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[stop_him]

Oh yeah, I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but Cullen

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is not necessarily the one to appear by the inquistor's side when she's looking at the map for where to search for Solas in the epilogue. It's apparently more likely to be whoever your love interest is. I saw one with Blackwall standing there. So, it looks like only Cass and Leliana are constants, and the ones likely to appear next game. I've just always seen Cullen there, so I assumed...

[Tishina]

I have no idea honestly.  I thought that was what happened to him if

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you romanced him and sent him the Wardens.

At least Bioware supposedly addressed the fact that

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the Warden can murder Leliana. Supposedly there is a slide for her that explains she was a spirit all along if you made that choice in DAO. I haven't seen it personally, just people claiming it's there.

Does anyone have screenshots of these supposed slides?

 

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I haven't seen any of those and it honestly sounds like the kind of rumors some people enjoy starting to see people overreact. I think people would be talking if there was a slide about Leliana being a spirit or if Blackwall dies (I haven't seen anything about that either - he survived the Joining in all the ones I've seen.) The only straight up tragic romance I know about is IB if you sacrificed the Chargers...

[neonmoth]

 

Oh yeah, I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but Cullen

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is not necessarily the one to appear by the inquistor's side when she's looking at the map for where to search for Solas in the epilogue. It's apparently more likely to be whoever your love interest is. I saw one with Blackwall standing there. So, it looks like only Cass and Leliana are constants, and the ones likely to appear next game. I've just always seen Cullen there, so I assumed...

 

 

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Ha, I didn't know that. I thought Scout Harding was always there I guess it's my lonely Solas' gal.

[neonmoth]

Just stopping in briefly. Cullen's romance had better be hella happy. 

 

...spoilered because Solas 

 

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I am now headed back to my cave of sorrow. 

 

 

 

here here, have a kitty hug 

 

 

I will join you in a minute, just have to resurface from my sea of tears...

[Tishina]

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Ha, I didn't know that. I thought Scout Harding was always there I guess it's my lonely Solas' gal.

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Weird, Harding's been in every video I've watched. Or Stop_him, did you just mean they were the only consistent ones of the advisors? Because I'm holding onto hope that Harding's presence means she might be in DA4 as a companion...

[Tarlonniel]

Just stopping in briefly. Cullen's romance had better be hella happy. 

 

It is. It very much is. Try to just forget about... everything... over there in Solas land... and enjoy the goodness that our beloved commander brings.

[riverbanks]

 

Oh yeah, I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but Cullen

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is not necessarily the one to appear by the inquistor's side when she's looking at the map for where to search for Solas in the epilogue. It's apparently more likely to be whoever your love interest is. I saw one with Blackwall standing there. So, it looks like only Cass and Leliana are constants, and the ones likely to appear next game. I've just always seen Cullen there, so I assumed...

 

 

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Ha, I didn't know that. I thought Scout Harding was always there I guess it's my lonely Solas' gal.

 

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Weird, Harding's been in every video I've watched. Or Stop_him, did you just mean they were the only consistent ones of the advisors? Because I'm holding onto hope that Harding's presence means she might be in DA4 as a companion...

 

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Whoever is your love interest is the one standing beside your Inquisitor in the ending teaser. A lot of videos have Harding because she's the fallback character if you don't have a love interest (dumped by Solas, betrayed by Bull, simply didn't romance anyone) or if you romanced Cassandra (Harding comes in to fill the fifth spot). But if your romance is still active by the end and is not Cass, you don't see Harding at all. Disregard, I'm dumb.

 

But yeah, Cullen is not a constant. This answers what someone asked Mike when the trailer came out, why Cullen wasn't in that scene on the trailer. At the time Mike only answered with "spoilers" but now we know, it's because he has to be romanced to show up there.

[skylark]

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Whoever is your love interest is the one standing beside your Inquisitor in the ending teaser. A lot of videos have Harding because she's the fallback character if you don't have a love interest (dumped by Solas, betrayed by Bull, simply didn't romance anyone) or if you romanced Cassandra (Harding comes in to fill the fifth spot). But if your romance is still active by the end and is not Cass, you don't see Harding at all.

 

But yeah, Cullen is not a constant. This answers what someone asked Mike when the trailer came out, why Cullen wasn't in that scene on the trailer. At the time Mike only answered with "spoilers" but now we know, it's because he has to be romanced to show up there.

 

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Uuuuuh, now I'm confused because I romanced Cullen [obvi] but Harding was also there on the other side of the table with Cass and Leli???? I have a pic to prove it too.

[riverbanks]

Does anyone have screenshots of these supposed slides?

 

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I haven't seen any of those and it honestly sounds like the kind of rumors some people enjoy starting to see people overreact. I think people would be talking if there was a slide about Leliana being a spirit or if Blackwall dies (I haven't seen anything about that either - he survived the Joining in all the ones I've seen.) The only straight up tragic romance I know about is IB if you sacrificed the Chargers...

 

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Agree with the Leliana thing, it seems like something certain regulars of the board commonly do, come up with mysterious codex entries and epilogue slides no one's ever seen to back up internet arguments, but never produce any proof. I'm not buying this until we see receipts.

 

But as for Blackwall, he does get at least one ending that may or may not imply his death. If you send him to the Wardens while romanced, he leaves to Weisshaupt at some point, then weeks, months, years go by without any communication from him, until one day the Inquisitor receives a gift with no signature or letter: it's a Warden-Constable's badge with a single white griffon feather. There's been some discussion in the Blackwall thread over the meanings this could possibly have, but the first instinct is to think this is the Wardens notifying the Inquisitor of Rainier's death. I don't entirely subscribe to this interpretation (I rather think this is Rainier trying to tell her something he can't write down), but either way it's a pretty sad ending for the IQ - she's left alone and incommunicado for years, and finally only gets a cryptical non-answer about what happened to her love, when in the atoned Rainier ending they spend the rest of their days together. Sheesh. 

[riverbanks]

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Uuuuuh, now I'm confused because I romanced Cullen [obvi] but Harding was also there on the other side of the table with Cass and Leli???? I have a pic to prove it too.

 

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Hmmm.... who was your Divine? And did you disband the Inquisition or not? My Divine was Cassandra, and we had disbanded, for reference, and Harding wasn't present in the teaser at all for me. It was just the head five - IQ, Cullen, Leliana, Josephine and Cassandra.

 

I'm trying to think of what else could influence this variant.... do you remember if your Inquisition was more geared to Forces/Intelligence/Diplomacy at the end of DAI?

 

EDIT: LMAO ACTUALLY SCRATCH THAT

 

 

Harding was there, it's Josie who's missing. I don't know how I completely missed Harding standing right there and remembered Josie being in the scene instead, but there she is. I was probably crying too much at this point to notice poor Harding, I know I missed half of what they said here because I was still reeling over all the epilogue slides.

 

But anyway I do know that the love interest is supposed to be in this meeting and Cullen can be replaced with them if he's not your LI, so stop_him's point remains that Cullen himself is not a constant in this scene.

[Sifr]

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Uuuuuh, now I'm confused because I romanced Cullen [obvi] but Harding was also there on the other side of the table with Cass and Leli???? I have a pic to prove it too.

 

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I got that in both my Solasmance and Cassmance, Harding was on the other side of the table with Leliana and Cassandra.

[Tishina]

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Hmmm.... who was your Divine? And did you disband the Inquisition or not? My Divine was Cassandra, and we had disbanded, for reference, and Harding wasn't present in the teaser at all for me. It was just the head five - IQ, Cullen, Leliana, Josephine and Cassandra.

 

I'm trying to think of what else could influence this variant.... do you remember if your Inquisition was more geared to Forces/Intelligence/Diplomacy at the end of DAI?

 

EDIT: LMAO ACTUALLY SCRATCH THAT

 

 

Harding was there, it's Josie who's missing. I don't know how I completely missed Harding standing right there and remembered Josie being in the scene instead, but there she is. I was probably crying too much at this point to notice poor Harding, I know I missed half of what they said here because I was still reeling over all the epilogue slides.

 

But anyway I do know that the love interest is supposed to be in this meeting and Cullen can be replaced with them if he's not your LI, so stop_him's point remains that Cullen himself is not a constant in this scene.

Whew! I thought my wishful thinking had me hallucinating and I was double checking youtube videos, lol.

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I won't even make any cheezy comments on the dwarves getting overlooked,

I think it's significant that it's the former right and left hands who are the persistent players, not the advisors (Josephine isn't there either unless she's romanced.)

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Agree with the Leliana thing, it seems like something certain regulars of the board commonly do, come up with mysterious codex entries and epilogue slides no one's ever seen to back up internet arguments, but never produce any proof. I'm not buying this until we see receipts.

 

But as for Blackwall, he does get at least one ending that may or may not imply his death. If you send him to the Wardens while romanced, he leaves to Weisshaupt at some point, then weeks, months, years go by without any communication from him, until one day the Inquisitor receives a gift with no signature or letter: it's a Warden-Constable's badge with a single white griffon feather. There's been some discussion in the Blackwall thread over the meanings this could possibly have, but the first instinct is to think this is the Wardens notifying the Inquisitor of Rainier's death. I don't entirely subscribe to this interpretation (I rather think this is Rainier trying to tell her something he can't write down), but either way it's a pretty sad ending for the IQ - she's left alone and incommunicado for years, and finally only gets a cryptical non-answer about what happened to her love, when in the atoned Rainier ending they spend the rest of their days together. Sheesh. 

Interesting, I hadn't seen that yet. There's a literary meaning to that, but I'm trying to make it make sense in that context and I don't think it does.

[CuriousArtemis]

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Agree with the Leliana thing, it seems like something certain regulars of the board commonly do, come up with mysterious codex entries and epilogue slides no one's ever seen to back up internet arguments, but never produce any proof. I'm not buying this until we see receipts.

 

But as for Blackwall, he does get at least one ending that may or may not imply his death. If you send him to the Wardens while romanced, he leaves to Weisshaupt at some point, then weeks, months, years go by without any communication from him, until one day the Inquisitor receives a gift with no signature or letter: it's a Warden-Constable's badge with a single white griffon feather. There's been some discussion in the Blackwall thread over the meanings this could possibly have, but the first instinct is to think this is the Wardens notifying the Inquisitor of Rainier's death. I don't entirely subscribe to this interpretation (I rather think this is Rainier trying to tell her something he can't write down), but either way it's a pretty sad ending for the IQ - she's left alone and incommunicado for years, and finally only gets a cryptical non-answer about what happened to her love, when in the atoned Rainier ending they spend the rest of their days together. Sheesh. 

 

Geez what is with all the sad frigging romance endings in this game?! I better get Ser Barris on a platter holding a marriage proposal come DA4.

[riverbanks]

Whew! I thought my wishful thinking had me hallucinating and I was double checking youtube videos, lol.

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I won't even make any cheezy comments on the dwarves getting overlooked,

I think it's significant that it's the former right and left hands who are the persistent players, not the advisors (Josephine isn't there either unless she's romanced.)

Interesting, I hadn't seen that yet. There's a literary meaning to that, but I'm trying to make it make sense in that context and I don't think it does.

 

Re. Harding

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Honestly it's not even that I overlooked Harding, I overlooked Josie. I saw a fifth person there and just assumed "oh it's Josie" and didn't even look at her because I was crying and trying to look at how hot Cullen looks in this scene and still making baby seal noises at my Quizzie missing her hand, all at the same time. Sorry Josie, sorry Harding. Mea culpa.

 

Re. Blackwall

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Actually scratch that too. I just checked the Blackwall thread to see if Sheryl had replied to the tweets they sent yesterday, and she and Weekes both confirmed that this slide definitely means Rainier died some several years into his Warden career, and the Wardens sent his few belongings back to the Inquisitor. Siiiiigh this is too sad an ending for this romance after all they go through. But at least this helps me decide, I'm sparing myself the self-flagelation and going through the DLC with my atoned Rainier romanced instead.

[riverbanks]

Geez what is with all the sad frigging romance endings in this game?! I better get Ser Barris on a platter holding a marriage proposal come DA4.

 

Yep yep yep yes please, all the yesses. Let us make this our new cause: The Case for Ser Barris in DA4.

[Tarlonniel]

Spoileroos.

 

Re. Blackwall

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Actually scratch that too. I just checked the Blackwall thread to see if Sheryl had replied to the tweets they sent yesterday, and she and Weekes both confirmed that this slide definitely means Rainier died some several years into his Warden career, and the Wardens sent his few belongings back to the Inquisitor.

 

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Yikes. Ouch. That's it, no going back to the Blackwall romance for me. I can't take any more sad endings. That white feather, though... it somehow makes me think of Cyrano De Bergerac and his white plume. Which is still sad, but in a much better way.

[Tishina]

Re. Harding

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Honestly it's not even that I overlooked Harding, I overlooked Josie. I saw a fifth person there and just assumed "oh it's Josie" and didn't even look at her because I was crying and trying to look at how hot Cullen looks in this scene and still making baby seal noises at my Quizzie missing her hand, all at the same time. Sorry Josie, sorry Harding. Mea culpa.

 

Re. Blackwall

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Actually scratch that too. I just checked the Blackwall thread to see if Sheryl had replied to the tweets they sent yesterday, and she and Weekes both confirmed that this slide definitely means Rainier died some several years into his Warden career, and the Wardens sent his few belongings back to the Inquisitor. Siiiiigh this is too sad an ending for this romance after all they go through. But at least this helps me decide, I'm sparing myself the self-flagelation and going through the DLC with my atoned Rainier romanced instead.

So...

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female dwarves wanting a male romance pretty much were s****d all the way through to the end in DAI, sigh? Honestly, I'm really happy for everyone who did get what they wanted, just frustrated.  Barris would be a fantastic companion and a hot romance, but please don't get upset when I say I'd trade Barris, Michel, and just about every good looking guy in here for just ONE romantic, happily-ever-after dwarven romance...

 

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[riverbanks]

So...

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female dwarves wanting a male romance pretty much were s****d all the way through to the end in DAI, sigh? Honestly, I'm really happy for everyone who did get what they wanted, just frustrated.  Barris would be a fantastic companion and a hot romance, but please don't get upset when I say I'd trade Barris, Michel, and just about every good looking guy in here for just ONE romantic, happily-ever-after dwarven romance...

 

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Well, you can get happy endings for both the Blackwall and Bull romances; the romanced ending slides for atoned Rainier and tal vashoth Bull are lovely. You can get completely shafted depending on your choices, but you can get a very good happily ever after endings too if you play your cards right. The only romance where you're shafted no matter what you do or say about it is the egg one, so the dwarfettes are not even catching the worst of it.

 

As for dwarven romances,

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trust me, I would love to have a male dwarf romance to thirst for as much as I thirst for the ~boring humans, but honestly... we all have a type we like to romance, right? And other than like, Gorim and Renn, I haven't met a male dwarf I like enough to wanna romance in Dragon Age yet. The writing for male dwarves is this series keeps playing to these... tired tropes I don't find too compelling. I keep Varric and Oghren at arm's length because they can't be avoided, but what I wouldn't give for the kind of knight-like character I like to romance in dwarf form. What I wouldn't give for my Aeducan to actually have been able to fully romance Gorim, instead of being awkwardly dumped in the streets of Denerim.

 

So yeah, I absolutely get the need for BW to get its act together and put some real effort into giving us some dwarven romances, but unfortunately until we get some better written male dwarves in the series (or at least not written to be the token sleazy dwarf drunk/thief of the party), I can only keep thirsting after boring humans. If Blackwall had been a dwarf, though? I would still love him to itty bitty little pieces. If Barris had been a dwarf? Like, exactly the same character except a dwarf? I would still be on his cheerleading squad, begging for a romance in DA4.

 

(Descent spoilers)

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AND RENN. If they hadn't gratuitously killed off Renn for pointless drama, I would be in the RENN FOR DA4 LI front, hardcore. He was great.

 

I want to romance a male dwarf at some point, just not the ones we currently have.

 

(The female dwarves we've had, though? Give me all of them. I would have romanced the socks off of Sigrun or Harding, given the chance.)

[riverbanks]

Spoileroos.

 

 

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Yikes. Ouch. That's it, no going back to the Blackwall romance for me. I can't take any more sad endings. That white feather, though... it somehow makes me think of Cyrano De Bergerac and his white plume. Which is still sad, but in a much better way.

 

(Blackwall stuff)

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Do you have any saves where you set Rainier free to atone, instead? He gets pretty different content in Trespasser, a very sweet cutscene mirroring and reversing the one where he first left you, and a fully happy ending with the Inquisitor. They get to be at least as happily ever after as Cullen and Inky, minus the dog.

 

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a dog would have been made it even better, though

[Tarlonniel]

Do you have any saves where you set Rainier free to atone, instead?

 

No, that's... let's just say it's not a path I'm willing to pursue. And since the Iron Bull romance isn't really for me either, looks like I'm stuck with Cullen forever and ever. But happily stuck.

[Tishina]

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Well, you can get happy endings for both the Blackwall and Bull romances; the romanced ending slides for atoned Rainier and tal vashoth Bull are lovely. You can get completely shafted depending on your choices, but you can get a very good happily ever after endings too if you play your cards right. The only romance where you're shafted no matter what you do or say about it is the egg one, so the dwarfettes are not even catching the worst of it.

 

As for dwarven romances,

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trust me, I would love to have a male dwarf romance to thirst for as much as I thirst for the ~boring humans, but honestly... we all have a type we like to romance, right? And other than like, Gorim and Renn, I haven't met a male dwarf I like enough to wanna romance in Dragon Age yet. The writing for male dwarves is this series keeps playing to these... tired tropes I don't find too compelling. I keep Varric and Oghren at arm's length because they can't be avoided, but what I wouldn't give for the kind of knight-like character I like to romance in dwarf form. What I wouldn't give for my Aeducan to actually have been able to fully romance Gorim, instead of being awkwardly dumped in the streets of Denerim.

 

So yeah, I absolutely get the need for BW to get its act together and put some real effort into giving us some dwarven romances, but unfortunately until we get some better written male dwarves in the series (or at least not written to be the token sleazy dwarf drunk/thief of the party), I can only keep thirsting after boring humans. If Blackwall had been a dwarf, though? I would still love him to itty bitty little pieces. If Barris had been a dwarf? Like, exactly the same character except a dwarf? I would still be on his cheerleading squad, begging for a romance in DA4.

 

(Descent spoilers)

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AND RENN. If they hadn't gratuitously killed off Renn for pointless drama, I would be in the RENN FOR DA4 LI front, hardcore. He was great.

 

I want to romance a male dwarf at some point, just not the ones we currently have.

 

(The female dwarves we've had, though? Give me all of them. I would have romanced the socks off of Sigrun or Harding, given the chance.)

Here, here!

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Problem is, my wallclimber already sentenced him to the Grey Wardens because that's what he wanted, and I think that's what most of the people I've talked to choose. I was having a really hard time going back to complete the PT, I'm sure not going back to replay 10 or 20 hours in the game to change the decision when I don't even really enjoy the romance cutscenes where I feel like my dwarves were shoehorned in as a rushed afterthought.

 

I feel the same way you do about Oghren and Varric. I hate the use of male dwarves for stock comedy relief. And we're in absolute agreement on the point I highlighted. I actually have absolutely no objection to romancing a human with a dwarven PC (I better not, considering I'm writing exactly that sort of romance, lol,) but the one really nice guy/guaranteed happy ending/MABARI romance isn't available. (The worst irony is that Blackwall is supposed to be the one who likes dogs, sigh.) If they give us a dwarf to romance, we might actually get something with cutscenes sized for dwarves. And let everyone else have to deal with the same kind of poorly done height adjustments and camera angles I've had to live with in DAI if they want to romance him/her with a non-dwarf .

 

Oh, man, Sigrun or Harding. I don't even like romancing women that much, but those two would be lovely. I just found out that apparently Vivienne will say something briefly in Trespasser if someone sticks out the pseudo-romance for Harding, but ironically, Zhenya's not exactly on warm terms with Vivienne, so I'll never see that scene. They could have used Trespasser to actually do something with that pseudo-romance, a cutscene with her that developed it. Geez, a kiss, even. Would have been a nice bone considering...

 

[Ananka]

Spoilers about the romances in Trespasser

 

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I don't feel very shafted at all with any of the romances I've tried in Trespasser- Blackwall, Solas and Cullen. I chose to make Blackwall atone and with that choice he will stick around and it seems like they'll be happy ever after (although I haven't reached the epilogue slides yet so I guess they could pull some evil crap there)

 

With Solas I wasn't really expecting a happy ever after either way. We alread knew he was up to some mysterious stuff where he probably didn't want company. Sure, it could have been like in Witch Hunt where you could follow him into the Eluvian, but it wasn't something I was counting on. I liked the conversation we got and I'm really looking forward to seeing more of his plot, I'm just sad I won't get to see it through the eyes of the inquisitor because of her connection with him.

 

With Cullen, I wasn't very big on the wedding but I very much liked the fact that he got a Mabari and that it seems like he and my Trevelyan and the dog will have a happy future together, so I'm perfectly happy there too.

 

I've watched the Sera romance on Youtube and it seemed pretty well done too. The only romance I've seen so far that I've been a little bit meh about was Iron Bull's. From what's on Youtube, there seems to be very little romantic content for him in Trespasser, I only found some dialogue about sex toys and clamps and whatnot. I kind of wish there'd been more emphasis on feelings rather than just sex with him. But maybe there's more if you give it a full playthrough in the DLC.

[Tarlonniel]

Spoilers!

 

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I just found out that apparently Vivienne will say something briefly in Trespasser if someone sticks out the pseudo-romance for Harding, but ironically, Zhenya's not exactly on warm terms with Vivienne, so I'll never see that scene.

 

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There actually was a little Harding content?  Ah, drat. Oh well - I hadn't recruited Vivienne on that playthrough anyway.

 

Here's hoping for a dwarven romance in DAIV. Hopefully something more along the Sigrun/Harding line than Oghren

[rpgfan321]

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At the end with Solas, I sooooo like the idea that our Inquisitors are now Solas' rival whether they decide to redeem him or kill him. It's like Inquisitor represents order all over again and Solas represents chaos (I bet Solas think otherwise - ah, the moral gray - which is why Dragon Age is so fun *nerding out*). This decision and this DLC makes my Inquisitor so personal and view her as such, more so than my Wardens although I still have a soft spot for Origins :3 

 

When I played Inquisition at launch, I viewed my Inquisitor more like an empty vessel to experience the story and other characters, but man this DLC just adds more delicious stuff to DA lore and the Inquisitor. I love it so much

 

Also helps that Cullen x Inquisitor is my OTP now. I still love you Alistair, but Cullen omg, I can't even..... XD

[rpgfan321]

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Well, you can get happy endings for both the Blackwall and Bull romances; the romanced ending slides for atoned Rainier and tal vashoth Bull are lovely. You can get completely shafted depending on your choices, but you can get a very good happily ever after endings too if you play your cards right. The only romance where you're shafted no matter what you do or say about it is the egg one, so the dwarfettes are not even catching the worst of it.

 

As for dwarven romances,

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trust me, I would love to have a male dwarf romance to thirst for as much as I thirst for the ~boring humans, but honestly... we all have a type we like to romance, right? And other than like, Gorim and Renn, I haven't met a male dwarf I like enough to wanna romance in Dragon Age yet. The writing for male dwarves is this series keeps playing to these... tired tropes I don't find too compelling. I keep Varric and Oghren at arm's length because they can't be avoided, but what I wouldn't give for the kind of knight-like character I like to romance in dwarf form. What I wouldn't give for my Aeducan to actually have been able to fully romance Gorim, instead of being awkwardly dumped in the streets of Denerim.

 

So yeah, I absolutely get the need for BW to get its act together and put some real effort into giving us some dwarven romances, but unfortunately until we get some better written male dwarves in the series (or at least not written to be the token sleazy dwarf drunk/thief of the party), I can only keep thirsting after boring humans. If Blackwall had been a dwarf, though? I would still love him to itty bitty little pieces. If Barris had been a dwarf? Like, exactly the same character except a dwarf? I would still be on his cheerleading squad, begging for a romance in DA4.

 

(Descent spoilers)

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AND RENN. If they hadn't gratuitously killed off Renn for pointless drama, I would be in the RENN FOR DA4 LI front, hardcore. He was great.

 

I want to romance a male dwarf at some point, just not the ones we currently have.

 

(The female dwarves we've had, though? Give me all of them. I would have romanced the socks off of Sigrun or Harding, given the chance.)

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When I played DA2 the first time through I was so smitten with Varric and was so sad that he was not romanceable! And after Scout Harding who wouldn't want more Dwarf romance options? XD Dwarves are a noble race with their own history and culture. It's time they get some spotlight in the next game!

 

And I was so sad what they did to Renn. That dwarf got to my heart even though it was only for one DLC!