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[Hellion Rex]

I'm writing a doc regarding some....wolfish stuff. Anybody think it's too cliche to have Solas carrying a staff that has a wolf head on it?

[Tishina]

I'm writing a doc regarding some....wolfish stuff. Anybody think it's too cliche to have Solas carrying a staff that has a wolf head on it?

No, I can absolutely see him doing that and if anyone notices, saying he does it to honk off the Dalish because of their superstitious fears or something. It would be entirely in character.

[panichord]

Yes! A lot of the Cullen flirts are too mild and uncertain for me. I generally play women who are very confident (at least on the surface) and often rather direct. At the very least, more innuendo which could be RPed more innocently for those who prefer that.

 

It's worth working the dialogue wheel because there's nothing particularly subtle about Solas's response to a Dalish mage flirting after he comments on her indomitable will. I thought I was hearing things the first time I heard it (before I knew the rest of his romance/storyline.)

Exactly! We should get variety in the flirting tone as we do with other choices. For some Quizzy's the flirt style completely contradicts their personality.

 

Ah that's freaking fantastic. Work that wheel, I shall!

 

I'm writing a doc regarding some....wolfish stuff. Anybody think it's too cliche to have Solas carrying a staff that has a wolf head on it?

Nah, I'd find that rather fitting.

[Tishina]

Exactly! We should get variety in the flirting tone as we do with other choices. For some Quizzy's the flirt style completely contradicts their personality.

 

Ah that's freaking fantastic. Work that wheel, I shall!

 

Nah, I'd find that rather fitting.

I look forward to hearing your reaction,

[MelissaGT]

 

I have started my mage but between GTA V and now The Witcher I haven't gotten much done on her.  But my goal is to make very different choices on her (while romancing Cullen).  She may even go the Templar route.

 

DOOOO IIIIIIT! 

 

That totally ended up being my canon playthrough. 

[Char]

Yes! A lot of the Cullen flirts are too mild and uncertain for me. I generally play women who are very confident (at least on the surface) and often rather direct. At the very least, more innuendo which could be RPed more innocently for those who prefer that.
 
It's worth working the dialogue wheel because there's nothing particularly subtle about Solas's response to a Dalish mage flirting after he comments on her indomitable will. I thought I was hearing things the first time I heard it (before I knew the rest of his romance/storyline.)

I like my ladies to be flirtatious and confident and in control. It felt like I was playing different characters, the flirt tones differed so much between potential LI's. The initial flirt with Blackwall in Haven lets the Inquisitor come across as smooth and teasing, flirting with Sera is direct and cute, flirting with Dorian is charming and evasive, flirting with Cullen veers between Hawke levels of direct "have you taken a vow of celibacy?" Aka "are you DTF" and then all shy and uncertain after :/
It's so confusing.

[R2s Muse]

I like my ladies to be flirtatious and confident and in control. It felt like I was playing different characters, the flirt tones differed so much between potential LI's. The initial flirt with Blackwall in Haven lets the Inquisitor come across as smooth and teasing, flirting with Sera is direct and cute, flirting with Dorian is charming and evasive, flirting with Cullen veers between Hawke levels of direct "have you taken a vow of celibacy?" Aka "are you DTF" and then all shy and uncertain after :/
It's so confusing.

I felt this way about Solas sometimes as well. Even with his limited Content, our conversations werent what I was expecting sometimes.
Fade tongue indeed!

Edited to add: of course none of this compares to smooth operator hawke! LOL

[Tishina]

I like my ladies to be flirtatious and confident and in control. It felt like I was playing different characters, the flirt tones differed so much between potential LI's. The initial flirt with Blackwall in Haven lets the Inquisitor come across as smooth and teasing, flirting with Sera is direct and cute, flirting with Dorian is charming and evasive, flirting with Cullen veers between Hawke levels of direct "have you taken a vow of celibacy?" Aka "are you DTF" and then all shy and uncertain after :/
It's so confusing.

 

I felt this way about Solas sometimes as well. Even with his limited Content, our conversations werent what I was expecting sometimes.
Fade tongue indeed!

Edited to add: of course none of this compares to smooth operator hawke! LOL

I found the Blackwall flirts suited me, and the Cassandra and Dorian ones. Sera's completely put me off as either a Dalish (issues with elves) and dwarf (comments on short, how cute - are rarely a big hit with short people.) Solas and Cullen's are the ones I found most difficult, honestly. Solas had some of the best lines for flirtatious and confident (fade tongue ftw!) but not consistently. The options with Cullen are downright schizophrenic if you aren't going for rather uncertain and sweet.

[Owlfruit Potion]

Many of the flirts you get for Cullen were perfect for my taste--subtle but not self-effacing. Like the very first one after he says "you didn't come here for a lecture," and the one after he says he's gotten used to mages disliking him on principle. I didn't like the ones on either end of the spectrum, though (e.g. the vows ones on one end vs. all the mage-specific could you ever think of me as a human being despite my horrible curse? stuff on the other), and as you guys have said, they were definitely all over the place. Given that you don't have to take all of them, though, "all over the place" might be the closest we'll ever get to having a variety of options at every point, and it beats having a romance with a consistent tone for the PC that you don't like. *glares at Sebastian's semi-romance*

[panichord]

Many of the flirts you get for Cullen were perfect for my taste--subtle but not self-effacing. Like the very first one after he says "you didn't come here for a lecture," and the one after he says he's gotten used to mages disliking him on principle. I didn't like the ones on either end of the spectrum, though (e.g. the vows ones on one end vs. all the mage-specific could you ever think of me as a human being despite my horrible curse? stuff on the other), and as you guys have said, they were definitely all over the place. Given that you don't have to take all of them, though, "all over the place" might be the closest we'll ever get to having a variety of options at every point, and it beats having a romance with a consistent tone for the PC that you don't like. *glares at Sebastian's semi-romance*

Not gonna lie, but this is the main reason I haven't rolled a mage with him. It's very off-putting to have a mage PC question their romatic validity alongisde what they feel Cullen believes. I don't like it. I can see where the mage storyline gives the romance more flavor and is very dynamic to character growth, but I'm not convinced it's positive.

 

It seems the PC is questioning their mage-likeness just as much as Cullen. That or consistently trying to push him away through bringing it up as well as trying to prove something.

 

It's just not the foundation that floats my boat.

 

 

I found the Blackwall flirts suited me, and the Cassandra and Dorian ones. Sera's completely put me off as either a Dalish (issues with elves) and dwarf (comments on short, how cute - are rarely a big hit with short people.) Solas and Cullen's are the ones I found most difficult, honestly. Solas had some of the best lines for flirtatious and confident (fade tongue ftw!) but not consistently. The options with Cullen are downright schizophrenic if you aren't going for rather uncertain and sweet.

I've really enjoyed my Blackwall PT. Even despite the 'my identity, and to a lesser extenet life, is a lie' story arc. His amount of caring and being an active companion (the man likes to talk in banter from what I've seen) is awesome. It's nice having a companion that shows his interest throughout the game too.

 

Cullen still holds my DAI heart, but man a part of me wishes we could've had some field/companion type moments with him. Of course, that's probably just me being nostalgic for Alistair and DAO.

[Owlfruit Potion]

Not gonna lie, but this is the main reason I haven't rolled a mage with him. It's very off-putting to have a mage PC question their romatic validity alongisde what they feel Cullen believes. I don't like it. I can see where the mage storyline gives the romance more flavor and is very dynamic to character growth, but I'm not convinced it's positive.

 

It seems the PC is questioning their mage-likeness just as much as Cullen. That or consistently trying to push him away through bringing it up as well as trying to prove something.

 

It's just not the foundation that floats my boat.

I've said this before so apologies if I sound like a broken record, but to reiterate, my mage's relationship Cullen was nothing like that at all. Nothing's forcing the player to take the class-specific dialogue, and I didn't for the ones that were like that. And there are some mage-specific options with him that aren't that way (e.g. when he tries to make small talk about the Circle, poor guy). IIRC there are some generally-available flirts with him that are also overly self-effacing IMO, so I probably shouldn't have used those as an example.

[panichord]

I've said this before so apologies if I sound like a broken record, but to reiterate, my mage's relationship Cullen was nothing like that at all. Nothing's forcing the player to take the class-specific dialogue, and I didn't for the ones that were like that. And there are some mage-specific options with him that aren't that way (e.g. when he tries to make small talk about the Circle, poor guy). IIRC there are some generally-available flirts with him that are also overly self-effacing IMO, so I probably shouldn't have used those as an example.

haha no doubt. I've watched a few PTs on youtube that chose all of the mage-specific romance options. Many of them, to me, just felt off. I dunno. I leave my mages to Solas and Blackwall. 

 

Don't get me wrong there is certainly a lot of character depth that comes from the mage arc with Cullen. It's definitely an interesting spin on it, all things considered

[Tishina]

Not gonna lie, but this is the main reason I haven't rolled a mage with him. It's very off-putting to have a mage PC question their romatic validity alongisde what they feel Cullen believes. I don't like it. I can see where the mage storyline gives the romance more flavor and is very dynamic to character growth, but I'm not convinced it's positive.

 

It seems the PC is questioning their mage-likeness just as much as Cullen. That or consistently trying to push him away through bringing it up as well as trying to prove something.

 

It's just not the foundation that floats my boat.

 

 

I've really enjoyed my Blackwall PT. Even despite the 'my identity, and to a lesser extenet life, is a lie' story arc. His amount of caring and being an active companion (the man likes to talk in banter from what I've seen) is awesome. It's nice having a companion that shows his interest throughout the game too.

 

Cullen still holds my DAI heart, but man a part of me wishes we could've had some field/companion type moments with him. Of course, that's probably just me being nostalgic for Alistair and DAO.

What Owlfruit Potion said about a mage PT is absolutely the way to go imo; my Dalish mage took one option with him about mages (reasonably wanting to make sure an ex-Templar was OK with a determinedly apostate mage) and that was it. I wish they hadn't wasted so much VO time on asking essentially the same thing over and over myself and included more for a Dalish/non-Andrastrian IQ because I loved the one option I had on that which let me basically ask if this was just an exotic fling for him. I would have liked a couple of humorous teases about how the non-Dalish think all Dalish dance naked in the moonlight or eat all their meat raw or something.

 

I have very mixed feelings about the Blackwall romance aside from the obvious. Some of the flirts are very smooth and exactly the kind of thing I like, and the VO is really good at projecting passion. I also like that he doesn't kiss you in the barn but takes you outside in full sight of the merchants, it fits his personality. I don't think the content is spread out very well, and I detest the way they screw up the heights for dwarves and qunari just so they could retain him walking you backwards in both romance scenes. The first romance scene in the IQ's room just doesn't do a lot for me either for some reason.

[panichord]

What Owlfruit Potion said about a mage PT is absolutely the way to go imo; my Dalish mage took one option with him about mages (reasonably wanting to make sure an ex-Templar was OK with a determinedly apostate mage) and that was it. I wish they hadn't wasted so much VO time on asking essentially the same thing over and over myself and included more for a Dalish/non-Andrastrian IQ because I loved the one option I had on that which let me basically ask if this was just an exotic fling for him. I would have liked a couple of humorous teases about how the non-Dalish think all Dalish dance naked in the moonlight or eat all their meat raw or something.

 

I have very mixed feelings about the Blackwall romance aside from the obvious. Some of the flirts are very smooth and exactly the kind of thing I like, and the VO is really good at projecting passion. I also like that he doesn't kiss you in the barn but takes you outside in full sight of the merchants, it fits his personality. I don't think the content is spread out very well, and I detest the way they screw up the heights for dwarves and qunari just so they could retain him walking you backwards in both romance scenes. The first romance scene in the IQ's room just doesn't do a lot for me either for some reason.

haha I have yet to see this one. Seems my DAI youtube snooping isn't over!

 

I'd have to agree on that. His seems to get rushed at Skyhold if you talk to him too much. I reallywish they would force some period of waiting and flirting. I love me some progressing romance. Eh, I'm assuming that's a game engine issue? That scene was nice in the 'trying to make someone feel worth it' sort of way. It definitely had that bittersweet edge to it. I'll have to see how it blends with the rest of his romance. That's as far as I've gotten with Blackwall for now though. Still working Solas at the moment. Hopefully, I'll have time tonight to find that line you mentioned earlier

[Tishina]

haha I have yet to see this one. Seems my DAI youtube snooping isn't over!

 

I'd have to agree on that. His seems to get rushed at Skyhold if you talk to him too much. I reallywish they would force some period of waiting and flirting. I love me some progressing romance. Eh, I'm assuming that's a game engine issue? That scene was nice in the 'trying to make someone feel worth it' sort of way. It definitely had that bittersweet edge to it. I'll have to see how it blends with the rest of his romance. That's as far as I've gotten with Blackwall for now though. Still working Solas at the moment. Hopefully, I'll have time tonight to find that line you mentioned earlier

Most people don't take that conversation option so it isn't easy to find, but I felt it fit my Dalish who wasn't taking it for granted that a human was treating a Dalish as a serious partner. After the first kiss when you have two non-kiss options when talking about "us", one of them about "the Inquisitor and her commander - gossip" and the other is about the fact you're Dalish. He stammers and says that in the circle humans and elves weren't treated differently so he hadn't thought about it, and is that a problem? One of the three options to respond is, I think, "Maybe. Is this just a fling?" (you actually say "I don't know. Maybe. If you're not serious..." and he says very firmly, "I am." A lot of people don't like that one for various reasons, mostly for putting him on the spot, I guess. I think it's exactly the direct question my Dalish would, reasonably, ask at least once given the normal power structure between humans and elves. I particularly like his very simple "I am" myself because it feels like there's so much behind that word. Though I'd have liked the chance (on any Dalish) to gently point out to him that the fact that the templars themselves were all human should have reminded him that elves were only equals at one end of the power structure.

[BevH]

this is speculation. The wiki article talks about the forgotten ones. The old gods may be the same, but it hasn't been established yet.

Sorry to jump into this conversation late, but according to WoT 2, Imshael is a Forgotten One. There's been no mention that I know of about any others. At least not that I know of.

[R2s Muse]

Sorry to jump into this conversation late, but according to WoT 2, Imshael is a Forgotten One. There's been no mention that I know of about any others. At least not that I know of.

Imshael's codex from DA:I said he's one of the Forbidden ones, along with the others, like Gaxkang, who have shown up throughout dragon age. Like, Imshael, they are demons. Those are not the Old Gods, however, which are the dragons who turn into archdemons. Nor are they the Forgotten Ones, which are elven gods, who may or may not also be the Old Gods. (edited to add: but if the elven gods are, along with the old gods, the Maker's first children and also denizens of the Fade from before the Veil, according to my fave conspiracy theory, it would be cool if all three groups were one and the same.  )

 

:waves: Welcome back, btw!

[R2s Muse]

So for anyone following, new chapter!
 
Fool’s Errand 13: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by R2s Muse
Summary: Three years after allowing Marian Hawke to escape Kirkwall, a disgraced Cullen is sent on a desperate quest to find her. Can he earn her trust in time to regain what he’s lost and finally redeem them all for the role they played in igniting the mage-templar war? Set in 9:40, after the events of DA2 and Asunder, now slightly AU to DA:I.
 
Pairings: f!Hawke x Cullen
 
Chapter Summary: Hawke, Cullen and friends succeed in crashing Alistair’s ball, and it goes both better and worse than they expected as they encounter some familiar faces. And, dancing may be involved.
 
Chapter 13 on AO3
 
Excerpt: 

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The sister turned to the companions, nodding her head in parting, but stopped when she seemed to notice Cullen for the first time.
 
Her eyes lit up appreciatively, but also with an unfortunate flicker of recognition. “And, who is this you are hiding away at the wall?” She laughed again and took a step toward Cullen. “Strange to see a crusader for mage rights keeping company with a templar.”
 
“You know each other?” Hawke asked in surprise. Her too-curious eyes bounced between them before settling on Cullen, demanding answers he couldn’t give.
 
His mouth worked silently as he struggled to answer. Why would the sister reveal their connection? Did she want Hawke to suspect him? A cold trickle of sweat worked its way down the small of his back.
 
The sister gave another trill of laughter. “Ah, my manners. Ser, you are too polite to admit that you’ve forgotten our acquaintance. We met at the Circle Tower in Ferelden, albeit under rather dire circumstances. I was with the Hero of Ferelden when she liberated the Tower from Uldred. I am Leliana.”

 

[Asperath]

So for anyone following, new chapter!
 
Fool’s Errand 13: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by R2s Muse
Summary: Three years after allowing Marian Hawke to escape Kirkwall, a disgraced Cullen is sent on a desperate quest to find her. Can he earn her trust in time to regain what he’s lost and finally redeem them all for the role they played in igniting the mage-templar war? Set in 9:40, after the events of DA2 and Asunder, before DA:I.
 
Pairings: f!Hawke x Cullen
 
Chapter Summary: Hawke, Cullen and friends succeed in crashing Alistair’s ball, and it goes both better and worse than they expected as they encounter some familiar faces. And, dancing may be involved.
 
Chapter 13 on AO3
 

Yay!! Thanks R2

[Tishina]

So for anyone following, new chapter!
 
Fool’s Errand 13: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by R2s Muse
Summary: Three years after allowing Marian Hawke to escape Kirkwall, a disgraced Cullen is sent on a desperate quest to find her. Can he earn her trust in time to regain what he’s lost and finally redeem them all for the role they played in igniting the mage-templar war? Set in 9:40, after the events of DA2 and Asunder, now slightly AU to DA:I.
 
Pairings: f!Hawke x Cullen
 
Chapter Summary: Hawke, Cullen and friends succeed in crashing Alistair’s ball, and it goes both better and worse than they expected as they encounter some familiar faces. And, dancing may be involved.
 
Chapter 13 on AO3
 
Excerpt: 

Spoiler

The sister turned to the companions, nodding her head in parting, but stopped when she seemed to notice Cullen for the first time.
 
Her eyes lit up appreciatively, but also with an unfortunate flicker of recognition. “And, who is this you are hiding away at the wall?” She laughed again and took a step toward Cullen. “Strange to see a crusader for mage rights keeping company with a templar.”
 
“You know each other?” Hawke asked in surprise. Her too-curious eyes bounced between them before settling on Cullen, demanding answers he couldn’t give.
 
His mouth worked silently as he struggled to answer. Why would the sister reveal their connection? Did she want Hawke to suspect him? A cold trickle of sweat worked its way down the small of his back.
 
The sister gave another trill of laughter. “Ah, my manners. Ser, you are too polite to admit that you’ve forgotten our acquaintance. We met at the Circle Tower in Ferelden, albeit under rather dire circumstances. I was with the Hero of Ferelden when she liberated the Tower from Uldred. I am Leliana.”

 

Woohoo! Wonderful way to start the morning, thank you!

[sagefic]

UNF. So much this. I definitely wouldn't call him uptight. He's just holding himself back. But once he lets go...? Hooo boy.

He may be grim and fatalistic. But he still wants to get you in bed.

 

 

Dropping in a little late on the flirt discussion, but yes, SO much this ^. what is there in the solasmance hints at all the stuff that's not there. *fans self*

 

Cullenmance mage line: okay, i'm gonna defend that line a bit. 'cause i loved it. I did not take that as 'could you like me in spite of the curse.' << even a confident-in-her-magic quizzy might ask that. i think there's a world of difference between working with/being friends with someone and being in a relationship with them. cullen has this long, tricky history with mages. at this point, he's potentially has been revealing all his issues with lyrium withdrawals - which are made worse by the torment put on him by mages. so i found it completely legit that the quizzy might want to clear the air there. the other flirt prompts there imply to me that cullen has totally been thinking about the quizzy in that way - and that he knows she's possibly interested. i took it that a mage quizzy might be thinking the thing that has him holding back is the magic issue. it's possible that a mage quizzy would like to be sure that it wasn't the magic that was a problem. but then again, even a mage quizzy can ignore that issue by choosing another flirt altogether.

 

i think the flirt prompts are almost always a bit schitzo, though. i mean, dialog wheel only has so much flexibility. so many times the only given flirt prompt is wAY too forward or WAY too subtle. i end up re-writing it in my head. example: the solas 'felt the whole world change' stuff with lavellen had me rolling my eyes. i was not a fan of her lines there. but then, i guess it suited my lavellen. i vastly preferred playing the WAY-tentative flirts with cullen.

 

but that's me.

[Tishina]

So, has anyone else made themselves cry while trying to write something? (Note that this isn't about a current story... )

[EggplantRed]

So, has anyone else made themselves cry while trying to write something? (Note that this isn't about a current story... )

I have made myself quite teary eyed before...

[fontofnothing]

Hey everyone!  Been out of town for a while, and just recently got back, so thought I'd post the Cullen shots I didn't get a chance to post before leaving:

 

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G'night all!

[Tishina]

Hey everyone!  Been out of town for a while, and just recently got back, so thought I'd post the Cullen shots I didn't get a chance to post before leaving:

 

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G'night all!

Just a few pictures

Lovely, thank you!