan x Solas one - I know I'd rock it. And I know the perfect song.
Regulars in this thread need to stick around and you will see them!
I.... don't know how to feel about this...
That's about how I feel. 
It was an interesting challenge that intrigued me at first, since I'd love for Seb to have his day. sniffsniff. Then, once I got to a scene where my stomach literally hurt from the angst of what I had done to Cullen and Hawke... I had to quit. I was sobbing hysterically along with Hawke.
Oooo, I hadn't read that one (I've read Knight's Bloom a couple of times...)
It's new. Well, old. I wrote it a few years ago, but I've never published it. I liked the first part, tho, imagining Seb's goodbye scene from his point of view. So I thought I'd put a pin in it. :/
Y'all are free to hate it! 
That's about how I feel.
It's new. Well, old. I wrote it a few years ago, but I've never published it. I liked the first part, tho, imagining Seb's goodbye scene from his point of view. So I thought I'd put a pin in it. :/
Y'all are free to hate it!
I don't hate it! I love it! That's the problem, I think. That first part, seeing the breakup from his point of view... oh boy it hurts so bad. I want Sebastian to be happy with Hawke! ....but then I want Cullen to be happy with Hawke too.... well at least in this universe. If it was as simple as thinking OH WELL Cullen will be happy with Trevelyan a few years from now! but in this universe he and Hawke are just... but then Sebastian... and he was so happy there for a second... but then Cullen.. GAH. *throws self into the sun*
That's about how I feel.
It's new. Well, old. I wrote it a few years ago, but I've never published it. I liked the first part, tho, imagining Seb's goodbye scene from his point of view. So I thought I'd put a pin in it. :/
Y'all are free to hate it!
Hate it? Pffft. Prince Sebastian (as long as he isn't taking his spleen out on Kirkwall) is much more appealing to me than Brother Sebastian. Really spiritual is fine, I just don't run anyone who's going to get between someone and a vow, particularly to a god, lol.
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