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Oh dear...I didn't realize the modding community was chock full of so much drama. That's really disheartening considering how many cool mods have been made over time by some pretty creative people (my DA:Origins game is modded within an inch of its life) :( Ahh, well. For what it's worth it was a great looking mod you had, even though it wasn't your cup of tea! Thanks for responding. :)

 

Yeah, after getting involved in a couple different gaming communities, it seems the Dragon Age one is just very toxic. Skyrim is all about collaboration and sharing. The DA modding community has tried to do that, however the general user community it seems has greatly ruined it for the modders. My suggestion...if you come across a mod that interests you in the least...download it. Save it in a folder even if you don't use it because chances are it's going to get pulled at some point. If you save it for later at least you'll have it in case you want it and it's gone. 



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Yeah, after getting involved in a couple different gaming communities, it seems the Dragon Age one is just very toxic. Skyrim is all about collaboration and sharing. The DA modding community has tried to do that, however the general user community it seems has greatly ruined it for the modders. My suggestion...if you come across a mod that interests you in the least...download it. Save it in a folder even if you don't use it because chances are it's going to get pulled at some point. If you save it for later at least you'll have it in case you want it and it's gone. 

 

I started doing that a while back, especially with romance mods. Yeah this really is the nastiest fandom I've ever been involved in! People get hate for like hair mods these days.



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I started doing that a while back, especially with romance mods. Yeah this really is the nastiest fandom I've ever been involved in! People get hate for like hair mods these days.

 

Yup, which is why I want nothing to do with it, sorry to say. You guys are great, but I just don't want to expose myself to it. I got enough hate just for Rhiannon's playthrough. 



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Yeah, after getting involved in a couple different gaming communities, it seems the Dragon Age one is just very toxic. Skyrim is all about collaboration and sharing. The DA modding community has tried to do that, however the general user community it seems has greatly ruined it for the modders.

 

Not that I disagree about BioWare fandom being trash (it has always been), but I wouldn't romanticize Bethesda fandom that much. The Skyrim modding community has calmed down now that enough time has passed that only people still playing the game four years after release are still around, but it was the pits of hell a few years ago, much much worse than DA fandom has ever been. What you see left of the Skyrim fandom now is kinda the spoils of war, what's left after all the drama wore out, not the picture a healthy modding community.

 

And before Skyrim it was the Fallout community, and Oblivion, and Morrowind etc, just like before DAI modders getting harrassed there were Mass Effect, DA2, DAO modders getting that. Modding communities are all toxic trash, there isn't really a healthy one. The difference in perception between, say, DAI modders and Skyrim modders left at this point, is that DAI modders seem to be folding more than usual, but I'd wager that's probably because a lot of people modding this game seem to be first-time modders, they haven't been through drama before and the first instinct is to pull entirely. If you look at the more popular/older Skyrim modders like Arthmoor, they're not still around because their communities are less toxic, but because they've become very thick-skinned and don't care anymore - they've been taking this for years and any drama thrown their way is nothing new at this point.

 

I mean, both are valid responses - keep sharing if you can handle the drama, stop if you can't, everyone knows their own limits. My point is more that the DAI modding community is about as wanky as any other, and the Skyrim one (where people have been doxxed over rextextures) really shouldn't be held up as an example of good behavior. DAI will get there eventually, to the sense of collaboration and sharing, it just never happens in the first couple years of a game's release. You gotta give it time, but once the bulk of those toxic people ruining it for everyone start leaving for other games, the modders still left standing in the fandom are the ones who'll uphold that sense of nice, peaceful community you get from looking at dormant fandoms years after the fact.

 

Anyway, Fallout's coming out now, and much of the people interested in modding will flock over there and hopefully take their drama with them, so I think things may get better for DAI modders soon.


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I really love Cullen's romance, but Solas stole my heart. </3


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OK, I'd have given my eyeteeth for a dog in the romances I'm stuck with, might have made a couple of them more palatable, and ya'll are griping? :o :blink:

 

grumble, grumble, grumble...I need a drink or three.

Good point. I didn't have to kill him. Or the dog. Nor did he tell me that he'll have to kill me. Props! 


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I started doing that a while back, especially with romance mods. Yeah this really is the nastiest fandom I've ever been involved in! People get hate for like hair mods these days.

 

I get people having issues with romance mods (I personally don't like them but I'd never yell at people for using/making them) but seriously people start arguments over hair mods!? I can't even comprehend how that happens and it makes me sad :(



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Something to consider on this 14th day since the release of Trespasser. Should we set the spoilers free?

I for one still haven't completed the Cullen romance. But it seems I'm still in no fit state to discuss that particular fluff-filled gifthorse. So I'll prob just bow out for a while.

But, I know others have also just begun it.

Thoughts?

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Something to consider on this 14th day since the release of Trespasser. Should we set the spoilers free?

I for one still haven't completed the Cullen romance. But it seems I'm still in no fit state to discuss that particular fluff-filled gifthorse. So I'll prob just bow out for a while.

But, I know others have also just begun it.

Thoughts?


I'm only just got back from Val Royeaux in my current, filled-to-the-brim DLC playthrough, but I'm pretty spoiled for Trespasser. However, I think many of the members of this forum didn't takes a six month break to play the Mass Effect trilogy three times and are just now getting back to it. ;) I'm fine with letting spoilers loose.
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Something to consider on this 14th day since the release of Trespasser. Should we set the spoilers free?

I for one still haven't completed the Cullen romance. But it seems I'm still in no fit state to discuss that particular fluff-filled gifthorse. So I'll prob just bow out for a while.

But, I know others have also just begun it.

Thoughts?


Since you're past the bulk of the romance content, we could probably drop the spoiler tagging. I think most of us were holding back for your sake as thread mom (everyone else seems to either be done at this point or have spoiled themselves willingly), and there's really not much else to spoil. The rest of it is a single cute moment, not really worth tagging for.

Sorry you didn't enjoy Cullen's content, in any case. Maybe once the shadow of the Solas drama is not souring your mood to the simpler/sweeter romances, you'll come to appreciate it more?
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LOL Honestly, you can have the dog if it means Cullen would spend more time focused on me during those two seconds of screen time. <_<

If he at least looked up when he was talking to us, that would have been something at least.  He spent way too much time looking at the dog when talking, esp the clickable line after the scene.


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LOL It's probably a bit early to assume how zealous a dog owner he'll be canonically, since this is his first.

Actually it is not his first dog, you can ask him if he had a dog before. :rolleyes:



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Not that I disagree about BioWare fandom being trash (it has always been), but I wouldn't romanticize Bethesda fandom that much. The Skyrim modding community has calmed down now that enough time has passed that only people still playing the game four years after release are still around, but it was the pits of hell a few years ago, much much worse than DA fandom has ever been. What you see left of the Skyrim fandom now is kinda the spoils of war, what's left after all the drama wore out, not the picture a healthy modding community.

 

And before Skyrim it was the Fallout community, and Oblivion, and Morrowind etc, just like before DAI modders getting harrassed there were Mass Effect, DA2, DAO modders getting that. Modding communities are all toxic trash, there isn't really a healthy one. The difference in perception between, say, DAI modders and Skyrim modders left at this point, is that DAI modders seem to be folding more than usual, but I'd wager that's probably because a lot of people modding this game seem to be first-time modders, they haven't been through drama before and the first instinct is to pull entirely. If you look at the more popular/older Skyrim modders like Arthmoor, they're not still around because their communities are less toxic, but because they've become very thick-skinned and don't care anymore - they've been taking this for years and any drama thrown their way is nothing new at this point.

 

I mean, both are valid responses - keep sharing if you can handle the drama, stop if you can't, everyone knows their own limits. My point is more that the DAI modding community is about as wanky as any other, and the Skyrim one (where people have been doxxed over rextextures) really shouldn't be held up as an example of good behavior. DAI will get there eventually, to the sense of collaboration and sharing, it just never happens in the first couple years of a game's release. You gotta give it time, but once the bulk of those toxic people ruining it for everyone start leaving for other games, the modders still left standing in the fandom are the ones who'll uphold that sense of nice, peaceful community you get from looking at dormant fandoms years after the fact.

 

Anyway, Fallout's coming out now, and much of the people interested in modding will flock over there and hopefully take their drama with them, so I think things may get better for DAI modders soon.

 

Good point. I've only just joined the Skyrim modding community, and so far I'm only sharing my work in a closed FB modding group. Within that group, nobody hates on anybody else's stuff...and if there is even the slightest hint of it, the admins kick the perpetrator.

 

It's just that I've seen so many rants, tirades, and heart-wrenching posts from modders about being harassed for the tamest of mods, their stuff getting stolen, etc etc. I can't believe people can be so cruel. These people work on this stuff for fun and are nice enough to share their work with the community only to get stepped on. That's what I just want no part of it. 



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I'm only just got back from Val Royeaux in my current, filled-to-the-brim DLC playthrough, but I'm pretty spoiled for Trespasser. However, I think many of the members of this forum didn't takes a six month break to play the Mass Effect trilogy three times and are just now getting back to it. ;) I'm fine with letting spoilers loose.

 

Oh what, you too?  :huh:  :lol:

 

Just started ME1, actually, trying to play on Hardcore. It is... slow going ;_;


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Maybe once the shadow of the Solas drama is not souring your mood to the simpler/sweeter romances, you'll come to appreciate it more?

 

No... *shakes head slowly, eyes becoming cold and distant, voice taking on a mournful, heart-wrenching tone* No, never... this shall never come to be... This Pain, it is eternal... 


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It's just that I've seen so many rants, tirades, and heart-wrenching posts from modders about being harassed for the tamest of mods, their stuff getting stolen, etc etc. I can't believe people can be so cruel. These people work on this stuff for fun and are nice enough to share their work with the community only to get stepped on. That's what I just want no part of it. 

 

This the first time I've had a PC for a game like this so it's all new to me, but boy is it awful and is it ugly. I never would've thought tweaking a gender check so I can romance a digital elf would be grounds for anonymously calling me a "sick piece of sh!t"  :rolleyes:


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Actually it is not his first dog, you can ask him if he had a dog before. :rolleyes:

and the implication is he hasn't had one before.

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Since you're past the bulk of the romance content, we could probably drop the spoiler tagging. I think most of us were holding back for your sake as thread mom (everyone else seems to either be done at this point or have spoiled themselves willingly), and there's really not much else to spoil. The rest of it is a single cute moment, not really worth tagging for.

Sorry you didn't enjoy Cullen's content, in any case. Maybe once the shadow of the Solas drama is not souring your mood to the simpler/sweeter romances, you'll come to appreciate it more?

Ah, good to know, and thanks! <3

CuriousArtemis may be right, the pain is unlikely to subside much. ;) But I started a new story this morning that's proving rather cathartic (mournful hooray!). Hopefully I can finish my Cullenmance run on Trespasser as well and enjoy the rainbows and sunshine, however abbreviated they now seem to be. I am genuinely curious about his romanced epilogues ( I have one of your posts from here bookmarked for later, once I get there). I'm also curious how my choice for the Inquisition will affect our relationship. So still things to look forward to! :wub:
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New tiles are up at the Keep for Trespasser, guys! You can choose the fate of your Inquisition, whether your IQ wants to redeem or stop Solas (hopefully this will make a significant difference in DA4!), and... a third choice I don't seem to have unlocked yet. Maybe Iron Bull's fate?


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New tiles are up at the Keep for Trespasser, guys! You can choose the fate of your Inquisition, whether your IQ wants to redeem or stop Solas (hopefully this will make a significant difference in DA4!), and... a third choice I don't seem to have unlocked yet. Maybe Iron Bull's fate?

Yes, third one is Iron Bull's fate.


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This the first time I've had a PC for a game like this so it's all new to me, but boy is it awful and is it ugly. I never would've thought tweaking a gender check so I can romance a digital elf would be grounds for anonymously calling me a "sick piece of sh!t"  :rolleyes:

 

Judging by the hate I got over Rhiannon's Templar choices, I can only imagine what you got. Really, really sad. 

 

Yes, third one is Iron Bull's fate.

 

So are we done with spoilers now? 

 

Spoiler



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New tiles are up at the Keep for Trespasser, guys! You can choose the fate of your Inquisition, whether your IQ wants to redeem or stop Solas (hopefully this will make a significant difference in DA4!), and... a third choice I don't seem to have unlocked yet. Maybe Iron Bull's fate?

 

IB's does work but it appears

 

Spoiler



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And that's weird - none of the Trespasser stuff is showing up in the Keep for me. And OMGosh when I load Rhiannon's playthrough it doesn't register like anything...not even the Cullen romance...WTF?

 

And it's forcing me to choose the friends with Blackwall slide even though she wasn't and didn't finish his quest...and never found out about who he really was. Also, the slide that says that IB returned to the Qun isn't available. 

 

*sigh*



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IB's does work but it appears

 

Spoiler

 

Yeah, I haven't seen the betrayal on my own game yet, so neither option is unlocked yet. The playthrough where I'll finally have Bull betray me and unlock those tiles is the one where I romanced him so, yeeeeey joy, not only do I get to have my romance destroyed, my love interest killed by my own hand, and some extra salt rubbed on my wounds by the epilogue slide, but I also get the privilege of Weekes and Mike both gleefully mocking and neener-neenering me for it. Really looking forward to that. :) :) :)


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#135475
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So far the consensus is that Spoilers are Go!

I'll change the thread title when I get home.