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There already was a subtle undercurrent of this towards the Qunari in Inquisition with Adaar.
 
A lot of the Chantry NPCs would automatically assume Adaar was a Qun-follower and the war table missions even had the Valo-Kas get kidnapped by a bunch of extremist nutjobs who were convinced that we were part of a Qunari conspiracy to infilitrate and undermine the Chantry.
 
It makes me wonder what the ramifications of Trespasser and the thwarted Qunari invasion of the South end up being, since one of the epilogue slides already suggested that Qun!Bull's betrayal mades things a lot harder for Tal-Vashoth and Vashoth elsewhere in Thedas than it already was. Playing as a Qunari or an Elf in Tevinter should be interesting, I really hope we get all four races back in the next game.
 
Although, do you think the Tevinters will attempt to suppress the knowledge that the Agents of Fen'Harel attempting to return the Elves to dominance? Even if the Magisterium don't take it at all seriously, some might fear that it could sow seeds of dissent and rebellion among the slave population.

Ah, I didn't know that about playing an Adaar. I might actually have to try it!

That's a good point about elves in Tevinter. I also wonder... if you live in a society like that, where elves are slaves, I wonder how seriously you would even consider the threat of a slave uprising. Hmm. Next game should be interesting! Plus... if Maevaris shows up as a character or *gasp* a companion, omgomgomg!
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If you play as an Adaar, the Chanter in Val Royeaux (the one who broke the Chant) actually refuses to speak to you at all, because he refuses to listen to the words of a "Qun-worshipping heretic". It actually made me double-take the first time I played through that part, since he doesn't even treat Lavellan or Cadash with that amount of hostility.

 

I really hope that Mae or Dorian are prominent characters in the next game, it'd be great to see them in action leading the Tevinter Resistance. I'd love to have Mae as a companion, but since Dorian always ends up heading back to Tevinter at the end of Trespasser, it'd not exactly be shoehorning him in if they wanted him to be another returning companion.

 

I wonder if they're going to keep the Templar spec in the next game, since the resident Templars in Tevinter don't use lyrium?


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Ah, I didn't know that about playing an Adaar. I might actually have to try it!

That's a good point about elves in Tevinter. I also wonder... if you live in a society like that, where elves are slaves, I wonder how seriously you would even consider the threat of a slave uprising. Hmm. Next game should be interesting! Plus... if Maevaris shows up as a character or *gasp* a companion, omgomgomg!

Historically, you'd hear lots of denials that it could happen while paranoia rules about it actually happening. Judging from Calpernia's story, I think the writers are aware of that. I have to admit, I saw a lot more subtlety and awareness in how the races were handled in DAO than in DAI. I'm hopeful that was just because they had to shoehorn the others in after a lot of development had already been done. I'm waiting to see how they handle the backlash against elves generally because there simply isn't any way, short of continent-wide mind control, that they won't be scapegoated at least locally.

 

But speaking of Maevaris, and back to Cullen, I would dearly love him to run into her briefly in DA4 (he's gotten the scented handkerchief in several of my PTs, lol.) Or us find correspondence, at least...

 

Edit: Oh, I thought of another potential Fen'harel spy. The former Dalish/mage apprentice Minaeve...She was thrown out by the Dalish, but humans tried to kill her, so she doesn't have much reason to care for either. She claims she wasn't powerful enough to be a full mage, but apprentices who aren't considered strong enough to be Harrowed are made tranquil.


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*snip*

 

As for Wardens, there is a lot foreshadowing indicating that the sh*t hit the fan in the Warden ranks. The Last Flight, Hawke's/surviving Warden's antics, Blackwall's comment, overall rumours. I can only assume we'll find out soon enough. Have you read The Last Flight novel by any chance? That's the big flag of hope for griffons  ^_^

 

Also I fully expect Dorian and Mae to return in DA4, the way the wind blows...  :lol:

 

Yeah, I have... it's what made me have the childish "YAY" when I saw it.

Also wondering if that has contributed to the problems wardens having, maybe divided in how to utilise the griffons or possibly not... keep it secret, breeding programs (I would think if a given), train, release...?. Wardens at the very least are factured, any of issue(s) are bound to compond on it.

 

 

*snip*

 

Edit: Oh, I thought of another potential Fen'harel spy. The former Dalish/mage apprentice Minaeve...She was thrown out by the Dalish, but humans tried to kill her, so she doesn't have much reason to care for either. She claims she wasn't powerful enough to be a full mage, but apprentices who aren't considered strong enough to be Harrowed are made tranquil.

 

Never thought of her. First instinct was no because her treatment from her clan but Solas and his goals aren't Dalish. She does have a love of studying/research, and what better way to indulge in one's passion? I could see her using that passion to help Solas locate more artifacts and knowledge... I wouldn't see her as front line, undercover agent.


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If you play as an Adaar, the Chanter in Val Royeaux (the one who broke the Chant) actually refuses to speak to you at all, because he refuses to listen to the words of a "Qun-worshipping heretic". It actually made me double-take the first time I played through that part, since he doesn't even treat Lavellan or Cadash with that amount of hostility.

This made me wonder how Qunari (as a race) are able to exist out of Qun controlled areas. I mean, we learn about tal/vashoth mercenaries but we only meet Bull (and that other guy in da2) and he's not really tal vashoth to begin with. It is hard to have a clear understanding what a general populace thinks about them. At least with elves (including Dalish) and dwarfs we have plenty of examples, including previous games, and it's easier to have a general idea how they are treated around Thedas.



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Yeah, I have... it's what made me have the childish "YAY" when I saw it.

Also wondering if that has contributed to the problems wardens having, maybe divided in how to utillse the griffons or possibly not... keep it secret, breeding programs (I would think if a given), train, release...?. Wardens at the very least are factured, any of issue(s) are bound to compond on it.

TLF made me mighty excited about DAI, back when I thought we would have some part of the plot dedicated to griffons. Ah well... 


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TLF made me mighty excited about DAI, back when I thought we would have some part of the plot dedicated to griffons. Ah well... 

 

One can hope for next game? I will :)

 

I'm actually curious to see if the Executors will make an appearance in DA4. I would like at least more information about them, whether it's codex entries or some interaction with them. Considering they kept an eye on the happenings during DAI, will the do the same again or be more active?

I've always wanted to know what was beyond Thedas.


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I'm actually curious to see if the Executors will make an appearance in DA4. I would like at least more information about them, whether it's codex entries or some interaction with them. Considering they kept an eye on the happenings during DAI, will the do the same again or be more active?

I've always wanted to know what was beyond Thedas.

The Executors! I really want to learn more about them as well. They piqued my interest. Just like Lizard people (The Descent codex entries about them were quite fascinating).



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One can hope for next game? I will :)

 

I'm actually curious to see if the Executors will make an appearance in DA4. I would like at least more information about them, whether it's codex entries or some interaction with them. Considering they kept an eye on the happenings during DAI, will the do the same again or be more active?

I've always wanted to know what was beyond Thedas.

They might, though I wouldn't be surprised if they kept them for a moment when they are exhausted with the current setting/plot duirection. It would make sense if they started to foreshadow existence of some unknown forces long before they are introduced. Still, I only completed the chalk markings mission couple of days ago and it's nice to be reminded (especially in the context of dai and trespasser's lore dump) that there are still many mysteries lingering in the shadow. :ph34r:  


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The Executors! I really want to learn more about them as well. They piqued my interest. Just like Lizard people (The Descent codex entries about them were quite fascinating).

omg yes!! I kept expecting the lizard people to have some connection to the Titan. But no answers!
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I've always wanted to know what was beyond Thedas.

I was just thinking about this as I heard a war table banter about it . It made me hope that they might actually explore that in the next game!
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LOL So, for those keeping score at home . . .

From the Solas thread... 7 pages ago...
 

Aaaaand, we are now even with the Cullen thread, people!


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omg yes!! I kept expecting the lizard people to have some connection to the Titan. But no answers!

Whoever came up with putting those codex entries there is evil genius.

"You wanna know, right? Nope, not this time!"  :P

 

LOL So, for those keeping score at home . . .

From the Solas thread... 7 pages ago...
 

:P

Hehe, yeah. I saw that. I'm surprised they didn't throw huge party after that, considering how much they'd posted about overtaking Cullen thread  :lol:

And I say it with all the love I have for people in Solas thread.


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Whoever came up with putting those codex entries there is evil genius.

"You wanna know, right? Nope, not this time!"  :P

 

Hehe, yeah. I saw that. I'm surprised they didn't throw huge party after that, considering how much they'd posted about overtaking Cullen thread  :lol:

And I say it with all the love I have for people in Solas thread.

:lol: :P

Well, that's how it should be at this point. Cullen's story is pretty much over unless they really surprise us, while Solas's still has huge potential.


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Lyrium ghost is interesting, but there are some things that still make me wonder if there's more to her in general, like the Blight resistance we find out about in Redcliffe Castle.

And then there's Justina... I still have no idea what's up with her.

Does Solas ever cover why the Conclave was picked, or the Divine? Because, whatever Cory was doing wasn't blood magic to unlock the Orb. And it unlocked without killing Justina. This is why I play this game, it makes my head hurt.

On a Cullen note: do we know how long he was in the Pepto Bubble of Doom?

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LOL So, for those keeping score at home . . .

From the Solas thread... 7 pages ago...
 

:P

Meh, it'll impress me when they beat the total of all our threads.  :P  ;)


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LOL So, for those keeping score at home . . .

From the Solas thread... 7 pages ago...
 

:P


I caught this on tumblr this morning. I'm still waiting for my popcorn :)
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Meh, it'll impress me when they beat the total of all our threads.  :P  ;)

LOL I figure they can have their celebration without pointing out that they need over 9000 pages of continuous discussion to really top us. :D But they have time. :P

 

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I caught this on tumblr this morning. I'm still waiting for my popcorn :)

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Hey guys and gals, I'm working on a fanfiction and I have a rather stupid question. Ahem... would you describe Cullen's hair as blond?


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Hey guys and gals, I'm working on a fanfiction and I have a rather stupid question. Ahem... would you describe Cullen's hair as blond?

 

Depends on which version of him makes the strongest impression in your mind. I still can't see him as blond, despite hard evidence to the contrary - I'll always see him in my mind as having auburn hair, like he had in DAO. Maybe he's just... going white very fast. :ph34r:

 

But yes, you can totally describe him as blond in your fic. Headcanons and stubborn player perception aside, he's undeniably blond in DA2/DAI. :P


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Depends on which version of him makes the strongest impression in your mind. I still can't see him as blond, despite hard evidence to the contrary - I'll always see him in my mind as having auburn hair, like he had in DAO. Maybe he's just... going white very fast. :ph34r:


Nah, it all that time spent in the warm northern latitudes outside. Lightened the hair. :)

On another note, due to recent personal events, I've got this horribly cliche but somewhat amusing image in my head:

Cullen sitting on a stool, sharpening a sword as a fifteen year old boy is standing in front of him, looking somewhat terrified. The caption is 'you *will* have my daughter home before sunset.'

As I said, cliche, but I just couldn't help but find it amusing.
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LOL I figure they can have their celebration without pointing out that they need over 9000 pages of continuous discussion to really top us. :D But they have time. :P

 

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Hey I said that :D And tis still true!!!

 

Hey guys and gals, I'm working on a fanfiction and I have a rather stupid question. Ahem... would you describe Cullen's hair as blond?

 

Yeah is this a trick question?? What other color would it be? Unless you are wanting to be really specific? Cause he's not brunet or redhead, so....

 

I'm getting weirdly interested in my Cullen-mance playthrough?? But with all the modding I know I'm gonna wanna do, it HAS to wait till break. Modding is so stressful. I take hours deciding on a hairstyle alone. And then there are the Skyhold outfits, the skin textures, etc etc etc. It's why I haven't picked up TS4 in a year. MODDING STRESSES ME OUT. And yet once I start using them I can't play the game without them....

 

I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. Which is weird because Auren was always an archer in my head. But I've played archer twice now. Gonna go DW this time. Which makes sense for a Dalish hunter, surely, as much as a bow?? But I tried to start DW with Alin and changed 10 minutes into the game back to a bow....


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Yeah is this a trick question?? What other color would it be? Unless you are wanting to be really specific? Cause he's not brunet or redhead, so....

 

I'm getting weirdly interested in my Cullen-mance playthrough?? But with all the modding I know I'm gonna wanna do, it HAS to wait till break. Modding is so stressful. I take hours deciding on a hairstyle alone. And then there are the Skyhold outfits, the skin textures, etc etc etc. It's why I haven't picked up TS4 in a year. MODDING STRESSES ME OUT. And yet once I start using them I can't play the game without them....

 

I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. Which is weird because Auren was always an archer in my head. But I've played archer twice now. Gonna go DW this time. Which makes sense for a Dalish hunter, surely, as much as a bow?? But I tried to start DW with Alin and changed 10 minutes into the game back to a bow....

 

Getting mods just to work is stressful enough for me that I still don't use them :lol:

 

Bolded: well! you could.. uhhh.. umm...

*realizes all she ever plays is archers, mages and that one lonely templar*

I don't have a foot to stand on :( good luck with that!


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