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[aisyla]

I want to see Cullen strokes inky's hair while those two are gazing up at the stars..His ceiling would be perfect for this.

[R2s Muse]

Okay, the greatsword is pretty, but... Buffy and Angel tai chi!

I really want to see this. That and I need something to kick the writer's block.

LOL If the breaking of *my* writer's block can help someone else's, then there is a god! Currently trying to decide where to break chapter now that I'm at over 6000 words. Baby steps. 

[Ariella]

LOL If the breaking of *my* writer's block can help someone else's, then there is a god! Currently trying to decide where to break chapter now that I'm at over 6000 words. Baby steps.

Understood. Right now I'm writing the thing I hate most: fight sequence. What I know about martial combat, I could inscribe on the head of a pin. Worse this is the chapter with a major Aha! moment, but I need to get through the blessed fight sequence to get there.

I never used to write fics this long. Nice little episodic Angel fics. No more than five parts...

Worse is in the back of my rather twisted head I've got a Cullen and Dorian buddy comedy brewing... Just shoot me

[DaiyoukaiGeisha]

Woo hooo!! I'll take all the blame! muwahahahahahaha! Cullen x Hawke OTP 5eva!!

 

[Tishina]

Understood. Right now I'm writing the thing I hate most: fight sequence. What I know about martial combat, I could inscribe on the head of a pin. Worse this is the chapter with a major Aha! moment, but I need to get through the blessed fight sequence to get there.

I never used to write fics this long. Nice little episodic Angel fics. No more than five parts...

Worse is in the back of my rather twisted head I've got a Cullen and Dorian buddy comedy brewing... Just shoot me

Fights I can write. I just tried to describe a dress, and I'm still hoping I didn't leave half the people who read it convinced I'm really a guy    (I had a long running battle as a child with my mother who didn't want me to do anything except wear pretty but horribly uncomfortable -pink lacey crinolined- dresses then insisted all I was allowed to do was sit still so I didn't get them dirty or act like anything except a lady. I still detest pink, lace, and dresses, lol.)

 

Maybe write the "aha!" first, then go back to the fight?

[R2s Muse]

Understood. Right now I'm writing the thing I hate most: fight sequence. What I know about martial combat, I could inscribe on the head of a pin. Worse this is the chapter with a major Aha! moment, but I need to get through the blessed fight sequence to get there.

I never used to write fics this long. Nice little episodic Angel fics. No more than five parts...

Worse is in the back of my rather twisted head I've got a Cullen and Dorian buddy comedy brewing... Just shoot me

Ah, I feel you. Writing fight scenes sucks almost as hard as writing sex scenes for me. Luckily there are sooo many great resources out there on it if you need something technical. I tend to stick to basics so at least *I* can follow what the hell is going on. LOL 

 

How long will it be? 

 

(and I FULLY support Cullen - Dorian brotp story... sorry! )

[R2s Muse]

[R2s Muse]

 

Maybe write the "aha!" first, then go back to the fight?

Mmm, also good advice. I do this sometimes and leave the fight as "They fight." for a while. LOL 

[R2s Muse]

cough

 

[R2s Muse]

groan

 

yes, I've stumbled back through my photobucket today. ah man. the quote has new poignancy now.

[R2s Muse]

Mmm and some new fangledy Cullen as I sign off for the night. 

 

 

http://stonelions.tu...der-becauseidek

[Ariella]

Fights I can write. I just tried to describe a dress, and I'm still hoping I didn't leave half the people who read it convinced I'm really a guy    (I had a long running battle as a child with my mother who didn't want me to do anything except wear pretty but horribly uncomfortable -pink lacey crinolined- dresses then insisted all I was allowed to do was sit still so I didn't get them dirty or act like anything except a lady. I still detest pink, lace, and dresses, lol.)
 
Maybe write the "aha!" first, then go back to the fight?

LOL! Unless it's absolutely needed I tend to go minimalist in descriptions, especially clothing. What I tend to be good at is banter. I can write banter like nobody's business.

And I can sympathize with the clothing. My mother was just... She looked at me funny when I wanted to live in jeans and a tee shirt as soon as I was able to dictate my ow wardrobe. And then there's makeup. I never did truly get the hang of putting that stuff on.

I may try writing that scene first. I tend to write chronologically and never been good at jumping around but it's probably worth overriding my compulsive need to break this block. Thanks.
 

Ah, I feel you. Writing fight scenes sucks almost as hard as writing sex scenes for me. Luckily there are sooo many great resources out there on it if you need something technical. I tend to stick to basics so at least *I* can follow what the hell is going on. LOL 
 
How long will it be? 
 
(and I FULLY support Cullen - Dorian brotp story... sorry! )

I'm basically down to trying to figure out how bad Hawke got wounded at the moment. Obviously not wanting her to bleed out but at the same time there's got to be some threat. I think I'm going to break down and harass the husband, he'll have a better idea than I would about this kind of thing. It's so much easier to write about people with advanced healing factors...

I'm not exactly sure but probably 20 and this is chapter 11. It's pretty much a bunch of vignettes of different periods in DA2 from Cullen's perspective, what he's been doing during the whole thing. Originally it was going to be kinda fluff, but as I got into it, things got a lot darker and I found myself adding original material dealing with him being a templar. Hawke flits in and out as the love interest while he's working.

Right now I'm at the point where Hawke gets attacked by Corypheus' dwarves. Cullen, of course, is there and well, annoying fight scene ensues. The big plot points that I know I need to hit in 9:34 (I'm spreading things out more so all the plot doesn't happen in a single year) are anything with Quentin, which Cullen is directly involved in, Alrik and the Tranquil solution and him finding out about Anders little passenger, plus the Qunari assault. I may stick a sequence with Merrill and the eluvian in there.

After that I go back and play DA2 because Act 3 was my least favorite and most forgettable part of the game.

I enjoy writing sex scenes just for the challenge of balancing word choice. Over flowery drives me nuts. And R2, you do fine .

As for Cullen and Dorian, I know the dynamic but I just cannot think of a situation where they'd be outside of Skyhold without the Inquisitor. Don't need the IQ swooping in to rescue them after all.

Sorry for the ramble...

[Ariella]

Okay, I'm strange. Especially at four am, with no sleep. With that caveat, I thought I'd share the left turn my brain took after discussing smut.

How many times do you think Cullen has gotten a hug between entering training and getting into a relationship with the Inquisitor? Or held someone's hand or the thousand other intimate touches that have nothing to do with sex, but are the building block of human relationships.

He's spent most of his life encased in armor, in a profession that I can't imagine encouraging displays of affection, even in private. Then ten years avoiding any kind of emotional connection. The only place I can see any such thing happening is with his family if he had leave.

So, I'd think simple touch would be a big deal for him. Obviously, it's not something DAI could address. It's not Cullen's story, but it's something to think about.

And this is my deep thought for today. Maybe I'll be able to sleep now.

[R2s Muse]

Okay, I'm strange. Especially at four am, with no sleep. With that caveat, I thought I'd share the left turn my brain took after discussing smut.

How many times do you think Cullen has gotten a hug between entering training and getting into a relationship with the Inquisitor? Or held someone's hand or the thousand other intimate touches that have nothing to do with sex, but are the building block of human relationships.

He's spent most of his life encased in armor, in a profession that I can't imagine encouraging displays of affection, even in private. Then ten years avoiding any kind of emotional connection. The only place I can see any such thing happening is with his family if he had leave.

So, I'd think simple touch would be a big deal for him. Obviously, it's not something DAI could address. It's not Cullen's story, but it's something to think about.

And this is my deep thought for today. Maybe I'll be able to sleep now.

I agree that regular affection is probably rare for him. I've imagined some scenarios for different kinds of more intimate relationships he plausibly could have had over those years, tho, which could have filled that bucket for him. I'm of the opinion that's he not a virgin, for example, which opens up some opportunities that could be shallow or slightly deeper in terms of affection. But evenso, I personally imagine that part of what can be special about those opportunities is how rare they may have been for him. Neither Meredith nor Greagoir seem like 'attaboy' kinds of mentors.

 

But one thing we've talked about in the thread is in a similar vein, how some of the basic experiences are probably very limited in some ways (esp back when we used to think he had no family). Like, how encountering an orange could be a truly exotic experience. This little story about his upbringing is one I've always liked: Fledglings by CJK

[R2s Muse]

LOL! Unless it's absolutely needed I tend to go minimalist in descriptions, especially clothing. What I tend to be good at is banter. I can write banter like nobody's business.

And I can sympathize with the clothing. My mother was just... She looked at me funny when I wanted to live in jeans and a tee shirt as soon as I was able to dictate my ow wardrobe. And then there's makeup. I never did truly get the hang of putting that stuff on.

I may try writing that scene first. I tend to write chronologically and never been good at jumping around but it's probably worth overriding my compulsive need to break this block. Thanks.
 

I'm basically down to trying to figure out how bad Hawke got wounded at the moment. Obviously not wanting her to bleed out but at the same time there's got to be some threat. I think I'm going to break down and harass the husband, he'll have a better idea than I would about this kind of thing. It's so much easier to write about people with advanced healing factors...

I'm not exactly sure but probably 20 and this is chapter 11. It's pretty much a bunch of vignettes of different periods in DA2 from Cullen's perspective, what he's been doing during the whole thing. Originally it was going to be kinda fluff, but as I got into it, things got a lot darker and I found myself adding original material dealing with him being a templar. Hawke flits in and out as the love interest while he's working.

Right now I'm at the point where Hawke gets attacked by Corypheus' dwarves. Cullen, of course, is there and well, annoying fight scene ensues. The big plot points that I know I need to hit in 9:34 (I'm spreading things out more so all the plot doesn't happen in a single year) are anything with Quentin, which Cullen is directly involved in, Alrik and the Tranquil solution and him finding out about Anders little passenger, plus the Qunari assault. I may stick a sequence with Merrill and the eluvian in there.

After that I go back and play DA2 because Act 3 was my least favorite and most forgettable part of the game.

I enjoy writing sex scenes just for the challenge of balancing word choice. Over flowery drives me nuts. And R2, you do fine .

As for Cullen and Dorian, I know the dynamic but I just cannot think of a situation where they'd be outside of Skyhold without the Inquisitor. Don't need the IQ swooping in to rescue them after all.

Sorry for the ramble...

Ah, I'm on my way out, but on bleeding out... something I'm always struck by reading the DA books vs the game is  how fragile real people are. So IMHO I don't think your character needs to be hurt to much to probably be in a really bad way. Healing magic is of course the convenient bandaid for later on, but in the immediate term, I don't think it really takes too much. Real life Hawke is not walking away from being skewered by the Arishok, for example. 

 

Anyhoo, this ends 6am deepthoughs by R2s Muse.

[Tishina]

Okay, I'm strange. Especially at four am, with no sleep. With that caveat, I thought I'd share the left turn my brain took after discussing smut.

How many times do you think Cullen has gotten a hug between entering training and getting into a relationship with the Inquisitor? Or held someone's hand or the thousand other intimate touches that have nothing to do with sex, but are the building block of human relationships.

He's spent most of his life encased in armor, in a profession that I can't imagine encouraging displays of affection, even in private. Then ten years avoiding any kind of emotional connection. The only place I can see any such thing happening is with his family if he had leave.

So, I'd think simple touch would be a big deal for him. Obviously, it's not something DAI could address. It's not Cullen's story, but it's something to think about.

And this is my deep thought for today. Maybe I'll be able to sleep now.

I'm with R2 on a lot of it. But it's a bit of a balancing act because we now have the sense of a very warm, loving family when he was growing up, so he probably did grow up with a certain amount of physical displays of affection. So he probably isn't someone completely starved for touch or frightened of it because he or she had never experienced non-threatening affectionate touch.

 

I think life in the Templars, however, is open to headcannon - what you describe could very easily be the case and makes a believable story. But also remember Alistair talked about pillow fights while he was in training... And you only have to look at American football players with their socially acceptable forms of affection - slapping on the shoulder and hugs (even if they're slamming into each other) to have a model for a certain bonding-type of non-sexual physical contact. I always imagined fellow Templars getting a young Templar drunk in their barracks the night after they experienced their first failed Harrowing, complete with sympathetic slaps on the shoulder and refilling his or her mug. After all, these are men (and women in Kirkwall) who are completely dependent on each other in a crisis, etc. (it isn't uncommon in military units either.)

 

However, just holding hands or sitting with your arms around someone or even covering someone's hand lightly with yours or resting your hand on their arm, those are intimate in a more personal way that suggest a different kind of relationship from social bonding, even if it isn't romantic. Think awkward Aveline coming to see Hawke after her mother died and sitting with her arm around Hawke's shoulders. While there are probably Templars who develop those sorts of friendships, I kind of imagine Cullen's never experienced that outside his family when he was a child because he seems to have been driven from an early age and I think we've all agreed that he's an introvert. But even more, I'd imagine being an outsider in Kirkwall then promoted so young to Knight-Captain would have isolated him while his torture obviously left a mark of its own.

 

So lots of room for a spectrum of reactions.

[Rascoth]

All this talk about ships and everything got me thinking about my canon world state. I already have no romance Warden. Maybe I should make my Hawke and Inquisitor no romance as well. Then I could...

...pretty much anything I want. At least about romances.

 

Eh.

Unfortunately I have time to think about it. I really hope not too much time.

 

Edit: Hmnm... ToP. Since I'm replaying DA2 right now...

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[R2s Muse]

I'm with R2 on a lot of it. But it's a bit of a balancing act because we now have the sense of a very warm, loving family when he was growing up, so he probably did grow up with a certain amount of physical displays of affection. So he probably isn't someone completely starved for touch or frightened of it because he or she had never experienced non-threatening affectionate touch.

I think life in the Templars, however, is open to headcannon - what you describe could very easily be the case and makes a believable story. But also remember Alistair talked about pillow fights while he was in training... And you only have to look at American football players with their socially acceptable forms of affection - slapping on the shoulder and hugs (even if they're slamming into each other) to have a model for a certain bonding-type of non-sexual physical contact. I always imagined fellow Templars getting a young Templar drunk in their barracks the night after they experienced their first failed Harrowing, complete with sympathetic slaps on the shoulder and refilling his or her mug. After all, these are men (and women in Kirkwall) who are completely dependent on each other in a crisis, etc. (it isn't uncommon in military units either.)

However, just holding hands or sitting with your arms around someone or even covering someone's hand lightly with yours or resting your hand on their arm, those are intimate in a more personal way that suggest a different kind of relationship from social bonding, even if it isn't romantic. Think awkward Aveline coming to see Hawke after her mother died and sitting with her arm around Hawke's shoulders. While there are probably Templars who develop those sorts of friendships, I kind of imagine Cullen's never experienced that outside his family when he was a child because he seems to have been driven from an early age and I think we've all agreed that he's an introvert. But even more, I'd imagine being an outsider in Kirkwall then promoted so young to Knight-Captain would have isolated him while his torture obviously left a mark of its own.

So lots of room for a spectrum of reactions.

Yes, his loving family upbringing is a whole new dimension now, eh? His gruffness toward Mia and poor correspondence skills could be interpreted as him still being more reserved in the physical displays of affection arena. Hard to say.

As you know, I also subscribe to the notion that he was very isolated while in Kirkwall. Young. Fereldan. Precipitously promoted. I headcanon that some of his isolation was also self imposed due to survivor's guilt, from his companion Templars as well as his family. I could plausibly see some of that manifesting itself in terms of physical connection, too.

[CuriousArtemis]

I enjoy writing sex scenes just for the challenge of balancing word choice. Over flowery drives me nuts. And R2, you do fine .

As for Cullen and Dorian, I know the dynamic but I just cannot think of a situation where they'd be outside of Skyhold without the Inquisitor. Don't need the IQ swooping in to rescue them after all.

Sorry for the ramble...

 

No one should apologize for that in this thread

 

As for Cullen and Dorian, if you ship them there are plenty of reasons to imagine them being together without the inquisitor xDDD Wish I were back in my fanfic writing hay day (no idea how to spell that) b/c I'd surely whip up a few quick Cullrian fics. Oh well they had to settle for being background couple along with Cassarric in my Solavellan fic.

 

Regarding sex scenes, they are my least favorite. I have written too many and they've lost all the charm and magic for me. I am tired of them... I struggle to find new ways to write things I've already written. My favorite, like you, is dialogue/banter. But I also think I have a handle on action! I can write good action (fighting, etc.). I dislike exposition/scene changes, but I don't think I'm too bad at them. But not my strong point at all.

 

 

How many times do you think Cullen has gotten a hug between entering training and getting into a relationship with the Inquisitor? Or held someone's hand or the thousand other intimate touches that have nothing to do with sex, but are the building block of human relationships.

 

Well this would depend on the person. Some don't like physical touch, others crave it. I think Cullen would be someone who enjoys it, even with his friends and family. And I agree with R2 (below) that he didn't let himself get too close to anyone friendship-wise during Kirkwall. I headcanon that he was friends with the higher ranking templars in Kirkwall the way you're often friends with your work colleagues, but that's it. I wrote a fic where he and Moira went out drinking together; I feel that's the extent of his socialization in Kirkwall. As for intimacy, I also headcanon that he didn't have any meaningful relationships; I generally don't think about sex much so it's kind of a maybe he did/maybe he didn't situation for me, I don't really think about it or care. 

 

I agree that regular affection is probably rare for him. I've imagined some scenarios for different kinds of more intimate relationships he plausibly could have had over those years, tho, which could have filled that bucket for him. I'm of the opinion that's he not a virgin, for example, which opens up some opportunities that could be shallow or slightly deeper in terms of affection. 

 

Yes I also headcanon he's not a virgin; it seems unrealistic and just too 40 Year Old Virgin (even though he's 30ish) and I'd rather a romance instead of a comedy But let's remember he was a younger man once, a hot shot young templar back in Ferelden. I'm sure fun times were had.

 

All this talk about ships and everything got me thinking about my canon world state. I already have no romance Warden. Maybe I should make my Hawke and Inquisitor no romance as well. Then I could...

 

...pretty much anything I want. At least about romances.

 

I believe I've settled on making my Alin Lavellan a "no romance" (despite the Keep saying he romanced Bull WTF THIS STILL CONFUSES ME ) and headcanoning Solavellan. How many people here headcanoned Cullen x Hawke (Cawke... sorry, I had to); it is doable!

 

As you know, I also subscribe to the notion that he was very isolated while in Kirkwall. Young. Fereldan. Precipitously promoted. I headcanon that some of his isolation was also self imposed due to survivor's guilt, from his companion Templars as well as his family. I could plausibly see some of that manifesting itself in terms of physical connection, too.

 

I'm getting wee 20-something Cullen feels ;_;;;;

[Lavinia verch Llywarch]

Hullo. New here. So happy to see all the Cullen love.

 

<<sees all the... uh... Cullen love, drops mead glass, dies happy>>

 

Oh, Maker...!

[R2s Muse]

Hullo. New here. So happy to see all the Cullen love.

<<sees all the... uh... Cullen love, drops mead glass, dies happy>>

Oh, Maker...!

Welcome!

[Lavinia verch Llywarch]

Welcome!

 

Happy to be here!

 

And to make the joke about being all sticky. From the mead. And all the Cullen love. Heh.

[robertmarilyn]

I believe I've settled on making my Alin Lavellan a "no romance" (despite the Keep saying he romanced Bull WTF THIS STILL CONFUSES ME ) and headcanoning Solavellan. How many people here headcanoned Cullen x Hawke (Cawke... sorry, I had to); it is doable!

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I will NEVER romance Bull and I'd be upset if the Keep said I did.           

 

I headcanon Cullen and female Hawke  

[Sifr]

Yet again... drinking and board reading bad.

My daughter justed asked me what I was laughing at... I told her she wouldn't understand:

Mom, am I too young or will it scar my life?

Since it's Sera I told her the latter. I need to work this in somewhere.

 

It's not like Inky isn't as filthy-minded as Sera at times... she did after all let it slip to her that Cullen's desk is "definitely sturdy".

 

[CuriousArtemis]

I will NEVER romance Bull and I'd be upset if the Keep said I did.           

 

I used a mod to romance Solas and for that the Keep chastised me by saying he romanced Bull Nothing against Bull-mancers; I did romance him but twas not my cup of tea, but truly nothing against him. But yeah