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Depends on which version of him makes the strongest impression in your mind. I still can't see him as blond, despite hard evidence to the contrary - I'll always see him in my mind as having auburn hair, like he had in DAO. Maybe he's just... going white very fast. :ph34r:


Nah, it all that time spent in the warm northern latitudes outside. Lightened the hair. :)

On another note, due to recent personal events, I've got this horribly cliche but somewhat amusing image in my head:

Cullen sitting on a stool, sharpening a sword as a fifteen year old boy is standing in front of him, looking somewhat terrified. The caption is 'you *will* have my daughter home before sunset.'

As I said, cliche, but I just couldn't help but find it amusing.
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LOL I figure they can have their celebration without pointing out that they need over 9000 pages of continuous discussion to really top us. :D But they have time. :P

 

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Hey I said that :D And tis still true!!!

 

Hey guys and gals, I'm working on a fanfiction and I have a rather stupid question. Ahem... would you describe Cullen's hair as blond?

 

Yeah is this a trick question?? What other color would it be? Unless you are wanting to be really specific? Cause he's not brunet or redhead, so....

 

I'm getting weirdly interested in my Cullen-mance playthrough?? But with all the modding I know I'm gonna wanna do, it HAS to wait till break. Modding is so stressful. I take hours deciding on a hairstyle alone. And then there are the Skyhold outfits, the skin textures, etc etc etc. It's why I haven't picked up TS4 in a year. MODDING STRESSES ME OUT. And yet once I start using them I can't play the game without them....

 

I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. Which is weird because Auren was always an archer in my head. But I've played archer twice now. Gonna go DW this time. Which makes sense for a Dalish hunter, surely, as much as a bow?? But I tried to start DW with Alin and changed 10 minutes into the game back to a bow....


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Yeah is this a trick question?? What other color would it be? Unless you are wanting to be really specific? Cause he's not brunet or redhead, so....

 

I'm getting weirdly interested in my Cullen-mance playthrough?? But with all the modding I know I'm gonna wanna do, it HAS to wait till break. Modding is so stressful. I take hours deciding on a hairstyle alone. And then there are the Skyhold outfits, the skin textures, etc etc etc. It's why I haven't picked up TS4 in a year. MODDING STRESSES ME OUT. And yet once I start using them I can't play the game without them....

 

I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. Which is weird because Auren was always an archer in my head. But I've played archer twice now. Gonna go DW this time. Which makes sense for a Dalish hunter, surely, as much as a bow?? But I tried to start DW with Alin and changed 10 minutes into the game back to a bow....

 

Getting mods just to work is stressful enough for me that I still don't use them :lol:

 

Bolded: well! you could.. uhhh.. umm...

*realizes all she ever plays is archers, mages and that one lonely templar*

I don't have a foot to stand on :( good luck with that!


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Getting mods just to work is stressful enough for me that I still don't use them :lol:

 

Bolded: well! you could.. uhhh.. umm...

*realizes all she ever plays is archers, mages and that one lonely templar*

I don't have a foot to stand on :( good luck with that!

 

I know, archers are just the best, aren't they xDDD And I really have enjoyed playing a mage, too! Haven't finished a playthrough with one yet though. 

 

And I agree, the whole having to constantly update and redownload and blah blah blah every time there's a new patch for the game, it just stresses me to the max >.< And god forbid you load your game up and something isn't working right. I once spent almost three hours trying to make Brynjolf live in the house I built for us after we got married. The jerk refused to stay put there; every time we fast traveled to our nice new house he would just start walking all the way back to Riften. I never did go back to that particular Skyrim playthrough; just couldn't handle him not doing what I wanted him to do, and all because some mod was probably not compatible with some other mod I had, and at that point I had between 50 and 100, so... yeah. lol



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I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. 

I have one. Charging Bull  :P

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Nah, it all that time spent in the warm northern latitudes outside. Lightened the hair. :)

 

Oh, I like that. They say even a sunny day in Ferelden is still grey, so maybe those almost ten years in the super sunny Marches did lighten his hair from dark blond to the more strawish color he takes on later. I'm going with that theory, then. :D

 

I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. Which is weird because Auren was always an archer in my head. But I've played archer twice now. Gonna go DW this time. Which makes sense for a Dalish hunter, surely, as much as a bow?? But I tried to start DW with Alin and changed 10 minutes into the game back to a bow....

 

Wish I could help, but I've found playing dual-wielders such a drag in this game. Lost both the rhythmic pace it had in DAO and the frantic pace it had in DAI and just became this... kinda draggy poke-poke-stab routine? 

 

But if Auren is already an archer in your head, I'd say go with it. If it's part of his character, then so what that you already played two other archers? It's still an important element to him. Don't some people claim they can only ever play mages? Nothing says you can't be the player that can only play archers. (and I'm not saying that because my first characters in every RPG are always archers or anything ;) )

 

But more seriously, play what you enjoy. I find dragging myself through classes I don't enjoy playing (mages, mostly) makes for very long and draggy playthroughs where I mostly hit auto-attack and scroll through tumblr on my phone during fights, praying there'll be some story element soon to release me from the boredom. When I'm playing a class I enjoy, though, I get super engaged, have fun with the combat and actually run after more enemies just to go at it a few more rounds before going back to the story. I think if playing archers is an element that adds extra fun to the game for you, just go with it.


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Yessssssss?

 

 

Depends on which version of him makes the strongest impression in your mind. I still can't see him as blond, despite hard evidence to the contrary - I'll always see him in my mind as having auburn hair, like he had in DAO. Maybe he's just... going white very fast. :ph34r:

 

But yes, you can totally describe him as blond in your fic. Headcanons and stubborn player perception aside, he's undeniably blond in DA2/DAI. :P

 

 

Nah, it all that time spent in the warm northern latitudes outside. Lightened the hair. :)

On another note, due to recent personal events, I've got this horribly cliche but somewhat amusing image in my head:

Cullen sitting on a stool, sharpening a sword as a fifteen year old boy is standing in front of him, looking somewhat terrified. The caption is 'you *will* have my daughter home before sunset.'

As I said, cliche, but I just couldn't help but find it amusing.

 

 

Hey I said that :D And tis still true!!!

 

 

Yeah is this a trick question?? What other color would it be? Unless you are wanting to be really specific? Cause he's not brunet or redhead, so....

 

I'm getting weirdly interested in my Cullen-mance playthrough?? But with all the modding I know I'm gonna wanna do, it HAS to wait till break. Modding is so stressful. I take hours deciding on a hairstyle alone. And then there are the Skyhold outfits, the skin textures, etc etc etc. It's why I haven't picked up TS4 in a year. MODDING STRESSES ME OUT. And yet once I start using them I can't play the game without them....

 

I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. Which is weird because Auren was always an archer in my head. But I've played archer twice now. Gonna go DW this time. Which makes sense for a Dalish hunter, surely, as much as a bow?? But I tried to start DW with Alin and changed 10 minutes into the game back to a bow....

 

Thanks. No, not a trick question. His haircolor definitely changed over the course of the last three games.

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Well, his haircolor wasn't the only thing that changed :P . Never mind. I like Ariella's approach with the northern latitudes :lol:, so I'll just go with that. 

 

Regarding modding, with the release of the last DLC, BioWare is probably done patching the game. This should make modding easier, so it's a good time now to try it out. Yesterday I went over to Nexusmods and had a look. Yes, it can be quite time consuming to settle on something :D (which explains why I went to bed way loo late). BTW, does anyone know by any chance if there is a good tutorial on how to make your own clothes for DAI? I found several tutorials on how to mod the clothes but couldn't really dig something up about making your own. 


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Hey I said that :D And tis still true!!!

 

 

Yeah is this a trick question?? What other color would it be? Unless you are wanting to be really specific? Cause he's not brunet or redhead, so....

 

I'm getting weirdly interested in my Cullen-mance playthrough?? But with all the modding I know I'm gonna wanna do, it HAS to wait till break. Modding is so stressful. I take hours deciding on a hairstyle alone. And then there are the Skyhold outfits, the skin textures, etc etc etc. It's why I haven't picked up TS4 in a year. MODDING STRESSES ME OUT. And yet once I start using them I can't play the game without them....

 

I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. Which is weird because Auren was always an archer in my head. But I've played archer twice now. Gonna go DW this time. Which makes sense for a Dalish hunter, surely, as much as a bow?? But I tried to start DW with Alin and changed 10 minutes into the game back to a bow....

I'm finding modding easier than I have in the past (now that I know how, lol.) I'm even collecting mods I want to use in the future in an "inactive" folder so I can just pop them in as I want to change things up. I didn't expect to mod much, and next to a lot of people I suppose I don't, but I have 10 active at the moment (half of them modding my female dwarves and elves and giving Cullen body hair, lol) plus the utility that lets me give them wild hair colors. I haven't done a lot of appearance modding, though I have half a dozen hair mods in the inactive folder for future PTs, partly because it seems like those are the ones that have had the most trouble with the DLCs and locking up, etc. I'm hoping that now that the final DLC is in place that those are stabilizing because I really want eyebrow mods at least, lol. I swear, they created the vanilla eyebrows and hairstyles with the specific intent to motivate modders... :lol:

 

Not sure I can give you a good reason either. I've got a dwarven archer and a qunari DWer and have enjoyed both so far. Dual wield can be fun if you get the right combo of abilities, etc. but while archery is much better in DAI than it was in DAO, the melee classes overall are harder to play. I think that's because I find the movement controls for the PC awkward and the game requirement that you be practically standing on top of someone to actually land a blow challenges my aging depth perception badly. (Actually, I find that one of the most annoying things in the game because I've literally had to stand on some things to pick them up or hit them.) Maybe that bizarrely close distance requirement works better if you use tactical mode, but all I've used it for is to check what they're vulnerable and immune to. :rolleyes:

 

But honestly, if he's an archer in your head, isn't it going to bother your sense of "rightness" in the PT to see him as a DWer (even if he would have been trained as both at least to a basic level; the Dalish hunters both hunt game and defend the clan and archery doesn't really work at melee range?) Especially if you like archery. Change his specialization to one you haven't played and that'll help keep it fresh, maybe?


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BTW, does anyone know by any chance if there is a good tutorial on how to make your own clothes for DAI? I found several tutorials on how to mod the clothes but couldn't really dig something up about making your own. 

 

Making your own as in, from scratch, is not really possible, because you can't import meshes back into the game. Even the hair mods have to be done just so, because you can't import a whole new hair mesh as with other games, you have to work with the original meshes.

 

The best you can do is get creative with the outfits we have. I've seen some very neat ideas around, like PJ recolors that make the top look like a crop top by making the midrift look transparent, recolors that make the wedding dress look like the old Circle robes just with clever handdrawn designs, now someone's removed the sword from Isabela's unused pirate coat to make it look like a long coat... you can get a lot out of the vanilla models by being creative with recolors, but unfortunately making clothes from the ground up is not possible yet.


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Aha, I see, thank you :).



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I haven't done a lot of appearance modding, though I have half a dozen hair mods in the inactive folder for future PTs, partly because it seems like those are the ones that have had the most trouble with the DLCs and locking up, etc. I'm hoping that now that the final DLC is in place that those are stabilizing because I really want eyebrow mods at least, lol.

 

Hair mods and face retextures are as stable as they get by now, unless BW decides to launch another mini-patch at some point... but I doubt it. They already released the fix patch for Trespasser, and I think that was all they intended to do with this game.

 

I'm using replacers for virtually every hair but the buzzcuts (because I like seeing the NPCs with good hair too), and haven't had any issues. The only place where you will inevitably have issues is in Trespasser, but that breaks so many mods that I've found it easier to just have a side folder with only the minimal mods that actually work in it and swap it around in when I play through that one, than to keep moving mods in and out of the main mod folder all the time.

 

Anyway here's some modding tips no one asked for. :lol: The easiest way I've found to work with tons of possibly conflicting mods is to have one universal Mods folders, where you put mods that you will use in every character you play, and separate smaller folders with each character's name, where you throw in the mods that you will only use with that character. So if you use three different ponytail replacers with each of your characters, you put it the chara's folder, but if you use one replacer for everyone, you put it in the universal folder. Same for unique PJs for different characters of the same race, face retextures, etc. I have my qunari/elf PJ replacers in the universal because those are the only ones I like so I use them through all characters, but I have a different PJ for each of my humans or dwarves, so those go in the character's folder, etc. So that universal folder you'll rarely have to touch, so you won't be meddling with so many mods each time you play a different character - you can just pop that character's unique folder in and out of the main one and rebuild your patch each time you feel like playing them, without rebuilding your entire mod folder aaaaaall over again.

 

At least that's what's been working for me. I find modding quite calming and therapeutic because I enjoy the process of downloading and classifying mods, making directories and subfolders, organizing them according to which playthrough they belong to, etc - but I know not everyone uses modding to satisfy their OCD. :P


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Hair mods and face retextures are as stable as they get by now, unless BW decides to launch another mini-patch at some point... but I doubt it. They already released the fix patch for Trespasser, and I think that was all they intended to do with this game.

 

I'm using replacers for virtually every hair but the buzzcuts (because I like seeing the NPCs with good hair too), and haven't had any issues. The only place where you will inevitably have issues is in Trespasser, but that breaks so many mods that I've found it easier to just have a side folder with only the minimal mods that actually work in it and swap it around in when I play through that one, than to keep moving mods in and out of the main mod folder all the time.

 

Anyway here's some modding tips no one asked for. :lol: The easiest way I've found to work with tons of possibly conflicting mods is to have one universal Mods folders, where you put mods that you will use in every character you play, and separate smaller folders with each character's name, where you throw in the mods that you will only use with that character. So if you use three different ponytail replacers with each of your characters, you put it the chara's folder, but if you use one replacer for everyone, you put it in the universal folder. Same for unique PJs for different characters of the same race, face retextures, etc. I have my qunari/elf PJ replacers in the universal because those are the only ones I like so I use them through all characters, but I have a different PJ for each of my humans or dwarves, so those go in the character's folder, etc. So that universal folder you'll rarely have to touch, so you won't be meddling with so many mods each time you play a different character - you can just pop that character's unique folder in and out of the main one and rebuild your patch each time you feel like playing them, without rebuilding your entire mod folder aaaaaall over again.

 

At least that's what's been working for me. I find modding quite calming and therapeutic because I enjoy the process of downloading and classifying mods, making directories and subfolders, organizing them according to which playthrough they belong to, etc - but I know not everyone uses modding to satisfy their OCD. :P

Part of the problem for me is that I have several simultaneous PTs going at once and often can only play for 15 to 30 minute at a time. Makes me a bit reluctant to do anything that involves having to rebuild the patch every time I launch the game. Fortunately PJ replacers are race specific, which has been a help at avoiding constantly losing 5 minutes of game time to switch things around and rebuild the patch (not much, I know, but when it's 1/3 of your time to play for the day...) And it also helps keep me from actually playing too many PCs at once.

 

Also, I discovered last night that synchronizing patterns for one of my early PTs (level 6 in Haven) takes well over 5 minutes, lol. But my future polymancing Dalish rogue is now wearing the Dragon Hunter armor from JoH :lol:

 

Edited for not enough coffee yet...



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Also, I discovered last night that synchronizing patterns for one of my early PTs (level 6 in Haven) takes well over 5 minutes, lol. But my future polymancing Dalish rogue is now wearing the Dragon Hunter armor from JoH :lol:

 

You mean through the Nug? You don't have to wait until the text stops scrolling, you know.... :P as soon as I hear the SUPER LOUD NOISE announcing the syncing, I'm off to the crafting station, that text can keep scrolling for hours. :D


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You mean through the Nug? You don't have to wait until the text stops scrolling, you know.... :P as soon as I hear the SUPER LOUD NOISE announcing the syncing, I'm off to the crafting station, that text can keep scrolling four hours. :D

Good to know. I wasn't certain, though I'd noticed before that the noise was faster than the scrolling text. I tabbed out, so I don't know exactly how quickly I got the noise itself last night...


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Thanks. No, not a trick question. His haircolor definitely changed over the course of the last three games.

Spoiler

 

Well, his haircolor wasn't the only thing that changed :P . Never mind. I like Ariella's approach with the northern latitudes :lol:, so I'll just go with that. 

 

Regarding modding, with the release of the last DLC, BioWare is probably done patching the game. This should make modding easier, so it's a good time now to try it out. Yesterday I went over to Nexusmods and had a look. Yes, it can be quite time consuming to settle on something :D (which explains why I went to bed way loo late). BTW, does anyone know by any chance if there is a good tutorial on how to make your own clothes for DAI? I found several tutorials on how to mod the clothes but couldn't really dig something up about making your own. 

I think there's still no consensus on his hair from DA:O, except that a lot of the red seems to come from the indoor lighting in the Circle Tower. Once you take him outside, it's closer to a darker blond with reddish tints. Once upon a time, Gala tried for a lighting corrected comparison which showed they aren't actually all that different between DA:O and DA2. 

 

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Nevertheless, I think you can just call his hair whatever you want. That's what everyone else has done over the years! :)

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I need someone to give me a reason though to NOT play an archer or a mage. Which is weird because Auren was always an archer in my head. But I've played archer twice now. Gonna go DW this time. Which makes sense for a Dalish hunter, surely, as much as a bow?? But I tried to start DW with Alin and changed 10 minutes into the game back to a bow....

Wish I could help, but I've found playing dual-wielders such a drag in this game. Lost both the rhythmic pace it had in DAO and the frantic pace it had in DAI and just became this... kinda draggy poke-poke-stab routine?


LOL I love dual wield in DA:I. My rogue was BADASS disappearing and reappearing all over the battlefield. It was better once I got A Thousand Cuts, of course, but it was way more fun for me to be in the thick of things than standing back as an archer and worrying about aggroing the baddies. Then again... I'm just not a backrow kind of character. :D I still haven't played a mage for the same reason. Not sure if that's a reason since it's just the way I personally prefer to the play the game. Sounds like ranging is yours, MMG!
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Nevertheless, I think you can just call his hair whatever you want. That's what everyone else has done over the years! :)

 

When in doubt, just call it a bowl of ramen and we'll know what you're talking about. :P


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LOL I love dual wield in DA:I. My rogue was BADASS disappearing and reappearing all over the battlefield.  It was better once I got A Thousand Cuts, of course, but it was way more fun for me to be in the thick of things than standing back as an archer and worrying about aggroing the baddies. Then again... I'm just now a backrow kind of character.  :D I still haven't played a mage for the same reason. Not sure if that's a reason since it's just the way I personally prefer to the play the game. Sounds like ranging is yours, MMG!
 

I used to play only close combat characters, no matter the game. DA series is actually my first try in ranged classes.

This said, I love mages in DAI. I oftenly play really mobile mages. One would say you can only go melee with KE. But when you get used to Rift Mage's skills, you can go melee with this one as well  :P

Can't really tell about Necro, since I never played one.

 

And I love dw as well. I played dw rogues in all DA games and Inquisition's version is my fav.

Tho sometimes I miss Decoy.



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LOL I love dual wield in DA:I. My rogue was BADASS disappearing and reappearing all over the battlefield.  It was better once I got A Thousand Cuts, of course, but it was way more fun for me to be in the thick of things than standing back as an archer and worrying about aggroing the baddies. Then again... I'm just now a backrow kind of character.  :D I still haven't played a mage for the same reason. Not sure if that's a reason since it's just the way I personally prefer to the play the game. Sounds like ranging is yours, MMG!

 

I'll admit I like the dual wielding once you get the good skills that let you flicker all over the place and land sure backstab hits. It's the early-game poke-poke that drives me nuts - but I think Tish also has a point about the PC controls. It's really hard for me to aim for a specific enemy within range without getting all up in their face, so I end up flailing all over without hitting anything. With warriors that still works because the swords are longer and two-handers have AoE damage, so even if you're flailing you're still hitting something, lol. And with Warriors you also have Guard even as early as Level 1, so there's survavibility in getting up close. With a dual wielder I only have access to Guard once I get to Skyhold and can craft with Masterwork materials, so that's a lot of early game when I'm running up into an enemy's face to be able to hit them, only to get KO'd by their giant hammer. 

 

I'll say, my main problem with playing mages (at least from a pure gameplay perspective) is still the fact that they're rooted in place and their animations take fivever to end before they can move. I hate being stuck in place when you aggro something and have no way to move - rogues can strafe or stealth or roll, warriors can also roll out from a blow (or use one of those Come At Me Bro skills that negate damage), but mages just stand there finishing that fifty years long spellcasting animation until they inevitably get punched in the face - because even the flash spell that lets you zap away won't trigger if you're still in the middle of another animation. If mages could strafe like archers, or if you could at least interrupt animations by moving the direction controls, I'd enjoy them a lot more in combat. I get that it makes sense lore-wise, mages need a lot of focus and concentration to cast spells etc, but they screw with lore everywhere else - no need to be precious about this tidbit when all it does is... get me punched in the face. :lol:


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I'll say, my main problem with playing mages (at least from a pure gameplay perspective) is still the fact that they're rooted in place and their animations take fivever to end before they can move.

This is my only complain about mages combat. I wish we could move while casting, just like archers move while firing shots.

 

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Here's a little Cullen wedding comic:

http://mikaniac.devi...g-for-565959033
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Here's a little Cullen wedding comic:
http://mikaniac.devi...g-for-565959033


Cool, thats1evilldude, thanks.

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The Solas thread is ahead of us. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! 

 

 

 

P.S. Hi guys! 


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Oh, I like that. They say even a sunny day in Ferelden is still grey, so maybe those almost ten years in the super sunny Marches did lighten his hair from dark blond to the more strawish color he takes on later. I'm going with that theory, then. :D


Thanks. No, not a trick question. His haircolor definitely changed over the course of the last three games.

Well, his haircolor wasn't the only thing that changed :P . Never mind. I like Ariella's approach with the northern latitudes :lol:, so I'll just go with that.


I live to serve :). of course the fact he was standing outside most of the time at the Gallows, where as I doubt he went outside much at Kinloch Hold.

Or it could also be thinner Veil bleaches things. Nah, go with the sunny North.

I think there's still no consensus on his hair from DA:O, except that a lot of the red seems to come from the indoor lighting in the Circle Tower. Once you take him outside, it's closer to a darker blond with reddish tints. Once upon a time, Gala tried for a lighting corrected comparison which showed they aren't actually all that different between DA:O and DA2. 
 
Nevertheless, I think you can just call his hair whatever you want. That's what everyone else has done over the years! :)
coughcough


This is the second time I've seen the lighting issue come up. The first being the rather infamous Isabela skin tone glitch. Wonder why that was the case. Though it may be the same thing I felt when they created Aurora. NWN OC felt like they were being real cautious and not pushing what Aurora engine could actually do.
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This is the second time I've seen the lighting issue come up. The first being the rather infamous Isabela skin tone glitch. Wonder why that was the case. Though it may be the same thing I felt when they created Aurora. NWN OC felt like they were being real cautious and not pushing what Aurora engine could actually do.


It's also an issue for da2!Alistair, who looks much better once you take him outside. I think the fact is that the lighting is just wonky, and there are a few colors of things that the fandom cares deeply about. :P
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