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[Ariella]

R2,

One the Old Gods, I found a couple of bits of interest. First is this codex from Origins on Dragon Cults.

http://dragonage.wik...y:_Dragon_Cults

Second is the Claw of Dumat shire in the Fade in DAI. There's interesting text, though not codex for some reason. And it's similar to stuff we saw in Bartrand's Folly in 2.

Third is a nice conversation between a revered mother and Chantry sister in VR after Haven. It's interesting in that it's a discussion of what Corypheus is, if the old gods actually are etc. The best part is the Revered Mother saying its not their existance that's in question but their nature.

[Tarlonniel]

A Dalish mage doesn't get his little conversation about the Circle, do they? That's a shame; it's a very nice moment. I romanced Cullen as an elf once - I think she was a mage, it's hard to remember now - and was rather disappointed by the lack of ability to explore all the differences there. What is it he calls Marethari in II? The Dalish "queen" or something?   Ah, cultural ignorance... what fun it would've been to educate him (and I imagine my Solasmancer does, in-between showing his archers how it's really done).

[riverbanks]

Curiously, the wiki says Seb was born in 9:09, making him four year younger than Hawke. There's no citation, though, and I couldn't find anything at all about his age in WoT2. So I actually have no idea where that might come from. I can't remember the details anymore of when we used to talk about it, except that DA2 only offers a few boundary conditions since he had been in Chantry for ten years or something at one point in DA2 and he got his bow from grandpa beforehand at age 13 or something.

 

The birth date on the wiki is false, and based on this wonky math that's become really popular on tumblr for some reason, that he was exactly 13 when he was sent to the Chantry, yeah. People extrapolate that from his roundabout wording in the conversation about his grandfather, but it makes no sense for him to be that young when he's commited - when you do place his infamous years of drinking and whoring, then? At eleven and twelve?

 

No, Sebastian had to be at the very very least 17-18 years old by the time he was sent to the Chantry (so he was partying in his 15/16s), and that's lowballing because ~medievals. So add the ten years in the Chantry on top of that, and it would make Sebastian at the very very least 27-28 by the first year of DA2, when Hawke is 25. When they first meet in Act 1, Hawke would be 26/27ish and Sebastian would be 29/30ish.

 

Taking from his descriptions of the Wild Years, though, he makes it sound like he was at it for several years before his parents got fed up with his attitude, so it's just as reasonable to think he was already around 20 by the time he was commited, which is where I get my personal interpretation that he's a little older. But personal tastes aside, Sebastian's got be anything between at least two to five years older than Hawke, because that's the lowest we can go before we're saying a 12 year old was whoring around the Starkhaven court.

[riverbanks]

I just never romanced Sebastian because my Hawke tends to be a flirt. And as I understand, you can't do that and then romance the boy.

 

As R2 said, this isn't necessarily true. You can do some early flirting as you wish, just not go beyond the conditions that set up the romances (namely the Questioning Beliefs flirt, for any love interest, that sets the romance flag).

 

Also, if you're playing on PC, you can pretty much just do whatever you want, and then clear out all the pending romance flags with the console menu before locking your romance with Sebastian. My canon Hawke slept with all of Anders, Isabela and Fenris in Act 2, and still married Sebastian in Act 3. All it takes is a single console command to nuke your ghost romances and Sebastian's becomes available again.

[Tishina]

A Dalish mage doesn't get his little conversation about the Circle, do they? That's a shame; it's a very nice moment. I romanced Cullen as an elf once - I think she was a mage, it's hard to remember now - and was rather disappointed by the lack of ability to explore all the differences there. What is it he calls Marethari in II? The Dalish "queen" or something?   Ah, cultural ignorance... what fun it would've been to educate him (and I imagine my Solasmancer does, in-between showing his archers how it's really done).

I didn't get that conversation, at least not that I can recall right now. Yes, the cultural gap concerns me somewhat since they really only give you one moment to explore it at all, and extremely superficially at that. That omission on the cultural differences bothered me so much it turned into a 40,000+ word fanfic

[Tishina]

As R2 said, this isn't necessarily true. You can do some early flirting as you wish, just not go beyond the conditions that set up the romances (namely the Questioning Beliefs flirt, for any love interest, that sets the romance flag).

 

Also, if you're playing on PC, you can pretty much just do whatever you want, and then clear out all the pending romance flags with the console menu before locking your romance with Sebastian. My canon Hawke slept with all of Anders, Isabela and Fenris in Act 2, and still married Sebastian in Act 3. All it takes is a single console command to nuke your ghost romances and Sebastian's becomes available again.

Makes perfect sense in a PT to me - after all, Sebastian has his own past, why would he raise an eyebrow at yours (as long as you're committed now?)

[Rascoth]

The birth date on the wiki is false, and based on this wonky math that's become really popular on tumblr for some reason, that he was exactly 13 when he was sent to the Chantry, yeah. People extrapolate that from his roundabout wording in the conversation about his grandfather, but it makes no sense for him to be that young when he's commited - when you do place his infamous years of drinking and whoring, then? At eleven and twelve?

 

No, Sebastian had to be at the very very least 17-18 years old by the time he was sent to the Chantry (so he was partying in his 15/16s), and that's lowballing because ~medievals. So add the ten years in the Chantry on top of that, and it would make Sebastian at the very very least 27-28 by the first year of DA2, when Hawke is 25. When they first meet in Act 1, Hawke would be 26/27ish and Sebastian would be 29/30ish.

 

Taking from his descriptions of the Wild Years, though, he makes it sound like he was at it for several years before his parents got fed up with his attitude, so it's just as reasonable to think he was already around 20 by the time he was commited, which is where I get my personal interpretation that he's a little older. But personal tastes aside, Sebastian's got be anything between at least two to five years older than Hawke, because that's the lowest we can go before we're saying a 12 year old was whoring around the Starkhaven court.

Now image of drunk 12 years old Sebastian is stuck in my head 

 

But to be serious. I always thought he was older than Hawke, without reading any outside information. As you said, those years with the Chantry, his glorious drunkard years (btw I love Isabela's comment about that). It would be strange if he was younger than Hawke.

[R2s Muse]

The birth date on the wiki is false, and based on this wonky math that's become really popular on tumblr for some reason, that he was exactly 13 when he was sent to the Chantry, yeah. People extrapolate that from his roundabout wording in the conversation about his grandfather, but it makes no sense for him to be that young when he's commited - when you do place his infamous years of drinking and whoring, then? At eleven and twelve?

 

No, Sebastian had to be at the very very least 17-18 years old by the time he was sent to the Chantry (so he was partying in his 15/16s), and that's lowballing because ~medievals. So add the ten years in the Chantry on top of that, and it would make Sebastian at the very very least 27-28 by the first year of DA2, when Hawke is 25. When they first meet in Act 1, Hawke would be 26/27ish and Sebastian would be 29/30ish.

 

Taking from his descriptions of the Wild Years, though, he makes it sound like he was at it for several years before his parents got fed up with his attitude, so it's just as reasonable to think he was already around 20 by the time he was commited, which is where I get my personal interpretation that he's a little older. But personal tastes aside, Sebastian's got be anything between at least two to five years older than Hawke, because that's the lowest we can go before we're saying a 12 year old was whoring around the Starkhaven court.

OK, thanks for the confirmation that there's no confirmation. Sounds like I need to delete that from the wiki then as well. 

 

I'm still not seeing how the math works out for 9:09, tho. Say 13yo Seb is committed to the chantry, after a Wild Period of exactly 1 day after reaching puberty. When does he say the 10 years? I want to say it's in Act 2, right? An Elthina conversation? So that means age 23 in 9:34, so YOB 9:11. If he says it in Act 1, he's 23 in 9:31, so YOB 9:08. Neither is 9:09.  So, what the heck?

[R2s Muse]

Makes perfect sense in a PT to me - after all, Sebastian has his own past, why would he raise an eyebrow at yours (as long as you're committed now?)

Especially given the fact that you sound like an all around tarty floozy with any of the flirt options you have with him, so he just has to take you as you are.

[Tishina]

Especially given the fact that you sound like an all around tarty floozy with any of the flirt options you have with him, so he just has to take you as you are.

Thanks for the heads up in case I do try to play through it . I'll make sure to create a Hawke with an Isabela-like attitude of "my body, no one owns me" who gets blindsided by the way Seb treats her mabari (because there has to be a mabari involved to be a truly good romance )

[R2s Muse]

Thanks for the heads up in case I do try to play through it . I'll make sure to create a Hawke with an Isabela-like attitude of "my body, no one owns me" who gets blindsided by the way Seb treats her mabari (because there has to be a mabari involved to be a truly good romance )

Yeah, I usually try to imagine that my Hawke was saying these things with tongue firmly in cheek trying to tease him more than titillate him, because... boy. Hawke is just facepalm-worthy in some of these scenes. And that's saying something! LOL And watch out: one of Seb's best best reactions to a flirt is from one of the worst!

[Tishina]

Yeah, I usually try to imagine that my Hawke was saying these things with tongue firmly in cheek trying to tease him more than titillate him, because... boy. Hawke is just facepalm-worthy in some of these scenes. And that's saying something! LOL And watch out: one of Seb's best best reactions to a flirt is from one of the worst!

I'll make sure to mine the options then! But yes, I've heard her writing was a bit heavy handed for anyone who likes a bit more subtlety.

[riverbanks]

I'll make sure to mine the options then! But yes, I've heard her writing was a bit heavy handed for anyone who likes a bit more subtlety.

 

The funniest/saddest part of Sebastian's flirts is that the text for them is actually pretty good - it's what Hawke says that's awful. My favorite one is where the text says "I'm glad you're staying," which sounds like an earnest and heartfelt romance line, but then Hawke says, in the sultriest most unnecessarily full of ooh-la-la innuendo voice, "Staaarkhaven's loooss~ "

 

Like ????

 

So since the lusty flirty personality of those lines doesn't fit my Hawke at all (even though she slept around the squad a lot, she's not candid or confident enough in herself wrt to romantic feelings and relationships to be cheeky like that), I generally just pretend that what my Hawke said was either the more subdued/earnest text line, or something else I completely made up for that conversation. La la la, those awful harrassy flirts never happened~

[Vanalia]

I don't think that the DA2 romance model is the best (but that's me), having all characters bisexual is totaly against roleplay to me. It's not credible at all, it's just the easy way to try to please everyone, but in real life everyone is not bisexual, so that sounds really odd to have everyone romance-able by everyone (in Mass effect it was really weird to have Kaidan heterosexual in the 1st and bisexual in the 3rd... just to please some fans...)

 

I like it when the characters are really written this way (Leliana, Zevran, Iron Bull...) because it's their story, their tastes... for the others it would just feel odd, acting with a girl the exact same way they would act with a man, with no special background linked to it.

 

So I'm glad Cullen in gated the way he is. Like I'm glad that Dorian is only a romance option for male characters, or Sera for female characters, because it makes them special. They're not meat in a shop that anyone can choose. They have their own tastes and are written this way. Why should Bioware apologize for making characters heterosexual? is it a crime to be heterosexual? it's totally normal to have some of them in the team.

 

And frankly, I think it already looks quite ridiculous to see Blackwall hug a giant female Qunari or a dwarf girl half his size, so I can't imagine Cullen try to take a giant Qunari on his desk or do a back hug to a dwarf that would make him bow to the ground in order to do so. (haha, trying to imagine the back-hug to a female Qunari, she would be so big we wouldn't even see him behind.)

 

That's also why in DAO I romanced Zevran as an elf, because I felt that my human was way too big for him, so I can't imagine a Qunari, it would just look weird.

 

I definitly don't want to see Cullen acting the same way with a big muscled giant Qunari man than with a human lady...

 

I liked the way the romances in DAO were handled: some were heterosexual, some were bisexual, less choices but romances were well-written. But I think that Cullen's romance is very well written, I won't complain about it, I love Alistair's romance as much as Cullen's.

[Owlfruit Potion]

A Dalish mage doesn't get his little conversation about the Circle, do they? That's a shame; it's a very nice moment.

Yeah, as lame as some the lines the mage Inquisitor can say to Cullen are, they are optional, and furthermore most/all of his unique lines to her are either wonderfully sweet (e.g. the response to one of the insecure hand-wringing lines: heartfelt concern that he's said or done something to give her that idea) or otherwise charming (e.g. trying to start a conversation about the Circle as Tarlonniel mentioned above and realizing too late that it might be a touchy topic not ideally suited for small talk).

 

The main change I would have liked would have been the ability to talk a little bit with him about whether he's considered what it would mean for her specifically if the Circle system returned--but since he favors a Circle where mages can earn freedom on an individual basis in order to become, for example, a doctor or soldier (or, presumably, Inquisitor), even that's not necessary. (EDIT: i.e. it's still something I'd want to talk out extensively with him if DA:I had come out for the Holodeck instead of PC/PS3/PS4/XB360/XB1, but not such a relationship deal-breaker that I'm furious it isn't in the real-life, limited-word-budget game.) And, as someone mentioned earlier, it would have been nice if instead of one of the "are you OK with loving a mage?" lines, there had been one "are you OK with loving a Templar?" line from him. But I'd never in a million years want it cut just because the optional unique lines skewed towards a particular way to play your character that I don't identify with.

[Tishina]

I don't think that the DA2 romance model is the best (but that's me), having all characters bisexual is totaly against roleplay to me. It's not credible at all, it's just the easy way to try to please everyone, but in real life everyone is not bisexual, so that sounds really odd to have everyone romance-able by everyone (in Mass effect it was really weird to have Kaidan heterosexual in the 1st and bisexual in the 3rd... just to please some fans...)

 

I like it when the characters are really written this way (Leliana, Zevran, Iron Bull...) because it's their story, their tastes... for the others it would just feel odd, acting with a girl the exact same way they would act with a man, with no special background linked to it.

 

So I'm glad Cullen in gated the way he is. Like I'm glad that Dorian is only a romance option for male characters, or Sera for female characters, because it makes them special. They're not meat in a shop that anyone can choose. They have their own tastes and are written this way. Why should Bioware apologize for making characters heterosexual? is it a crime to be heterosexual? it's totally normal to have some of them in the team.

 

And frankly, I think it already looks quite ridiculous to see Blackwall hug a giant female Qunari or a dwarf girl half his size, so I can't imagine Cullen try to take a giant Qunari on his desk or do a back hug to a dwarf that would make him bow to the ground in order to do so. (haha, trying to imagine the back-hug to a female Qunari, she would be so big we wouldn't even see him behind.)

 

That's also why in DAO I romanced Zevran as an elf, because I felt that my human was way too big for him, so I can't imagine a Qunari, it would just look weird.

 

I definitly don't want to see Cullen acting the same way with a big muscled giant Qunari man than with a human lady...

 

I liked the way the romances in DAO were handled: some were heterosexual, some were bisexual, less choices but romances were well-written. But I think that Cullen's romance is very well written, I won't complain about it, I love Alistair's romance as much as Cullen's.

Please don't go here. It is a very sensitive and controversial topic, and these opinions are always stated by people who got what they wanted.

[riverbanks]

Please don't go here. It is a very sensitive and controversial topic, and these opinions are always stated by people who got what they wanted.

 

Exactly. Let's not go further into the conversation of romance gating (as it generally tends to derail into people who got exactly what they wanted chastising those who didn't, as if they don't have reason enough to be upset) and specially of character sexualities (as it's really hard to stay civil and nice when people are basically saying your sexuality is too "forced," or getting too much representation, or taking away the right of heterosexuals to be represented too). Let's just... not do this thing.

 

One thing that really does need to be said, though:

 

And frankly, I think it already looks quite ridiculous to see Blackwall hug a giant female Qunari or a dwarf girl half his size

 

Please be careful with this kind of body-shaming language. There are very tall and built women and very short and bulky women in the world, who see themselves represented in these fantasy races, and it's pretty rude to say their characters look "ridiculous" next to a shorter/taller partner, when that's probably how they look with their own partner in real life too. Not everybody is lanky like Trevelyan or skinny like Lavellan, not everyone is born with the perfect height for romance clichés, but still no one deserves to be told they don't look "right" for such a handsome partner as Cullen or Blackwall, or that they'd look "ridiculous" next to someone like them.

 

Just please think a little harder about what exactly you're saying with this, even if you didn't mean it that way in your head, and how you words can really affect people on the other side of the screen on a very negative personal level.

[Vanalia]

I won't continue this conversation then, but I almost never got what I wanted in Mass Effect or SWTOR, for example, so, no, I didn't always got what I wanted. 

 

I don't think it's a bad thing to say that having a bit of everything in the team is more realistic/more roleplay. But of course people who didn't get what they wanted would complain, and I can understand their frustration as well. It's a bit reality vs trying-to-please-everyone, it's hard to find the balance for the developpers.

 

EDIT:

- riverbanks: sorry if it my words were taken this way, it was not what I meant. I wasn't talking about people who are tall/big/small (in real life), but I was more thinking "technically" in the game, trying to replace some races by others in some scenes, and it wouldn't fit (maybe that's why some characters are race-gated), because they couldn't technically make the arrangement to make it look right. Characters who were written for every race (Iron Bull, etc) have cutscenes made specifically for any kind of Inquisitor. I was just saying that some some Cullen scenes, the difference of high wouldn't work without bugs (the hugs scenes, etc). If the scenes were written differently it would work (the ball scene would work, but for example for the hug or desk scene, if you try to replace (with a mod for example) the IQ with a Qunari or dwarf, it wouldn't technically work and would look awkward, pixels collision, etc, the scene would need to be reprogrammed in order to make Cullen bow/look up/hug differently to make it work visually). and for Blackwall some scenes I've seen seemed a bit technically odd depending on the scene (not looking right in the eyes of the IQ depending of the height, etc), so it's more technical than anything, really, the couples who have a height difference in real life don't seem strange to me at all, because it's real, it looks natural, while video games can still have technical issues with that.

 

 

I didn't want to make anyone angry or target anyone. English is not my native language and I wish I could find the right words to express my mind without sounding too rude/awkward.

[Vanalia]

So, change of subject, as a token of peace, an adorable Cullen plushie made by UltraPancake 

Her page:

http://www.deviantar...n-Age-528703842

[Ariella]

Going back to Cullen's bevy of female influences... Flemeth has been playing the poor boy indirectly for a while.

1) Her little prophecy to Maric said in front of Loghain, about Loghain betraying him again and again if Maric kept him close. Which sets up Uldred and the Tower.

2) Saving the Warden

3) Saving Hawke

All of which dropped him into his current situation. This was more a nudge, I think... Almost.

[MaethorialBelle]

So guys, if this next dlc (that's apparently going to be announced within a few weeks) is the last one, chances are there'll be some romance content, at least I think so. Would you rather have the scenes take place at skyhold and then head out to fight, or have Cullen in the field so you have the battle couple thing going on? I'd prefer a mix, but I'm guessing that's asking for too much.

 

I'm not really sure what else they could add that I'd like to see, maybe some non mage/templar/elf specific stuff as a bonus (only because us Trevelyan rogue/warriors got nothing unique, where's the whole "So you hate nobles commander? Well I'm rather fond of being one so where do we go from here?" dialogue). I know people felt the lyrium thing got settled too quick and easily, but I'd rather leave it how it is, personally, than have them rip away Cullen's happy ending (because I don't trust them to not take the angsty route for the lyrium situation.)

[Rascoth]

So guys, if this next dlc (that's apparently going to be announced within a few weeks) is the last one, chances are there'll be some romance content, at least I think so. Would you rather have the scenes take place at skyhold and then head out to fight, or have Cullen in the field so you have the battle couple thing going on? I'd prefer a mix, but I'm guessing that's asking for too much.

 

I'm not really sure what else they could add that I'd like to see, maybe some non mage/templar/elf specific stuff as a bonus (only because us Trevelyan rogue/warriors got nothing unique, where's the whole "So you hate nobles commander? Well I'm rather fond of being one so where do we go from here?" dialogue). I know people felt the lyrium thing got settled too quick and easily, but I'd rather leave it how it is, personally, than have them rip away Cullen's happy ending (because I don't trust them to not take the angsty route for the lyrium situation.)

You mean the one that everyone hopes will be annouced during PAX? If we really are getting DLC annoucement, I really hope it'll not be the last one. 

 

I wouldn't mind something like Arbor Wilds, where even advisors were in a field. First time I played it I thought "Hey, I really have capable people as my advisors!". I was playing with templars as allies, so I didn't know Cullen can join you during Before the Dawn.

Though I really hope they'll not touch Cullen and lyrium topic. I don't want them to spoil his happy ending. Nor do I want them to spoils anyone else's happy ending. Solasmancers are not included, since there was no happy ending for them. Sorry everyone, that's the truth. There's nothing they could spoil... Wait, I take it back. There's always something to spoil.

 

Either way. I got bored and started making gifs. Mostly of my Quizzies, but there was also time for Cullen.

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[R2s Muse]

So guys, if this next dlc (that's apparently going to be announced within a few weeks) is the last one, chances are there'll be some romance content, at least I think so. Would you rather have the scenes take place at skyhold and then head out to fight, or have Cullen in the field so you have the battle couple thing going on? I'd prefer a mix, but I'm guessing that's asking for too much.

 

I'm not really sure what else they could add that I'd like to see, maybe some non mage/templar/elf specific stuff as a bonus (only because us Trevelyan rogue/warriors got nothing unique, where's the whole "So you hate nobles commander? Well I'm rather fond of being one so where do we go from here?" dialogue). I know people felt the lyrium thing got settled too quick and easily, but I'd rather leave it how it is, personally, than have them rip away Cullen's happy ending (because I don't trust them to not take the angsty route for the lyrium situation.)

I reckon that if they add romance content it will be specifically romance and not Cullen suddenly fighting at your side, for the very practical reason that if they add more romance, they'll probably do roughly the same thing for everyone and most of the other LIs are already a choice for your party. 

 

Of course, it would be fun to have a shag out on the front lines somewhere in your tent. For something different. 

[riverbanks]

So guys, if this next dlc (that's apparently going to be announced within a few weeks) is the last one, chances are there'll be some romance content, at least I think so. Would you rather have the scenes take place at skyhold and then head out to fight, or have Cullen in the field so you have the battle couple thing going on? I'd prefer a mix, but I'm guessing that's asking for too much.

 

I'm not really sure what else they could add that I'd like to see, maybe some non mage/templar/elf specific stuff as a bonus (only because us Trevelyan rogue/warriors got nothing unique, where's the whole "So you hate nobles commander? Well I'm rather fond of being one so where do we go from here?" dialogue). I know people felt the lyrium thing got settled too quick and easily, but I'd rather leave it how it is, personally, than have them rip away Cullen's happy ending (because I don't trust them to not take the angsty route for the lyrium situation.)

 

At this point, I'm lowballing expectations and just hoping we'll get to at least hear Cullen speak again, at least once. Even a cutscene at the War Table, giving instructions for your next mission would be nice. But I also understand that if the next DLC is heavily story-based, there will be a limitation to how much word count can be "wasted" on non-essential dialogue such as romance, so...

 

If we were to really pipe dream, though, what I'd hope for in terms of romance content would be something like the CItadel content. My romance then was Kaidan and his scenes in that DLC were soooo good - there was this whole different look into their intimacy that you never saw while you were on official business in the ship, this domestic familiarity of just cooking dinner and waking up together that you couldn't imagine they shared. So I'd like something like that with Cullen too. By the end of the game I guess it's too late to have all those important conversations we should have had at the beginning of the relationship, so I don't even hope for any of that. At this point I think I'd rather just see Cullen and Quizzy being intimate and familiar like that, just showing affection in a way that's not another passionate declaration of love, but just the day by day of the relationship, another conversation in the master quasters, maybe having dinner together, maybe just spending some time together... something that shows the more comfy and less glamorous side of the relationship like that.

 

I really have no fears for Cullen wrt to lyrium or unhappy endings, though. Cullen is a secondary character, only marginally important to the story in the grand scheme of things, and they certainly don't have the time/resources to, or probably even any interest in faffing about with his storyline anymore. Romanced Cullen got his character arc conclusion, his happy ending and his ride off into the sunset, and I think that's as far as they'll bother to go with him.

[R2s Muse]

At this point, I'm lowballing expectations and just hoping we'll get to at least hear Cullen speak again, at least once. Even a cutscene at the War Table, giving instructions for your next mission would be nice. But I also understand that if the next DLC is heavily story-based, there will be a limitation to how much word count can be "wasted" on non-essential dialogue such as romance, so...

 

If we were to really pipe dream, though, what I'd hope for in terms of romance content would be something like the CItadel content. My romance then was Kaidan and his scenes in that DLC were soooo good - there was this whole different look into their intimacy that you never saw while you were on official business in the ship, this domestic familiarity of just cooking dinner and waking up together that you couldn't imagine they shared. So I'd like something like that with Cullen too. By the end of the game I guess it's too late to have all those important conversations we should have had at the beginning of the relationship, so I don't even hope for any of that. At this point I think I'd rather just see Cullen and Quizzy being intimate and familiar like that, just showing affection in a way that's not another passionate declaration of love, but just the day by day of the relationship, another conversation in the master quasters, maybe having dinner together, maybe just spending some time together... something that shows the more comfy and less glamorous side of the relationship like that.

 

I really have no fears for Cullen wrt to lyrium or unhappy endings, though. Cullen is a secondary character, only marginally important to the story in the grand scheme of things, and they certainly don't have the time/resources to, or probably even any interest in faffing about with his storyline anymore. Romanced Cullen got his character arc conclusion, his happy ending and his ride off into the sunset, and I think that's as far as they'll bother to go with him.

Absolutely agree. No way they'd spend enough words for enough story that would change the trajectory of his happy ending. It's only a question of whether there's romance content, or even Cullen content, at all. I haven't seen a peep from Greg, but Leliana's involvement is a good sign.