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[fontofnothing]

I have vague memories of something like that showing up in the game, but they are very vague. The dialogue does look a lot like the dialogue you get if you ask him about his experiences in Kirkwall. Maybe it's like Josephine's explanation of Baron du Rellion's ownership of Haven: you only get the dialogue if you don't open up the "Kirkwall" dialogue branch in Haven. Since most of us do exhaust every possible dialogue tree at the first opportunity, it would explain why we haven't seen it.

 

Also, hello everyone! Hope you're all enjoying Trespasser!

 

Hmm... The plot flag required to trigger the dialogue must be set to true for the dialogue to trigger, which means you have to do something to actually set the flag. If you don't do anything, then the flag would not be present (and automatically be read as being false), which is the case for all of my saves. I've been going through Cullen's, Hawke's, and Varric's other conversation files to see if anything sets the flag, but haven't found anything so far.

 

Here's the dialogue in the Mod Maker (the Hawke dialogue is in a separate branch from the Kirkwall dialogue):

Spoiler

 

If it does depend on whether or not you asked him about Kirkwall in Haven, then I would think that speaking to him about Kirkwall there would set a flag (making the flag true), and then this Hawke dialogue would then look for a false flag in order to confirm that the Kirkwall conversation never took place in Haven. Since the flag would be true, the Hawke conversation would not trigger. Confusing. Wish I had a save where the Inquisitor didn't speak to Cullen about Kirkwall at Haven just to test things.

 

The dialogue also doesn't check to see if you're even at Skyhold yet, so either you can trigger it as early as Haven, or that one plot flag can't be set until you've already reached Skyhold.

[R2s Muse]

See, this is the reason I'm obsessively writing about them. They're nuts. And I blame R2. I would have been happy and safe writing Inquisitor Trevelyan fic, but no, I had to read your stuff, R2, and then Hawke wouldn't shut up.

My life would be so much easier (dramatic sigh) but probably not as fun

Woo hooo!! I'll take all the blame! muwahahahahahaha! Cullen x Hawke OTP 5eva!!







ahem. sorry. i've gotten that out of my system. for now. 

 

as you were, everyone! 

[R2s Muse]

Hmm... The plot flag required to trigger the dialogue must be set to true for the dialogue to trigger, which means you have to do something to actually set the flag. If you don't do anything, then the flag would not be present (and automatically be read as being false), which is the case for all of my saves. I've been going through Cullen's, Hawke's, and Varric's other conversation files to see if anything sets the flag, but haven't found anything so far.

 

Here's the dialogue in the Mod Maker (the Hawke dialogue is in a separate branch from the Kirkwall dialogue):

Spoiler

 

If it does depend on whether or not you asked him about Kirkwall in Haven, then I would think that speaking to him about Kirkwall there would set a flag (making the flag true), and then this Hawke dialogue would then look for a false flag in order to confirm that the Kirkwall conversation never took place in Haven. Since the flag would be true, the Hawke conversation would not trigger. Confusing. Wish I had a save where the Inquisitor didn't speak to Cullen about Kirkwall at Haven just to test things.

 

The dialogue also doesn't check to see if you're even at Skyhold yet, so either you can trigger it as early as Haven, or that one plot flag can't be set until you've already reached Skyhold.

Hmm, are most of the flags readable (e.g., da2_hawke_is_male), or are there others that are just a bunch of hex code? Maybe that's an indicator that it's not a 'real' flag that they still use?? 

[R2s Muse]

Soooo totally random, but I just received a completely innocuous email with the subject line: Culinary Master Series... and my brain went to a weird place presumably influenced by the fact that I've been writing Cullen smut today. 

[Ariella]

Woo hooo!! I'll take all the blame! muwahahahahahaha! Cullen x Hawke OTP 5eva!!

ahem. sorry. i've gotten that out of my system. for now. 
 
as you were, everyone! 

This is why I need to remember to not read and drink at the same time. I'm either going to destroy my keyboard or choke to death from laughter.

I have to admit I have this image in my head, which I would try to draw if I could actually draw a straight line, of the two of them in a Pretty Woman poster kind of pose. Him in the Inquisition gear, her in the Mantle back to back.

[fontofnothing]

Hmm, are most of the flags readable (e.g., da2_hawke_is_male), or are there others that are just a bunch of hex code? Maybe that's an indicator that it's not a 'real' flag that they still use?? 

 

Unfortunately, most of the flags are hex code. I'm usually able to figure out what they most likely mean by comparing lines of dialogue that look for the same flags, or by finding out which lines of dialogue set which flags, or even by looking at the plot files, but so far I haven't been able to find this particular flag in any of the obvious spots.

[Ariella]

Soooo totally random, but I just received a completely innocuous email with the subject line: Culinary Master Series... and my brain went to a weird place presumably influenced by the fact that I've been writing Cullen smut today. 

Pokes head up from Word... Smut??? Cullen Smut??? Ohhhh...

Okay, back to writing angsty clueless Cullen.

[Rascoth]

I can hear it now...

"Invincible, hmmm?"
"Don't let it go to your head, Hawke."
"But it's so nice to know you secretly cared all these years."
"Maddening woman."

That is so accurate. I can imagine she would tell Varric next and both of them would tease Cullen about that all the time 

 

Wish I had a save where the Inquisitor didn't speak to Cullen about Kirkwall at Haven just to test things. 

I don't have time to do this today, but if you don't find anyone who could check that, I can do that. I mean, I always exhaust all dialogue options, but I can do quick run to Skyhold without asking Cullen about Kirkwall. Just say a word 

 

*casually puts this picture in her 'valuables' folder* 

Edit: Of course if I can.

[CuriousArtemis]

I MAY have a female dwarf with female Hawke playthrough that I can test this with. Because I know I've gotten this dialogue before, just not sure with whom. And all my other playthroughs are male elves with male Hawkes.

[R2s Muse]

Unfortunately, most of the flags are hex code. I'm usually able to figure out what they most likely mean by comparing lines of dialogue that look for the same flags, or by finding out which lines of dialogue set which flags, or even by looking at the plot files, but so far I haven't been able to find this particular flag in any of the obvious spots.

Oh, pooh. I'm so curious now to see if you can find it! 

[R2s Muse]

 

*casually puts this picture in her 'valuables' folder* 

Edit: Of course if I can.

By all means! Mi Cullen es tu Cullen.

[Rascoth]

By all means! Mi Cullen es tu Cullen.

Thanks 

I may ship Cullen with all three protags, but there's something about him with Hawke... Ah...

[fontofnothing]

I don't have time to do this today, but if you don't find anyone who could check that, I can do that. I mean, I always exhaust all dialogue options, but I can do quick run to Skyhold without asking Cullen about Kirkwall. Just say a word 

 

Aw, thanks! I've already started a speed run, and with the help of Cheat Engine and God Mode, it's moving pretty quickly.

 

I MAY have a female dwarf with female Hawke playthrough that I can test this with. Because I know I've gotten this dialogue before, just not sure with whom. And all my other playthroughs are male elves with male Hawkes.

 

If you can get the dialogue to trigger, please let me know! It shouldn't matter if your Hawke is male or female, or if your Inquisitor is an elf or dwarf, though. The Inquisitor's race isn't brought up in any flags, and the lines for both male and female Hawke both look for the same flag.

[Ariella]

That is so accurate. I can imagine she would tell Varric next and both of them would tease Cullen about that all the time 

You have nooooo idea... Having Varric, Hawke and Cullen in a conversation is never a good. Well, for Cullen anyway. More outnumbered than he is at the War Table with a female IQ. And they're faster and snarkier too.

[Cantina]

Thank you, Cantina, and CuriousArtemis.

I'll just pretend it is
 

 

Sad is it not?

 

Don't get me wrong, Cullen is the only romance option in the game that I find interesting. Yet while his romance does have a lot of interesting moments it still could have used some polish.

 

What I would have liked added: 

 

*Companions speak about the romance while out roaming the countryside.

 

*Able to give Cullen a gift. Buy a special sword schematic in Val R, craft it and give it to him.

 

*A few more dialogue banters at the War Table.

 

*Cullen's tarot card changes.

 

If they did these things the romance would have been perfect. But alas they did not. Thus I'll keep head-cannoning that the Sparring Ring was a gift to Cullen from my Quizzy.

[Ariella]

Sad is it not?
 
Don't get me wrong, Cullen is the only romance option in the game that I find interesting. Yet while his romance does have a lot of interesting moments it still could have used some polish.
 
What I would have liked added: 
 
*Companions speak about the romance while out roaming the countryside.
 
*Able to give Cullen a gift. Buy a special sword schematic in Val R, craft it and give it to him.
 
*A few more dialogue banters at the War Table.
 
If they did these things the romance would have been perfect. But alas they did not. Thus I'll keep head-cannoning that the Sparring Ring was a gift to Cullen from my Quizzy.

I noticed that both Blackwall and Cullen have gift "quests" where they are the ones giving rather than are given too. Everybody else, unless I'm totally reading things wrong, the IQ is the active giver. Well, Sera but then I think the IQ gives back.

And yes, I wish there'd been more acknowledgement from the companions besides Dorian's "strapping young Templars" comment.

I would have loved to get Cassandra and Varric to say something. And Josie, just because girl talk...

[Tishina]

Soooo totally random, but I just received a completely innocuous email with the subject line: Culinary Master Series... and my brain went to a weird place presumably influenced by the fact that I've been writing Cullen smut today. 

Mine combined the two, smut involving chocolate, whipped cream, and fruit...

 

Hmm, Cullen smut in progress??? When will you be presenting us with this gem? *throws chocolates at R2 as a bribe*

 

Edit: R2 inspiration for top of the page:

 

Spoiler

[fontofnothing]

Ok, just finished a speedrun to Skyhold, and didn't ask Cullen the questions at Haven. I tried speaking to him at Skyhold before meeting Hawke, and then tried after meeting Hawke, and also tried speaking to Varric. Exhausted all of the dialogue there, but the Hawke dialogue still isn't triggering.

[Ariella]

I just came up with something worse for Cullen than Hawke and Varric teasing... Snarky!Hawke and Dorian. I think he'd strip a gear.

Of course I have this wonderful headcanon of Dorian swooping in to rescue the Commander from his 'admirers' at the Winter Palace. By telling lurid and rather graphic tales of what Cullen's SO has done to discourage interest in him ("That one fellow, they didn't find all of his parts, did they? Just the ones strung on the Harbor chains").

Of course never mentioning who she is until she comes walking up behind the unsuspecting admirer.

If anyone is familiar with Sparhawk and David Eddings, I borrowed a little.

[Vanalia]

Sad is it not?

 

Don't get me wrong, Cullen is the only romance option in the game that I find interesting. Yet while his romance does have a lot of interesting moments it still could have used some polish.

 

What I would have liked added: 

 

*Companions speak about the romance while out roaming the countryside.

 

*Able to give Cullen a gift. Buy a special sword schematic in Val R, craft it and give it to him.

 

*A few more dialogue banters at the War Table.

 

*Cullen's tarot card changes.

 

If they did these things the romance would have been perfect. But alas they did not. Thus I'll keep head-cannoning that the Sparring Ring was a gift to Cullen from my Quizzy.

 

Yes I would have liked more party banter about the romance with Cullen, too. The comments from Sera and from Dorian were cool, but I wish there were more!

[Ariella]

Yes I would have liked more party banter about the romance with Cullen, too. The comments from Sera and from Dorian were cool, but I wish there were more!

What does Sera say? I've never gotten that.

[Rascoth]

What does Sera say? I've never gotten that.

It's the one when you ask her about "your people".

"And your Cullen-wullen? Cully-wully? Lots of men under him. Needs a woman over him. Because positions."

[Ariella]

It's the one when you ask her about "your people".
"And your Cullen-wullen? Cully-wully? Lots of men under him. Needs a woman over him. Because positions."

Yet again... drinking and board reading bad.

My daughter justed asked me what I was laughing at... I told her she wouldn't understand:

Mom, am I too young or will it scar my life?

Since it's Sera I told her the latter. I need to work this in somewhere.

[R2s Muse]

Mine combined the two, smut involving chocolate, whipped cream, and fruit...
 
Hmm, Cullen smut in progress??? When will you be presenting us with this gem? *throws chocolates at R2 as a bribe*
 
Edit: R2 inspiration for top of the page:

LOL No chocolate this time. But it's coming together...
 

 

(mellorianj's Greatsword)
 

 

[Ariella]

LOL No chocolate this time. But it's coming together...
 
 
(mellorianj's Greatsword)
 
 

Okay, the greatsword is pretty, but... Buffy and Angel tai chi!

I really want to see this. That and I need something to kick the writer's block.