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[Hellion Rex]

Agree. Once they got to skyhold... meh. The balance of spppaaaaaaaaacccccee versus story was really skewed. 

 

But thing I'm most upset about: the Solas reveal was going to be a quest?!?!?!?! 

 

I was thinking more along these lines.

[MilaBanilla]

It's a shame about the clipping (hair clipping is something that really tweaks my gourd in any game). And does the hair have movement or does it stick in place?

 

I wonder how it looks at super-high rez... 

 

It doesn't move, unfortunately.

I'm still new to modding so I really have no idea how to add physics to the hair

[FFZero]

I think I'm sort of regretting doing a romance between Cullen and my Pro-Mage Inquisitor. Maybe I've been looking at too many Cullen hate tags in Tumblr but I'm starting to wonder if Cullen still doesn't see Mages as people. Anyone think a Pro-Mage Inquisitor and Cullen can last or would it end up like Sera and an Elf Inquisitor who break up because the Inquisitor won't abandon her Elven beliefs?

 

Honestly I think it's because you've been looking at the Cullen hate.

 

While Cullen certainly isn’t pro-mage he does sympathise with them. While he still believes that the circles have a purpose, as does the order, he doesn’t believe that the circles should be prisons anymore and he can even bring up alternatives such as mixed military service or healer clinics. While he can fall back into bad habits on viewing all mages as dangerous, but given what he’s been through thats hardly a surprise, he does realise that this view of every mage being an abomination waiting to happen is wrong. He’s still trying to unlearn the dangerous and damaging views that Meredith and the Order tried to cultivate after Uldreds rebellion and that isn’t an easy thing to do. The fact that he can and does fall in love with a mage inquisitor definitely shows that he does see mages as people. Whether it lasts however is up for debate, some would say no others yes. Personally I can’t see Cullen abandoning the inquisitor over differences of opinion like Sera does. The only thing I could see driving Cullen away is if a mage inquisitor were to start using something like blood magic.

 

[Cerulione]

OMG did you guys saw this???

 

THIS IS FREAKING AWESOME!! Blustersquall from tumblr sung a song from The World of Thedas 2 with How To Train Your Dragon 2 song. My 2 favourite things ever!

 

http://blustersquall...for-some-reason

[riverbanks]

It doesn't move, unfortunately.

I'm still new to modding so I really have no idea how to add physics to the hair

 

Oh, you're the one who made it! Thank you for making and sharing this, and specially thank you for porting it to human Quizzies too!

[R2s Muse]

It doesn't move, unfortunately.

I'm still new to modding so I really have no idea how to add physics to the hair

You rock. That is all. All new hair is good hair. So Maker watch over you.

[R2s Muse]

I was thinking more along these lines.

LOL  I think you meant... 

 

 

   

[R2s Muse]

I think I'm sort of regretting doing a romance between Cullen and my Pro-Mage Inquisitor. Maybe I've been looking at too many Cullen hate tags in Tumblr but I'm starting to wonder if Cullen still doesn't see Mages as people. Anyone think a Pro-Mage Inquisitor and Cullen can last or would it end up like Sera and an Elf Inquisitor who break up because the Inquisitor won't abandon her Elven beliefs?

Honestly I think it's because you've been looking at the Cullen hate.

 

While Cullen certainly isn’t pro-mage he does sympathise with them. While he still believes that the circles have a purpose, as does the order, he doesn’t believe that the circles should be prisons anymore and he can even bring up alternatives such as mixed military service or healer clinics. While he can fall back into bad habits on viewing all mages as dangerous, but given what he’s been through thats hardly a surprise, he does realise that this view of every mage being an abomination waiting to happen is wrong. He’s still trying to unlearn the dangerous and damaging views that Meredith and the Order tried to cultivate after Uldreds rebellion and that isn’t an easy thing to do. The fact that he can and does fall in love with a mage inquisitor definitely shows that he does see mages as people. Whether it lasts however is up for debate, some would say no others yes. Personally I can’t see Cullen abandoning the inquisitor over differences of opinion like Sera does. The only thing I could see driving Cullen away is if a mage inquisitor were to start using something like blood magic.

Agree with FFZero. I really don't see any evidence of this in DA:I. Instead, he talks about how his views have changed and discusses rather enlightened models for how mages can be treated more fairly.

 

Now, he does still think that there needs to be some sort of system to protect the mages and protect against abuses. So, if folks want to hate him because he doesn't believe in 100% mage freedom, then they can go for it. That could be a fundamental difference of opinion for Cullen and 100% Freedom-or-death-for-mages Inquisitor. But even then, he seems to be a pretty evolved dude when it comes to his relationship. He's not keen on a romanced Inquisitor becoming a templar, and yet he's mature enough to roll with her choice and will support her anyway. So, I could still see a Cullen x mage-freedom-fighter!IQ relationship also working out if you want to headcanon it so. 

 

...and the Cullen love-hate rollercoaster just keeps on rollin'. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. 

[Tishina]

Agree with FFZero. I really don't see any evidence of this in DA:I. Instead, he talks about how his views have changed and discusses rather enlightened models for how mages can be treated more fairly.

 

Now, he does still think that there needs to be some sort of system to protect the mages and protect against abuses. So, if folks want to hate him because he doesn't believe in 100% mage freedom, then they can go for it. That could be a fundamental difference of opinion for Cullen and 100% Freedom-or-death-for-mages Inquisitor. But even then, he seems to be a pretty evolved dude when it comes to his relationship. He's not keen on a romanced Inquisitor becoming a templar, and yet he's mature enough to roll with her choice and will support her anyway. So, I could still see a Cullen x mage-freedom-fighter!IQ relationship also working out if you want to headcanon it so. 

 

...and the Cullen love-hate rollercoaster just keeps on rollin'. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. 

I actually think it's a little odd that people think he doesn't understand what he's doing when he gets into a relationship with a mage since an ex-Templar would know more about mages than any other non-mage in Thedas. I think he'd understand the risks and the potential problems better than anyone from the beginning, and in the case of a Dalish mage, I don't think he has any illusions about her accepting being under the control of a Circle in any form. The one thing he is particularly notable for in DAI is not asking anyone to change herself for him, which several of the others do to some extent. I think it's most obvious when he accepts and supports a Templar-Inquisitor after he tries to make certain she understands the dangers, as R2 said.

 

I actually think it makes a lot of sense that the more moderate mature Cullen would be attracted to a mage since we know the young Cullen was sweet on a mage in the circle, whether or not she survived (we know the other Origins existed, but Duncan was only present at one to save him or her.)I could see a problem coming up only if the Inquisitor started making moral choices he couldn't swallow - blood magic (and even there he might accept a little bit of a grey area in the right circumstance) or mage freedom to the point of no controls on their behavior or mage domination. But it wouldn't be the magic itself, it would be the moral choices.

 

Maybe I should add what most people on here already know, that I don't have the attachment to his romance a lot of people do, although I think it's very well done in many ways. I hang out in here because of the people and conversation and because I think Cullen's development as a character over the course of the three games is probably the most intriguing and indepth they've taken on, with all the mistakes and flaws and still trying to be a better person. Of course, I also admit I don't get people hating on any character, at least not to the point of attacking someone else for liking them (even Rendon Howe, I can see how someone might feel sympathetic toward him---I just wouldn't agree )

[Tishina]

I was thinking more along these lines.

My daughter wandered in and saw that last night, had to explain the entire "Wolfhunt was supposed to be a thing" to her. I think she's with you. Me, I'm with R2:

 

LOL  I think you meant... 

 

 

   

(actually, she just wants answers. She says Solas can live as long as he didn't really do what it looked like in the ending.)

[Hellion Rex]

My daughter wandered in and saw that last night, had to explain the entire "Wolfhunt was supposed to be a thing" to her. I think she's with you. Me, I'm with R2:

 

(actually, she just wants answers. She says Solas can live as long as he didn't really do what it looked like in the ending.)

....I'm actually down for some good ol' fashioned BBQ these days.

[Tishina]

....I'm actually down for some good ol' fashioned BBQ these days.

You don't just nurse a grudge, you savor it and take it out from time to time to build it into a bonfire, don't you?   I think you and my daughter are long-lost twins...

[Hellion Rex]

You don't just nurse a grudge, you savor it and take it out from time to time to build it into a bonfire, don't you?   I think you and my daughter are long-lost twins...

 

He killed my favorite character on screen, and he's responsible for all those deaths at the Conclave. He. Will. Burn.

 

[Tishina]

He killed my favorite character on screen, and he's responsible for all those deaths at the Conclave. He. Will. Burn.

Good point on the second part, but I'm willing to hear out the circumstances involved from him first. There's too much we don't know yet, including just who "the people" he refers to are. From game dialogue, it isn't either the Dalish or the city elves because he explicitly denies both.

 

If I can get some work done this morning, I'm going to be tackling the Arbor Wilds and getting my heart stomped this afternoon finally, so I may be in a BBQ mood by tomorrow myself . Too bad they lock you in so you can't let Cullen comfort you when you get back (just to bring it back to Cullen )

[Lynas]

It seems that the elves you find in the Arbor Wilds are his "people"

[Hellion Rex]

It seems that the elves you find in the Arbor Wilds are his "people"

And even then, they seem to be nothing but scions of a world forever lost.

[R2s Muse]

He killed my favorite character on screen, and he's responsible for all those deaths at the Conclave. He. Will. Burn.

Good point on the second part, but I'm willing to hear out the circumstances involved from him first. There's too much we don't know yet, including just who "the people" he refers to are.

I think we don't know the extent of his involvement yet. All we know is that the weapon Corypheus used to kill those people was something he got from Solas. It was Cory who killed them. To call Solas directly responsible is still jumping to conclusions. If we're assigning indirect blame, one could say the Elven Pantheon are responsible because they caused Solas to want to reactivate his focus to save them. And the dominoes can keep falling.

[R2s Muse]

I actually think it's a little odd that people think he doesn't understand what he's doing when he gets into a relationship with a mage since an ex-Templar would know more about mages than any other non-mage in Thedas. I think he'd understand the risks and the potential problems better than anyone from the beginning, and in the case of a Dalish mage, I don't think he has any illusions about her accepting being under the control of a Circle in any form. The one thing he is particularly notable for in DAI is not asking anyone to change herself for him, which several of the others do to some extent. I think it's most obvious when he accepts and supports a Templar-Inquisitor after he tries to make certain she understands the dangers, as R2 said.
 
I actually think it makes a lot of sense that the more moderate mature Cullen would be attracted to a mage since we know the young Cullen was sweet on a mage in the circle, whether or not she survived (we know the other Origins existed, but Duncan was only present at one to save him or her.)I could see a problem coming up only if the Inquisitor started making moral choices he couldn't swallow - blood magic (and even there he might accept a little bit of a grey area in the right circumstance) or mage freedom to the point of no controls on their behavior or mage domination. But it wouldn't be the magic itself, it would be the moral choices.
 
Maybe I should add what most people on here already know, that I don't have the attachment to his romance a lot of people do, although I think it's very well done in many ways. I hang out in here because of the people and conversation and because I think Cullen's development as a character over the course of the three games is probably the most intriguing and indepth they've taken on, with all the mistakes and flaws and still trying to be a better person. Of course, I also admit I don't get people hating on any character, at least not to the point of attacking someone else for liking them (even Rendon Howe, I can see how someone might feel sympathetic toward him---I just wouldn't agree )

I don't know that I agree that he would be more likely to romance a mage given his background. I think it's just as likely as any other class depending on who the individual is... and in the actual case of DAI, whoever the individual is, he's keen on her. But I agree that he'd know exactly what he was getting himself into. I've always maintained that I could see him falling for a mage even after everything he has been through... which is why mage wasn't my first choice for romancing him, since that experiment just isn't all that interesting to me. Figures they'd give him tons of extra dialogue for it, tho. snort.

[Hellion Rex]

   I think we don't know the extent of his involvement yet. All we know is that the weapon Corypheus used to kill those people was something he got from Solas. It was Cory who killed them. To call Solas directly responsible is still jumping to conclusions. If we're assigning indirect blame, one could say the Elven Pantheon are responsible because they caused Solas to want to reactive his focus to save them. And the dominoes can keep falling.

Ok. But let's draw that line of thought out though. He obviously knew what Cory was capable of, given that he willingly gave the Orb to him so it could be unlocked. The only thing he didn't account for was that Cory would survive the explosion. So, in my opinion, he is directly responsible.

[Tishina]

Ok. But let's draw that line of thought out though. He obviously knew what Cory was capable of, given that he willingly gave the Orb to him so it could be unlocked. The only thing he didn't account for was that Cory would survive the explosion. So, in my opinion, he is directly responsible.

Except the explosion itself appears to have been the result of the Inquisitor and the Divine disrupting the ritual. I'm not sure Solas knew what Cory planned exactly, but he obviously didn't think Cory could control the power once it was unlocked. That's why I'm inclined to at least give Solas a chance to explain himself.

 

I don't know that I agree that he would be more likely to romance a mage given his background. I think it's just as likely as any other class depending on who the individual is... and in the actual case of DAI, whoever the individual is, he's keen on her. But I agree that he'd know exactly what he was getting himself into. I've always maintained that I could see him falling for a mage even after everything he has been through... which is why mage wasn't my first choice for romancing him, since that experiment just isn't all that interesting to me. Figures they'd give him tons of extra dialogue for it, tho. snort.

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound as if I thought it was more likely (I didn't think I said that, but maybe it was poorly worded.) I was more focused on the fact that people often are influenced by a first love/major infatuation, and once he started trying to work his way back to a more moderate view on mages, I think that first infatuation would help him care for a mage despite the things he'd been through. (Am I making any sense, ?)

 

Edit: BTW, there really isn't that much mage dialogue, or at least that isn't just a repetition of "do you trust me?" My Dalish mage was far more concerned about the human tendency to treat an elf as a fling or an exotic pet rather than a person (and his reassurance otherwise is about the only Dalish specific line for the romance, sigh.)

[Potato Cat]

He killed my favorite character on screen, and he's responsible for all those deaths at the Conclave. He. Will. Burn.

I'm willing to bet my pretty cunning Jayne hat that that totally gets handwaived/not mentioned at all come Wolf Hunt.

[Hellion Rex]

I'm willing to bet my pretty cunning Jayne hat that that totally gets handwaived/not mentioned at all come Wolf Hunt.

I would be rather....annoyed if that does not get mentioned at all.

[Potato Cat]

I would be rather....annoyed if that does not get mentioned at all.

Same. Either way, Elidri's totally gonna try to murderknife him and I can't wait.

That said, I kinda want her to fail and end up murderknifed herself. If he's powerful enough to potentially permadeath my favourite Witch of the Wilds, I will not be happy if he's as easy to kill as Corypheus.

[Hellion Rex]

Same. Either way, Elidri's totally gonna try to murderknife him and I can't wait.

That said, I kinda want her to fail and end up murderknifed herself. If he's powerful enough to potentially permadeath my favourite Witch of the Wilds, I will not be happy if he's as easy to kill as Corypheus.

He's powerful, I'll grant, but I don't think Mythal put up much of a fight. If Flemeth ever got serious, I think she'd roast him, cause he had been weakened without his orb.

[SgtSteel91]

Thanks for everyone for replying. I think my reluctance came about from Cullen in Inquisition getting angry at the Inquisitor for allying with the Mages, saying "there will be abominations among them" like having no faith in the Mage's self control, and later when he says "Meredith's methods were harsh, but they kept people safe" when, to me, they didn't keep Mages safe. And then in Jaws in Hakkon when

Spoiler

you can recruit an Avvar Mage who bonded with a spirit and a War Table mission to have them talk to scholars about it has his option: "This is madness. If you must, have this Avvar Abomination meet with our own scholars. In a small room. Far from anything. With a templar present.” Like, he thinks this person is a monster and has no respect for their customs. Or maybe I'm expecting too much for him to put faith in the Avvar Mage after he saw how much damage a Mage bonding with a Spirit can cause because of the Fereldan and Kirkwall Circle?