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[Cerulione]

It's technically possible and not too difficult to splice sound clips from various sources and re-work them into a custom follower's lines, but that's actually copyright infrigement. There have been mods that did that, and they were taken down for copyright claim from the movies/series/etc the sound clips came from. That's why follower mods in Skyrim either use vanilla voices, or are custom-voiced by volunteering members of the community.

 

Greg couldn't do it for free himself, either, because it'd implicate a lot of legal problems for him work-wise. Unfortunately, if there was ever a fully-voiced Cullen follower mod, the best shot at it actually sounding like Cullen would have to be finding a volunteer voice actor who could emulate Greg's voice well enough. (it's not impossible, though! I remember there was one guy on tumblr who made a series of audio clips of himself reading love letters written by various characters, and he could do Cullen's, Alistair's and Zevran's voices really well)

 

(Reminds me! There was once a Fenris follower mod that used spliced audio from the game itself, working only with Gideon's lines as the various NPCs he plays. The modder never released it on the Nexus, though, because they were using assets (Fenris' hair and armor) from BioWare before BW released their official statement that they don't mind, and I think it eventually got lost in the older threads of Lover's Lab. Pity, it was a pretty ingenuous idea.)

 

Ah you mean lightgetsout? Yeah he did good impersonations of several DA characters, he did a few excellent Cullen one too IIRC. But his voice register isn't exactly Greg's though so well... Hehe Gideon did a good many standard NPC voice in Skyrim although it sounds really weird because of Tamrielic accents... Too bad, I'd love to hear more Greg as Curly.

 

So BW had issued official statement on the use of their asset for Skyrim mod...? Or just Fenris case?

 

Or you know, I'll just try to make Cullen as a Nord!Dragonborn warrior XD. Need to find the hair & that's that XD.

[Ariella]

There are a couple times when it comes close to him sounding a little miffed in response. I got them with Rhiannon because she generally chose the "gruff" responses. A good example would be the "sex" scene when he's at the door, you can say something along the lines of "duty first" and he clearly doesn't care for that response. There's another specific scene, but I can't think which one it is where he can respond with "so what if I am?" but he says it in a rather clipped way which to me had a sort of negative connotation. I'm thinking it might have been one of the scenes related to Samson.

There's also the line in the chapel if you've met with Flemeth in the Fade prior. "I've met someone claiming to be a god" I think, and he's not all that happy about it.

Oh and btw R2... you might like this:

Spoiler

Sting Don't Stand So Close To Me, Tuscany

[riverbanks]

There are a couple times when it comes close to him sounding a little miffed in response. I got them with Rhiannon because she generally chose the "gruff" responses. A good example would be the "sex" scene when he's at the door, you can say something along the lines of "duty first" and he clearly doesn't care for that response. There's another specific scene, but I can't think which one it is where he can respond with "so what if I am?" but he says it in a rather clipped way which to me had a sort of negative connotation. I'm thinking it might have been one of the scenes related to Samson.

 

Yeah, this line is in the Before The Dawn questline. I remember it because it was the straw that broke my camel's back in regards to that quest - I had been growing more and more frustrated with the person Cullen was turning into as I went through that storyline, and when he spat that out in response to a rather cordial line from the Inquisitor I realized I really, really did not like what that quest made of him. Alas.

 

But hey, BTD-related nastyness aside (which I just really can't take), Cullen doesn't have to be nice all the time. I love that he never really gets mad at the Inquisitor showing a little attitude or trying to sass him out in romance-related conversations and will turn her attitude around on her, call her out on her bluffs and lovingly tease her for trying to be all stoic and serious business and/or deflect everything with humor (mostly thinking of the lake, bedroom and prayer scenes). But I also love that he's no doormat, and that they don't always agree on everything and can get pretty snippy/even outright argue about stuff, outside of their little romance bubble. My IQ had a couple disagreements and arguments with Cullen where she'd say something and he wouldn't like that at all, or he'd say something and it would rub her all the wrong ways, and while it did make me frown at the time (I think I even moaned here in the thread at some point that it seemed like lately all Cullen and my IQ did was argue about everything, before I hit the sex and prayer scenes), later on I came to feel like that added a nice extra layer of depth to their relationship.

 

It's like, my Hawke and Warden had it way too easy with their love interests just falling helplessly in love with them and barely ever questioning their highly questionable choices, so I kind of like that for my Inky it wasn't just rainbows and butterflies all the way through. Eirinn literally had to murder a child to get Alistair to start questioning her sanity a little bit - it's possibly?? a little healthier that Cullen and Ariana can sometimes questions each other's beliefs and have a little spat over a cup of tea and try to see each other's point of view before either of them jumps the shark.

[riverbanks]

So BW had issued official statement on the use of their asset for Skyrim mod...? Or just Fenris case?

 

For any mods, actually. They don't mind importing of Dragon Age/Mass Effect assets into other games as mods, as long as it's not distributed for profit. There's at least a mod that imports several DA2 weapons into Skyrim, and another that imports Mass Effect guns into Fallout, that I know of, and BW's official stance then was that it's cool, as long as their assets are not being re-sold. Wasn't much of an issue until now, but with this new stuff of Steam trying to implement paid mods, who knows what'll happen.

[Sifr]

And what is this Dreamfall? I'm starting to get really curious.

 

It's part of The Longest Journey series of point-and-click adventure games, set in the magical world of Arcadia and technological world of Stark, both worlds connected via the Dreamtime (sorta like the Fade). The first two games, Longest Journey and Dreamfall are already out, while the latest game, Dreamfall: Chapters is currently being released episodically.

 

It's actually quite good, there's a few Dragon Age VA's in it, Nick Boulton (Hawke) is playing Kian, one of the main characters, Miranda Raison (Cass) voices Nela, Mark Healy (Ser Barris/Jory) voices a lot of NPCs... and if you liked Telltale's Walking Dead, Dave Fennoy (Lee) is Likho.

 

It's technically possible and not too difficult to splice sound clips from various sources and re-work them into a custom follower's lines, but that's actually copyright infrigement. There have been mods that did that, and they were taken down for copyright claim from the movies/series/etc the sound clips came from. That's why follower mods in Skyrim either use vanilla voices, or are custom-voiced by volunteering members of the community.

 

Greg couldn't do it for free himself, either, because it'd implicate a lot of legal problems for him work-wise. Unfortunately, if there was ever a fully-voiced Cullen follower mod, the best shot at it actually sounding like Cullen would have to be finding a volunteer voice actor who could emulate Greg's voice well enough. (it's not impossible, though! I remember there was one guy on tumblr who made a series of audio clips of himself reading love letters written by various characters, and he could do Cullen's, Alistair's and Zevran's voices really well)

 

(Reminds me! There was once a Fenris follower mod that used spliced audio from the game itself, working only with Gideon's lines as the various NPCs he plays. The modder never released it on the Nexus, though, because they were using assets (Fenris' hair and armor) from BioWare before BW released their official statement that they don't mind, and I think it eventually got lost in the older threads of Lover's Lab. Pity, it was a pretty ingenuous idea.)

 

But wasn't Gideon allowed to do that same thing when reprised Fenris for that machinima short based on Gaider's short story?

 

I know it's not the same thing exactly, but shouldn't the same thing rules regarding actors apply to both a non-profit mod and a non-profit fan-film... unless of course, the machinima people were only able to do so with permission from Gaider and Bioware before they went ahead with their project?

[Cerulione]

It's part of The Longest Journey series of point-and-click adventure games, set in the magical world of Arcadia and technological world of Stark, both worlds connected via the Dreamtime (sorta like the Fade). The first two games, Longest Journey and Dreamfall are already out, while the latest game, Dreamfall: Chapters is currently being released episodically.

 

It's actually quite good, there's a few Dragon Age VA's in it, Nick Boulton (Hawke) is playing Kian, one of the main characters, Miranda Raison (Cass) voices Nela, Mark Healy (Ser Barris/Jory) voices a lot of NPCs... and if you liked Telltale's Walking Dead, Dave Fennoy (Lee) is Likho.

 

 

But wasn't Gideon allowed to do that same thing when reprised Fenris for that machinima short based on Gaider's short story?

 

I know it's not the same thing exactly, but shouldn't the same thing rules regarding actors apply to both a non-profit mod and a non-profit fan-film... unless of course, the machinima people were only able to do so with permission from Gaider and Bioware before they went ahead with their project?

 

Hmmm I think it's less problem with Machinima's short because it's 100% all about Bioware's. The story Bioware's the character Bioware's, the ressource mostly BW's (it really looks like reuse of DA:O structure). In Skyrim it's Bethesda's. Other company, other game.

[riverbanks]

But wasn't Gideon allowed to do that same thing when reprised Fenris for that machinima short based on Gaider's short story?

 

I know it's not the same thing exactly, but shouldn't the same thing rules regarding actors apply to both a non-profit mod and a non-profit fan-film... unless of course, the machinima people were only able to do so with permission from Gaider and Bioware before they went ahead with their project?

 

No, it's more involved. Ceru's right, you get a mixed bag of copyright issues, union issues, working outside of contracts, working in theory for free for one company over the same work you've been paid to do before by another, etc. The Fenris video was still inside the BioWare sphere, it didn't involve other companies and messy copyright or contract breeches.

 

I don't know if the Machimina people had BW's permission but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they did, too  - the video was done at a time when the writers and actors were more closely involved with the fandom (around the same time Gaider was writing those little fill-in stories for Aimo to illustrate, for instance).

[R2s Muse]

Yep, he never responds negatively to anything you say in his romance scenes. The lake scene is one where you can try to sass him but he sasses you back, and then in the sex scene and the prayer one he has other great answers too for Inquisitors using the sarcastic or pragmatic lines. He always turns the Inquisitor's attitude right back around into some cute loving joke about how much he likes her anyway.

I can't help but think that part of this is because there's no advisor approval, tho. He can't disapprove of you officially, even if he gets grumbling at the War Table sometimes. :/

[R2s Muse]

Oh and btw R2... you might like this:

Spoiler

Sting Don't Stand So Close To Me, Tuscany

OMG!! Thank you!!

[Ariella]

It's like, my Hawke and Warden had it way too easy with their love interests just falling helplessly in love with them and barely ever questioning their highly questionable choices, so I kind of like that for my Inky it wasn't just rainbows and butterflies all the way through. Eirinn literally had to murder a child to get Alistair to start questioning her sanity a little bit - it's possibly?? a little healthier that Cullen and Ariana can sometimes questions each other's beliefs and have a little spat over a cup of tea and try to see each other's point of view before either of them jumps the shark.

I've seen people claim that Cullen is Alistair redux, which makes me scratch my head and go "did you actually play this?". His writing is top notch, and you're right, it is great things aren't always sweetness and light, but no outright "oh woe is me" angst.Of course we also know him better than any romance before, since we watched him grow through all three games.

It's part of The Longest Journey series of point-and-click adventure games, set in the magical world of Arcadia and technological world of Stark, both worlds connected via the Dreamtime (sorta like the Fade). The first two games, Longest Journey and Dreamfall are already out, while the latest game, Dreamfall: Chapters is currently being released episodically.
 
It's actually quite good, there's a few Dragon Age VA's in it, Nick Boulton (Hawke) is playing Kian, one of the main characters, Miranda Raison (Cass) voices Nela, Mark Healy (Ser Barris/Jory) voices a lot of NPCs... and if you liked Telltale's Walking Dead, Dave Fennoy (Lee) is Likho.

That sounds like fun. As soon as I run the new King's Quest into the ground, I'll have to give it a try.

"Who's that voice actor" has become a hobby of mine. I sat through KoA Reckoning listing the voices I recognized for example (Greg has a number of them.) It's always fun to go "huh?" when you run over a voice actor playing a character you'd never guess. Mark Meer as Jethann comes to mind. And then there's Six Degrees of Jen Hale.

OMG!! Thank you!!

I'm glad you like it. I hadn't listened to the song in a while, and it's been a favorite of mine for years so went poking around youtube. It's such a different performance considering when it was recorded. I like the bittersweet overtones.

I really am going to go to bed now, but one last image that has been driving me nuts. Been watching West Wing again and in the second season Martin Sheen, standing in the National Cathedral cursing out God (in Latin, no less) made me think of what Cullen would say to the Maker in a similar circumstance.

[MelissaGT]

Yeah, this line is in the Before The Dawn questline. I remember it because it was the straw that broke my camel's back in regards to that quest - I had been growing more and more frustrated with the person Cullen was turning into as I went through that storyline, and when he spat that out in response to a rather cordial line from the Inquisitor I realized I really, really did not like what that quest made of him. Alas.

 

But hey, BTD-related nastyness aside (which I just really can't take), Cullen doesn't have to be nice all the time. I love that he never really gets mad at the Inquisitor showing a little attitude or trying to sass him out in romance-related conversations and will turn her attitude around on her, call her out on her bluffs and lovingly tease her for trying to be all stoic and serious business and/or deflect everything with humor (mostly thinking of the lake, bedroom and prayer scenes). But I also love that he's no doormat, and that they don't always agree on everything and can get pretty snippy/even outright argue about stuff, outside of their little romance bubble. My IQ had a couple disagreements and arguments with Cullen where she'd say something and he wouldn't like that at all, or he'd say something and it would rub her all the wrong ways, and while it did make me frown at the time (I think I even moaned here in the thread at some point that it seemed like lately all Cullen and my IQ did was argue about everything, before I hit the sex and prayer scenes), later on I came to feel like that added a nice extra layer of depth to their relationship.

 

It's like, my Hawke and Warden had it way too easy with their love interests just falling helplessly in love with them and barely ever questioning their highly questionable choices, so I kind of like that for my Inky it wasn't just rainbows and butterflies all the way through. Eirinn literally had to murder a child to get Alistair to start questioning her sanity a little bit - it's possibly?? a little healthier that Cullen and Ariana can sometimes questions each other's beliefs and have a little spat over a cup of tea and try to see each other's point of view before either of them jumps the shark.

 

Oh don't get me wrong - I wouldn't want all "sunshine and rainbows." In fact, I think I remember mentioning before that I head canon him and Rhiannon getting into some pretty big scuffles. It's mainly focused on the fact that both of them are stretched so thin and are both struggling with the big "L" word though...no and I don't mean looooove.  They have to keep it so together all the time because they're the faces of the Inquisition that all the tension they can't release kinda boils over into their private lives. They really are each other's support structure, and all that tension and fighting leads to some pret-ty heavy makeup sessions. 

 

I think you were the on that told me how to go about having a more "organic" relationship (meaning that every couple fights now and again) with Alistair. If I ever play DA:O again (still waiting and wishing on that "Skip the Deep Roads" mod) I will be sure to take your advice!

 

For any mods, actually. They don't mind importing of Dragon Age/Mass Effect assets into other games as mods, as long as it's not distributed for profit. There's at least a mod that imports several DA2 weapons into Skyrim, and another that imports Mass Effect guns into Fallout, that I know of, and BW's official stance then was that it's cool, as long as their assets are not being re-sold. Wasn't much of an issue until now, but with this new stuff of Steam trying to implement paid mods, who knows what'll happen.

 

The only one I've seen so far was the DA:2 Champion mage armor. It looked sooooo cool from a distance, but it was pretty low rez and didn't look great up close. You guys know me, I have to get really up close with my screenshots. 

 

Pay mods for Skyrim was squashed almost as quickly as it was implemented. It caused a huge upheaval with the community with a huge split for or against. Valve came out and said they opened up a can of worms onto a bees nest they never intended to open. I don't see the pay model coming back any time soon, at least not for Skyrim. 

[riverbanks]

I can't help but think that part of this is because there's no advisor approval, tho. He can't disapprove of you officially, even if he gets grumbling at the War Table sometimes. :/

 

That does makes sense on non-romance content. On romance content, I specifically mean flippant lines like "oh I never worry about you" being answered with "yeah uh-huh ok I'll pretend I believe that" - he doesn't take any of your sass to heart, as far as your relationship goes. For non-romance content... I feel like even if he doesn't track approval, he does have a negative voice and will use it if he doesn't like what you're saying or doing. That's how I got into a couple arguments with him. And if you look at that war table quest with the head on a pike thing, for instance, he's clearly pisssed off with the Inquisitor for that whole ordeal and not even trying to hide it. He can show aggravation with the IQ, just not consistently because, as you said, no tracking.

 

The problem with advisors tracking approval would be that... once you hit rock bottom disapproval, why would this person even stay working for you, when you're the opposite of everything they believe in? So we'd need a game mechanic of replacements for the advisors. In an ideal world, where we can get the perfect game, I actually love the theory that you can take your Inquisition down a path your advisors disagree so heartily with that they'll actually step down, and you'll have to replace them. It's coherent writing, at least. Leliana, in example, agrees with none of my IQ's decisions, and I often feel like the only reason she hasn't quit the Inquisition yet in my game is because the gameplay won't allow it - if there was an option for advisors to disapprove until they leave, shed'd likely have stepped down already, and I'd have replaced her with someone more callous/less full of personal investment in these decisions at this point. (someone like Zevran? please? lol sad pipe dream of actually having Zevran back) Alas, the game we got has no alternative characters for these roles, so the point of advisors tracking approval when they can't really act on it is kinda moot, I think.

 

As an exercise... who could replace Cullen as Commander, if he left? I can't really think of any character at the top of my head that has military training and displays leadership skills other than Aveline, and I don't think she's really that different from Cullen to be an alternative to him. Everything that pisses him off would likely just annoy her too. Maybe... Cauthrien? Garevel? I'd like to think Michel could be an interesting replacement, but he hasn't really shown any leadership skills... yet. Heck, maybe even Samson, for the whole Wolf of Skyhold alternate universe? Otherwise, I can't think of anyone else.

[MelissaGT]

I've seen people claim that Cullen is Alistair redux, which makes me scratch my head and go "did you actually play this?". His writing is top notch, and you're right, it is great things aren't always sweetness and light, but no outright "oh woe is me" angst.Of course we also know him better than any romance before, since we watched him grow through all three games.
 

 

I honestly don't see how anybody can claim that Cullen is Alistair redux...at least anybody that has actually played the games. To me, Cullen is very different from Alistair, the only similarity (beyond the rugged good looks) being the Templar background (then again, Alistair's Templar background is much more limited than Cullen's). 

[Sifr]

I honestly don't see how anybody can claim that Cullen is Alistair redux...at least anybody that has actually played the games. To me, Cullen is very different from Alistair, the only similarity (beyond the rugged good looks) being the Templar background (then again, Alistair's Templar background is much more limited than Cullen's). 

 

I'd say that another similarity between the two is that Cullen and Alistair are good men, but that doesn't mean they don't have a dark streak at times, often when they feel as if their sense of trust has been betrayed in some way.

 

Cullen went to a very dark place after his experiences during Uldred's rebellion and took him a long time to trust mages again, while his faith in the Templars was shattered due to his experiences in Kirkwall and witnessing Meredith's descent into madness. Likewise, we see him show utter hatred towards those he knew personally who went onto become Red Templars, such as Samson and Carroll, barely restraining his anger when speaking to Samson during his trial.

 

Alistair went to a similar dark place whenever Loghain was brought up, having expressed admiration for him before Ostagar and believing that he was their best chance to win victory, only to have that faith betrayed when Loghain quit the field and left the Wardens to die. If you recruit Loghain, he not only refuses to fight alongside you and leaves the Wardens for good, but the subsequent conversation with him is probably the most outraged that Alistair ever sounds in the entire game... which leads me to suspect that if the Warden survived, it took a long time to repair that friendship.

 

Other than that, their childhoods and motivations for joining the Templars are vastly different.

 

Cullen grew up in a loving family with close relationships with his siblings, whereas Alistair grew up as a ward of his (sort of) Uncle and with absolutely no relationship to speak of with Cailan or Goldanna (even if she's not really his sister). Cullen joined the Templars of his own accord after having been desperate to join, while Alistair was forced into it after Isolde had Eamon send him to the Chantry against his will.

 

Saying that Cullen is Alistair redux is like saying Sebastian is Nathaniel redux... there are similarities in both their appearances, weapons of choice and backgrounds, but underneath, both characters come from very different places.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Soooo, :deep breath: here it is. The modern AU Cullen story that hatched a bunch of pages back after Feylen created this beauty:


http://feylen.tumblr...t-me-on-patreon

Don't Stand So Close To Me
by R2sMuse


Description: Modern college AU where hot new assistant professor Cullen Rutherford's mentorship of rising star Solona Amell is complicated by his growing attraction to her and the resulting political fallout. (Yes, inspired by the song of the same name)

A/N: Inspired by feylen's amazing modern Cullen fanart, the song "Don't Stand So Close to Me" (just so you know, beware!), and the awesome BSN Cullen thread. The story resulted from imagining seeing that dude in the picture every day at your (academic) workplace. This 'hot for teacher' idea took hold of me and wouldn't stop 'til I'd written it. Special thanks to Feylen for permission, and to meanieweenie and curiousartemis for reviewing it for me (but the blame is all mine!).

Tags: NSFW, cullen x f!amell, modern AU, college AU, angst, sexual tension, Cullen Rutherford, Solona Amell, Anders, student-teacher taboo, wet bus stop, she's waiting, this car is warm and dry, did I mention student-teacher taboo?

I loved it!

It had me snorting and laughing in all the right places as well as made me feel a tiny bit anxious.

Although I love the teacher/student taboo, I was kind of relieved that he didn't do the dirty with little ole Solona.

Very well done!

*whispers*

And I'm in full support of a follow up piece.

Hint, hint. Nudge, nudge.

[Vanalia]

I've heard about that "head on a pike" quest, but how can I have it? I didn't get it yet.

I think that Cullen has some temper and that's good, he can disagree with the Inquisitor from time to time, it sounds more realistic. I love it when he disagrees on a mission and I send him on purpose on it XD "listen Cullen, I'm the boss so you'll go if I tell you to" haha. Anyway he'll get a kiss afterwards

Cerulione: didn't try the Thorin follower yet so I don't know for his voice...

[Caddius]

I've heard about that "head on a pike" quest, but how can I have it? I didn't get it yet.

I think that Cullen has some temper and that's good, he can disagree with the Inquisitor from time to time, it sounds more realistic. I love it when he disagrees on a mission and I send him on purpose on it XD "listen Cullen, I'm the boss so you'll go if I tell you to" haha. Anyway he'll get a kiss afterwards

Cerulione: didn't try the Thorin follower yet so I don't know for his voice...

Spoilers for Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts.

Spoiler

Kill Duchess Florianne during Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts. Then comes the judgement. I think you have to choose the, "Public penance" option, or whatever it's called. The hilarious one.

Then that unlocks the war-table mission.

[R2s Muse]

That does makes sense on non-romance content. On romance content, I specifically mean flippant lines like "oh I never worry about you" being answered with "yeah uh-huh ok I'll pretend I believe that" - he doesn't take any of your sass to heart, as far as your relationship goes. For non-romance content... I feel like even if he doesn't track approval, he does have a negative voice and will use it if he doesn't like what you're saying or doing. That's how I got into a couple arguments with him. And if you look at that war table quest with the head on a pike thing, for instance, he's clearly pisssed off with the Inquisitor for that whole ordeal and not even trying to hide it. He can show aggravation with the IQ, just not consistently because, as you said, no tracking.

 

The problem with advisors tracking approval would be that... once you hit rock bottom disapproval, why would this person even stay working for you, when you're the opposite of everything they believe in? So we'd need a game mechanic of replacements for the advisors. In an ideal world, where we can get the perfect game, I actually love the theory that you can take your Inquisition down a path your advisors disagree so heartily with that they'll actually step down, and you'll have to replace them. It's coherent writing, at least. Leliana, in example, agrees with none of my IQ's decisions, and I often feel like the only reason she hasn't quit the Inquisition yet in my game is because the gameplay won't allow it - if there was an option for advisors to disapprove until they leave, shed'd likely have stepped down already, and I'd have replaced her with someone more callous/less full of personal investment in these decisions at this point. (someone like Zevran? please? lol sad pipe dream of actually having Zevran back) Alas, the game we got has no alternative characters for these roles, so the point of advisors tracking approval when they can't really act on it is kinda moot, I think.

 

As an exercise... who could replace Cullen as Commander, if he left? I can't really think of any character at the top of my head that has military training and displays leadership skills other than Aveline, and I don't think she's really that different from Cullen to be an alternative to him. Everything that pisses him off would likely just annoy her too. Maybe... Cauthrien? Garevel? I'd like to think Michel could be an interesting replacement, but he hasn't really shown any leadership skills... yet. Heck, maybe even Samson, for the whole Wolf of Skyhold alternate universe? Otherwise, I can't think of anyone else.

Yeah, there's no realistic way for advisors to have real approval, which is why I'm ever so grateful that BW still let us romance some of them despite the fact that it makes them "sure things." I know I've waxed long before about the lack of actual romance urgency in his story, that there are no stakes to it since it always works out, but I agree that we're also lucky that BW didn't write him as a "whatever you want, dear" number eleven. I like that professionally he will still be gruff and disagree with you as an advisor (like when he was angry with me after the templar quest *gulp*). It allows for potentially delicious make up sex discussions afterward in our own private headcanons, even if part of that disconnect is probably just a hold over from him being a last minute LI.

 

And, who would replace him if he left? My first thought was Michel, altho, you're right, we don't know of any real leadership experience. Um, Rylen? Aveline would be awesome. Gaspard would be . . . controversial. LOL Loghain?? Nathaniel? (:pterodactyl screeches:) 

[R2s Muse]

I loved it!

It had me snorting and laughing in all the right places as well as made me feel a tiny bit anxious.

Although I love the teacher/student taboo, I was kind of relieved that he didn't do the dirty with little ole Solona.

Very well done!

*whispers*

And I'm in full support of a follow up piece.

Hint, hint. Nudge, nudge.

LOL Thanks! That's great to hear. I struggled with the right balance of taboo breaking and what I think he would actually do, being a rule follower fundamentally IMO. And, I've been thinking of what might happen next. So we'll see! 

[R2s Muse]

I really am going to go to bed now, but one last image that has been driving me nuts. Been watching West Wing again and in the second season Martin Sheen, standing in the National Cathedral cursing out God (in Latin, no less) made me think of what Cullen would say to the Maker in a similar circumstance.

Hmm... that sounds like a plot bunny if ever I heard one. . . 

 

... little bunny fanfic, hoppin' through the forest, scoopin' up the writers, and boppin' em on the head...   

[Vanalia]

Spoilers for Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts.

 

Then that unlocks the war-table mission.

Hmm strange because I didn't see that comment of Cullen. I ordered her to work with farmers, haha. Maybe that's why I didn't get that comment?

 

 

One question: the messenger banter with Cullen starts only just after I teleport to Skyhold and if I go directly to his office? I wonder how to get them, I got only one or two, I wonder if there's a trick to have them.

[riverbanks]

Hmm strange because I didn't see that comment of Cullen. I ordered her to work with farmers, haha. Maybe that's why I didn't get that comment?

 

That option only shows up if you kill Florianne at the ball, then "judge" her remains at the throne. It's funny, but I find it fourth-wall breaking, because it's so out of character for Cullen. I don't see him actually putting his soldiers to parade a head on a spike just for laughs, not even under the Inquisitor's orders. Specially after the incident in DA2 where Meredith had the corpses of mages and Templars involved in the Best Served Cold conspiracy hung from the battlements at the Gallows as a warning, the whole notion of using Florianne's remains to threaten/intimidate people into submission sounds like something that Cullen would aggressively oppose, and even refuse to do.

 

In any case, you get some great options if she survives, too. Making her work with the farmers or making her join the Chantry as a Sister both give you a funny reply from her, making her your court jester is hilarious (she walks around Skyhold in Harlequin motley complaining about having to wear ugly shoes for the rest of her life), and there's my favorite option, recruiting her as a spy. This last one gives you a war table mission where it looks like she's gonna betray you again, but if you play up her bluff, she stays loyal and gives you one of the biggest war table rewards.

[Tishina]

Yeah, there's no realistic way for advisors to have real approval, which is why I'm ever so grateful that BW still let us romance some of them despite the fact that it makes them "sure things." I know I've waxed long before about the lack of actual romance urgency in his story, that there are no stakes to it since it always works out, but I agree that we're also lucky that BW didn't write him as a "whatever you want, dear" number eleven. I like that professionally he will still be gruff and disagree with you as an advisor (like when he was angry with me after the templar quest *gulp*). It allows for potentially delicious make up sex discussions afterward in our own private headcanons, even if part of that disconnect is probably just a hold over from him being a last minute LI.

 

And, who would replace him if he left? My first thought was Michel, altho, you're right, we don't know of any real leadership experience. Um, Rylen? Aveline would be awesome. Gaspard would be . . . controversial. LOL Loghain?? Nathaniel? (:pterodactyl screeches:) 

Aveline would definitely be awesome, as would Rylen. And you mentioned Nathaniel, sigh. I'm wondering if they'll ever tell us where he was during DAI because I refuse to believe he let them sacrifice him for a blood ritual. (OK, I like scruffy, gruff characters with a dry sense of humor...)

[R2s Muse]

Aveline would definitely be awesome, as would Rylen. And you mentioned Nathaniel, sigh. I'm wondering if they'll ever tell us where he was during DAI because I refuse to believe he let them sacrifice him for a blood ritual. (OK, I like scruffy, gruff characters with a dry sense of humor...)

oh man. They never did tell us what happened to Nate, did they?! Sob. I guess he's too often dead.

[R2s Muse]

That option only shows up if you kill Florianne at the ball, then "judge" her remains at the throne. It's funny, but I find it fourth-wall breaking, because it's so out of character for Cullen. I don't see him actually putting his soldiers to parade a head on a spike just for laughs, not even under the Inquisitor's orders. Specially after the incident in DA2 where Meredith had the corpses of mages and Templars involved in the Best Served Cold conspiracy hung from the battlements at the Gallows as a warning, the whole notion of using Florianne's remains to threaten/intimidate people into submission sounds like something that Cullen would aggressively oppose, and even refuse to do.

Agree. It's funny but OOC for him. I would have expected the notion of doing anything political with her remains would've met with a "No. This is ridiculous." type of reaction, for the reasons you state.