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Indy is probably the only one I haven't actually written about in some form, but he gets the honor because he pretty much formed my taste in men. Snarky as hell :)

Bruce hasn't been written about as Batman, but I borrowed some things from Christian Bale's performance in Batman Begins and Dark Knight for an original work... plus I needed a look. :)
 
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I'm sure Julian's pleased to here that :).

And how much did Johnny blab, anyway?

LOL I have a list of muses myself, but I've only ever written fanfic about dragon age. I'm a bit of a late bloomer that way. :blush: But Indy def makes the list! 
 
On Jonny, he's just notoriously indiscreet since he doesn't seem to know what is and isn't a spoiler. Back before anything was announced at all about DA3, we on the Cullen thread asked him if Cullen would return... and he told us that he had just done a VA session! Back in 2012! He then immediately deleted the tweet. Whoops.  Then once he got chatty about DA:I, he let slip that Cullen was a LI, for example. But as of that point, he'd never even played the game, so folks would ask him questions and he wouldn't even understand the context. 
 
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So a "muse" is a character that you like to write about? I see that on Tumblr all the time, mostly for ask memes. "Ask me about my muse" and such. I wasn't sure what they were talking about until now :lol:


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So a "muse" is a character that you like to write about? I see that on Tumblr all the time, mostly for ask memes. "Ask me about my muse" and such. I wasn't sure what they were talking about until now :lol:

Realistically, what I have is a list of fictional crushes. My only real muse, in the "inspires me to do stuff" sense, has been Cullen, as evidenced by my body of creative work to date. LOL WIth, I suppose, a dash of Princess Leia and Solas. 


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LOL I have a list of muses myself, but I've only ever written fanfic about dragon age. I'm a bit of a late bloomer that way. :blush: But Indy def makes the list! 
 
On Jonny, he's just notoriously indiscreet since he doesn't seem to know what is and isn't a spoiler. Back before anything was announced at all about DA3, we on the Cullen thread asked him if Cullen would return... and he told us that he had just done a VA session! Back in 2012! He then immediately deleted the tweet. Whoops.  Then once he got chatty about DA:I, he let slip that Cullen was a LI, for example. But as of that point, he'd never even played the game, so folks would ask him questions and he wouldn't even understand the context.


Not a late bloomer at all. It's just a case of finding a fandom or character that inspires and enjoying writing.

I just happened to stumble into several of them, sometimes overlapping.

Oh dear... Chatty fellow, hmm? I followed him on twitter for a bit before I stopped because I was doing WAY too much social media, and not enough writing. But he seems like a sweetie.

I saw someone say he changed his name back to Johnny Rees from Greg Ellis, which made me wonder if he's related to Rodger Rees who just passed away recently.

So a "muse" is a character that you like to write about? I see that on Tumblr all the time, mostly for ask memes. "Ask me about my muse" and such. I wasn't sure what they were talking about until now :lol:


I actually didn't know about those memes. That's funny :). Mine's just something of a running gag that came from when I first started writing. The listserv I started on had its own running gag about cabana boys and girls (which of course were clones of the characters) running around the list fetching drinks etc. It was a silly joke but we all got a good laugh out of it.

I imported that to my next fandom and they evolved into the muse choir, who's pub crawls cause my blockage.

Of course the best personification of the muses I have ever seen still goes (as painful as it is sometimes to say) to Disney. The muses as a Baptist choir just rocked. That whole movie was actually really good.

Now, back to semi topic. I'm staring at an elf playthrough. I'm debating romancing Solas, which I have not done. However, I am wondering if this will be good for my mental health. Or should I stick with our boy?
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Realistically, what I have is a list of fictional crushes. My only real muse, in the "inspires me to do stuff" sense, has been Cullen, as evidenced by my body of creative work to date. LOL WIth, I suppose, a dash of Princess Leia and Solas. 

 

I think for fanfiction I get inspired by couples, not single characters. Probably why I am so stubborn about OTPs; I could never even imagine writing one character paired up with someone other than their "proper" partner (according to my head lol)

 

Though I'm new to the world of video game fanfiction... what with the player character always being different, I can get a better handle on different pairings than I normally would. So I can romance Cullen and yet also enjoy Cullrian stuff or any of the other romantic pairings I enjoy seeing Cullen a part of. AND I just realized for the first time I've written it, too! I've written Cullen x Lavellan and yet also had hinted Cullrian in my Solavellan fic. Wow that's a first for me!

 

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Now, back to semi topic. I'm staring at an elf playthrough. I'm debating romancing Solas, which I have not done. However, I am wondering if this will be good for my mental health. Or should I stick with our boy?

 

Oh I didn't see this.

 

I absolutely recommend romancing Solas. The game becomes so much more intense and honestly, it just... flowed better. The final romance scene with Solas is eye-opening (and I don't feel should have been restricted to romanced Lavellans; it's that important). Does it have a sad ending, sure, so I recommend playing it when you're in a pretty positive mood so you can enjoy the aesthetic qualities of the relationship and how it relates to the story. 

 

It's just, you know how romances often seem "tacked on" in these games? Even your favorites... this one isn't. It threads its way through the core of the story. It's a must play.


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Oh I didn't see this.
 
I absolutely recommend romancing Solas. The game becomes so much more intense and honestly, it just... flowed better. The final romance scene with Solas is eye-opening (and I don't feel should have been restricted to romanced Lavellans; it's that important). Does it have a sad ending, sure, so I recommend playing it when you're in a pretty positive mood so you can enjoy the aesthetic qualities of the relationship and how it relates to the story. 
 
It's just, you know how romances often seem "tacked on" in these games? Even your favorites... this one isn't. It threads its way through the core of the story. It's a must play.


I've gotten as far as kissing him in the Fade, and then I walk into Cullen's office and that heartbreaking admission about him no longer taking lyrium... I'm weak, I'm terribly terribly weak. Of course this playthrough is new (haven't even hit the Temple yet new) so we'll see if MY willpower holds out.

Cullen never seemed tacked on to me, and I haven't played any of the others in DAI. I guess that's because I've been watching Cullen "grow up" through the games that what he's going through seems a natural extension of everything. And while this is just me, it feels like he's come full circle, especially if you're playing a mage.

But I will try... Maybe if I keep telling myself it'll make Solas easier to write. Motivation wise. I still can't write Iambic worth a damn.
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Well my recommendation was not a condemnation of the Cullen romance, which I haven't even played...

 

You would be hard-pressed to find a bigger Hawke x Fenris fan than me, but the truth is that you can easily play the entire game without ever even recruiting Fenris let alone romancing him and nothing changes. His inclusion adds "flavor" to the story but it isn't exactly woven throughout.

 

But Solas is a different kind of romance. It would be like romancing Loghain or Mereidth... not that I would want to lol and NOT that I'm saying Solas is a villain. But Solas IS the story of Dragon Age, so when you romance him it's like romancing the actual story. Hard to put it into words. 


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Now, back to semi topic. I'm staring at an elf playthrough. I'm debating romancing Solas, which I have not done. However, I am wondering if this will be good for my mental health. Or should I stick with our boy?

Romancing Solas has its pros and cons, depending on what's important to you. Agree with CA that Solas's romance is more central to the story, but it's also pretty slim in content compared with Cullen. No woo breaks, for example. Fewer cut scenes. If your approval is too high, you will get fewer of his stories when you visit him. You don't lock in the romance until almost the end. I ended up skipping a lot of side content just to get the romance moving along, because it was a  bit of a desert at times. But is it worth it??  OMFG YESSSSS!! It's worth it just to SEE and play through Trespasser, and if you're writing Solas, Solavellan hell is an important vantage point. For science. And hope. And epic tragedy. And glorious glorious suffering. <3

 

(edit: Plus, it's pretty easy to imagine Cullen is still in love with you, even if you go with Solas, which means... OPTIONS. ahem)


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Well my recommendation was not a condemnation of the Cullen romance, which I haven't even played...
 
You would be hard-pressed to find a bigger Hawke x Fenris fan than me, but the truth is that you can easily play the entire game without ever even recruiting Fenris let alone romancing him and nothing changes. His inclusion adds "flavor" to the story but it isn't exactly woven throughout.
 
But Solas is a different kind of romance. It would be like romancing Loghain or Mereidth... not that I would want to lol and NOT that I'm saying Solas is a villain. But Solas IS the story of Dragon Age, so when you romance him it's like romancing the actual story. Hard to put it into words.


Never considering it a criticism, trust me :). I was just making an observation about Cullen's romance, and the fact is, considering his and Solas' romances could be considered "tacked on" due to being added last, it's kind of funny they're generating the most buzz.

I understand what you're talking about. He's a central thread of the DA story and it's a layer deeper than any of the others to date.

I suppose you could kind of say that about Anders as well, or could if they'd been given more time. Gah, I need to win the lottery and then go to Bioware and dump money on them to remaster DA2.

I've been playing through Hawke X Fenris, and it's actually sweet. I haven't hit the finish yet but I'm liking him more and more.

Romancing Solas has its pros and cons, depending on what's important to you. Agree with CA that Solas's romance is more central to the story, but it's also pretty slim in content compared with Cullen. No woo breaks, for example. Fewer cut scenes. If your approval is too high, you will get fewer of his stories when you visit him. You don't lock in the romance until almost the end. I ended up skipping a lot of side content just to get the romance moving along, because it was a  bit of a desert at times. But is it worth it??  OMFG YESSSSS!! It's worth it just to SEE and play through Trespasser, and if you're writing Solas, Solavellan hell is an important vantage point. For science. And hope. And epic tragedy. And glorious glorious suffering. <3
 
(edit: Plus, it's pretty easy to imagine Cullen is still in love with you, even if you go with Solas, which means... OPTIONS. ahem)


It sounds like I might need ativan during the process; I will have to take that into account. It also almost sounds like it might make more sense to recruit the templars on the playthrough. I'd do fair weather friends, but I'm not sure my heart could take it.

I admit there's one story of his that had me jumping up and down my first playthrough... the hut in the Korcari Wilds. I was bouncing on my toes even before the end credits scene. And with the end credits scene, my brain just blew up at that point.

Writing Solas has been interesting, especially since I'm doing the Hawke as Inquisitor shtick, which unfortunately isn't something I can pick up much reference on, unlike say Hawke and Cullen.

Glorious glorious suffering? I swore when Marcus got dumped into that refrigerator tube I wouldn't do that to myself again, and then when Angel's "moment of true happiness" came between him and Buffy. Aww, what the hell?

On a more serious note, the lock happens after he takes you out and tells you about the tattoos?
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Glorious glorious suffering? I swore when Marcus got dumped into that refrigerator tube I wouldn't do that to myself again, and then when Angel's "moment of true happiness" came between him and Buffy. Aww, what the hell?

On a more serious note, the lock happens after he takes you out and tells you about the tattoos?

Sigh. Yeah, it's like that. Like Angel getting his soul back a second before Buffy has to kill him anyway (:whimper:). Exactly like that. Delicious and horrible. But hopeful. <3

 

On the lock, yes, you lock in the romance during The Scene. So you still have a chance to break up with Solas before that scene and go snog Cullen instead as a ... bracing measure before reloading and goin' in. :)  But after, you're officially locked into a busted romance. :sob:


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Kinda late to the party, but I highly recommend the Solas romance if you can deal with the very sparse actual romance content and the angst. I don't normally like tragic playthroughs either.


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after playing another *cough* Cullen romance I was wondering ... how do the Templars really take their Lyrium? Cullen's kit is extensive and here I thought they take some kind of potion. 

 

has this been discussed before? Sorry if yes I'm really curious here ... 

 

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after playing another *cough* Cullen romance I was wondering ... how do the Templars really take their Lyrium? Cullen's kit is extensive and here I thought they take some kind of potion. 
 
has this been discussed before? Sorry if yes I'm really curious here ... 
 
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I don't know if it's been asked before, but I figure I'll take a crack at answering. With the caveat I may be completely off base.

If you play through CoJ, the Templars there seem to take it straight up, though that may be in an emergency.

We've seen in DAO and DA2, lyrium comes in a powder so I assume it's mixed with something else. Most likely wine. What's in the philter looks like measuring instruments for that purpose.

I'm not sure if the vial is final product of a mix or just the powder. And that's about the sum total of my knowledge on the subject. Hope it helps though.
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So a "muse" is a character that you like to write about? I see that on Tumblr all the time, mostly for ask memes. "Ask me about my muse" and such. I wasn't sure what they were talking about until now :lol:

In Ancient Greek mythology, the muses are the goddesses of inspiration in science and art. So artists who feel inspired may talk about "taking dictation from their muse" or something along those lines.


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I don't know if it's been asked before, but I figure I'll take a crack at answering. With the caveat I may be completely off base.

If you play through CoJ, the Templars there seem to take it straight up, though that may be in an emergency.

We've seen in DAO and DA2, lyrium comes in a powder so I assume it's mixed with something else. Most likely wine. What's in the philter looks like measuring instruments for that purpose.

I'm not sure if the vial is final product of a mix or just the powder. And that's about the sum total of my knowledge on the subject. Hope it helps though.

Yeah, this seems to be the general consensus, that he has to mix already refined lyrium powder into an actual libation that he then drinks.

 

Frankly, I find it interesting that he gets to mix it himself, since it makes it seem very Do It Yourself when Knight-Captain Evangeline's supply in Asunder was strictly monitored and sparingly dispensed.  Moreover, it allows for error when I would expect the proportions would also be strictly controlled. Altho I suppose that as a Knight-Commander/Commander, he gets to be in charge of his own drugs now. And, I guess folks out 'in the field' like he is would have to just mix it themselves. Hmm. 'Tis interesting!



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In Ancient Greek mythology, the muses are the goddesses of inspiration in science and art. So artists who feel inspired may talk about "taking dictation from their muse" or something along those lines.

LOL I think CuriousArtemis, our resident English professor, was asking more how the fandom uses the word, since it seems rather unevenly applied.  :P


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Yeah, this seems to be the general consensus, that he has to mix already refined lyrium powder into an actual libation that he then drinks.

 

Frankly, I find it interesting that he gets to mix it himself, since it makes it seem very Do It Yourself when Knight-Captain Evangeline's supply in Asunder was strictly monitored and sparingly dispensed.  Moreover, it allows for error when I would expect the proportions would also be strictly controlled. Altho I suppose that as a Knight-Commander/Commander, he gets to be in charge of his own drugs now. And, I guess folks out 'in the field' like he is would have to just mix it themselves. Hmm. 'Tis interesting!

Possibly a kit supplied by Cassandra when they first recruited him, to give him the choice or taper off slowly? Though it seems most likely that he was the one in control of the supply in Kirkwall after the end of DA2 and before he was recruited and he kept the kit for preparing it. There seem to be suggestions that there's some difference in how theirs is prepared, but the devs seem to have an interesting relationship with lyrium :P


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Possibly a kit supplied by Cassandra when they first recruited him, to give him the choice or taper off slowly? Though it seems most likely that he was the one in control of the supply in Kirkwall after the end of DA2 and before he was recruited and he kept the kit for preparing it. There seem to be suggestions that there's some difference in how theirs is prepared, but the devs seem to have an interesting relationship with lyrium :P


The specialization quest for templar has you construct one of theses philters from broken ones you get off templar dead (for some reason they drop like crazy but wisp essence is... well it's another topic).

Since we don't really seem to know how much is needed, or I don't since I haven't read Asunder, I'm thinking that vial is expected to last several days.
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Bwahahahaha muahahahaha can't breathe... 

 

Jim cosplay!!! :lol: :lol:

 

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Bwahahahaha muahahahaha can't breathe... 

 

Jim cosplay!!! :lol: :lol:

 

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I saw that! I think Jim has just been voted the best known unnamed background NPC in DAI :lol: :P

I wonder if the VA actually follows the game...


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The specialization quest for templar has you construct one of theses philters from broken ones you get off templar dead (for some reason they drop like crazy but wisp essence is... well it's another topic).

Since we don't really seem to know how much is needed, or I don't since I haven't read Asunder, I'm thinking that vial is expected to last several days.

Depends on whether the vials are the same as in Asunder (which I would assume they are prob standard issue), but Evangeline, as Knight-Captain, was given, I want to say someone estimated, 2 for a week. IIRC, tho, the book isn't very specific about how long she was away from the Circle. I'd have to go back again since my memory isn't strong. But she does say that after a week without she would start to see the effects, and in a month, maybe two, she'd go insane. 



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Depends on whether the vials are the same as in Asunder (which I would assume they are prob standard issue), but Evangeline, as Knight-Captain, was given, I want to say someone estimated, 2 for a week. IIRC, tho, the book isn't very specific about how long she was away from the Circle. I'd have to go back again since my memory isn't strong. But she does say that after a week without she would start to see the effects, and in a month, maybe two, she'd go insane.


Well, when you go get the lyrium (which I almost called lithium for a moment) stores in CoJ, the container is the the same shape but huge by comparison and the implication is that it's the last of the untainted stores. And it is enough to get the job done and let you get to Envy.

And insanity after a month? Okay, what does that say about our boy? I knew Cullen was pigheaded strong willed, but damn.

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I was wondering about the spoon, the knife thing and the 2 stabbedy looking things xD all to measure? So is lyrium dust in the yellowish container? If yes what is in the brown one?

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In Ancient Greek mythology, the muses are the goddesses of inspiration in science and art. So artists who feel inspired may talk about "taking dictation from their muse" or something along those lines.

 

LOL I think CuriousArtemis, our resident English professor, was asking more how the fandom uses the word, since it seems rather unevenly applied.  :P

 

Hahaha yeah xDDD But thank you, LorenzEffect! So, yeah, I'm familiar with the original definition, but I have just seen on Tumblr a lot, ask memes like, "Put a number in my inbox and I'll answer in the voice of my muse." or something like that. I actually had been thinking, but a muse is a goddess, are you answering as a goddess?? But then they will answer as, say, their inquisitor. Like their inquisitor is their muse? But some folks here were calling other characters, like Cullen or Alistair, their muse. 

 

I guess it can be used in a multitude of ways.


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