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[CuriousArtemis]

So... imagine in a world that there are two Lavellans who are sisters, the Inquisitor is with Solas, the younger Lavellan has quite a lighter-tone-than-canon-quizzy-Cullenmance type of relationship with Cullen that's either slow build or fast track but really a playful, light-hearted one.

 

Imagine that Solavellan Quizzy just disappear at the end of Trespasser without ever going back to the Winter Palace. Imagine that Younger Lavellan ether, and neither do Cole.

 

What would Cullen's reaction be?

 

What is this, are you thinking of telling Revas and Luthiel's story? 

[Marika Haliwell]

One thing that is annoying me about Cullen's fate ( I won't mention his lyrium bad end that's just horrible ) Is the fact that if he is not romanced and out of lyrium he will always be alone. Sera gets Dagna, Iron Bull gets Dorian, even human Cole gets Maryden, but Cullen being one of the central characters no. Why they couldn't ship him with Cass if she is still a Seeker? Ugh ...

[Cerulione]

What is this, are you thinking of telling Revas and Luthiel's story? 

 

Nah...

 

One thing that is annoying me about Cullen's fate ( I won't mention his lyrium bad end that's just horrible ) Is the fact that if he is not romanced and out of lyrium he will always be alone. Sera gets Dagna, Iron Bull gets Dorian, even human Cole gets Maryden, but Cullen being one of the central characters no. Why they couldn't ship him with Cass if she is still a Seeker? Ugh ...

 

I'm all on for Cullen help Cass with the Seeker & rebuilding of something to replace the Templar/go help the templar, basically Cass & Cullen friendships

[Sifr]

One thing that is annoying me about Cullen's fate ( I won't mention his lyrium bad end that's just horrible ) Is the fact that if he is not romanced and out of lyrium he will always be alone. Sera gets Dagna, Iron Bull gets Dorian, even human Cole gets Maryden, but Cullen being one of the central characters no. Why they couldn't ship him with Cass if she is still a Seeker? Ugh ...

 

I could see Cass and Cullen hooking up if both were single, but...

 

The problem both of them have is that they are extremely private people, who have a tendency to throw themselves into their work and struggle to form relationships with people easily, making it extremely hard for such a romance to ever ignite. The only way I could see such a relationship starting would probably require a couple years of friendship and getting closer during that time, before they'd realise they even had a mutual attraction towards the other, then need some major prodding from others to convince them to act on it.

[Tishina]

I could see Cass and Cullen hooking up if both were single, but...

 

The problem both of them have is that they are extremely private people, who have a tendency to throw themselves into their work and struggle to form relationships with people easily, making it extremely hard for such a romance to ever ignite. The only way I could see such a relationship starting would probably require a couple years of friendship and getting closer during that time, before they'd realise they even had a mutual attraction towards the other, then need some major prodding from others to convince them to act on it.

I love Cass and I love Cullen and they're two of my favorite characters in DAI, but for some reason, while I can see them being really good friends, I just don't see them romantically involved. It isn't that I am too attached to them with the IQ only or anything - I ship Varric and Cass, and could imagine her with a couple of other people easily. I can think of 4 or 5 characters I could imagine Cullen taking with as well. I don't know why I don't feel any chemistry there; I'd have had no trouble imagining him with a f!Hawke warrior or even Aveline if they hadn't written a romance in for her already, and I enjoy at least several male ships with Cullen. I think it's at least partly because she's clearly still committed to the Seekers and the Chantry in some form even at the end of the game, while he's turned away from that and wants to put that connection behind him. They respect each other but they're on very different paths.

[Ghost Gal]

To be honest, I don't really see Cassandra and Cullen getting together either, but it's definitely not because I'm too attached to them with my characters. I just think it's because they have different romantic needs. Cassandra can be pretty rough and harsh, but she secretly wants to be treated like a lady, and she expects her man to step up, ignore her tsundere tendencies, and give grand romantic gestures (flowers, candles, poetry, romantic picnics, the works) anyway. Cullen may be romantic too, but he's much more shy, timid, and insecure in love. 

 

I didn't really notice until my second playthrough romancing him, but Cullen's always worrying about "getting it right," and frequently rubs his hand against the back of his head, stutters and stumbles through his words, and constantly needs to be re-assured that he's doing fine and she still loves and values him even though he thinks he's doing a poor job. Based on what I know about Cassandra, she doesn't seem to have any patience for this kind of namby-pamby behavior. She doesn't seem to be the type who'd want to hold his hand through the wooing process, or constantly coddle or reassure him he's doing fine. She seems to want someone who'll take the initiative and show confidence with wooing her. And Cullen is not that bold or confident in love. (I mean, the female Inquisitor basically has to initiate all flirting and spell out how she likes him before he asks her out.)

 

Don't get me wrong, I love Cassandra. I still lament that she's not romanceable for women, and one of the best romances I experienced in the game was my male Lavellan romancing her. Again, it just comes down to this: I think Cassandra and Cullen want different things. Cassandra wants someone bold in love, while Cullen is shy and insecure in love. Cullen needs someone supportive and nurturing in love, and Cassandra... gives tough love.

[CuriousArtemis]

One thing that is annoying me about Cullen's fate ( I won't mention his lyrium bad end that's just horrible ) Is the fact that if he is not romanced and out of lyrium he will always be alone. Sera gets Dagna, Iron Bull gets Dorian, even human Cole gets Maryden, but Cullen being one of the central characters no. Why they couldn't ship him with Cass if she is still a Seeker? Ugh ...

 

Being single doesn't mean you are "alone," sheesh. A romantic relationship is not the penultimate conclusion to the human experience lol

[Lady Artifice]

I love Cass and I love Cullen and they're two of my favorite characters in DAI, but for some reason, while I can see them being really good friends, I just don't see them romantically involved. It isn't that I am too attached to them with the IQ only or anything - I ship Varric and Cass, and could imagine her with a couple of other people easily. I can think of 4 or 5 characters I could imagine Cullen taking with as well. I don't know why I don't feel any chemistry there; I'd have had no trouble imagining him with a f!Hawke warrior or even Aveline if they hadn't written a romance in for her already, and I enjoy at least several male ships with Cullen. I think it's at least partly because she's clearly still committed to the Seekers and the Chantry in some form even at the end of the game, while he's turned away from that and wants to put that connection behind him. They respect each other but they're on very different paths.

 

 

I feel the same. I think they might be compatible on paper, at least when it comes to their ethics and values, but if their romances are any indication they both need someone to coax them out of their shells. 

 

In my opinion, they're almost too much alike for a promising romantic dynamic. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

From this thread :- http://forum.bioware...vampires-in-da/

 

 

Technically the Culen we have is a vampire, specifically a vampire trying to cure himself. Its just that instead of having a thirst for human blood, he has a thirst for Titan blood.

 

Talk about looking at Cullen in a new light...

[Sifr]

I feel the same. I think they might be compatible on paper, at least when it comes to their ethics and values, but if their romances are any indication they both need someone to coax them out of their shells. 

 

In my opinion, they're almost too much alike for a promising romantic dynamic. 

 

Yeah, in both romances we see that Cullen and Cassandra both require the Inquisitor to make the first gesture of interest (or several in Cass' case) before they feel comfortably reciprocating their own attraction. I think that's probably why they'd definitely need severe prodding from others playing matchmaker for any relationship to form, because Maker knows they'd never do it on their own if left to their own devices.

 

The only way those two would probably hook up is if we had pulled a similar scheme as in DA2 with Aveline and Donnic, with Varric reprising his role and Sera taking over the duties of offering the "Just bend her over a basin" sage advice we got Isabela.

[Marika Haliwell]

I retract ! LOL You people made me see the light , yes .... goes back to lurking

[Sifr]

I retract ! LOL You people made me see the light , yes .... goes back to lurking

 

No, please stay, the Cullenites are a wonderfully friendly bunch!

 

(We don't normally pounce on unsuspecting lurkers like a pack of rabid badgers, just when we're passionate!)

 

 

[R2s Muse]

I retract ! LOL You people made me see the light , yes .... goes back to lurking

LOL No, stay delurked! You get the star for fostering the most discussion in the thread this week! (particularly helpful when I've been out of town ) It's also an interesting question. 

 

I tend to agree on the others' comments on how difficult it would be for Cass and Cullen to pull the other out of their romantic shell. Of course, part of the assertiveness required to romance them is also by design, since the Player always needs to be the one to take the initiative in any post-DA2 Dragon Age game. But as a result, I feel like they have both been written in DA:I to require that pursuit and coaxing. Also, I've seen enough fanart now that I simply adore a Cass Cullen bromance. 

 

The real question is whether there is anyone else we met in DA:I (or the other games) who would suit him instead. I'll take f!Hawke as a given. coughcough.   But who else might work?? I've heard a lot of arguments both for and against a Bethany x Cullen ship. I haven't thought about it too much for DA:I's cast of characters. Like, oh, I dunno, what about Harding? Maryden is, um, apparently very busy.  Non-canonically, Dorian could work. Who else?? 

[R2s Muse]

From this thread :- http://forum.bioware...vampires-in-da/
 
 
 
Talk about looking at Cullen in a new light...

LOL Well, thinking about lyrium as blood casts a lot of things into a new light. 
 
Then again, at least ...
 

[R2s Muse]

Also, sigh, more smiling Cullens. 

 

 

 

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[CuriousArtemis]

The real question is whether there is anyone else we met in DA:I (or the other games) who would suit him instead. I'll take f!Hawke as a given. coughcough.   But who else might work?? I've heard a lot of arguments both for and against a Bethany x Cullen ship. I haven't thought about it too much for DA:I's cast of characters. Like, oh, I dunno, what about Harding? Maryden is, um, apparently very busy.  Non-canonically, Dorian could work. Who else?? 

 

Just want to point out that Harding is just as non-canonical as Dorian, sadly!

 

I have trouble shipping Cullen with a non-female non-dwarf non-qunari. I honestly can't think of anyone. I mean I could make an OC (and of course there's all you guys' excellent humans and elves) but no NPC really comes to mind.

 

I feel like he would do best with someone who will tease and or challenge him, NOT someone who is very much like him (like Cassandra). Maybe someone like Leliana. 

[Cerulione]

I could see Cass and Cullen hooking up if both were single, but...

 

The problem both of them have is that they are extremely private people, who have a tendency to throw themselves into their work and struggle to form relationships with people easily, making it extremely hard for such a romance to ever ignite. The only way I could see such a relationship starting would probably require a couple years of friendship and getting closer during that time, before they'd realise they even had a mutual attraction towards the other, then need some major prodding from others to convince them to act on it.

 

 

I love Cass and I love Cullen and they're two of my favorite characters in DAI, but for some reason, while I can see them being really good friends, I just don't see them romantically involved. It isn't that I am too attached to them with the IQ only or anything - I ship Varric and Cass, and could imagine her with a couple of other people easily. I can think of 4 or 5 characters I could imagine Cullen taking with as well. I don't know why I don't feel any chemistry there; I'd have had no trouble imagining him with a f!Hawke warrior or even Aveline if they hadn't written a romance in for her already, and I enjoy at least several male ships with Cullen. I think it's at least partly because she's clearly still committed to the Seekers and the Chantry in some form even at the end of the game, while he's turned away from that and wants to put that connection behind him. They respect each other but they're on very different paths.

 

 

Being single doesn't mean you are "alone," sheesh. A romantic relationship is not the penultimate conclusion to the human experience lol

 

This had probably been said before but I really think that Cass & Cullen can do a great bond being partner/friend for a lifetime without being romantically involved. As Arty said, there are lots of other relationship that can be very meaningful and last a lifetime without it being romantic. Partnership, camaraderie. True I think it's getting rarer today but well...

 

I'm big on Cullen being Cass' Right Hand if ever Cass is Divine (remember Arty's fic?), and also if Cass is not Divine, I see them work very well together helping each other. Cullen forming something similar to the Templar Order or rebuilding the Templar Order, Cass rebuild the Seeker. Or some common goals. Both of them are the same type of people who works well together.

[Cerulione]

Just want to point out that Harding is just as non-canonical as Dorian, sadly!

 

I have trouble shipping Cullen with a non-female non-dwarf non-qunari. I honestly can't think of anyone. I mean I could make an OC (and of course there's all you guys' excellent humans and elves) but no NPC really comes to mind.

 

I feel like he would do best with someone who will tease and or challenge him, NOT someone who is very much like him (like Cassandra). Maybe someone like Leliana. 

 

I can't see Leliana with Cullen TBH O.o

 

Funnily I can very easily see Leliana with Alistair...

[coldwetn0se]

I really don't have .02 in this discussion (the "shipping" of Cullen with...??), but if I did - and using only known characters - it would probably be Minaeve. Even though her role is small - and can end rather untimely (get it, cuz saving her is on a timer...anyone?? *stupid dopey grin*), if the player doesn't save her during the attack on Haven.

She just seems like one of those people who would fit fairly easily with an ex-templar, considering her opinions on templars, the circle and what not.

Just a thought. *shrug*

[Cerulione]

I really don't have .02 in this discussion (the "shipping" of Cullen with...??), but if I did - and using only known characters - it would probably be Minaeve. Even though her role is small - and can end rather untimely (get it, cuz saving her is on a timer...anyone?? *stupid dopey grin*), if the player doesn't save her during the attack on Haven.

She just seems like one of those people who would fit fairly easily with an ex-templar, considering her opinions on templars, the circle and what not.

Just a thought. *shrug*

 

Hmmm I can see that, although TBH there'll be a significant age difference? Minaeve strikes me as someone around 18-20 in the game.

 

Although probably I'm biased because I'm shipping Minaeve with one of my gals O.o

[coldwetn0se]

Hmmm I can see that, although TBH there'll be a significant age difference? Minaeve strikes me as someone around 18-20 in the game.
 
Although probably I'm biased because I'm shipping Minaeve with one of my gals O.o

Did they give an age for Minaeve (or specific date when she was dumped out in the middle of nowhere left to fend for herself), and I can't remember? BTW, I am asking in earnest, I swear.

She always seemed to be at the very least early twenties to early thirties to me. I guess I based that on having a dual role (of a sorts): heading up creature/enemy research, and unofficially caring for the few tranquils at Haven. Just seems somewhat of a task for someone only just being of "harrowing" age. But again, that is just my perception on her character. Nothing more.

[PrimaD]

 

Funnily I can very easily see Leliana with Alistair...

 

I don't think it's much of a stretch since I thought it was more than implied in Darkspawn Chronicles.  Which sadly I don't think I've ever seen decent fanfic with the two of them.  I would read the heck out of it.

 

Back to Cullen though, I could easily see him with Cassandra.  Not so much convenience if not that definition of what people perceive as "true love"*.  One based first on trust and loyalty which I think they have in spades.   And while I don't think a romance between them would ever be bodice ripping like Swords and Shields, I don't think either would lack for passion.  I guess maybe I don't see Cullen as this shy flower when it comes to romance.  This is still the guy who swept a desk off to have sex on.

 

*I confess that I'm a cynic but that's because I used to be married.

[R2s Muse]

Just want to point out that Harding is just as non-canonical as Dorian, sadly!

LOL Derp! My bad. I blame the jet lag.

Indeed, I see few canonical options as well.

[Tishina]

 

 

*I confess that I'm a cynic but that's because I used to be married.

Been there, got the t-shirt...

 

And one of the reasons I really don't personally get into the romances that seem to be almost exclusively "love-at-first-sight," which seems to be mostly physical and very little of anything else or romances that revolve around "let me prove how much I love you through self-sacrifice and pretending only one person's needs matter."

 

I can't really say why I can't seem to ship the two of them myself because I can absolutely see him with a fellow warrior who's more about duty than anything else and they have a helluva lot in common in attitudes...except for the chantry, etc.

 

However, of the DAI NPCs around Skyhold that I could ship him with, hmm, Dorian, the surgeon, the dwarven messenger whose voice is full of suppressed laughter when Josephine suggests he'd like a tailored coat from Val Royeaux, Harding, Lysette. Possibly Charter?

 

I can't even remotely imagine, however: Josephine, Vivienne, the merchant from Val Royeaux (can't remember her name right now) or Dagna (even assuming she's bi rather than lesbian.)

 

And a lot of others I have no particular opinion about.

[PrimaD]

Been there, got the t-shirt...

 

Ahh.  To be young and foolish again.  I thought for sure that goof was the great love of my life.  Thankfully I got two great kids (not so much kids anymore) out of the deal.  

 

I can't even remotely imagine, however: Josephine, Vivienne, the merchant from Val Royeaux (can't remember her name right now) or Dagna (even assuming she's bi rather than lesbian.)

 

 

 

I've often said that a good author can convince me of any pairing but I agree, it would take me quite a bit to convince me of him and Josephine.  Although I would definitely give it a try and not dismiss it out of hand*.  I once read this dark fic of him and Vivienne and I wish I could remember where I found it because I'd read it again. It definitely wasn't a happy fic which sometimes is exactly what I'm looking for.  Under twisted circumstances, again I'd believe it.  Pull a thread and the improbable becomes possible.

 

*edit:  I think I could believe a Josephine/Cullen pairing in the In Hushed Whispers alternate timeline though.