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#131026
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There is no party banter with companion outside of skyhold about Cullen/Josy romance, that's too bad :(

 

 

Except the one with Dorian in the new dlc...



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Yeah, the level of romance banter is sadly lacking so far, but for Cullen, I just try to imagine that maybe making out on the battlements is more clandestine than we think and no one knows....:ph34r: :)

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Is the lack of LI banter the same for the other romances, too? So far I've only done the two 'late additions.'

 

Sera comments at least twice on Solas, and of course, Lel mentions it at the end.

 

For Cullen, besides what's been mentioned, I guess there's also the War Table banter that *doesn't* trigger if you're in a romance, where Cullen asks Leliana about Amell. So at least it's more reactivity.



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Thanks to fontofnothing for her source screenie!

Have a romantic Cullen!

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And one for OT but I like how he turned out :blush:
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#131030
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Is the lack of LI banter the same for the other romances, too? So far I've only done the two 'late additions.'

 

Sera comments at least twice on Solas, and of course, Lel mentions it at the end.

 

For Cullen, besides what's been mentioned, I guess there's also the War Table banter that *doesn't* trigger if you're in a romance, where Cullen asks Leliana about Amell. So at least it's more reactivity.

I hardly got any for the Blackwall romance. Sera and Viv were the only ones to comment, oh and Cullen does at the jail, but I hardly get any banter anyway so maybe I miss some.

 

I'm wondering if the concern over drinking from the well is romance specific with Cullen as I have only ever got that when romancing him.



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I hardly got any for the Blackwall romance. Sera and Viv were the only ones to comment, oh and Cullen does at the jail, but I hardly get any banter anyway so maybe I miss some.

 

I'm wondering if the concern over drinking from the well is romance specific with Cullen as I have only ever got that when romancing him.

 

Same here with Blackwall and Sera. Haven't done the other romances, but hardly anyone comments on those two either. I think people passing commentary on your private affairs is just not much of a thing in this game.

 

And I'm inclined to agree about the well possibly being a romance-specific comment here too, as I haven't go Cullen's concerned line about it when romancing Sera or Blackwall.



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Is the lack of LI banter the same for the other romances, too? So far I've only done the two 'late additions.'

 

Sera comments at least twice on Solas, and of course, Lel mentions it at the end.

 

For Cullen, besides what's been mentioned, I guess there's also the War Table banter that *doesn't* trigger if you're in a romance, where Cullen asks Leliana about Amell. So at least it's more reactivity.

I think some depends on who's in your party. Sera and Blackwall together will tease a romanced Solas and IQ. I'm trying to remember if I've heard a Blackwall romance tease. I think I have, but it got lost in the generally snarkiness. (BTW, I highly recommend Blackwall, Viv and Dorian if you want to listen to a lot of insults and snarkiness. It's almost as much fun as a party with Morrigan, Shale, and Zevran.) :P  My other romances aren't far enough along to actually be romances yet.

 

Edit: Actually, I believe I've seen something on YouTube with a romanced IB in a party with Cole, and Cole starts getting into some details on the relationship which may be the most extensive banter on a romance that I've seen.



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I feel a little bad about Cully Wully dating an elf.

It must be hard to even wrap his arms around that stick thin body, and sex is probably like clackety-clackety-clack.
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I feel a little bad about Cully Wully dating an elf.

It must be hard to even wrap his arms around that stick thin body, and sex is probably like clackety-clackety-clack.

 

I wonder if he fears he'll crush her... I mean it's not like he isn't three times as big as she is.  :D



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That's actually pretty accurate.

Cullen's torso probably is about three times bigger than a female elf's.

Gotta be careful not to hurt her by accident.

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I wonder if he fears he'll crush her... I mean it's not like he isn't three times as big as she is.  :D

Well, I think most of it is that mane  (which I find a bit silly tbh), and I'll admit I kinda enjoy the size difference between him and and elven lady inquizitor, but that's just me, don't mind the lurker :ph34r:


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I feel a little bad about Cully Wully dating an elf.

It must be hard to even wrap his arms around that stick thin body, and sex is probably like clackety-clackety-clack.

I prefer romancing Cullen with an elf actually. I imagine him being extra gentle and more...sensual :)


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#131038
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I feel a little bad about Cully Wully dating an elf.

It must be hard to even wrap his arms around that stick thin body, and sex is probably like clackety-clackety-clack.

Oh my. This made me laugh out loud. I know lots of folks appreciate that there's also a very slim body type in the game (the little body-type diversity there is in-game), but for me, it's more the way f!Lavellan is animated, like she's using the Trev walk instead of one for her body shape/size. She always looks like a puppet on strings to me, whose stick limbs are about collapse.



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I feel a little bad about Cully Wully dating an elf.

It must be hard to even wrap his arms around that stick thin body, and sex is probably like clackety-clackety-clack.

 

Oh my. This made me laugh out loud. I know lots of folks appreciate that there's also a very slim body type in the game (the little body-type diversity there is in-game), but for me, it's more the way f!Lavellan is animated, like she's using the Trev walk instead of one for her body shape. She always looks like a puppet on strings to me, whose stick limbs are about collapse.

I have to agree, which is why I've been annoyed I can't keep my Dalish warrior in armor with her shield to hide that body animation when in Skyhold.
 I appreciate that they gave us a very slim body type, but I'm seriously getting annoyed that there's never a heavier body type (apparently the world will end if people have to play a female PC who has some muscular development or simply isn't at the thin end of the spectrum.) I feel like they slimmed all the body shapes since DAO, though it's the dwarven women that really get to me (big surprise :lol: )

 

However, some people do take negative remarks on the very slim body type personally, and we should probably be careful about that line. I always try to make clear that my objection has never been that they offer a body type at one extreme, it's that all the body types (excluding the female qunari) are thinner than average and it's impossible to play a muscular/athletic woman in the game. I literally confuse my dwarves for human women sometimes if they aren't standing next to someone; that was never a problem in DAO. I'd like just once to have the option to play a woman warrior who looks like a female weightlifter or wrestler and who can be taller than a male LI in their romance scenes.


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Qunari women can date Blackwall buuut they're scaled down. :(
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I have to agree, which is why I've been annoyed I can't keep my Dalish warrior in armor with her shield to hide that body animation when in Skyhold.
 I appreciate that they gave us a very slim body type, but I'm seriously getting annoyed that there's never a heavier body type (apparently the world will end if people have to play a female PC who has some muscular development or simply isn't at the thin end of the spectrum.) I feel like they slimmed all the body shapes since DAO, though it's the dwarven women that really get to me (big surprise :lol: )

 

However, some people do take negative remarks on the very slim body type personally, and we should probably be careful about that line. I always try to make clear that my objection has never been that they offer a body type at one extreme, it's that all the body types (excluding the female qunari) are thinner than average and it's impossible to play a muscular/athletic woman in the game. I literally confuse my dwarves for human women sometimes if they aren't standing next to someone; that was never a problem in DAO. I'd like just once to have the option to play a woman warrior who looks like a female weightlifter or wrestler and who can be taller than a male LI in their romance scenes.

Yes, well said.


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#131042
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Qunari women can date Blackwall buuut they're scaled down. :(

That's the one I had in mind. Pretty much blew my interest in playing a qunari woman out of the water when I saw they shrink her to make it work especially since I was lukewarm on the romance to begin with, unless I decide to romance Sera with one (seems that's the one race/background that she doesn't have major issues with.)



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I have to agree, which is why I've been annoyed I can't keep my Dalish warrior in armor with her shield to hide that body animation when in Skyhold.
 I appreciate that they gave us a very slim body type, but I'm seriously getting annoyed that there's never a heavier body type (apparently the world will end if people have to play a female PC who has some muscular development or simply isn't at the thin end of the spectrum.) I feel like they slimmed all the body shapes since DAO, though it's the dwarven women that really get to me (big surprise :lol: )

 

I love what they did with female dwarves in this game! They look less like orangutans and more like Aimo's "smexy, curvaceous lil' minx" that she draws for her Lady Aeducan. Love it!

 

Qunari women can date Blackwall buuut they're scaled down. :(

 

She's not scaled down for every scene:

 

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The worst offending scene is the "batman" balcony one. They stick her poor legs through the floor to make her shorter for when they kiss. I caught that one one flycam - just didn't record it. 

 

*edit* Cullen for ToP:

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#131044
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I love what they did with female dwarves in this game! They look less like orangutans and more like Aimo's "smexy, curvaceous lil' minx" that she draws for her Lady Aeducan. Love it!

 

 

She's not scaled down for every scene:

 

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The worst offending scene is the "batman" balcony one. They stick her poor legs through the floor to make her shorter for when they kiss. I caught that one one flycam - just didn't record it. 

Sorry, but I hate what they did with the female dwarves, and I think that goes for a lot of fans of the dwarves from DAO (and who are playing female dwarves in DAI.) Fixing the arms, sure, those were poorly proportioned. But they have very little upper body development left, for one issue. I want to play someone who's recognizably of the same race as the men rather than thinned out to be a short human. I don't even think they got the curvaceous thing down very well, Aimo's are much better to my eyes (see below, her male and female dwarves have far more similar body types than the DAI dwarves.) It feels to me as if they tried to please people who don't play dwarves rather than those who do.

 

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http://aimo.devianta...Pride-333524114

 

And true, they actually managed the dance scene between a qunari and Blackwall, but eh, while I think that scene is cute, I care a lot more about the others (she's shorter than Blackwall during that balcony scene and in the hayloft.) If they were going to race gate the dwarves and qunari, they could at least have put in the time to make the ones they gave them actually work. It's like the afternath of the fade conversation with Solas; a dwarf can't even question the fact he or she was having a conversation IN A FADE DREAM when their entire justification for not allowing dwarven mages is...they don't dream in the Fade.


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I'll probably get yelled at for this but I kinda wish they'd just cut PC qunari/dwarf in favor of city elf/human merc. You have stuff like the dwarf dreaming without comment and weird cutscene issues. But also, when I play as a dwarf I feel like I'm making a lot of decisions with no context in conflicts that have nothing to do with me except I want to keep breathing.

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I'll probably get yelled at for this but I kinda wish they'd just cut PC qunari/dwarf in favor of city elf/human merc. You have stuff like the dwarf dreaming without comment and weird cutscene issues. But also, when I play as a dwarf I feel like I'm making a lot of decisions with no context in conflicts that have nothing to do with me except I want to keep breathing.

I agree that they managed to integrate the dwarves into DAO better than into DAI. But Corypheus is as much an issue for dwarves as everyone else so I don't see most of the decisions as uninteresting to them (and maybe more so if you roleplay as a higher level Carta type who sees a lot of it as an opportunity to build connections he or she can use later.) I understand with the Solas storyline why they chose Dalish for the elves, but d**n, imagine a city elf as inquisitor during Wicked Eyes/Wicked Hearts! It would have been a lot more significant to him or her (especially if Orlesian) than to anyone, including a Trevelyan who presumably only has a minor personal interest in who's ruling Orlais.

 

Despite the flaws, though, I'm glad the dwarves are in there, it gives me hope that eventually they'll cross the good storylines again with a race with a less conventional appearance and a clearly defined cultural background, like the two dwarf origins in DAO. However, I don't see why they didn't just unracegate Cullen's romance since the mismatched graphics can't be that much more immersion breaking than the ones they gave us.


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#131047
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I'm sorry for the quality... I'm learning... And I don't know how to transfer pencil & charcoal drawing to digital...

 

Haunted.

 

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Thanks to Mel & Font for the references ;)


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#131048
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I've never played as a dwarf any further than the origin part of Origins... I'm 5'2" and on the curvy & broad-shouldered side, so I suppose they could be considered as most representative of my body type, but I enjoy being completely different in characters. Half the fun of playing a qunari was being able to look down at people for a change!

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I've never played as a dwarf any further than the origin part of Origins... I'm 5'2" and on the curvy & broad-shouldered side, so I suppose they could be considered as most representative of my body type, but I enjoy being completely different in characters. Half the fun of playing a qunari was being able to look down at people for a change!

Honestly, I'm nowhere near a dwarf body type; when I was young, I could probably have modeled for the human female body shape, honestly. What attracted me to the female dwarves is their muscular build and attitude. A qunari female might have been fun if they hadn't taken most of the fun out of it by forcing her into a stereotype in the romance scenes.

 

My issues are that we're not really given a choice except slender and very slender and the choices are restricting, not expanding (even the qunari female looks tiny next to Iron Bull or Sten.) When they gutted the appearance of female dwarves, they wiped out the perception that these were muscular, athletic women with an attitude. Now they're just short humans who sometimes have an attitude. If you have a lot of imagination. Then throw in body shaming in reference to the DAO female dwarves, the most polite of which is "orangutan," sigh...



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Sorry, but I hate what they did with the female dwarves, and I think that goes for a lot of fans of the dwarves from DAO (and who are playing female dwarves in DAI.) Fixing the arms, sure, those were poorly proportioned. But they have very little upper body development left, for one issue. I want to play someone who's recognizably of the same race as the men rather than thinned out to be a short human. I don't even think they got the curvaceous thing down very well, Aimo's are much better to my eyes (see below, her male and female dwarves have far more similar body types than the DAI dwarves.) It feels to me as if they tried to please people who don't play dwarves rather than those who do.

 

5_pride_by_aimo_d5ikkuq.jpg

http://aimo.devianta...Pride-333524114

 

And true, they actually managed the dance scene between a qunari and Blackwall, but eh, while I think that scene is cute, I care a lot more about the others (she's shorter than Blackwall during that balcony scene and in the hayloft.) If they were going to race gate the dwarves and qunari, they could at least have put in the time to make the ones they gave them actually work. It's like the afternath of the fade conversation with Solas; a dwarf can't even question the fact he or she was having a conversation IN A FADE DREAM when their entire justification for not allowing dwarven mages is...they don't dream in the Fade.

Yeah, dwarves look like mini humans in DAI. I preferred the DAO look simply because they had distinct racial features. I didn't even mind the orangoutang arms. Males in DAI still look like they have those but not the females.