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CuriousArtemis

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Yeah, if only they'd been able to finish the Cullen mod!!!! ;_; I waited for a loooong time but at this point I do not think it's going to happen. So far they've not been able to sync the male voice during the flirts and romance scenes, and in order for the mod to work you have to skip the first romance scene... AND you have to use two different mods, switching one off and the other on in order to progress the romance.

 

Just too hard for me and not enough pay off >.< Though all the modders who tried their hand at it are heroes!


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#135152
BevH

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Oh boy.  Not so subtlety threaten me with a report for making a valid comparison?  And how exactly is that against the rules?   Also, I love whenever people end a post with "have a nice day" they probably mean "kiss my ass" in reality.  Such passive aggressiveness. 

I believe all R2 is saying is please leave the trolling and flaming out of posts. This could lead to getting banned/suspended.



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Couple of quick Trespasser thoughts about Cullen!

 

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#135154
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Couple of quick Trespasser thoughts about Cullen!

 

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#135155
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That's sex. This is race we're talking about. Two separate things. So no, not troll logic.


What makes you think it's not about sex? Qunari and dwarves are not typical body types. What if Cullen isn't into really short or really tall women?

But let's say you prefer tall women. Does that make you prejudiced against short people? If I'm black and prefer black women, does that make me racist against whites? If you like thin men, does that make you sizeist? What about the reverse? What if you have a fetish?

What if you had a particular thing for women with missing limbs? That's a thing: it's called acrotomophilia. Is that racist, or are you being racist against everyone else?
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Also I meant to share this from earlier:

 

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NO GOOGLE THAT IS NOT WHAT I MEANT GDI  :mellow:  :angry:

 

:lol:


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Not here please. Just let it go and use the ignore function if need be.


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Alright, here you go: https://www.dropbox....1E87E3.DAS?dl=0

 

Lv 23 human archer, Cullen romanced, no DLCs played, ready to start Trespasser after a quick stop by the Black Emporium if you want to rebuild your Inky's face. Save is on patch 10, so you should have that.

 

(I re-saved inside the Undercroft so you can quickly mess around with armors/weapons if you want to, and synchronized schematics through the nug so you'll get everything I've found through multiple characters. I think it should be no issue that I had the DLCs installed, whatever DLC schematics would come through the nug should just disappear, but let me know if you can't open the save or something and I'll get the original vanilla file back from January, before I had any DLCs even installed in the game.)

 

Enjoy your noodle prince romance content! ^_^

 
Yeah, because I don't have the DLC installed I can't open up the file :(
If you could get the vanilla file like you said, thatd be great :)


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Not necessarily. You can continue to romance Cullen even when he starts taking lyrium again if you use a specific dialogue option in the cutscene that follows, telling him you'll look for safer ways to quit after Corypheus is defeated. He'll only break up with you if you use a very rude dialogue choice blaming him for his own addiction. Anyway, if you use the right approach the romance will progress normally, and at the end of the game you can tell that now that the threat is over you can both start looking into those safer methods of sobering up (rather than just quitting cold turkey, as he had done so far).

 

It's a valid choice. It's obviously not for everyone, but it's in the game and it's a valid way to play your romance, if that's how you want to. I wish people would stop being so judgemental and caring so much what others do in their own game (and specially wishing bad endings onto fellow player's games, as I've seen on tumblr), but what can you do.

 

You're right, though, in that whether you choose one path or the other during your romance, at the end of the game Cullen is still quitting the lyrium, one way or another. So there is no "on-lyrium" ending for a romanced Cullen, because he did quit it at some point, either in-game or later through other safer means, as you promised to look for together. You don't need to immediately agree with him quitting cold-turkey to continue the romance during the main campaign, but as long as you end the game with him romanced, by the time Trespasser rolls by he will have quit at some point anyway.

 

Thanks for fighting the good fight, Templar-sis! I'm so sick of defending my in-game choices.

 

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Tishina

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Ignore is a wonderful thing. Since it's been clearly stated that gating was due to time limitations, claiming anything else is just trying to create a s**tstorm.

 

Cullen is so full of love, sooo fuuuuull!!

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by http://garagriffon.t...ce-night-for-an

 

He just loves him dem horned ladies!

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by http://dr-cheesemake...unari-bosom-but

 

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by http://garagriffon.t...ge/115519347971

 

I mean he's just always open to new ideas and experiences; he's an open-minded guy!!

tumblr_nkx02o2Ayc1u5urw9o2_1280.jpghttp://youramatus.tu...len-romance-mod

Bwahahahaha! Thank you! Now we need some Cullen-Cadash art...


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MelissaGT

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What makes you think it's not about sex? Qunari and dwarves are not typical body types. What if Cullen isn't into really short or really tall women?

But let's say you prefer tall women. Does that make you prejudiced against short people? If I'm black and prefer black women, does that make me racist against whites? If you like thin men, does that make you sizeist? What about the reverse? What if you have a fetish?

What if you had a particular thing for women with missing limbs? That's a thing: it's called acrotomophilia. Is that racist, or are you being racist against everyone else?

 

^^This - in the end everybody has preferences when it comes to physical traits. That's just the way we're built. I'm not going to fault someone for not being attracted to me just because they might like blondes over brunettes, or small bewbs over big ones. 

 

But, Bioware has come out and said that the race-gating for Cullen was due to time constraints with the cut scenes. The human and elf animations use the same height, so those got in.



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Bwahahahaha! Thank you! Now we need some Cullen-Cadash art...

^ I second this!


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CuriousArtemis

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Ignore is a wonderful thing. Since it's been clearly stated that gating was due to time limitations, claiming anything else is just trying to create a s**tstorm.

 

Bwahahahaha! Thank you! Now we need some Cullen-Cadash art...

 

I looked; it is much harder to find! I have half an hour before end of work and I can thinking of nothing better to do with my time, so... xD


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#135165
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Not much out there; came across just one fanart by Aimo...

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Commissioned by http://mariamagica.t...ashing-cullen-3

 

But hey I also found this:

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Which I feel makes up for my previous failure.


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I looked; it is much harder to find! I have half an hour before end of work and I can thinking of nothing better to do with my time, so... xD

It is unfortunately rare. Actually female dwarf art generally is fairly rare, which makes me grateful for every artist willing to put the time into it. I can't even draw convincing stick figures, lol.

 

Not much out there; came across just one fanart by Aimo...

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Commissioned by http://mariamagica.t...ashing-cullen-3

 

But hey I also found this:

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Which I feel makes up for my previous failure.

Aimo! Should have known there'd be at least one there.



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Thanks for fighting the good fight, Templar-sis! I'm so sick of defending my in-game choices.

 

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If you look at fonts pics 2 pages back, top pic.



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Yeah, because I don't have the DLC installed I can't open up the file :(
If you could get the vanilla file like you said, thatd be great :)

 

 

Aw, I was afraid that wouldn't work.

 

Ok, here's the original file from January, this one shouldn't have any DLC linked to it: https://www.dropbox....1E87E3.DAS?dl=0

 

Again, let me know if it doesn't work! If all else fails, I still have the Nov 2014 post-game files from my very very first playthrough too, those shouldn't even have the first patch attached to them.



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I believe all R2 is saying is please leave the trolling and flaming out of posts. This could lead to getting banned/suspended.

You're operating under the assumption that I ever trolled or flamed in this thread in regards to the race gating discussion. 

 

Which I didn't.  At all.   God I wish people would stop using that word out of context. 



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What makes you think it's not about sex? Qunari and dwarves are not typical body types. What if Cullen isn't into really short or really tall women?

But let's say you prefer tall women. Does that make you prejudiced against short people? If I'm black and prefer black women, does that make me racist against whites? If you like thin men, does that make you sizeist? What about the reverse? What if you have a fetish?

What if you had a particular thing for women with missing limbs? That's a thing: it's called acrotomophilia. Is that racist, or are you being racist against everyone else?

There's a distinct difference between preference and outright refusal to date someone because of the color of their skin.  You keep using that word....prefer. 

 

Prefer denotes that while you may enjoy one thing over another most of the time, you are still open to the others.  Plainly rejecting someone based on the color of their skin (or in this case, whether they have horns on their head)  is succinctly racist.   Honestly, I don't get why people are getting their feathers so ruffled over this.  I just want to foster a good discussion over Cullen as a character.  What makes him tick.   Why do people keep thinking I am trolling when I am clearly not?  Have I insulted anyone personally by accusing Cullen of being racist?  Is it possible to be offended personally by claiming a fictional, pixelated video-game character is a racist?   Is anyone seriously that attached to the character Cullen? 

 

I'm seriously wondering.  Because that's the deduction I'm making here.  I don't see how any other possible reason why people are getting so upset over this. 



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You're operating under the assumption that I ever trolled or flamed in this thread in regards to the race gating discussion. 

 

Which I didn't.  At all.   God I wish people would stop using that word out of context. 

I could ask for official clarification on the matter if you like...



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I could ask for official clarification on the matter if you like...

What do you mean? 

 

Edit: Oh I see what you're implying.  You wish to tattle-tale on me?  Is that it?  Wait.  That's wrong.  Tattle-taling implies I did something wrong. 

 

Look, if you wish to go run off to Mother Moderator and cry foul over a non-issue that's your business.  But we all know they'll do what they do best.  Be as non-objective as possible and only moderate those who are inadvertently rocking the boat.   Not genuinely breaking the rules. 



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There's a distinct difference between preference and outright refusal to date someone because of the color of their skin.  You keep using that word....prefer. 

 

Prefer denotes that while you may enjoy one thing over another most of the time, you are still open to the others.  Plainly rejecting someone based on the color of their skin (or in this case, whether they have horns on their head)  is succinctly racist.   Honestly, I don't get why people are getting their feathers so ruffled over this.  I just want to foster a good discussion over Cullen as a character.  What makes him tick.   Why do people keep thinking I am trolling when I am clearly not?  Have I insulted anyone personally by accusing Cullen of being racist?  Is it possible to be offended personally by claiming a fictional, pixelated video-game character is a racist?   Is anyone seriously that attached to the character Cullen? 

 

OK, you're not getting the point, and I think you're easier to just Ignore.


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What do you mean? 

 

Edit: Oh I see what you're implying.  You wish to tattle-tale on me?  Is that it?  Wait.  That's wrong.  Tattle-taling implies I did something wrong. 

 

Look, if you wish to go run off to Mother Moderator and cry foul over a non-issue that's your business.  But we all know they'll do what they do best.  Be as non-objective as possible and only moderate those who are inadvertently rocking the boat.   Not genuinely breaking the rules. 

 

I'm pretty sure they were implying that the devs have previously stated that Cullen was race locked due to not having time to make all the adjustments for the cinematic (elvs and humans are pretty similar in sizing so it was easier for those two). So I think they were offering to find you an official source since you seem to not be believing anyone.



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So have finally got skyhold, with a completed hinterlands mosaic! Woo hoo! Still lots to do and given I only can fit in about 3 hours of gaming a night I think it might be Christmas before I finally get to the end! Am very much enjoy the Cullen romance again, and this time my IQ actually looks half decent for him.

Anyway quick slightly unrelated question I would like Leiliana as my divine. I choose ally with the mages because I heard that was important. Are there any others things I should make sure I do/avoid? Thanks in advance!
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