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[HuldraDancer]

...and you are a man? I'm sorry if I'm being dense. I know lots of men and woman who like Cullen as a character. Is it not manly to do so? There are some harmful stereotypes out there about any Cullen fan being a ravening fangirl, so it's something we're generally careful of.

 

No I apologize for any confusion I was agreeing with the other poster about feeling some frustration about ending up liking Cullen, for me personally it has nothing to do with being manly or anything and more of 'I've been so indifferent to this character before I must continue to be so to be a cool kid to no one but myself' kind of thing. I have very weird misplaced pride. I tend to be in a state of confusion and fear when my opinions change.

[HuldraDancer]

I assume it's rather than being a casual fan of Cullen's they've got a bit of a swooning crush on him that they aren't accustomed to? 

 

Yes this is exactly what is it for me. I'm not used to liking him and joking with friends who do like him so actually liking is new and scary and must be met with how I deal with things/show affection. Poorly.

[CuriousArtemis]

I think there is a definite stigma against liking Cullen. It's akin to the stigma against liking yaoi/BL/slash. Both are "womanly" interests, or should I say "girlish." Fans of such characters/genres are portrayed as silly, sex-crazed, fetishists, overly emotional, etc. Any "thing" with a majority female fan base tends to be discounted. That's just my guess and observation (which may not be totally right lol).

 

Regardless, welcome new fans A big reason for why I came to be a huge Cullen fan IS the actual fandom; the people are so awesome and so accepting. Not every fandom can say that... I know, I had to leave a few (and in fact I had gotten so fed up with the hatred and vitriol spewed in another character thread that I ran away to this one, and voila, four years later, here I still am!)

[Fadburger]

I think there is a definite stigma against liking Cullen. It's akin to the stigma against liking yaoi/BL/slash. Both are "womanly" interests, or should I say "girlish." Fans of such characters/genres are portrayed as silly, sex-crazed, fetishists, overly emotional, etc. Any "thing" with a majority female fan base tends to be discounted. That's just my guess and observation (which may not be totally right lol).

 

Regardless, welcome new fans A big reason for why I came to be a huge Cullen fan IS the actual fandom; the people are so awesome and so accepting. Not every fandom can say that... I know, I had to leave a few (and in fact I had gotten so fed up with the hatred and vitriol spewed in another character thread that I ran away to this one, and voila, four years later, here I still am!)

 

No you are correct, there is definitely a "thing" in our culture that makes anything that women stereotypically like "lesser". This is especially true (and recorded) in regards to things teenage girls like (such as boy bands etc.). A REALLY good example of this phenomena is the "basic b****" thing, that liking typically feminine things is bad and should be ridiculed. 

 

I'm new to Cullen, Dragon Age and even Bioware (I got into Mass Effect in June or July and I have not stopped playing/obsessing over these titles lol) but so far everybody has been really great. I am sure there are terrible fans around but I've been lucky enough to avoid them. I have definitely gotten sick of other fandoms in the past thanks to other "fan" behaviors but thankfully that's not been the case here...

[CuriousArtemis]

No you are correct, there is definitely a "thing" in our culture that makes anything that women stereotypically like "lesser". This is especially true (and recorded) in regards to things teenage girls like (such as boy bands etc.). A REALLY good example of this phenomena is the "basic b****" thing, that liking typically feminine things is bad and should be ridiculed. 

 

Too right, look at all the hatred spewed towards bands like One Direction; they're not my cup of tea at all, and in fact even as a child I never got into boy bands (New Kids On The Block were popular when I was a wee one haha) but there is soooooo much hatred spewed towards this seemingly innocent and nicely put together boy band... what on earth do they do that's so darn offensive? They have cute catchy tunes and they're nice to look at.... OH and they have hordes of screaming fangirls. Sigh.

 

And ohhhhhhh Mass Effect ♥ I actually love it more than Dragon Age, although my favorite romance is from Dragon Age (Fenris). The story just blows me away from start to finish. I know better than to hope for something similar for ME:A; I made a similar mistake in hoping for something like DA2 (which I loved) for DA:I and even despite all the warning signs I didn't listen and hence got my hopes crushed to dust lol NEVER AGAIN.

[Cerulione]

Bwahahahaha!

 

I'm also a round-about Cullen fan. I was fascinated with the character and his changes over time, but was pretty meh on him as a potential romance... Actually, I think the late converts need a club

 

triaelf9 does some lovely retelling of the story with her comics of her Celyse and Cullen, and yeah, Celyse as an unrepentantly strong badass is one of the reasons I love following them.

 

Funnily, what I personally find remarkable with Celyse is actually her ability (or Elaine/tria's) ability to take everything light heartedly and keep her warmth. There's something admirable in characters who stays courageous and kind and warmhearted after all that happen. It takes a lot of courage to stay kind and courageous and keep smiling when the world is very cruel to you.

[Sifr]

Thank you. Though I'm still trying to figure out what's so unmanly about being enthusiastic about a character either? (or why enthusiasm is gendered at all, )

 

Exactly, it's odd that there's an automatic assumption that all Cullen fans have to be female.

 

No-one would ever dare to suggest that one must be gay or a lesbian to enjoy Dorian or Sera's characters or romances, so why is there a stigma attached to Cullen where being a male fan is treated as both unmanly and a complete oddity?

 

Myself being a straight male in real life has zero bearing on how much I enjoy romancing Cullen or Alistair as female characters, nor should it. Both are extremely well written and complex characters, who have fantastic romance arcs that are fun to play.

 

That they both happen to be traditionally handsome, knights in shining armour is just a side benefit for my characters to enjoy!

[HuldraDancer]

I apologize if I offended anyone on here with my ramblings it was not my intention to do so. I'm just rather terrible at explaining myself and what I mean and I apologize for any confusion or offense that took place due to any of my posts. (I'm not apologizing for the Linkara gif though, however I probably lept too fast at the chance to use it in any way^^; )

[R2s Muse]

No I apologize for any confusion I was agreeing with the other poster about feeling some frustration about ending up liking Cullen, for me personally it has nothing to do with being manly or anything and more of 'I've been so indifferent to this character before I must continue to be so to be a cool kid to no one but myself' kind of thing. I have very weird misplaced pride. I tend to be in a state of confusion and fear when my opinions change.

Whelp, we try to be equal-opportunity Cullen appreciators, so you'll get none of that here. Elsewhere on BSN? No such guarantees. But being subjected to hate for being a Cullen fan is something many of us have experienced, and much of that hate is often gendered, which is why we try to be careful about contributing to such rhetoric. 
 
That being said, I thought practically *everyone* was a Cullen fan these days. :hipster snicker:    
 

/end hipster Cullen snark

 

Welcome aboard!

[R2s Muse]

Please enjoy this bra burning gif as my way of saying I agree with Tishina's point that enthusiasm needs not be engendered but that I'm not so offended that I can't laugh about the stereotypical "unmanly" comment. 

 

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LOL Is that  young Marge Simpson?? 

[Tishina]

Funnily, what I personally find remarkable with Celyse is actually her ability (or Elaine/tria's) ability to take everything light heartedly and keep her warmth. There's something admirable in characters who stays courageous and kind and warmhearted after all that happen. It takes a lot of courage to stay kind and courageous and keep smiling when the world is very cruel to you.

Oh, like I said, that was just one reason I love her comic. I love her for that too. It's such a warm take on both characters.

 

I apologize if I offended anyone on here with my ramblings it was not my intention to do so. I'm just rather terrible at explaining myself and what I mean and I apologize for any confusion or offense that took place due to any of my posts. (I'm not apologizing for the Linkara gif though, however I probably lept too fast at the chance to use it in any way^^; )

Hey, you're fine!    Most of us were being humorous about it and you clearly weren't intending criticism. But it's something we tend to point out because there is a problem with criticizing some things just because young women like them (as game launched approached, it was really bad.) No one puts down sports fans for the same kind of screaming enthusiasm (notice I didn't gender that, btw, though it often is assumed to be - the biggest sports fan I know is my own sister.)

 

I admit, it was a bit odd for me to find myself on the inside of it looking out this time; I've been much more likely to be on the receiving end of criticism for liking the "wrong" things for a woman. Hadn't quite realized how pervasive criticism also was of women for liking the things I was told I should like, lol.  

[Sifr]

 

No one puts down sports fans for the same kind of screaming enthusiasm (notice I didn't gender that, btw, though it often is assumed to be - the biggest sports fan I know is my own sister.)

 

I admit, it was a bit odd for me to find myself on the inside of it looking out this time; I've been much more likely to be on the receiving end of criticism for liking the "wrong" things for a woman. Hadn't quite realized how pervasive criticism also was of women for liking the things I was told I should like, lol.

 

Aye, my complete disinterest in football despite being an adult male from the UK, often requires me having to mentally invoke the Linkara gif.

 

British telly tends to reflect this whenever an important match is on, it's practically expected that I would want to watch a bunch of oversexed and overpaid people kick a ball around a pitch for the next 90 minutes... no ta, isn't there any good films on?  

[CuriousArtemis]

Hey now, I love me some good footie! And my fantasy team is kicking a$$ or should I say arse since it's FPL.

 

However I guess the equivalent over here would be American football and how we're all supposed to care about it... when this past Sunday I didn't even realize the Superbowl was going on lol

[R2s Muse]

So a reminder that Vday is approaching and some prompts are below to foster some creativity. Write something. Draw something. Photoshop something. Dialogue. Limerick. Haiku. Whatevs. Just make it Culleny. 

 

Eeexcellent! The "do what you want"s prevail! As always, honestly, do what makes you happy. The prompts and ideas are there to help. Just make it culleny.

 

"Modern day Thedosians celebrate the Feast of St. Valentine often without knowing its deeper historical roots in Tevinter. While today it consists of ostentatious demonstrations of affection between lovers, the feast commemorates Valentine Amatius, a priest known to help slaves escape from Tevinter. His tireless efforts to end slavery were overshadowed by romanticized tales of shepherding rogue lovers from the strictures of Tevinter society. When he later escaped south himself and joined the Orlesian chantry, the bards of Val Royeaux immediately popularized his tale. Now he is considered the patron saint of lovers, and once a year, his feastday is recognized in Orlais, Ferelden, and parts of the Free Marches with the exchange of too-expensive gifts and chocolate. The more lavish celebrations wane, but the chocolate remains."

--Brother Genetivi, Holidays, Celebrations and Ritual Bloodlettings in Modern Thedas

 

 

 

 

For V-day, the prompt could be something like a kiss or couple thing, or it could be more general like 'how did he get his scar?' (altho we've talked about that a lot already recently).  

 

What about... the set up of a scene (inspired by Vday), and everyone finishes 'what happens next?' in their own way? Like, draws a pic, outlines a scene, writes a fic or a dialogue or whatever?? Like, I dunno, something like:

 

"Did you see it yet?" Sera asked Cullen, biting her lip.

 

"See what?" he responded suspiciously. 

 

She grinned. "You should head to the tavern." She sauntered away, but over her shoulder, added, "I didn't realize it was Valentine's Day."

[R2s Muse]

And, an oldie for more inspiration. snerk. 

 

[Cerulione]

Did you guys see this???

 

http://feylen.tumblr...the-giantkiller

 

[Fadburger]

Too right, look at all the hatred spewed towards bands like One Direction; they're not my cup of tea at all, and in fact even as a child I never got into boy bands (New Kids On The Block were popular when I was a wee one haha) but there is soooooo much hatred spewed towards this seemingly innocent and nicely put together boy band... what on earth do they do that's so darn offensive? They have cute catchy tunes and they're nice to look at.... OH and they have hordes of screaming fangirls. Sigh.

 

And ohhhhhhh Mass Effect ♥ I actually love it more than Dragon Age, although my favorite romance is from Dragon Age (Fenris). The story just blows me away from start to finish. I know better than to hope for something similar for ME:A; I made a similar mistake in hoping for something like DA2 (which I loved) for DA:I and even despite all the warning signs I didn't listen and hence got my hopes crushed to dust lol NEVER AGAIN.

 

Yup exactly, it's just because their main audience is teenage girls. 

 

As for Mass Effect, I love it more than Dragon Age too, it's one of those things that just had a deep impact on my soul, that sounds cheesy but that's just how I feel about Mass Effect ... I'm just in Dragon Age purgatory right now lol because it's my newest "discovery" I only started playing DAI in November (on N7 day actually, a fact which I am slightly ashamed of lol...I meant to play ME3 multiplayer that day...) I only just started playing DAO for the first time a couple weeks ago actually, although I took a short break to work on a couple DAI playthroughs and I wanted to get all those DAI Alistair feels I missed out on before I played DAO and became a huge Alistair fan lol.

My favorite romance (probably of all time) is the Garrus romance though, that's a tough one to beat for me lol. I love my Cullen and Alistair romances soooo so much, but it's just not the same lol. The only character that even comes close to touching my Garrus-love is Alistair and that's just because I've never identified with a character as much as I have with Alistair before (in fact, that makes me feel a little narcissistic for loving him so much haha, although he's certainly very different from me in many ways). 

[Fadburger]

Did you guys see this???

 

http://feylen.tumblr...the-giantkiller

 

 

I don't usually like "modern AUs" but I love these pictures that keep popping up of Cullen in modern clothes. I especially like it when they're of him in vests and button-ups haha

[Cerulione]

Whenever you starts liking something, it never matter. You start loving it 2h15 before Jesus Christ, you are not a fan. You start loving it now, you are not a fan. You are only a fan if you are made of flat metallic/plastic blade that spins really fast and probably works on electricity.

 

(read it somewhere not me)

 

I don't usually like "modern AUs" but I love these pictures that keep popping up of Cullen in modern clothes. I especially like it when they're of him in vests and button-ups haha

 

Bwahahahahahahahahaha I love watching Ice Hockey even though I don't understand the rules at all and who's who (the players look all similar like Huge Polar Bears).

[R2s Muse]

Did you guys see this???

 

http://feylen.tumblr...the-giantkiller

 

sigh. feylen's modern AU Cullens give me life; esp her librarian!AU. This one was quite adorable. But it's then a moral obligation to trot out my fave for the eighteen thousandth time. 

 

http://feylen.tumblr...t-me-on-patreon

[Cerulione]

sigh. feylen's modern AU Cullens give me life; esp her librarian!AU. This one was quite adorable. But it's then a moral obligation to trot out my fave for the eighteen thousandth time. 

 

http://feylen.tumblr...t-me-on-patreon

 

Funnily among all her modern AU pic, I don't really favour that one personally. Just somehow can't see Cullen wearing square-shaped coat... O.o

But to think about it... It's very... Ferelden? XD

 

HELL YES TO ICE HOCKEY!

[CuriousArtemis]

Yup exactly, it's just because their main audience is teenage girls. 

 

As for Mass Effect, I love it more than Dragon Age too, it's one of those things that just had a deep impact on my soul, that sounds cheesy but that's just how I feel about Mass Effect ... I'm just in Dragon Age purgatory right now lol because it's my newest "discovery" I only started playing DAI in November (on N7 day actually, a fact which I am slightly ashamed of lol...I meant to play ME3 multiplayer that day...) I only just started playing DAO for the first time a couple weeks ago actually, although I took a short break to work on a couple DAI playthroughs and I wanted to get all those DAI Alistair feels I missed out on before I played DAO and became a huge Alistair fan lol.

My favorite romance (probably of all time) is the Garrus romance though, that's a tough one to beat for me lol. I love my Cullen and Alistair romances soooo so much, but it's just not the same lol. The only character that even comes close to touching my Garrus-love is Alistair and that's just because I've never identified with a character as much as I have with Alistair before (in fact, that makes me feel a little narcissistic for loving him so much haha, although he's certainly very different from me in many ways). 

 

YES!!! I have the same response to ME; I feel like it's burrowed somewhere deep into my heart and nestled within my very soul, sigh (how's that for cheesy??). 

 

I enjoyed DAO but it wasn't the best of the best for me, partly because I play male character so could only romance Zevran (who is awesome... sorry, "ridiculously" awesome) but not just that... the lack of voice for the warden was really weird seeing as how I played DA2 first so was used to my character having a voice and personality. And the fighting was tedious to me because I wasn't used to playing games like that. (Probably love ME so much because I grew up on shooters.)

 

Now for me the #1 gives-me-all-the-feels-uh romance would be Fenris, specifically rogue/warrior M!Hawke x Fenris friendmance, yes I'm very specific like that (and I wonder why I can never find arts and fics to please me...). For ME I romanced Kaidan; it was a glorious slow burn because I had a male Shep so there there was not breakup like there is with FemShep (if you want to call it that, yikes lol); if anything it was extremely romantic, with little teasing flirts in ME, that painful reunion scene in ME2, the bickering of ME3, and finally the reconciliation, flirting, and love confession in ME3. Like, honestly? There should've been more romances like that, and I feel sorry for female and straight male Sheps who didn't get that chance. Garrus and Tali are "somewhat" like this because you wait to romance them till ME2, but still, that slow burn... it was awesome.

 

(R2, I've come down with an awful illness but I do hope to try and get something done for V-Day >.< We shall see)

[R2s Muse]

Funnily among all her modern AU pic, I don't really favour that one personally. Just somehow can't see Cullen wearing square-shaped coat... O.o
But to think about it... It's very... Ferelden? XD

HELL YES TO ICE HOCKEY!

LOL You obviously haven't read the story I wrote that explains exactly why he might've been wearing that jacket at some point. . Ahem. :whistles innocently:

[R2s Muse]

(R2, I've come down with an awful illness but I do hope to try and get something done for V-Day >.< We shall see)

D'awww. I'm sorry! Ah too bad since it was your enthusiasm I was feeding off of. LOL i'll try to finish mine up, too.

[Cerulione]

Now for me the #1 gives-me-all-the-feels-uh romance would be Fenris, specifically rogue/warrior M!Hawke x Fenris friendmance, yes I'm very specific like that (and I wonder why I can never find arts and fics to please me...).

 

Gosh you should've told me. I saw quite a number a few times back, I'll tag you next time. Most are standard Garrett though. And much less rogue, most are 2H warriors.