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[Hellion Rex]

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Did you at least get some nice scenes with Bull (sans marriage)? I was a bit sad about Dorian going distance with his LI. And I agree, the dlc was very Solas centred (I guess to set him up as future antagonist, but the lore in the crossroads, wow, just wow. Loved the place.

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He got a couple banter lines, but not much else. He got one or two good cutscenes and that's it. I don't begrudge people the cool stuff that they got with their LIs, but it's hard not to feel shortchanged by Weekes when you compare the content Solas people got versus the Bull content. Otherwise, I absolutely loved this DLC. 10/10. The lore reveals alone were beyond amazing.

 

[riverbanks]

LIttle ranty about how the romances worked out in the DLC

 

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Not gonna lie, I'm more than a little irritated on how much content some other romances got over Bull. Very bitter when I saw both Sera and Cullen got marriage whereas Bull didn't really get anything. And don't even get me started on the Solas thing. I seriously feel like Patrick Weekes funneled everything into Solas and left Bull entirely by the wayside.

 

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tbh I kind of agree that Weekes at this point seems to only really care about Solas, of the characters he wrote for this game. The content for Cole was meager scraps both in terms of quantity and quality, and the content for Bull, both in his relevance to the entire plot of this DLC and in his status as a love interest, was bordering on dismissive. The good path of the romance offers almost no difference to the friendship content (there's like... two extra dialogue branches and one ambient banter?), and the bad path is so punishing of the player as to be cruel. As I said on tumblr, Bullmancers actually managed to be treated here even worse than Jacob romancers were in ME3, and for no apparent reason other than that his writer seems to be bored of the character.

 

You have all my solidarity - this was a really disappointing DLC for Bullmancers, and you have every right to be disgruntled about it. For a romance that was so hyped up by the devs before released, the enthusiasm behind riding the Bull seems to have fizzled out pretty fast. :\

[Vanalia]

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Unromanced, kept on lyrium:

http://i.imgur.com/xHoDeoT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rlRLkfy.jpg

 

 

 

This one... That's the most horrible ending ever for him o_o I'm chocked!

 

I finished the DLC.

 

 

 

And about Cullen, I tried all the options in the first scene, **SPOILERS**

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and my favorite was the marriage, I didn't think it was cheesy, I think it was totally like Cullen to say such things and that was really cute. It's nice to also have the option of "no marriage", you get just a hug but still, he accepts your choice and loves you anyway and you have the same sweet ending, with the dog, the home in the countryside, and eternal love 

 

I was dissapointed by Iron Bull, I don't romance him, but it's always the same problem with him, even in the main game he was barely talking to me (even with high approval). This time as well, he barely talked to me, just "hey boss, good to see you" stuff, and Krem did most of the talking.

 

Cassandra was so cute, talking about my marriage, I didn't really understand if she was trying to push me to marry or not?

 

Sera's little list had the "(Inquisitor) and Cullen are married! don't put anything on your desks!" or something, haha 

 

I admit that even if I found in DA:I Solas totally unattractive, in Trespasser he looked gorgeous. 

 

 

In my game I had news (through Varric) of Hawke, because I let Hawke survive in DA:I, I wonder what changes if Hawke died in "In the abyss"? does Varric talk about the survivor in Trespasser? (Stroud/Alistair/Loghain)? do we have news of them in that case? 

[Hellion Rex]

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tbh I kind of agree that Weekes at this point seems to only really care about Solas, of the characters he wrote for this game. The content for Cole was meager scraps both in terms of quantity and quality, and the content for Bull, both in his relevance to the entire plot of this DLC and in his status as a love interest, was bordering on dismissive. The good path of the romance offers almost no difference to the friendship content (there's like... two extra dialogue branches and one ambient banter?), and the bad path is so punishing of the player as to be cruel. As I said on tumblr, Bullmancers actually managed to be treated here even worse than Jacob romancers were in ME3, and for no apparent reason other than that his writer seems to be bored of the character.

 

You have all my solidarity - this was a really disappointing DLC for Bullmancers, and you have every right to be disgruntled about it. For a romance that was so hyped up by the devs before released, the enthusiasm behind riding the Bull seems to have fizzled out pretty fast. :\

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You voiced my thoughts exactly. I'm just a little sad right now about it. Kind of a downside to an otherwise fantastic DLC.

[skylark]

Yes, that was actually going to be my closing point but I... forgot to add it, oops. 

 

All that said, while I'm personally not too attached to my heroes, it is of course totally valid for people to feel attached to theirs and want more. I may be fine with letting go of my characters, but I do understand where people are coming from when they feel there's still some story that could be milked out of those characters. The issue is more that BioWare at some point has to make a choice of what to spend their zots in, and with this series they've made the choice to keep moving forward instead of looking back, so we have to at some point adapt to that or we'll always be feeling nostalgic for things we were never going to get.

 

But yes, differences! Variety of opinions is what keeps us going, or we'd never have anything to talk about. 

 

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I'm not sure where it came from but after finishing Trespasser I came to realize exactly how attached I was to both my IQ and her companions. I mean I knew I was but didn't realize how deep I'd gone. But I'm super happy and satisfied with how things turned out- in that I could close the book on them so to speak. However... ugh. Like I would be totally okay with leaving the IQ behind if it weren't for Solas. The idea that the IQ wouldn't be a part of solving the Solas crisis irks me. With all the **** she's been through, idk I can't see the IQ being able to put all that behind her and live a perfect peaceful happy life with Cullen. Like I think she'd feel partly responsible? Even if it's misplaced. Maybe the IQ can be an advisor of sorts with Dorian in the next one lol, and Cullen can be an npc backdrop that lingers in the IQ's vicinity.

[neonmoth]

Spoilers ahead. R2 do not look this way

 

 

 

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He got a couple banter lines, but not much else. He got one or two good cutscenes and that's it. I don't begrudge people the cool stuff that they got with their LIs, but it's hard not to feel shortchanged by Weekes when you compare the content Solas people got versus the Bull content. Otherwise, I absolutely loved this DLC. 10/10. The lore reveals alone were beyond amazing.

 

 

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Aww, I need to take my Bullmancer through the dlc but I was sad to see him turn on the Quizzy like there was no history between them. I guess it's Qun and so on but hey, a moment earlier was Kadan so some extra line would be great.

[neonmoth]

And more spoilers

 

 

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I'm not sure where it came from but after finishing Trespasser I came to realize exactly how attached I was to both my IQ and her companions. I mean I knew I was but didn't realize how deep I'd gone. But I'm super happy and satisfied with how things turned out- in that I could close the book on them so to speak. However... ugh. Like I would be totally okay with leaving the IQ behind if it weren't for Solas. The idea that the IQ wouldn't be a part of solving the Solas crisis irks me. With all the **** she's been through, idk I can't see the IQ being able to put all that behind her and live a perfect peaceful happy life with Cullen. Like I think she'd feel partly responsible? Even if it's misplaced. Maybe the IQ can be an advisor of sorts with Dorian in the next one lol, and Cullen can be an npc backdrop that lingers in the IQ's vicinity.

 

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I'm right there with you. For a long time I felt quite detached from my Quizzies' stories (even though I love the game) and probably quite tired after hundreds of hours spent hunting shards. But when I finished the dlc I was genuinely in tears. I love all of the followers to bits and felt a nice closure with every one of them. Even with Solas. That's why I have mixed feelings about continuing with Inquisitor. On one side they are in the centre of everything (more so if they care about Solas one way or another and would want to be there when his story resolves) but I really like the "new game, new character" set up, so I wouldn't want to loose the opportunity in the future. I am still chewing on this one.

[skylark]

Ok this just popped up on my dash and I need to share. I was questioning this earlier today and someone already asked Weekes.

 

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Pertaining to the anchor and what Solas did to it. http://olessan.tumbl...ication-on-what

[DaiyoukaiGeisha]

 Spoilers incoming...

 

This one... That's the most horrible ending ever for him o_o I'm chocked!

 

I finished the DLC.

 

 

 

And about Cullen, I tried all the options in the first scene, **SPOILERS**

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and my favorite was the marriage, I didn't think it was cheesy, I think it was totally like Cullen to say such things and that was really cute. It's nice to also have the option of "no marriage", you get just a hug but still, he accepts your choice and loves you anyway and you have the same sweet ending, with the dog, the home in the countryside, and eternal love 

 

I was dissapointed by Iron Bull, I don't romance him, but it's always the same problem with him, even in the main game he was barely talking to me (even with high approval). This time as well, he barely talked to me, just "hey boss, good to see you" stuff, and Krem did most of the talking.

 

Cassandra was so cute, talking about my marriage, I didn't really understand if she was trying to push me to marry or not?

 

Sera's little list had the "(Inquisitor) and Cullen are married! don't put anything on your desks!" or something, haha 

 

I admit that even if I found in DA:I Solas totally unattractive, in Trespasser he looked gorgeous. 

 

 

In my game I had news (through Varric) of Hawke, because I let Hawke survive in DA:I, I wonder what changes if Hawke died in "In the abyss"? does Varric talk about the survivor in Trespasser? (Stroud/Alistair/Loghain)? do we have news of them in that case? 

 

OMG...

 

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Ok, I totally missed this in Sera's little list of awesome (and I went by to read it a few times). Now I gotta play again, lol. I'm not a Solasmancer, but dang he did look mighty fine being a badass. *thumbs up*

[DaiyoukaiGeisha]

Spoilers incoming ZOMG...

 

Ok this just popped up on my dash and I need to share. I was questioning this earlier today and someone already asked Weekes.

 

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Pertaining to the anchor and what Solas did to it. http://olessan.tumbl...ication-on-what

 

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This is interesting and a question I also had. I assumed they cut it off after Solas helped you, but it's nice to see that confirmed. My Inquisitors weren't fazed by this loss though. I was like "Hell, I can have Dagna whip me up another arm! She'll probably even enchant it so that it shoots fireballs or sings the Chant of Light or something.

[riverbanks]

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I'm not sure where it came from but after finishing Trespasser I came to realize exactly how attached I was to both my IQ and her companions. I mean I knew I was but didn't realize how deep I'd gone. But I'm super happy and satisfied with how things turned out- in that I could close the book on them so to speak. However... ugh. Like I would be totally okay with leaving the IQ behind if it weren't for Solas. The idea that the IQ wouldn't be a part of solving the Solas crisis irks me. With all the **** she's been through, idk I can't see the IQ being able to put all that behind her and live a perfect peaceful happy life with Cullen. Like I think she'd feel partly responsible? Even if it's misplaced. Maybe the IQ can be an advisor of sorts with Dorian in the next one lol, and Cullen can be an npc backdrop that lingers in the IQ's vicinity.

 

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This definitely depends on how you roleplay your Inquisitor. My canon one went through a long emotional journey throughout the Inquisition years, and by the end of it she was just very tired of it all. She was exhausted, physhically and emotionally, and just wanted out. In the end I didn't disband the Inquisition because the Council demanded so, or because I wanted to play secret cabal against Solas, but because I felt Ariana was genuinely tired of being the savior of Thedas. She wanted the quaint, cheesy happy ending, she wanted to go live in the countryside and pet mabaris with her husband and do good work on real-life matters that affect them directly; she didn't want to fight archdemons and ancient magisters and vengeful elvhen gods anymore.

 

She never felt responsible for Solas either, so much as just used by him, which didn't help the feeling that she needed out of this mess before it destroyed her. Is it a dangerous kind of apathy to want to just let go of the threat of Solas and let someone else save the world this time? Sure is. But the two lines that most marked Ariana in my playthrough were Cullen saying "I've found certainty in my life now" and Solas saying "live well - while time remains." It was a warning, and after waking up with half an arm missing and realizing Solas could've simply just killed her right there and it would all have been in vain, Ari realized she wanted to heed it. The things that really mattered to her -her love and her friends- were right there, that was the certainty she found in her life, and she would rather just live while she still could.

 

Of course, then BioWare throws that post-credits scene with the little cabal and foils all my headcanons again.  But that's why I have such a hard time seeing my Inquisitor heading any significant force against Solas moving forward, leave alone actively hunting and personally fighting him - because she's done with all this. If she shows up again in DA4 in an advising capacity, or even just  a side NPC offering intel on her experiences with Solas etc to the real new hero of the week who's going to take him down, like Hawke did with Corypheus, I'll be more than satisfied.

 

I mean, I do recognize that many (most?) people will feel like their Inquisitors are personally responsible for Solas and should be the one to take him down. It's a valid feeling, one I thought I would have by the end of this DLC too, but it didn't quite work out like that, for some reason. I'm just explaining why mine doesn't want anything to do with that, which is why I have such a hard time picturing her as a returning protagonist. Unless Solas went full Disney villain and came down to the Fereldan bannorn to brutally murder Cullen in front of Ariana or something just to rile her up, she just doesn't have any fight left in her for him anymore. 

[neonmoth]

Spoiler vid linky under the cut!

 

I know it's not Cullen related but this bug made me laugh. Maybe you haven't seen it yet. 

 

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http://bluebudgie.tu...lled-solas-like

[riverbanks]

Spoilers ahead. R2 do not look this way

 

 

 

 

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Aww, I need to take my Bullmancer through the dlc but I was sad to see him turn on the Quizzy like there was no history between them. I guess it's Qun and so on but hey, a moment earlier was Kadan so some extra line would be great.

 

For the record, (Bull spoilers)

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the betrayal is totally avoidable. It sucks that Bullmancers who chose the qunari alliance for whatever roleplaying reasons they had now have to metagame their choices around trying to avoid the relationship having such an awful ending, but at least it is possible to avoid this and get a happy ending with Bull. That choice, at least, is more than Jacob or Thane romancers ever got.

[riverbanks]

Spoiler vid linky under the cut!

 

I know it's not Cullen related but this bug made me laugh. Maybe you haven't seen it yet. 

 

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http://bluebudgie.tu...lled-solas-like

 

.........???

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He dies with like ONE hit. If the Inquisitor had known all it took was lightly poking Solas with a butter knife once to end the world-ending threat, things could have gone much smoother!

[stop_him]

For the record, (Bull spoilers)

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the betrayal is totally avoidable. It sucks that Bullmancers who chose the qunari alliance for whatever roleplaying reasons they had now have to metagame their choices around trying to avoid the relationship having such an awful ending, but at least it is possible to avoid this and get a happy ending with Bull. That choice, at least, is more than Jacob or Thane romancers ever got.

Nah, no metagaming for me. Helga's gonna get a kiss then a knife in the back. 

I think I'm fine with it since

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my Lavellan got her marriage with Cullen AND Dalish vows! A nice touch for the elf inquisitor. So I can accept a tragic end for Helga's IB romance.

[riverbanks]

Nah, no metagaming for me.

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Helga's gonna get a kiss then a knife in the back. 

I think I'm fine with it since my Lavellan got her marriage with Cullen AND Dalish vows! A nice touch for the elf inquisitor. So I can accept a tragic end for Helga's IB romance.

 

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Heh, I have no room to speak of tragic romances. The whole reason why Alistair is my canon DAO romance (when Zevran is actually my favorite romance of that game) is because the aaaaaaaaangst train is unstoppable in the scenario where she chooses Loghain over him, then goes off and dies before they have a chance to make peace. Delicious aaaaaaaaaaaaaaangst! But at least that was my choice, you know? I could tell where I was going the whole time I was making those choices, the text didn't just dump a horrible ending on me with no other red flags.

 

I'm not sure I'll stick with the bad ending for my Bullmancer IQ or go back and fix it it, tbh. It will depend on whether I'm feeling like smiling or crying by the time I get to her playthrough. I already know I'm getting the "bad ending" for Blackwall's romance on the save I chose, so idk if I'll want more aaaangst after that. We'll see!

[R2s Muse]

Hey, thread mama! ...you probably won't see this but we've missed you around!

 

I hope you're done with this playthrough soon because I really wanna see your reaction to Audrey's run with Cullen.

Just stopping in briefly. Cullen's romance had better be hella happy. 

 

...spoilered because Solas 

 

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I am now headed back to my cave of sorrow. 

 

 

[skylark]

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This definitely depends on how you roleplay your Inquisitor. My canon one went through a long emotional journey throughout the Inquisition years, and by the end of it she was just very tired of it all. She was exhausted, physhically and emotionally, and just wanted out. In the end I didn't disband the Inquisition because the Council demanded so, or because I wanted to play secret cabal against Solas, but because I felt Ariana was genuinely tired of being the savior of Thedas. She wanted the quaint, cheesy happy ending, she wanted to go live in the countryside and pet mabaris with her husband and do good work on real-life matters that affect them directly; she didn't want to fight archdemons and ancient magisters and vengeful elvhen gods anymore.

 

She never felt responsible for Solas either, so much as just used by him, which didn't help the feeling that she needed out of this mess before it destroyed her. Is it a dangerous kind of apathy to want to just let go of the threat of Solas and let someone else save the world this time? Sure is. But the two lines that most marked Ariana in my playthrough were Cullen saying "I've found certainty in my life now" and Solas saying "live well - while time remains." It was a warning, and after waking up with half an arm missing and realizing Solas could've simply just killed her right there and it would all have been in vain, Ari realized she wanted to heed it. The things that really mattered to her -her love and her friends- were right there, that was the certainty she found in her life, and she would rather just live while she still could.

 

Of course, then BioWare throws that post-credits scene with the little cabal and foils all my headcanons again.  But that's why I have such a hard time seeing my Inquisitor heading any significant force against Solas moving forward, leave alone actively hunting and personally fighting him - because she's done with all this. If she shows up again in DA4 in an advising capacity, or even just  a side NPC offering intel on her experiences with Solas etc to the real new hero of the week who's going to take him down, like Hawke did with Corypheus, I'll be more than satisfied.

 

I mean, I do recognize that many (most?) people will feel like their Inquisitors are personally responsible for Solas and should be the one to take him down. It's a valid feeling, one I thought I would have by the end of this DLC too, but it didn't quite work out like that, for some reason. I'm just explaining why mine doesn't want anything to do with that, which is why I have such a hard time picturing her as a returning protagonist. Unless Solas went full Disney villain and came down to the Fereldan bannorn to brutally murder Cullen in front of Ariana or something just to rile her up, she just doesn't have any fight left in her for him anymore. 

 

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I....really like what you said here, truly, and it's actually helped me reconcile quite a few things. One of the personal issues I had while playing Inquisition is that I had a hard time headcanon-ing things. Like on tumblr I kept seeing everyone's Inquisitor and all their intricate backstories and whatnot. And usually I don't have a problem with that kind of thing, in fact I'm usually one of those people. But idk what my deal was this time, it was just like a massive character block. I had a few ideas for certain things that happened during missions and I had an idea for her general personality but otherwise I was just kind of winging it- often falling back on self-insert choices. And then strangely enough while in the middle of playing Trespasser it just kind of hit me and suddenly I knew exactly who my Inquisitor was, like an epiphany. Immediately after I finished Trespasser I couldn't wait to go back to Origins so I could rebuild a proper canon worldstate. (I haven't played Origins since it came out and I've never played DA2, soon to be rectified.) So you could say there are definite changes to be made.

 

My IQ was in a really bad way before the events of the game and the Inquisition helped her sort herself out to the point where-at the end she didn't need it anymore. I think her feelings seem much aligned with your IQ's and the reason this whole Solas business is still giving me a headache is because it's what I would do. I would go after him and see it through to the end before I allowed myself to rest easy. So now my problem is taking myself out of the equation. Ugh this would have been a whole lot easier had I thought of all this at the beginning. At least now it'll be like a completely new experience lol. Thanks again though. You've definitely lifted a huge burden off my back. I can finally fully embrace my IQ for who she is and give her back her agency.

[stop_him]

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Heh, I have no room to speak of tragic romances. The whole reason why Alistair is my canon DAO romance (when Zevran is actually my favorite romance of that game) is because the aaaaaaaaangst train is unstoppable in the scenario where she chooses Loghain over him, then goes off and dies before they have a chance to make peace. Delicious aaaaaaaaaaaaaaangst!

 

I'm not sure I'll stick with the bad ending for my Bullmancer IQ or go back and fix it it, tbh. It will depend on whether I'm feeling like smiling or crying by the time I get to her playthrough. I already know I'm getting the "bad ending" for Blackwall's romance on the save I chose, so idk if I'll want more aaaangst after that. We'll see!

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Are you talking about how Blackwall dies eventually if you send him the Wardens? The romanced IQ receives his badge in the mail, etc. I'm gonna get that ending for my Blackwall romance. So far only Cullen (Lavellan) and Josie (Adaar) romances are going to end well for me.

[skylark]

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Are you talking about how Blackwall dies eventually if you send him the Wardens? The romanced IQ receives his badge in the mail, etc. I'm gonna get that ending for my Blackwall romance. So far only Cullen (Lavellan) and Josie (Adaar) romances are going to end well for me.

 

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Is the only condition for that romancing him? Because I sent him to the Wardens (not romanced) and he was really happy to be there, his slides were happy too.

[Tishina]

Just stopping in briefly. Cullen's romance had better be hella happy. 

 

...spoilered because Solas 

 

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I am now headed back to my cave of sorrow. 

 

 

*hugs!*

 

I'm simply not commenting on the romances generally because I don't want to rain on those who are happy. I did get one thing I wanted, sort of, lol.

[riverbanks]

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Are you talking about how Blackwall dies eventually if you send him the Wardens? The romanced IQ receives his badge in the mail, etc. I'm gonna get that ending for my Blackwall romance. So far only Cullen (Lavellan) and Josie (Adaar) romances are going to end well for me.

 

Yeah, that's the one. (Blackwall spoilers)

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I really love the outcome of sending Rainier to the Wardens on the friendship path, I would have him no other way now. It was so good, hearing him so happy and fulfilled in the one thing he wanted to do right in his life.

 

But I realize now how doing that on a romance too was a foolish tactical mistake on my part. Even if doesn't actually die (I have some conflicting ideas about what that gift of his is supposed to mean), of course they wouldn't get a very happy ending when you're sending him to live the rest of his life with the Grey Wardens (for however long that lasts when he's fighting darkspawn for a living).

 

Sigh, I do have three different characters that romanced Blackwall to choose from, all with Rainier in different places at the end. The Inquisitor that freed him to atone and would get the optimal best ending is not my favorite of his lovers, but the temptation to not sour the positive energy this DLC gives me with a sad romance ending is very strong.

[riverbanks]

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I....really like what you said here, truly, and it's actually helped me reconcile quite a few things. One of the personal issues I had while playing Inquisition is that I had a hard time headcanon-ing things. Like on tumblr I kept seeing everyone's Inquisitor and all their intricate backstories and whatnot. And usually I don't have a problem with that kind of thing, in fact I'm usually one of those people. But idk what my deal was this time, it was just like a massive character block. I had a few ideas for certain things that happened during missions and I had an idea for her general personality but otherwise I was just kind of winging it- often falling back on self-insert choices. And then strangely enough while in the middle of playing Trespasser it just kind of hit me and suddenly I knew exactly who my Inquisitor was, like an epiphany. Immediately after I finished Trespasser I couldn't wait to go back to Origins so I could rebuild a proper canon worldstate. (I haven't played Origins since it came out and I've never played DA2, soon to be rectified.) So you could say there are definite changes to be made.

 

My IQ was in a really bad way before the events of the game and the Inquisition helped her sort herself out to the point where-at the end she didn't need it anymore. I think her feelings seem much aligned with your IQ's and the reason this whole Solas business is still giving me a headache is because it's what I would do. I would go after him and see it through to the end before I allowed myself to rest easy. So now my problem is taking myself out of the equation. Ugh this would have been a whole lot easier had I thought of all this at the beginning. At least now it'll be like a completely new experience lol. Thanks again though. You've definitely lifted a huge burden off my back. I can finally fully embrace my IQ for who she is and give her back her agency.

 

I love to hear that! I'm definitely one of those people who build characters with whole complex personalities and full background structures too (lol my Ari has a whole family tree outlined), and I love reading up on the characters that people build for themselves. I'm glad this helped you catch that spark to rebuild your character the way you envisioned her, and I want to see what you come up with for her extended backstory and personality!

[stop_him]

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Is the only condition for that romancing him? Because I sent him to the Wardens (not romanced) and he was really happy to be there, his slides were happy too.

I have no idea honestly.  I thought that was what happened to him if

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you romanced him and sent him the Wardens.

At least Bioware supposedly addressed the fact that

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the Warden can murder Leliana. Supposedly there is a slide for her that explains she was a spirit all along if you made that choice in DAO. I haven't seen it personally, just people claiming it's there.

[skylark]

I love to hear that! I'm definitely one of those people who build characters with whole complex personalities and full background structures too (lol my Ari has a whole family tree outlined), and I love reading up on the characters that people build for themselves. I'm glad this helped you catch that spark to rebuild your character the way you envisioned her, and I want to see what you come up with for her extended backstory and personality!

 

:3 Yea I should probably start writing things down lol.

 

I have no idea honestly.  I thought that was what happened to him if

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you romanced him and sent him the Wardens.

At least Bioware supposedly addressed the fact that

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the Warden can murder Leliana. Supposedly there is a slide for her that explains she was a spirit all along if you made that choice in DAO. I haven't seen it personally, just people claiming it's there.

 

Holy smokes.