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[Owlfruit Potion]

Haha, I see   I don't like Amell anyway. She broke Cullen's heart. My Grey Warden is a Cousland anyway so Amell never existed in my Dragon age world; Cullen's heart can be 100% to the Inquisitor like this  (it's more romantic this way I think)

Maybe in your worldstate--certainly not in mine. And as for the last two comments there... different strokes etc.

 

My point was just to recommend the fic if you wanted to read it, though not to the point of crawling through ff.n myself at work to get the link. And that for some reason turning Cullen or people associated with him into cats is less out-there than you might think, even in fics that long predate Ye Olde Lion Helm!

Modifié par Owlfruit Potion, 15 juillet 2015 - 10:01 .

[Vanalia]

Yes that's why I said it depends on what kind of hero you made in DAO. I always play as a human female thief/archer in my official first playthroughs. Never really liked playing as a mage, but sometimes I try on my second playthrough just to try other romances.

So we will never see Cullen with the Lion helmet? It was just in the trailers? Why?

[Cerulione]

A writing prompt is an idea, or a suggestion, or a request. You're "prompting" the writer to write about something.

 

Generally it's like, you have an idea for a story you'd like to read but can't/don't want to write it yourself, and then you have a writer who wants to write something but has no ideas on what to write about at the moment... you tell a writer about your idea, and maybe they'll be inspired by it and get working.

 

I gave you one to your tumblr ^^. TBH I was tempted in giving in exact phrases from Frost' Road Not Taken but it might be hellishly difficult, so "Choices & Consequences". Or just "Choices".

[sunhair]

Yes that's why I said it depends on what kind of hero you made in DAO. I always play as a human female thief/archer in my official first playthroughs. Never really liked playing as a mage, but sometimes I try on my second playthrough just to try other romances.

So we will never see Cullen with the Lion helmet? It was just in the trailers? Why?

I think it is in this interview at the like 58 min mark they explain about the helmet I really would've loved if they kept the helmet

Spoiler

[riverbanks]

I gave you one to your tumblr ^^. TBH I was tempted in giving in exact phrases from Frost' Road Not Taken but it might be hellishly difficult, so "Choices & Consequences". Or just "Choices".

 

Hahahaha, never fear, my dear! Tish gave me the most difficult prompt so far (in the sense that I don't think I can do it justice with a quick stream of thought so I'll have to Sit And Think About It), but I shall not back down from a challenge! *hero pose*

[Vanalia]

Yes I've heard about that technical problem they had so they put his helmet in the trailer, but it doesn't explain why they didn't show that helmet again somewhere else in the game, after all it was already created, so why not use it.

[Cerulione]

Hahahaha, never fear, my dear! Tish gave me the most difficult prompt so far (in the sense that I don't think I can do it justice with a quick stream of thought so I'll have to Sit And Think About It), but I shall not back down from a challenge! *hero pose*

 

Alright then

 

How about either one of these?

 

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—

I took the one less traveled by,

And that has made all the difference.

 

(Robert Frost' Road Not Taken)

 

 

My life -
How much more of it remains?
The night is brief.

(Masaoka Shiki's Haiku)

 

 

[Tishina]

Hahahaha, never fear, my dear! Tish gave me the most difficult prompt so far (in the sense that I don't think I can do it justice with a quick stream of thought so I'll have to Sit And Think About It), but I shall not back down from a challenge! *hero pose*

Yes, score! Besides, it involves someone you like a great deal more than I do so I think you could really do it justice (and maybe shift my opinion, like R2s writing has done for me with Hawke)

[riverbanks]

 

Alright then

 

How about either one of these?

 

(Robert Frost' Road Not Taken)

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(Masaoka Shiki's Haiku)

-

 

I like them both! They really give you a lot to think about, when applied to Cullen's life and some of his questionable choices, and some choices that were made for him instead. (I will try to work on them from a less hopeless angle, I'm already making myself sad enough as it is with the prompt I'm writing for right now )

 

Yes, score! Besides, it involves someone you like a great deal more than I do so I think you could really do it justice (and maybe shift my opinion, like R2s writing has done for me with Hawke)

 

Aah, I wouldn't take on that responsibility! Loghain is one of those characters I love (like Meredith) who are hard and not always pleasant to unpack, and I don't take anyone's right to detest them away if they don't work as a narrative device for you. But I'll try my best, because I do like the idea of exploring that weird/obviously super uncomfortable/even potentially triggery point of his life that's kind of just swept under the rug once he exits stage left. It'll just take a little longer than these faster oneshots I'm forcing myself to churn out, but it'll come along.

[Tishina]

I like them both! They really give you a lot to think about, when applied to Cullen's life and some of his questionable choices, and some choices that were made for him instead. (I will try to work on them from a less hopeless angle, I'm already making myself sad enough as it is with the prompt I'm writing for right now )

 

 

Aah, I wouldn't take on that responsibility! Loghain is one of those characters I love (like Meredith) who are hard and not always pleasant to unpack, and I don't take anyone's right to detest them away if they don't work as a narrative device for you. But I'll try my best, because I do like the idea of exploring that weird/obviously super uncomfortable/even potentially triggery point of his life that's kind of just swept under the rug once he exits stage left. It'll just take a little longer than these faster oneshots I'm forcing myself to churn out, but it'll come along.

Oh, I don't detest him at all. And at some level, I sympathized...at least up to a certain point. I'd have kept him alive at least sometimes if it hadn't meant losing Alistair from the party...

[riverbanks]

Oh, I don't detest him at all. And at some level, I sympathized...at least up to a certain point. I'd have kept him alive at least sometimes if it hadn't meant losing Alistair from the party...

 

You know, losing Alistair for the very very first time felt really horrible, one of those "sorry I have to leave the game running and just go cry myself for days in bed right now" moments, but after that first traumatic experience... I sorta grew to like it? I mean, in a narrative sense, that scene is really well done, a perfect wake-up call for the fact that even though you're the big hero of the story, sometimes you still can't have it all. For my Warden it was a huge tipping point for her character, and for me a clear realization of how far she had derailed from where she'd started all the way back in Castle Cousland. After all the tears, I really appreciate the whole scene in narrative terms now, in retrospect.

 

(also I find the look of abject loathing Alistair gives you in that scene really really hot, for some reason)

Spoiler

 

Maker...

[Cerulione]

I like them both! They really give you a lot to think about, when applied to Cullen's life and some of his questionable choices, and some choices that were made for him instead. (I will try to work on them from a less hopeless angle, I'm already making myself sad enough as it is with the prompt I'm writing for right now )

 

 

Aah, I wouldn't take on that responsibility! Loghain is one of those characters I love (like Meredith) who are hard and not always pleasant to unpack, and I don't take anyone's right to detest them away if they don't work as a narrative device for you. But I'll try my best, because I do like the idea of exploring that weird/obviously super uncomfortable/even potentially triggery point of his life that's kind of just swept under the rug once he exits stage left. It'll just take a little longer than these faster oneshots I'm forcing myself to churn out, but it'll come along.

 

I really feel that both poems can actually be seen in any angles. Frost' one (Road Not Taken) is basically about making unusual life choices no? So it doesn't always have to be angsty although it can be something deep.

 

Wow Loghain... I'm curious on how you'll write him. Can't wait to see it

 

 

 

You know, losing Alistair for the very very first time felt really horrible, one of those "sorry I have to leave the game running and just go cry myself for days in bed right now" moments, but after that first traumatic experience... I sorta grew to like it? I mean, in a narrative sense, that scene is really well done, a perfect wake-up call for the fact that even though you're the big hero of the story, sometimes you still can't have it all. For my Warden it was a huge tipping point for her character, and for me a clear realization of how far she had derailed from where she'd started all the way back in Castle Cousland. After all the tears, I really appreciate the whole scene in narrative terms now, in retrospect.

 

(also I find the look of abject loathing Alistair gives you in that scene really really hot, for some reason)

Spoiler

 

Maker...

 

I think that personally to have Loghain in the group I'll have to make Al & Anora marry each other. Up to now it's only Youtube videos but Loghain's character development is apparently really interesting. Between him & Dog, it's heartbreaking to hear the story of his old Mabari...

[Vanalia]

I could never make the choice of losing Alistair (after all I wanted my perfect ending and be his queen  ) so every time I had to kill Loghain...

 

Back to Cullen: does he have anger problems because of lyrium? I find it amusing to see that poor target full of knives in his office every time I walk in  Or maybe he throws a knife in it every time he wants to murder Sera because of ther pranks 

[Cerulione]

I could never make the choice of losing Alistair (after all I wanted my perfect ending and be his queen  ) so every time I had to kill Loghain...

 

Back to Cullen: does he have anger problems because of lyrium? I find it amusing to see that poor target full of knives in his office every time I walk in  Or maybe he throws a knife in it every time he wants to murder Sera because of ther pranks 

 

Beside Lyrium (which I guess bring him even closer to the edge), I also believe it's his personality who's really a bottled one. I get this feeling Cullen is someone who's quite bottled up.

[Owlfruit Potion]

@user 3h3 hours ago
@bbattye was there a real person used to model Cullens face in DAI? It's for...science... (Sorry if I asked you already!)

Brianne Battye ‏@bbattye 1h1 hour ago
@user This sounds like a question for art! Hey @MattRhodesArt - do you have an answer?

Matt Rhodes ‏@MattRhodesArt 49s50 seconds ago
@bbattye @user No real face. I believe he was drawn by Ramil Sunga and built by Uri So

 

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Not surprising (given comments in that interview about building on previous models for returning characters), but glad to hear it TBH!

[Cerulione]

@user 3h3 hours ago
@bbattye was there a real person used to model Cullens face in DAI? It's for...science... (Sorry if I asked you already!)

Brianne Battye ‏@bbattye 1h1 hour ago
@user This sounds like a question for art! Hey @MattRhodesArt - do you have an answer?

Matt Rhodes ‏@MattRhodesArt 49s50 seconds ago
@bbattye @user No real face. I believe he was drawn by Ramil Sunga and built by Uri So

 

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Not surprising (given comments in that interview about building on previous models for returning characters), but glad to hear it TBH!

 

Personally I believe that it's a bit harder to create a character's face based on a certain RL model. Except on several distinct cases, the created character might need to look not too identical with the model, yet retaining the similarities all the same. It's... hard. Guess that it's easier to start first with the concept artist's first impression/imagination of the character based on the story & their personality, then looking for reference features to enhance this personality. I heard that in Disney they develop the character visually after defining the personality etc2 and not the contrary since it's an idea that needs to be transmitted more than just the visual features.

Seriously I'd love to know Bioware's methods for character development

[riverbanks]

I think that personally to have Loghain in the group I'll have to make Al & Anora marry each other. Up to now it's only Youtube videos but Loghain's character development is apparently really interesting. Between him & Dog, it's heartbreaking to hear the story of his old Mabari...

 

Well you know how i feel about that marriage, so that's really not a problem to me. Oh the lengths I could go talking about all the parallels you can draw in Alistair and Anora's relationship between him losing the Warden and her losing Cailan, and how having that in common could help break the wall they build between them... but well, maybe not in the Cullen thread. /ending super ot  derail

[Cerulione]

Well you know how i feel about that marriage, so that's really not a problem to me. Oh the lengths I could go talking about all the parallels you can draw in Alistair and Anora's relationship between him losing the Warden and her losing Cailan, and how having that in common could help break the wall they build between them... but well, maybe not in the Cullen thread. /ending super ot  derail

 

TBH no not really

I'd love to know though, PM me for discussion?

 

Basically I think that Anora & Alistair can be a good pair. Probably at first it'll be a "forced" political union but TBH I can see Alistair's good heart to win over her after a time. (On PTs I make him king with Anora, I don't romance him though). TBH I can see them join force for a common goal, and then they might even love each other after a time.

 

To stay on topic please have some Cullen ^^

 

http://lilyrutherfor...st/124164084722

 

 

 

http://alpheratz1.tu...f-my-commission

[Sifr]

Beside Lyrium (which I guess bring him even closer to the edge), I also believe it's his personality who's really a bottled one. I get this feeling Cullen is someone who's quite bottled up.

 

Yeah, Cullen across the series has never been exactly an extrovert or one to show his emotions all that often, he's always come across as a very private person who tends to keep things close to his chest. While his interactions with Hawke do get warmer and more cordial over the seven years in DA2, you still see that he's very guarded when talking to them as they are only casual acquantainces.

 

I don't think that Cullen's necessarily an introverted sort of person, just someone who finds it very hard to open up to other people unless he really takes the time to get to know them and relax around them, to allow his sense of humour and less serious side to win through.

 

But he's definitely the sort of person who bottles up his emotions and deal with them in private or not at all, rather than confront them head-on or speak up to whatever is the source of his frustrations. While working for the Inquisition must be stressful since they're trying to prevent the end of the world, you have to wonder how many training dummies he might have turned into murder-knife pin-cushions during his tenure in Kirkwall, with all the chaos that must have crossed his desk back then?

[Cerulione]

Yeah, Cullen across the series has never been exactly an extrovert or one to show his emotions all that often, he's always come across as a very private person who tends to keep things close to his chest. While his interactions with Hawke do get warmer and more cordial over the seven years in DA2, you still see that he's very guarded when talking to them as they are only casual acquantainces.

 

I don't think that Cullen's necessarily an introverted sort of person, just someone who finds it very hard to open up to other people unless he really takes the time to get to know them and relax around them, to allow his sense of humour and less serious side to win through.

 

But he's definitely the sort of person who bottles up his emotions and deal with them in private or not at all, rather than confront them head-on or speak up to whatever is the source of his frustrations. While working for the Inquisition must be stressful since they're trying to prevent the end of the world, you have to wonder how many training dummies he might have turned into murder-knife pin-cushions during his tenure in Kirkwall, with all the chaos that must have crossed his desk back then?

 

I even still feel that he might still guard up a lot with people he knows well & can relax around. I find him quite considerate as a person, he's not someone who'll really confide anything if not really necessary. Probably in reason not to burden anyone else.

 

Probably he doesn't even really open up to people he can relax around. Like he does play chess with Dorian, cards with Varric etc but I don't think he'll actually talk to them about how he feels. It's probably conversations about subjects, opinions, point of views, but not about emotions.

 

That Murder Knife scene... he's... intense there.

[zestalyn]

Beside Lyrium (which I guess bring him even closer to the edge), I also believe it's his personality who's really a bottled one. I get this feeling Cullen is someone who's quite bottled up.

 

I don't think that Cullen's necessarily an introverted sort of person, just someone who finds it very hard to open up to other people unless he really takes the time to get to know them and relax around them, to allow his sense of humour and less serious side to win through.

I'm fascinated w/ the topic of introverts vs extroverts so if I can throw in my 2 cents on this train of thought - If I had to pick between the two, I would label Culls as more of an introvert rather than extrovert. The main difference btw the two is that intro's recharge with peace/solitude, while extro's recharge w/ company/conversation. You can have an introvert who comes off as outgoing and talkative as any extrovert (vice versa), but in their free personal time, they enjoy solitude to reinvigorate themselves.

What makes me see Cullen as more of an introvert:

1. Although he loves playing w/ his siblings, he likes to escape to lake for peace and quiet. Classic introvert behavior. Not that extroverts don't value alone time, but intro's are more likely to make a habit of it, and the fact that he did as a child says something
2. When you ask about his opinion of Varric, he makes it clear that on his voyage to Haven, he did not make much conversation w/ Varric, but Varric made plenty of conversation w/ Cullen typical extrovert vs introvert dynamic
3. Down for playing chess, not as down for a party (I'm referring to both Winter Palace and his initial resistance to Wicked Grace) - Sure many introverts love to party like an animal (like me loll) but since they're easily stimulated, they're likely to be more enthusiastic for one-on-one times more than bigger social situations where they may be over-stimulated and easily exhausted.

[Vanalia]

But Cole says that Cullen is "more peaceful, stronger" when the lady Inquisitor holds him, I guess it helps him a lot just to be with her even if he does not confess often.

 

After the intimate scene and his nightmare he clearly says he does not want to worry her, and she can answer that he should let her worry a little at least, and he seems ok with that, it might be a good step ^^

 

Alistair on the contrary was talking all the time about his fears and emotions, another difference between the two 

[Asperath]

TBH no not really

I'd love to know though, PM me for discussion?

 

Basically I think that Anora & Alistair can be a good pair. Probably at first it'll be a "forced" political union but TBH I can see Alistair's good heart to win over her after a time. (On PTs I make him king with Anora, I don't romance him though). TBH I can see them join force for a common goal, and then they might even love each other after a time.

 

 

The rational part of my brain agrees, the other part screams out "NO!!" probably because I personally dislike Anora.

I do think they can come to a common understand and even a companionship/friendship/affection but personally I don't see it as becoming a romantic love. I can't say I ever really believed she was "in love" with Cailan, I don't know she is capable, and more so that she feels she has the right & training to rule Feraldan. Maybe if we were given more of a background & story to her, I might have a different opinion (I am also aware I could be totally biased against her, but the whole power hungry thing rubbed me wrong way in DAO)

 

I'm fascinated w/ the topic of introverts vs extroverts so if I can throw in my 2 cents on this train of thought - If I had to pick between the two, I would label Culls as more of an introvert rather than extrovert. The main difference btw the two is that intro's recharge with peace/solitude, while extro's recharge w/ company/conversation. You can have an introvert who comes off as outgoing and talkative as any extrovert (vice versa), but in their free personal time, they enjoy solitude to reinvigorate themselves.

What makes me see Cullen as more of an introvert:

1. Although he loves playing w/ his siblings, he likes to escape to lake for peace and quiet. Classic introvert behavior. Not that extroverts don't value alone time, but intro's are more likely to make a habit of it, and the fact that he did as a child says something
2. When you ask about his opinion of Varric, he makes it clear that on his voyage to Haven, he did not make much conversation w/ Varric, but Varric made plenty of conversation w/ Cullen typical extrovert vs introvert dynamic
3. Down for playing chess, not as down for a party (I'm referring to both Winter Palace and his initial resistance to Wicked Grace) - Sure many introverts love to party like an animal (like me loll) but since they're easily stimulated, they're likely to be more enthusiastic for one-on-one times more than bigger social situations where they may be over-stimulated and easily exhausted.

 

Yay another introvert! lol

I agree. I do see him as someone who would enjoy such quite time with his love interest as long as they respect that quiet time, like reading a book individually in each other's company (kinda like the bolded point)

[helloxina]

I always saw Cullen as quite introverted and less inclined to express his emotions although he clearly feels them quite intensely when he's on his own, hence the Lyrium kit flying at you when you walk into his room. His display of emotion and anger there compared to a comment he makes at the war table in which he is asked how he feels and he says he simply has a headache (or along those lines) is very telling. He clearly has a lot of conflicting feelings but has been trained and conditioned to surpress his feelings in order to provide service (Templars, feeling he should give up his commander role etc). But we start to see him be able to express those around the inquisitor like the nightmare scene and the Cole comment and that's one of my favourite parts of the romance. Gosh you could just talk about Cullen all day ^^.

[MaethorialBelle]

I'm just going to leave this here