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Although~ Cullen not knowing Varric too well doesn't necessarily mean he didn't know Hawke well either. You can be in a circle of friends with someone and not be too familiar with their other various circles of friends.

Like, in my own game, I never took Varric to the Gallows - he was on Hawke's "drinking buddies" circle that I mostly just took out to hunt bandits, not the "law & order" team that I took out to solve political crisis. So under this scenario, all Cullen would know of Varric is that he's some dwarf friend of Hawke's, and all Varric would know of Cullen is that he's some Templar that Hawke runs into a lot. Because of that, I didn't even register anything strange when Cullen said he didn't know Varric too well - it made sense to me because they never really met or talked in my game, they just periphally knew of each other's existence through Hawke's reputation.

Anyway, point being, it's still possible to mantain a headcanon that Hawke and Cullen were not just distant acquaintances in Kirkwall but actually friends (or, y'know, more, if you want); even with Cullen and Varric barely knowing each other. You just have to maneuver your game towards that. :P I consider Cullen, Hawke, Sebastian and Aveline its own separate circle of good friends in my canon, and Varric just doesn't retell much, if anything, of that in the Tale of the Champion because he was never around to see it. (also helps me handwave why there's so little development for Sebastian and Aveline in DA2, and why Cullen characterization is a bit everywhere between games - Varric didn't know Aveline or Cullen too well, and he never liked Sebastian to begin with, so he just skimmed over and rushed through those parts of Hawke's story that he didn't care much for :rolleyes: )

LOL I think that was sort of everyone's point, though. That obviously Cullen and Hawke did know each other. It's just weird that it's never mentioned for anyone besides Varric.

Personally I always headcanon that Cullen didn't know any of the other companions very well except maybe Aveline.
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LOL I think that was sort of everyone's point, though. That obviously Cullen and Hawke did know each other. It's just weird that it's never mentioned for anyone besides Varric.

Personally I always headcanon that Cullen didn't know any of the other companions very well except maybe Aveline.

 

Yeah, those acknowledgements are probably in the same behind-the-curtains universe where the scene where Cassandra nearly has a heart attack after finally meeting Hawke is hiding~ heck, the same universe where Cassandra talking to Hawke at all after an entire game dedicated to her hunting them, is hiding. The poor abandoned drawer of discarded writing must be bursting with these little scenes that Should Have Happened.

 

My version of the story for Cullen and Sebastian's friendship is that Cullen and Fenris were the only guests to attend Seb and my Hawke's wedding ceremony, Cullen mostly for her sake since he barely knew Sebastian, and Sebastian was so grateful for Cullen being there for Hawke that he started talking to him more often and more personally and eventually they became friends of sorts. It's a reach, but I mostly just love the idea that the two of them have their lives so wrapped around their duties to the Chantry at that point that they "get" each other without much elaboration, and at least have a friend who understands this weird place they're at in life but outside of their immediate situation; that Cullen finds in Sebastian someone he can vent to outside of the Gallows, even if in that vague indirect way you do when you and a friend are fully aware of an issue but don't need to go super into detail about it over the Saturday night dinner table, and Sebastian too outside of the clergy.

 

Makes for fun nights of potluck and Wicked Grace at Hawke's estate, at least, with Aveline and Donnic, Sebastian and Hawke, and Cullen and Fenris as that awkward spare pair of unmarried friends who roll their eyes and go get more chips and wine when the couples start getting too mushy around them. :P


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Some eye candy:

 

There's a lot of fancy fanart with adult content in this link: http://greendelle.tu...m/tagged/cullen

 

Enjoy.


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That's why Cullen felt so familiar on Inquisition.

 

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I just became blind.



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So has the betting pool started on how much screen time Cullen will be getting in whatever this is they're announcing at PAX?

And because my brain does weird things when I mix late night, lack of sleep, and DAI... Somehow Cullen and my Inky were dancing to Walk the Moon. Doesn't fit the animation, I know, but they lyrics for Shut Up and Dance kinda fit the situation.

I then proceeded to try and fit pop music for every LI. I only got so far as Sera (P!nk, Raise Your Glass), and Solas (Sarah Mclachlan, Building a Mystery).

Note, this is lacking about fifteen hours of sleep and at about 2 am. :)

And because I'm biased Cullen gets a second song: Tonight and the Rest of My Life.

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@Kukuru: oh, I'm discovering the "adult" ones... yes, right, posting a link for these ones is better  :P

 

 

Did anyone try to go to the IQ bedroom in the last scene (the victory reception scene in the hall) without talking to Cullen first? he comes with a different line than if you talk to him before, that's sweet. Something like "I had hoped I could have some time with you before dawn", aaaww cute.  :wub:

 

EDIT: I have a question: I came back to the Dragon age keep context I did load and use for my DA:I playthrough, but I see that my choices made in DA:I were not updated. It shows "masked" for almost all of them and I don't see any of the choices I made in my game, why?



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EDIT: I have a question: I came back to the Dragon age keep context I did load and use for my DA:I playthrough, but I see that my choices made in DA:I were not updated. It shows "masked" for almost all of them and I don't see any of the choices I made in my game, why?

 

did you make sure that uploading game data was checked in the game options/settings?

did you go through all the sections to see if all were hidden, or if some tiles were shown. To narrow down where the game stopped uploading data?

made sure you were connected to the internet while playing, and having game data upload option checked?

consoles sometimes take longer on the time interval for uploading game data so you may need to leave it sit connected to the internet for 20-30minutes to make sure the data upload goes through if you are on console.

have made sure that your game is connected to your DAKeep profile

 

The 'world state' in da keep will not automatically change to your current playthrough's tiles, you need to do that manually. They simply 'nulock' or are no longer hidden in the choices.



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EDIT: I have a question: I came back to the Dragon age keep context I did load and use for my DA:I playthrough, but I see that my choices made in DA:I were not updated. It shows "masked" for almost all of them and I don't see any of the choices I made in my game, why?

The easiest way is to load your "current playthrough" into the Keep and so long as you've been logged in and saved at some point, your DA:I progress will be in that playthrough. 



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The easiest way is to load your "current playthrough" into the Keep and so long as you've been logged in and saved at some point, your DA:I progress will be in that playthrough.


Didn't they add a way to unmask the tiles? I can't remember where it is at the moment, unfortunately.

@re Hawke's companions. He knew Aveline certainly, and he'd have known of if not known Anders, depending how long he'd been at Kinloch Hold, though how Cullen feels about a female mage Warden would indicate he'd been there for awhile.

This brings something up. Alistair mentions the monastery is where he received his training, but Kirkwall trains right at the Circle. I suppose it could be the fact that Kirkwall Circle is just that much bigger and can support a training facility.

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Didn't they add a way to unmask the tiles? I can't remember where it is at the moment, unfortunately.

@re Hawke's companions. He knew Aveline certainly, and he'd have known of if not known Anders, depending how long he'd been at Kinloch Hold, though how Cullen feels about a female mage Warden would indicate he'd been there for awhile.

This brings something up. Alistair mentions the monastery is where he received his training, but Kirkwall trains right at the Circle. I suppose it could be the fact that Kirkwall Circle is just that much bigger and can support a training facility.

 

 

I don't think Kinloch has any room to train templars - island and all. I would imagine that, yes, space has something to do with it. I thought DA:O suggested most templar training happened in Denerim near the grand cathedral there.

 

and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Cullen and Anders were at Kinloch at the same times, right? Anders barely met the HoF - which he mentions in Awakening. He was always out on the run/in solitary. I got the impression Cullen was there during one of Anders' 'walkabouts'



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and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Cullen and Anders were at Kinloch at the same times, right? Anders barely met the HoF - which he mentions in Awakening. He was always out on the run/in solitary. I got the impression Cullen was there during one of Anders' 'walkabouts'

They do have a conversation about Uldred, I think post quest Cullen' s introduced in.

His last escape, iirc, was right before the Blight, and taken back after according to Gaider. He's also been at the Circle since age 12 or so. I admit I'm more leaning to they saw each other in the halls (when Anders was out at any rate) and Cullen would have known of Anders by reputation, with a record number of escape attempts.

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That may also because Kinloch was in Ferelden which is huge geographically compared to Kirkwall which is a city state. In Kirkwall, the vast majority of Templars would have served right in Kirkwall itself and even those serving at the cathedral may have actually had their quarters in the Gallows. In Ferelden, some Templars would have been scattered to every chantry in the country, so the Templars at Kinloch Hold might actually have been only a fraction of the total.


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So has the betting pool started on how much screen time Cullen will be getting in whatever this is they're announcing at PAX?
 

 

I'm optimistic he'll be getting a decent amount. The voice actor for Leliana has been recording lines so I assume there will be adviser involvement this time (crossing my fingers they'll even temporarily be part of your team!). Cullen is popular so if there's one last epic DLC to be had, he'll be in it. I'm naively hoping for scenes that rival citadel in terms of romance content though, I've been spoiled by that DLC I'll admit that :lol: I just want more Cullen, the waiting has been agony!

 



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Didn't they add a way to unmask the tiles? I can't remember where it is at the moment, unfortunately.

@re Hawke's companions. He knew Aveline certainly, and he'd have known of if not known Anders, depending how long he'd been at Kinloch Hold, though how Cullen feels about a female mage Warden would indicate he'd been there for awhile.

This brings something up. Alistair mentions the monastery is where he received his training, but Kirkwall trains right at the Circle. I suppose it could be the fact that Kirkwall Circle is just that much bigger and can support a training facility.

Oh Cullen also knows Anders from Kirkwall as well, or at least knows OF him. He can comment in Act 3 that the templars are looking for him, and I think Cullen can even interject directly back at Anders during a visit to the Gallows in Act 2. As for overlapping at Kinloch, Cullen was only assigned there for a year before the Blight, presumably after also training elsewhere like Alistair, so that's not a very big window to overlap with Anders. As a templar, he might have a slightly higher chance than the Warden of crossing paths with such a delinquent.



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Yes I ticked the box in my options to connect with my Dragon age keep (I could play in my playthrough with all the options I selected in my keep, so the link was made) and I selected the option to upload my game content into the keep, but it seems it didn't work.

 

Most of the tiles are locked and I cannot unlock them manually, some only are unlocked (In the abyss, Wicked hearts...) and with the basic choice selected (not the choice I made in my game)

 

I always played connected to internet so I don't understand why it's doing this... how can i unlock manually the DA:I keep to select manually the choices I made?



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Yes I ticked the box in my options to connect with my Dragon age keep (I could play in my playthrough with all the options I selected in my keep, so the link was made) and I selected the option to upload my game content into the keep, but it seems it didn't work.

 

Most of the tiles are locked and I cannot unlock them manually, some only are unlocked (In the abyss, Wicked hearts...) and with the basic choice selected (not the choice I made in my game)

 

I always played connected to internet so I don't understand why it's doing this... how can i unlock manually the DA:I keep to select manually the choices I made?

Thing is, to my knowledge it doesn't update the world state you uploaded to your game. Instead, you have to create a new worldstate inside the Keep based on your current playthrough. It then reads what you previously uploaded from DA:O and DA2, as well as your current progress in DA:I.

 

So, in the keep, go to World States, Playthrough States, and then upload your current playthrough to be an Editable State. Then upload that to the Keep. That's what worked for me last time I tried it.

 

edited to add: I also recall them talking about what Ariella mentioned, that there should be an option somewhere to turn off the spoiler protections to see all the tiles. I haven't tried that myself, but that doesn't upload/reveal your choices necessarily. 



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Yes I ticked the box in my options to connect with my Dragon age keep (I could play in my playthrough with all the options I selected in my keep, so the link was made) and I selected the option to upload my game content into the keep, but it seems it didn't work.

 

Most of the tiles are locked and I cannot unlock them manually, some only are unlocked (In the abyss, Wicked hearts...) and with the basic choice selected (not the choice I made in my game)

 

I always played connected to internet so I don't understand why it's doing this... how can i unlock manually the DA:I keep to select manually the choices I made?

I would turn off the spoilers. Really. DAI in the Keep is so buggy, that it hurts. Half of my choices were never registered and I always make sure to connect to the Keep. And I played a lot DAI, with different choices.

To turn spoilers off: when you go into your profile and click on settings, there's an option at the bottom to 'show' spoilers for Inquisition.



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Thanks, I unlocked the spoilers and now I make all the choices manually. I find how to "export" my world state but nowhere the option the "import" my save from DA:I to the Keep...

 

I really like Blackwall's portrait in the keep, nice.



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Thanks, I unlocked the spoilers and now I make all the choices manually. I find how to "export" my world state but nowhere the option the "import" my save from DA:I to the Keep...
 
I really like Blackwall's portrait in the keep, nice.


Supposedly, the game itself updates ever so often as the game progresses.

And I agree with Rascoth, the damn thing is stll buggy. Hopefully they'll iron things out once the game cycle is done and they're done adding new content.

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Thanks, I unlocked the spoilers and now I make all the choices manually. I find how to "export" my world state but nowhere the option the "import" my save from DA:I to the Keep...


Like I said, you don't import, but you have to make your current playthrough worldstate editable to load it into the Keep and see it. If you've been logged in when playing, your last saved game will be accessible to the Keep as "current playthrough".

Thing is, to my knowledge it doesn't update the world state you uploaded to your game. Instead, you have to create a new worldstate inside the Keep based on your current playthrough. It then reads what you previously uploaded from DA:O and DA2, as well as your current progress in DA:I.
 
So, in the keep, go to World States [upper left menu], Playthrough States, and then upload your current playthrough to be an Editable State. Then upload that to the Keep. That's what worked for me last time I tried it.

 

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Like I said, you don't import, but you have to make your current playthrough worldstate editable to load it into the Keep and see it. If you've been logged in when playing, your last saved game will be accessible to the Keep as "current playthrough".


I've actually avoided doing this, out of fear something might scramble, so I'm going to have to try it.

I'm making the assumption it'll update with all info since it is possible to play off line for periods.
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I was connected and it was supposed to update directly my Keep from my current playthrough, but it seems it didn't work. So I did it manually...

 

Does someone know what choices I should put in my DA:O Keep to have Loghain as a warden in DA:I ? because there is nothing like "kept Loghain alive", etc. There is only "warden/Alistair/Loghain sacrificed" and "Alistair on the throne" "Anora on the throne".... so I guess that if I choose "warden sacrificed herself" and "Alistair and Anora on the throne" it means that Loghain is alive and grey warden?



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I was connected and it was supposed to update directly my Keep from my current playthrough, but it seems it didn't work. So I did it manually...

 

Does someone know what choices I should put in my DA:O Keep to have Loghain as a warden in DA:I ? because there is nothing like "kept Loghain alive", etc. There is only "warden/Alistair/Loghain sacrificed" and "Alistair on the throne" "Anora on the throne".... so I guess that if I choose "warden sacrificed herself" and "Alistair and Anora on the throne" it means that Loghain is alive and grey warden?

There's a tile in companions part about Loghain's fate. You need to use the last one, which says he's alive. 



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I've actually avoided doing this, out of fear something might scramble, so I'm going to have to try it.

I'm making the assumption it'll update with all info since it is possible to play off line for periods.

I don't think there's any real danger. Your current play through in the Keep is whatever your most recent save was in DA:I while logged in. By making it "editable", it gets loaded into the tapestry as a brand new world state you can then name and save. Make a new save in game with a different character/worldstate, you get a new current playthrough you can then make editable for yet another new worldstate in the tapestry. (Of course it's still buggy, but it should show most of your DAI choices)
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I don't think there's any real danger. Your current play through in the Keep is whatever your most recent save was in DA:I while logged in. By making it "editable", it gets loaded into the tapestry as a brand new world state you can then name and save. Make a new save in game with a different character/worldstate, you get a new current playthrough you can then make editable for yet another new worldstate in the tapestry. (Of course it's still buggy, but it should show most of your DAI choices)


I'll admit my fear isn't all that rational. As much as I adore digital devices, and love video games, I've had some very weird things happen that make me wary. Stupidly of couse.
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