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I was absolutely indignant for a hot minute but then I remembered that my headcanon is not actually canon and felt a bit silly about it. Just a little bit.
 
I headcanon it now as Cullen on one hand not wanting to advertise too loudly the fact that he was once in a relationship with the Champion of Kirkwall, as brief as it lasted, since there is already so much rampant gossip about his private affairs running the battlements as it is;


LOL So much this.
 
Sorry, but have to trot this one out again in this context, because I love how it turned out. :P I can't help but imagine that DA:I Hawke's relationship with Cullen was so on the DL that perhaps even her friends in Kirkwall didn't really know the details. That it was sort of the slow burn, summer vacation kind of thing that you look back on wistfully, wondering what could have been and where that person might be now. Sooooo of course, that means Summer Nights parody from Grease. :D (note this was from before the game came out, so we didn't know anything about Hawke's whereabouts yet)
 
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Imagine Cullen talking to the Inquisition members about his time in Kirkwall, and Marian Hawke, wherever she is, finally fessing up to her companions about Cullen.

Kirkwall Knights

Cullen: Kirkwall loving, happened so fast
Marian Hawke: Kirkwall loving, never would last
C: I met a girl crazy can be
H: Met a boy suspicious of me

Chorus (Cullen & Hawke)
Kirkwall days running away
From, oh, oh, those Kirkwall knights

Inquisition:
Well-a well-a well-a, huh
Tell me more, tell me more
Cassandra: Did she get very far?

Hawke’s companions:
Tell me more, tell me more
Aveline: Did he put you behind bars?

C: She came upon me, questioned my work
H: I tried to help him, he was a jerk
C: I saved her life, she nearly died
H: I saved his life, with magic I hide

Chorus
Kirkwall son, something’s begun
But, oh, oh, those Kirkwall knights

Inquisition:
Well-a well-a well-a huh
Tell me more, tell me more
Sera: Was it love at first sight? 

Hawke’s companions:
Tell me more, tell me more
Merrill: Did he hit you with a smite?

C: Took her patrolling down to the docks
H: We went strolling, loved our long walks
C: Quiet patrol let me enjoy her smile
H: Ignored the world for a little while

Chorus
Kirkwall fling, don’t mean a thing
But, oh, oh, those Kirkwall knights

Inquisition:
Tell me more, tell me more
Iron Bull: So then you didn’t shag?

Hawke’s companions:
Tell me more, tell me more
Isabela: ‘Cause he sounds like a drag

H: He got friendly, holding my hand 
C: She got friendly, more than I’d planned
H: What to do, if it came to a fight?
C: Mage or not, my heart she did smite

Chorus
Kirkwall heat, boy and girl meet
But, oh, oh, the Kirkwall knights

Inquisition:
Tell me more, tell me more
Dorian: A mage was your lady friend?

Hawke’s companions:
Tell me more, tell me more
Anders: Was he your friend in the end?

H: Meredith did smolder, that’s where it ends
C: So I told her we’d still be friends
H: He let me go, still don’t know how
C: Wonder what she’s doing now

Chorus
Kirkwall dreams ripped at the seams
But, oh, those Kirkwall knights
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#131202
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squeeee more regency!Cullen.


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Maker bless David Gaider and this awesome fandom. :wub:
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#131203
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These are lovely!

Just in case... you might want to include links instead of the actual imgs. In or out of spoiler tags doesn't matter to the mods as far as NSFW content. I'd hate for you to get warned. :/

 

Thanks, I didn't know that, should I go ahead and try to change them now?


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#131204
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Thanks, I didn't know that, should I go ahead and try to change them now?

Mmm, I would. <3

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Mmm, I would. <3

OK fixed and thank you again for pointing this out to me :D


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I know you couldn't have known this R2, but I had literally just got Grease out of my head. :(
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I know you couldn't have known this R2, but I had literally just got Grease out of my head. :(

LOL Sorry.  =]


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Guys, I'm worried.

Is it possible to accidentally skip a cutscene in the romance arc?

I'd chosen to delay the part where he gives you a lucky coin because since there aren't that many romance moments I decided there should be a bigger time gap between them.

That way it wouldn't be over too soon.

But after returning from Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, entering Cullen's quarters immediately triggered the cutscene where he gets nightmares from lyrium abstinence.

After it was done, he only had normal dialogue options.

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Guys, I'm worried.

Is it possible to accidentally skip a cutscene in the romance arc?

I'd chosen to delay the part where he gives you a lucky coin because since there aren't that many romance moments I decided there should be a bigger time gap between them.

That way it wouldn't be over too soon.

But after returning from Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, entering Cullen's quarters immediately triggered the cutscene where he gets nightmares from lyrium abstinence.

After it was done, he only had normal dialogue options.

Have you left Skyhaven and returned? Sometimes that triggers other things. I keep delaying WE/WH on that PT.



#131210
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I know we discussed recently whether you get banter or gossip from companions about romances. I still haven't had anything from Cullen except the "I wouldn't want any misunderstandings" if you flirt with him while in a romance. But my male qunari just had a conversation with Blackwall about Cassandra. :P


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Speaking of old memes.  Got into a brief discussion regarding Cullen while I was at work, and someone thought I was talking about Twilight.  I so wanted to throw this meme in her face, sigh.

 

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#131212
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Guys, I'm worried.

Is it possible to accidentally skip a cutscene in the romance arc?

I'd chosen to delay the part where he gives you a lucky coin because since there aren't that many romance moments I decided there should be a bigger time gap between them.

That way it wouldn't be over too soon.

But after returning from Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, entering Cullen's quarters immediately triggered the cutscene where he gets nightmares from lyrium abstinence.

After it was done, he only had normal dialogue options.

Hmmm, I'm not sure which one you mean with the nightmares. You mean the one where he shags you first? And by normal dialogue options, do you mean you're not in a romance any longer and can't ask for a woo break?

Like Tishina said, best way to trigger the next beat in any story line is to leave skyhold and come back again. But I didn't think you could shag him before the gift quest. Huh.

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The one where he shags you first, and by normal I mean he doesn't invite you to visit the lake.

But even if I still can get that one, I won't be happy. This is supposed to be the culmination of their relationship.

It shouldn't already be the next moment after the first kiss scene.

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The one where he shags you first, and by normal I mean he doesn't invite you to visit the lake.

But even if I still can get that one, I won't be happy. This is supposed to be the culmination of their relationship.

It shouldn't already be the next moment after the first kiss scene.

Have you done both Abyss and WE/WH? Just curious...



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Now that you mention it, yes, I have.
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Just saw these for the first time. I'm guessing this is a new hair mod? Freaking love it. There's no way his hair should stay all nicely combed after getting ravished by the Inquisitor. Gonna grab those like freakin horse reins lol

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#131217
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Now that you mention it, yes, I have.

I wonder if that has something to do with the timing on whether you can have the lake date. Odd that no one's run into that glitch before; I'd had the impression that timing didn't matter on it. Do you have a save from just before starting WE/WH that you can use to make sure the date option was there when you started? I admit, my curiosity is partly to make sure I avoid that if it's the case - I'd planned to do WE/WH for the dance, then possibly immediately do the Abyss and then the lake date as soon as I got back, finish cleaning up most of the areas, then trigger the desk scene just before Arbor Wilds because there's a final scene after that.



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I'd planned to do WE/WH for the dance, then possibly immediately do the Abyss and then the lake date as soon as I got back, finish cleaning up most of the areas, then trigger the desk scene just before Arbor Wilds because there's a final scene after that.

 

This is not possible. Once you finish Abyss/Wicked, the sex scene will immediately trigger the first time you enter Cullen's office, regardless of whether you've completed the other romance stages (the lake, Perseverance) or not. I don't know if you can still trigger the lake scene afterwards, but the desk scene is scripted to happen once you've completed those two stages of the main quest, you can't avoid triggering it.

 

What you can do is complete every romance stage available prior to Abyss/Wicked, then not enter his office anymore (as the scene will trigger at the door) until you wanna see the desk scene right before Arbor Wilds, but that could be a long time not speaking to Cullen at all between quests, depending on how space they are in your game.


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I wonder if that has something to do with the timing on whether you can have the lake date. Odd that no one's run into that glitch before; I'd had the impression that timing didn't matter on it. Do you have a save from just before starting WE/WH that you can use to make sure the date option was there when you started? I admit, my curiosity is partly to make sure I avoid that if it's the case - I'd planned to do WE/WH for the dance, then possibly immediately do the Abyss and then the lake date as soon as I got back, finish cleaning up most of the areas, then trigger the desk scene just before Arbor Wilds because there's a final scene after that.


Oh, it was there. I did it once or twice without saving.

I'm kind of hoping this will work like Varric's cutscenes.

There's this moment where he talks about how great the Herald is and formally joining the Inquisition. At the time, I decided to delay this talk.

Then later, approaching Varric wouldn't trigger this cutscene anymore, just normal dialogue. But recently it became available again.
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This is not possible. Once you finish Abyss/Wicked, the sex scene will immediately trigger the first time you enter Cullen's office, regardless of whether you've completed the other romance stages (the lake, Perseverance) or not. I don't know if you can still trigger the lake scene afterwards, but the desk scene is scripted to happen once you've completed those two stages of the main quest, you can't avoid triggering it.

 

What you can do is complete every romance stage available prior to Abyss/Wicked, then not enter his office anymore (as the scene will trigger at the door) until you wanna see the desk scene right before Arbor Wilds, but that could be a long time not speaking to Cullen at all between quests, depending on how space they are in your game.

Well, I'm glad to know that now before I messed up the timing. Hmm, maybe I'll do a lot more of the cleaning up regions between WE/WH and Abyss after all and trigger the date right before Abyss instead. I wouldn't necessarily object to having the lake date after the desk scene if it's possible, it could make that scene sweeter if you take the right view that the relationship started more physical but is moving to something deeper and longer lasting. But I want to keep things spaced out (no, I didn't find the long-a***d dryspell--75 hours so far--- in Solas's romance without even a kiss and only an occasional "lethalan" aggravating at all :P )


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If WH/WE wasn't such a sodding long quest, I might be willing to go back a couple hours in my gameplay just to fix Cullen's romance.

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(...) if you take the right view that the relationship started more physical but is moving to something deeper and longer lasting.

 

Yeah, I know what you mean here. My final take on the romance was that it developed from a more physical to emotional form too, so I had to minutiously time each scene to flow right with the other elements I wanted to include in it (the first half of Blackwall's and Sera's romances, Perseverance before the first kiss, etc). In the end most of my world exploration is either still in Haven (the Ferelden side) or between Abyss and Wicked (the Orlais side), and the lake scene comes right before Wicked, which comes right before the Arbor Wilds. It gave that scene a very sweet tone to me, like that was when Quizzie realized she really had serious business feelings for this dweeb, not just a misplaced infatuation based on their long-running UST, and made the commitment scene taking place after the dance feel right, like the dance was the moment they both decided they don't wanna let go.

 

Let us know the resut if you're going to test whether the lake scene is possible after the sex scene. Scientific research is always relevant! :P


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Yeah, I know what you mean here. My final take on the romance was that it developed from a more physical to emotional form too, so I had to minutiously time each scene to flow right with the other elements I wanted to include in it (the first half of Blackwall's and Sera's romances, Perseverance before the first kiss, etc). In the end most of my world exploration is either still in Haven (the Ferelden side) or between Abyss and Wicked (the Orlais side), and the lake scene comes right before Wicked, which comes right before the Arbor Wilds. It gave that scene a very sweet tone to me, like that was when Quizzie realized she really had serious business feelings for this dweeb, not just a misplaced infatuation based on their long-running UST, and made the commitment scene taking place after the dance feel right, like the dance was the moment they both decided they don't wanna let go.

 

Let us know the resut if you're going to test whether the lake scene is possible after the sex scene. Scientific research is always relevant! :P

I also think moving from mostly physical to something more makes particular sense for a Dalish who expected to go back to her clan when this was all over and wouldn't have been looking to actually get attached to a human, however attractive and sweet, until it hit her over the head and forced her to decide. Which is more or less how I'm RPing Volya.

 

I'd volunteer to be the guinea pig, but I'm only going through WE/WH once, and I'm not willing to risk missing the lake date. ;)


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I'm currently watching Labyrinth for the first time. David Bowie makes one strangely attractive goblin king :blush: wouldn't mind seeing someone like his character in a future DA game.
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(no, I didn't find the long-a***d dryspell--75 hours so far--- in Solas's romance without even a kiss and only an occasional "lethalan" aggravating at all :P )

No kidding.
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(sorry, I couldn't resist :P)


 

I'm currently watching Labyrinth for the first time. David Bowie makes one strangely attractive goblin king :blush: wouldn't mind seeing someone like his character in a future DA game.

Ooooooh yes. "I ask for so little. Just fear me. Love me. Do as I say, and I will be your slave." :wub:
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