That should be illegal...Did you guys saw this? Strider!Cullen
http://lilyrutherfor...e-things-in-one
The Official Cullen Discussion Thread v.3.0
#131276
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 02:43
#131277
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 03:38
Mmm, that's what my morning needed... ![]()
#131278
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 03:46
Yeah, the only confirmations of seeing the scene that I've heard of had to trigger it explicitly with
blood magicCheatEngine. Other than that, just rumors of folks triggering it naturally, so hard to say.
Please, BW, fiiiixxx iiiittt!
I didn't use CheatEngine, but I can confirm that you can get it to trigger using a save game editor. That's how I made it work.
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#131279
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 03:51
I suppose I'll hold off playing until B.E. is released ... so I can hold off a bit longer to get my Cullen fix.
This is what I'm doing, too
I'm *so ready* to do a Cullen romance playthrough, but I'm going to wait until BE at least. I might even wait for the next DLC announcement to see if its worth waiting for another release.
#131280
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 03:54
Ahhh yeah possibly, I know I have a couple of states where I stabbed her, I couldn't tell you if it was those play throughs that had the bug but more than likely is if its a known issue. I'll have to remove that tile then cause that bug seriously annoys me.
I had the same bug in my stabbed-Morrigan world state, specifically when I did Adamant before Wicked Eyes. When I did Wicked Eyes first, I didn't get the bug. Don't know if that actually matters or not, but you never know.
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#131281
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 03:56
Hey guys, just wanted to drop off this post that just came across my tumblr dash: http://villainfetish...-with-solas-are . Relevance to the Cullen thread: I'd seen it said here at some point that the "they found joy and embraced it" "how could they not?" Cole / Solas travel banter was the one travel banter that referred to the Cullen romance, but evidently there aren't any, because apparently that's a Weekes-confirmed City of Angels reference. Which is fine by me (not that there aren't any, but that that one doesn't refer to the Cullen romance); would have been pretty generic if that'd been what it was.
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#131282
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 06:09
Also relevant to our interests: http://blog.bioware....ry-paper-steel/
(does a little tiny bit to clear up our idea of Kirkwall Templars / Red Templars post-Meredith and post-Cullen)
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#131283
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 07:58
Hey guys, just wanted to drop off this post that just came across my tumblr dash: http://villainfetish...-with-solas-are . Relevance to the Cullen thread: I'd seen it said here at some point that the "they found joy and embraced it" "how could they not?" Cole / Solas travel banter was the one travel banter that referred to the Cullen romance, but evidently there aren't any, because apparently that's a Weekes-confirmed City of Angels reference. Which is fine by me (not that there aren't any, but that that one doesn't refer to the Cullen romance); would have been pretty generic if that'd been what it was.
Oh, I never thought that was about the Cullen romance. I was like "City of Angels?" when I heard that banter...I'm pleased with myself that I was right! ![]()
Oh, OT but has anybody had problems with the Keep? I tried exporting a new world state last night and the export button was greyed out.
#131284
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 09:09
For a moment there I thought "Damn, who makes such a long joint and how stoned can you get from that?"
But then I read your comments.
So, this isn't Cullen in a hoodie and smoking a joint.
#131285
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 09:38
This makes me wish for an LI with a Strider-like personality. ![]()
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#131286
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 10:00
Also relevant to our interests: http://blog.bioware....ry-paper-steel/
(does a little tiny bit to clear up our idea of Kirkwall Templars / Red Templars post-Meredith and post-Cullen)
This is fantastic, it clears up a lot and gives a well needed look into the inner workings and reasonings of the Red Templars. Can't wait for Calpernia's next, a pity they don't come with the book.
The one thing is that this makes the timeline for Viscount Hawke definitely broken. If the red lyrium only came up after Cullen left Kirkwall with Cassandra, than Red Templars couldn't be harrassing Hawke out of the city before that. Unless either Hawke flat out lied about her reasons to leave Kirkwall, or she was hiding somewhere in Kirkwall the whole time Cassandra was there.
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#131287
Posté 30 avril 2015 - 10:04
What's funny is that we used to think Swords & Shields was about Cullen and Aveline, but apparently the knight-captain in the story is female. So... since Aveline's on the cover and presumably the guardsman since she's wearing her guard armor... it makes me wonder now what it's really about.
wait...where is the knight captain female? i, too, was totally getting that varric was riffing off of aveline (guard) and cullen (templar) since there's that dialog about it in legacy DLC and also the mention of the 'she was innocent' quest.
so...this is a f/f fic? huh. ... okay. that didn't quite fit with what i assumed about cass's enjoyment of that novel, but okay.
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#131288
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 01:01
wait...where is the knight captain female? i, too, was totally getting that varric was riffing off of aveline (guard) and cullen (templar) since there's that dialog about it in legacy DLC and also the mention of the 'she was innocent' quest.
so...this is a f/f fic? huh. ... okay. that didn't quite fit with what i assumed about cass's enjoyment of that novel, but okay.
Yeah, agree, that was totally the implication to me from the Legacy banter, that it was aveline and cullen. I even wrote a story once about how Meredith thought it about them, too. LOL
But if you watch Varric give the new chapter to Cass here:
https://youtu.be/NoPnOHI6ykE?t=1m39s
Varric says, "You're probably wondering what happens to the Knight-Captain after the last chapter."
Cass says, "Nothing should happen to her. She was falsely accused!"
But the girl on the book cover is definitely in guard armor, soo... yeah, I also think it's a f/f romance. With Aveline, apparently. ![]()
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#131289
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 01:38
Yeeah, I agree, it still doesn't quite make sense. Unless this is only the story for a pro-mage Hawke who split town. The story specifically calls Cullen Knight-Captain, so that may be so. At least it explains why Cullen doesn't know anything about the red lyrium from his time in Kirkwall. Just still doesn't explain why Viscount Hawke does.This is fantastic, it clears up a lot and gives a well needed look into the inner workings and reasonings of the Red Templars. Can't wait for Calpernia's next, a pity they don't come with the book.
The one thing is that this makes the timeline for Viscount Hawke definitely broken. If the red lyrium only came up after Cullen left Kirkwall with Cassandra, than Red Templars couldn't be harrassing Hawke out of the city before that. Unless either Hawke flat out lied about her reasons to leave Kirkwall, or she was hiding somewhere in Kirkwall the whole time Cassandra was there.
The thing that honestly bothers me more? If that's really what Kirkwall was like for two whole years, with templars killing mages left and right and no longer knowing right from wrong, is Cullen the kind of person to just split and leave the templars lost and fearful and totally on their own?
The Kirkwall chapter had been under Meredith’s thumbscrews for so long that they barely knew right from wrong. For all Meredith’s railing against blood magic controlling people, fear had twisted the templars’ minds just as well.
That fear only grew after the young Knight-Captain, Cullen, left the city to follow some Seeker on Chantry business. With no new orders, the Kirkwall templars floundered. There was no relief anywhere. Every day more reports of the mage rebellion came in and how templars were fighting it.
I just don't see Cullen abandoning the templars like that, leaving them "with no new orders," with no one else to lead them. The whole picture just still doesn't hang together for me. He spends two whole years trying to put Kirkwall back together and then splits town for a new job without a transition plan? That's a little cavalier, particularly for someone who was (is?) so duty driven.
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#131290
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 02:13
Yeeah, I agree, it still doesn't quite make sense. Unless this is only the story for a pro-mage Hawke who split town. The story specifically calls Cullen Knight-Captain, so that may be so. At least it explains why Cullen doesn't know anything about the red lyrium from his time in Kirkwall. Just still doesn't explain why Viscount Hawke does.
The thing that honestly bothers me more? If that's really what Kirkwall was like for two whole years, with templars killing mages left and right and no longer knowing right from wrong, is Cullen the kind of person to just split and leave the templars lost and fearful and totally on their own?
No, absolutely not. I really don't see Cullen just up and leaving if Kirkwall was under such a state. And this also conflicts with the statements we have about him and his templars working with Aveline and her guards to keep the peace... everyone's working to keep the peace and rebuild the city and one day Cullen just throws his hands up and leaves. Hm.
And the Knight-Captain mention is not the only thing that doesn't gel with a generic/neutral world state, there's also a part that heavily implies Samson was never taken back into the order, too (which is something I always do). That's the only thing that bothers me about this story - the camp parts are very good, but the Kirkwall parts only really make sense for a mage-siding Hawke's ending. For a Templar-siding Hawke, neither Hawke's nor Cullen's versions of the story match up with the timeline or the facts described there.
Unfortunate that they had to go with a slant for only one version of the story again and completely ignore the other possible ending, but sadly not unexpected. At least the parts with Maddox, Cory and Wystan were very interesting and character-building for Samson.
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#131291
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 02:16
<snips>
Varric says, "You're probably wondering what happens to the Knight-Captain after the last chapter."
Cass says, "Nothing should happen to her. She was falsely accused!"
But the girl on the book cover is definitely in guard armor, soo... yeah, I also think it's a f/f romance. With Aveline, apparently.
oooh, yeah. huh, i guess i changed that in my head. 'cause i totally read that as a reference to the quest (can't remember exact name) about aveline being accused of coddling her men, and cullen's on the case. so i totally read that as the guard-captain was accused. huh. i think i may continue to head-canon that. it just strikes me that varric is totally the kind of guy who would see some situation between two people and go 'i'll make **** up about this!' and then aveline and donnic and cullen are all like ...wtf? seriously? that's not how it happened!
as for the red-lyrium short story... i dunno. i mean, cool story, bro, but there is a TON of handwaving going on at the events between da2 & dai. (i nearly broke my brain trying to figure out what was going on with ostwick's circle before i just said 'eh, screw it. i'm going to make my best stab at making sense of this').
i always thought that cullen's codex letter sums his motivations up best: he can't *make* the rebel templars come back. he can't *make* the rebel mages stand down. he's got a handful of templars in the gallows protecting the last of the mages and it sounded like he tried to aid aveline, but there's not much he can do. i mean, if you're in the middle of a warzone and he takes his best people to go protect the divine, that's not abandoning post. there wasn't much of a post left.
my 2 cents, anyhow.
#131292
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 02:16
argh. double post. have a cullen:

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#131293
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 02:20
I think it would be different if he took the templars with him. I don't really see that in any of the stories, tho.as for the red-lyrium short story... i dunno. i mean, cool story, bro, but there is a TON of handwaving going on at the events between da2 & dai. (i nearly broke my brain trying to figure out what was going on with ostwick's circle before i just said 'eh, screw it. i'm going to make my best stab at making sense of this').
i always thought that cullen's codex letter sums his motivations up best: he can't *make* the rebel templars come back. he can't *make* the rebel mages stand down. he's got a handful of templars in the gallows protecting the last of the mages and it sounded like he tried to aid aveline, but there's not much he can do. i mean, if you're in the middle of a warzone and he takes his best people to go protect the divine, that's not abandoning post. there wasn't much of a post left.
my 2 cents, anyhow.
#131294
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 03:38
That should be illegal...
Oh My....
#131295
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 07:47
I think it would be different if he took the templars with him. I don't really see that in any of the stories, tho.
I was under the impression though that some templars had followed him initially when he joined Cass and more joined after the death of the divine
#131296
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 09:18
Yea i think he told something like that at the beggining of the game. Some templars followed him when he left kirkwall with cass.
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#131297
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 11:40
I was under the impression though that some templars had followed him initially when he joined Cass and more joined after the death of the divine
Yea i think he told something like that at the beggining of the game. Some templars followed him when he left kirkwall with cass.
Yeah, there definitely were templars in the Inquisition with him, so it's possible. But the rest were just left in Kirkwall on their own? Cullen seems pretty specific about not putting his own newly negative views of the templars onto anyone else, so I'd expect those that followed him probably volunteered. I'd expect him to be the sort of guy who would have a transition plan after he left Kirkwall... so Samson could just be bitter. But the templars being "without order" seems pretty factual to me. And would follow if it was a pro-mage Hawke world state and he wasn't the official leader anyway. Who was giving orders then?
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#131298
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 01:25
I don't know, but the way i see it it's like : Cullen said to the templars to follow him if they want to try to restore order, and maybe some templars didn't follow because they thought they were under the divine order? And many templars that followed Samson hates the Chantry/Divine.
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#131299
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 02:26
I think what we're seeing in the story is Samson's POV, which could be badly distorted by the red lyrium and control by Corypheus. He may be remembering things as much worse during the time before Cullen left than it was. I admit, I've paid less attention to the Hawke story than the serious fans of DA2 so I may have what's bothering you wrong, but could Hawke have been referring to a different group of Templars or could Cory have corrupted others before Samson that Samson wasn't aware of, and those were the ones who pushed a Hawke viscount into leaving?
I'm not that disturbed by Cullen leaving because 1) I suspect Samson's memories are distorted, 2) there may have been things going on that Cullen was unaware of (he's many things, but I think we can safely admit he can be a little oblivious to anything subtle), and 3) even if things weren't good in Kirkwall, he may have felt joining the Inquisition would do more to help them than staying.
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#131300
Posté 01 mai 2015 - 05:48
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