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But Cullen... <snip>

 

He's also the person who chews out the guy in Haven who apparently insulted Charter for being an elf...

 

So yeah, I find that particular rant baffling.

Coming back to Cullen, this was the only thing I was going to add to this discussion, and it was already said but buried at the end of Tish's post. Cullen hasn't been living under a rock for 30 years; he knows that elves are downtrod and does take that guy to task specifically for using the slur "knife ear." So he's aware, and, in this case, also does something about the prejudice. The writers didn't give us too much to go on, but what they did suggests he's rather respectful of elven culture. :shrug: 

 

The only other thing is that I encourage folks not to single out individual posters for dissection, even if they're not from posts on the BSN. It's something the mods particularly frown upon. 


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So, new chapter!

Fool's Errand Chapter 24: Andraste’s Grace (ao3) (ffn)

Summary: Three years after allowing Marian Hawke to escape Kirkwall, a disgraced Cullen is sent on a desperate quest to find her. Can he earn her trust in time to regain what he’s lost and finally redeem them all for the role they played in igniting the mage-templar war? Set in 9:40, after the events of DA2 and Asunder, now slightly AU to DA:I. Now rated M.

Chapter Summary:  Hawke re-examines her faith in the wake of Cullen’s disclosure, while Cullen meets an old friend upon starting his new path.


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Regarding Cullen and what he knew/didn't knew.

 

I personally wish they had expounded on this. Instead DAI gives us a Cullen who's just sort of generically sorry for the bad stuff that happened. But oh he's learned a lot since then and he's a changed man now. Go mages! etc. etc. It's such a cop out.

 

I agree. I wish they had addressed his compliance with Meredith and the trauma and PTSD that fueled those years of compliance in the game instead of dancing around it. Trying to half-heartedly excuse and retcon it away. 

 

I would call it a stretch to say he's "go mages!" now. At the beginning of the game he's very emphatically for going to the Templars for help, and expresses some of his old distrust against magic, very step of the way. First meet your advisers at Haven? Cullen recommends Templars. Cassandra points out how "we need power... enough magic poured into that mark--" he replies "Might destroy us all! The Templars could suppress the Breach." Come back from Val Royeaux after Templars go rogue? Cullen recommends looking into it. Heck, after getting back from your visit to Redcliffe (if you made it) if memory serves Cullen still recommends quitting on trying to recruit the mages approaching the Templars instead. My gal was thinking, "Dude! I'm an elven apostate who's expressed strong interest in going to the mages since the beginning, and I just found out a Tevinter magister and his officials have hulled themselves up in Arl Teagan's estate. We're not going to the Templars! Let it go!"

 

 

I would have actually PREFERRED a Cullen who, after some pushing and shoving, admitted that he DID know about some very SPECIFIC evils/wrongs that were occurring. That he wrestled with that and still suffers from the guilt to this day. That he tried to justify his decisions or turning a blind eye to horrible things. That he admits he was WRONG and that maybe, despite everything, he still harbors some prejudices, and some anger, YES! because of the torture and abuse HE suffered as a young man. How he continues to wrestle with these issues, etc.THAT'S an interesting character. That's the Cullen I fell in love with (not like that lol) and just found so fascinating. That's the character I really wanted to romance, to explore in a complex relationship (which is why I never wanted to romance him with a mage; same with Fenris). Fortunately BioWare spared me the opportunity to do so  :P
 
I actually kind of agree, even though I'm not really fond of Cullen's anti-mage side. (I understand why, but that doesn't mean I like it.)
 

At the very least, I wish the Inquisitor (especially a mage Inquisitor) could call him out on his service to Meredith and basically demand that he explain himself, and for Cullen to explain and address what he did instead of his usual pussyfooting around it. I'm almost annoyed that even though the Inquisitor can be a pretty ruthless jerk to a lot of our companions and things they care about (Sera and her trauma regarding cookies, Solas' love of spirits, Dorian and his issues with Tevinter/homosexuality, etc), yet the game almost forces you to coddle Cassandra's feelings about the Seekers and Cullen's history with the Templars. "Oh, he's really sorry for what he did." GOOD. He should be sorry. That was a horrible thing to support for all those years.

 

For the most part I do like Cullen as a character, but that's a really huge issue for me and I wish the game would address it head-on instead of keeping it around as this big, awkward elephant in the room that we're supposed to pretend isn't there when it is.

 

Very strange take on both Cullen and elves. I played through DA:O twice as an elven mage, and never once did I get the impression within the Circle that elven mages were treated differently. We do have the examples of Orsino and Fionna (sadly, very poor examples) to suggest differently. I have real issues with the victim blaming of elves that has been increasing as the games have gone on, and the fact that the two most powerful elven Circle mages both show such devastatingly bad errors in judgment doesn't encourage me (actually, when you add Solas and Marethari and Zathrian and even Merrill, has there actually been an elven mage they haven't made out to have horrible judgment - Merrill if only for her use of blood magic?) But they didn't seem to face any barriers that human mages don't.

 

But Cullen...Cullen is about the only one besides Solas who doesn't pressure you about Andrastrianism when you play a Dalish and seems prepared to take you at your word and clearly has his own deep doubts about the Chantry. He's completely supportive of you taking Dalish vows if you romance and marry him. He doesn't ask you to change your beliefs or culture. Sera does if you're Dalish. They didn't exactly have a huge amount of content, sadly, to get into as much as most of us would have liked, and no, he never asks you much about your culture or background (he doesn't for a Trevelyan either, does he?) But if you ask him about whether being Dalish is a problem, he actually says "I hadn't considered...elves weren't treated differently in the Circles I served. I didn't think what it might mean to you. I hope that doesn't - I mean, does it bother you?" He ASKS. He doesn't assume that you might not have a problem with him being human. He grew up in Honnleath and may never have had contact with a Dalish or even many elves before leaving to join the Templars. He's also the person who chews out the guy in Haven who apparently insulted Charter for being an elf...

 

So yeah, I find that particular rant baffling.

 

I think the first game kept it a little vague as to whether elves received prejudice in the Circle for being elves, and how much. If you play Amell and Eadric barks at you to get out of his light, there's the potential to respond, "I don't take orders from elves." If you play Surana and talk to Duncan before escorting him to his room (after that he stops talking), he'll discuss how unfairly mages are treated, as well as elves, and ask if you've received any prejudice in the Circle for being an elf, and you can give a number of responses: No, not at all. Yes, a little. Yes, all the time. Etc. So it was almost "player's choice" in that regard, and the subsequent games haven't strongly confirmed or denied it one way or another. 

 

They seem to lean more toward "all mages are treated equally in the Circle, regardless of race" approach in subsequent games, but I personally find that a little unlikely. Cullen says elves weren't treated any differently in the Circles he was at, but I don't know... it's possible it was more covert (again, one apprentice saying to another, "I don't take orders from elves"), or subconscious and he didn't notice it because he's a human Templar, or it happened when he wasn't around (who knows how Templars who routinely beat and tortured and raped mages in private treated the elven ones), etc.

 

But either way, even if he didn't see elves being treated particularly badly in Circles (whether it was there or not), Cullen is shown to be a pretty good guy who is aware that elves aren't treated well outside at least, and won't tolerate that nonsense. Calling that one guy out for using a slur against Charter. Etc.

 

I even like the way he described the elves who joined the Qunari in DA2. Considering the Qunari attacked Kirkwall and many elves aided them, it'd be easy to be bitter about them. But instead, he kindly explains, "elves who joined the Qunari to find a better life." Good man. I like how he acknowledges that they got a bad lot in Kirkwall, and that they didn't join because they were traitors or ingrates, but were just trying to find a better life. I don't even know if I'm that understanding, and I'm obsessed with elves. (I gotta admit, after Trespasser I was thinking of the elven Qunari and Fen'Harel spies, "You ungrateful rats! After all I've done for you and our people!")



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Why? Should one's unfortunate circumstances warrant a free pass to do whatever one wishes to?

Sympathy where it's needed and accountability for everything you do on your free will.

That isn't what I said at all. My point is that the writers have chosen to write *all* elven mages as seriously flawed in certain ways and limit them to a narrow range instead of giving us the range of values and choices we see in human mages. It reduces elven mages to a homogenous group who can be assumed to be guilty until proven innocent at all times, etc.

 

However, this was originally about Cullen's treatment of elves generally, and I think most of us are in agreement on that.



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I would call it a stretch to say he's "go mages!" now. At the beginning of the game he's very emphatically for going to the Templars for help, and expresses some of his old distrust against magic, very step of the way. First meet your advisers at Haven? Cullen recommends Templars. Cassandra points out how "we need power... enough magic poured into that mark--" he replies "Might destroy us all! The Templars could suppress the Breach." Come back from Val Royeaux after Templars go rogue? Cullen recommends looking into it. Heck, after getting back from your visit to Redcliffe (if you made it) if memory serves Cullen still recommends quitting on trying to recruit the mages approaching the Templars instead. My gal was thinking, "Dude! I'm an elven apostate who's expressed strong interest in going to the mages since the beginning, and I just found out a Tevinter magister and his officials have hulled themselves up in Arl Teagan's estate. We're not going to the Templars! Let it go!"

 

lol I was joking about the "go mages" thing. (Try not to take me too seriously.) Though the examples you give, I don't think that's Cullen being anti-mage or even not trusting mages. More like, he's been around magic all his life and he feels more comfortable with "controlling" magic than letting it burst forth unfettered. I actually think Cullen makes a fine point to opt for the templars over the mages; he's not even saying he trusts them more, thinks they're better, thinks they're right, etc. but more that he personally believes templar powers will get the job done, whereas magic MIGHT get it done, but magic is unpredictable (he should know) and it could totally backfire on them and result in more loss of life.


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However, this was originally about Cullen's treatment of elves generally, and I think most of us are in agreement on that.

 

Oh yeah he's all about dem elves.

 

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Cullen: *MMMMPH GRRRR RRMPH*

Auren: Mythal's breath I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS.

 

(Okay have a slightly more romantic scene)

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Cullen: Mmmmm... dat ass.

Auren: Wow you are just way more saucy than I ever expected you would be.


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lol I was joking about the "go mages" thing. (Try not to take me too seriously.) Though the examples you give, I don't think that's Cullen being anti-mage or even not trusting mages. More like, he's been around magic all his life and he feels more comfortable with "controlling" magic than letting it burst forth unfettered. I actually think Cullen makes a fine point to opt for the templars over the mages; he's not even saying he trusts them more, thinks they're better, thinks they're right, etc. but more that he personally believes templar powers will get the job done, whereas magic MIGHT get it done, but magic is unpredictable (he should know) and it could totally backfire on them and result in more loss of life.

 

Ah, fair enough.

 

I don't know, the way you describe Cullen not trusting that magic will get the job done but the Templars will is the opposite to how I'd feel about it. I mean, we the player know that both mages and Templars will work because binary choice game mechanics, but in-universe the protagonist sealed a few rifts and the Breach before even reaching that conversation. We know the mark works, and more magic just means more fuel, not a match to fuel. The Breach is also a foreign kind of magic with only a single known key; how do we know the Templars' generic magic suppression would work? Another reason my gal didn't want to risk going to the Templars was to go to all that trouble, only for their abilities to be insufficient. So I guess, to me, Cullen stubbornly insisting that the Templars could do it even though all signs (to me) seemed to point toward magic being the better solution showed his old preference for Templars and distrust of magic.



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1. According to WoT2 Tale of a Champion is a non-fiction novel, that every one treats as if it was fiction to the point of criticising Hawke's actions as unrealistic to Hawke's face. Of course knowing Varric it's exaggerated.

 

"One Antivan critic notoriously complained that the book's premise was implausible and it was impossible to imagine that any one person could befriend such a baffling assortment of ruffians as Hawke did. He gave the book one star. Hawke supposedly sent him a letter of thanks."

 

This made me laugh my head off when I read WOT2, especially since it seems (at least in my mind) to confirm Silly Hawke as being canon. :lol:


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"One Antivan critic notoriously complained that the book's premise was implausible and it was impossible to imagine that any one person could befriend such a baffling assortment of ruffians as Hawke did. He gave the book one star. Hawke supposedly sent him a letter of thanks."

 

This made me laugh my head off when I read WOT2, especially since it seems (at least in my mind) to confirm Silly Hawke as being canon. :lol:

 

Snarky Hawke is Best Hawke TM I try Diplomatic and Agressive, but always shift to Snarky halfway through. My Diplomatic Hawke went Snarky as a coping mechanism after that quest with his mother, and my Aggressive Hawke turns Snarky because having so many goofy/broody friends, he just can't sustain it.

 

I have noticed in DAI that my mages pick templars for their magic suppressing abilities, while my non-mages pick mages cuz MOAR POWAH. It wasn't intentional, it's just a trend I've noticed from my many restarts.

 

As for Cullen, he is a bit pushy about going to the Templars. Inq just gives him an exasperated sigh and keeps walking.

 

And the big discussion about how Cullen has changed, my take on it was he was rather permissive of the harsher handling of the mages because of his bias, which could have been a fun discussion to have with him, but that gross negligence and abuse wouldn't have gone uncorrected if he knew about it. I didn't get the impression he'd be okay with rape and assault, but because of what'd happened to him, and Kirkwall's insanity, that he internally justified the mage isolation that was going on there.

 

I imagine he actually hasn't had someone call him out on it properly, and unfortunately we were not given the option to bring it up. You can argue with Dorian about slavery, but I haven't yet seen the option to get down and dirty with Cullen about Kirkwall.

 

I'm sure my Inq would have quite the eye-opener if they sat down with Hawke and had a true discussion about everything.

 

They'd also have some mock magic duels, as I find myself sticking mostly to the middle sarcastic options again. Oh yes, Cullen and Fenris on the sidelines facepalming while mage Inq and mage Hawke played dodge the fireball.


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Snarky Hawke is Best Hawke TM I try Diplomatic and Agressive, but always shift to Snarky halfway through. My Diplomatic Hawke went Snarky as a coping mechanism after that quest with his mother, and my Aggressive Hawke turns Snarky because having so many goofy/broody friends, he just can't sustain it.

 

Of my three canon Hawke's... I have Fenris-loving diplomatic good guy "rock of his family" Nemanja Hawke, who occasionally will shift aggressive if someone he loves is threatened; I have Fenris-loving king-of-snark Eirik Hawke, who also very easily slips into aggressive speech if you ****** him off, which isn't hard; and I have Isabela-loving hard ass warrior-queen Anya Hawke, who is straight up aggressive and punched the rock wraith in the face lol

 

Regarding choosing templars or mages... Alin chose the mages because he's a little innocent and has a very positive view of magic, and also because he took "Fiona" for her word and in his eyes, the templars seemed oppressive and cruel, plus they punched that Chantry lady in the face!

 

Auren chose templars because he don't give a fuuuuck about either group :P but he could tell Cullen favored the templars, and he wanted to get in good with that hot piece of.... umm, the commander, so he chose templars.

 

My current playthrough if I ever finish it will choose mages because he's a mage, and he's like "fcuk y'all magic is awesome!" type mage, so yeah lol



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Of my three canon Hawke's... I have Fenris-loving diplomatic good guy "rock of his family" Nemanja Hawke, who occasionally will shift aggressive if someone he loves is threatened; I have Fenris-loving king-of-snark Eirik Hawke, who also very easily slips into aggressive speech if you ****** him off, which isn't hard; and I have Isabela-loving hard ass warrior-queen Anya Hawke, who is straight up aggressive and punched the rock wraith in the face lol

 

Regarding choosing templars or mages... Alin chose the mages because he's a little innocent and has a very positive view of magic, and also because he took "Fiona" for her word and in his eyes, the templars seemed oppressive and cruel, plus they punched that Chantry lady in the face!

 

Auren chose templars because he don't give a fuuuuck about either group :P but he could tell Cullen favored the templars, and he wanted to get in good with that hot piece of.... umm, the commander, so he chose templars.

 

My current playthrough if I ever finish it will choose mages because he's a mage, and he's like "fcuk y'all magic is awesome!" type mage, so yeah lol

 

I just started my second DA2 playthrough last night with a sarcastic Warrior Fenris-romancing f!Hawke (I am so lazy and always keep her Marian lol) and I have to say I LOVE the Sarcastic dialogue haha...it's just beautiful. I did enjoy my first DA2 playthrough (I finished it about a week ago for the first time...can't keep myself away from Fenris...) as a diplomatic Mage Fenris-romancing f!Hawke which was fun too, because I did choose the sarcastic option sometimes but kept her largely diplomatic...I always tend to edge more to the "good guy" side of Bioware games so that was my natural choice the first time...my canon playthrough...now I am just having fun and enjoying sarcastic Hawke very much lol

 

I always choose mages, I can't help it. Doesn't matter what class etc. my character is it's mages all the way lol. Kind of tough with Fenris but I end up just being in the middle ground and edging towards them in the end anyway...so many blood mages in Kirkwall lol...but Meredith is just always wrong! 


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I just started my second DA2 playthrough last night with a sarcastic Warrior Fenris-romancing f!Hawke (I am so lazy and always keep her Marian lol) and I have to say I LOVE the Sarcastic dialogue haha...it's just beautiful. I did enjoy my first DA2 playthrough (I finished it about a week ago for the first time...can't keep myself away from Fenris...) as a diplomatic Mage Fenris-romancing f!Hawke which was fun too, because I did choose the sarcastic option sometimes but kept her largely diplomatic...I always tend to edge more to the "good guy" side of Bioware games so that was my natural choice the first time...my canon playthrough...now I am just having fun and enjoying sarcastic Hawke very much lol

 

I always choose mages, I can't help it. Doesn't matter what class etc. my character is it's mages all the way lol. Kind of tough with Fenris but I end up just being in the middle ground and edging towards them in the end anyway...so many blood mages in Kirkwall lol...but Meredith is just always wrong! 

 

I see someone else is Fenris-addicted :P

 

Yeah my Hawke's always choose mages. Even Eirik Hawke, who I tried to make very pro-templar, sent mages back to the Circle, etc., often agreed with Fen-Fen... when it came to it, I just couldn't choose the templars. Because it wasn't "choosing the templars"; it was wholesale murder. It didn't make sense, even for this more hard-lined character. And I think the ending is just really really bad in that sense, because not even Fenris, if written true to his character, would agree to that. Yet if you choose mages, he will fight you if your friendship/rivalry isn't high enough. When really, everyone should be like "Hawke, are you INSANE?" if you agree to help Meredith kill everyone INCLUDING THE CHILDREN in the Kirkwall Circle for something they didn't do. It was just such a miss by the writing team. Ah well.

 

It's not so hard being mage-friendly and friendmancing Fenris; just don't take him on a few of those pro-mage missions in act 1. Let him kill the slaver. Flirt with him until his ears turn red lol give him both gifts. Yeah not so hard.


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When really, everyone should be like "Hawke, are you INSANE?" if you agree to help Meredith kill everyone INCLUDING THE CHILDREN in the Kirkwall Circle for something they didn't do. It was just such a miss by the writing team. Ah well.

 

Yeah, it's kind of a major oversight that it took them until WOT2 to make it clear that regardless of what side Hawke fought for during the Kirkwall Uprising, the Templars under Cullen's command spared (and protected) any loyalist mages who remained behind in the Gallows.

 

Really could have made it clearer in DA2, it would have prevented a lot of "Cullen supports mass-murder" debates that we used to deal with back before Inquisition came out and everyone fell in love with Sexy Commander Hair Products.

 

:rolleyes: :lol:


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Yeah, it's kind of a major oversight that it took them until WOT2 to make it clear that regardless of what side Hawke fought for during the Kirkwall Uprising, the Templars under Cullen's command spared (and protected) any loyalist mages who remained behind in the Gallows.

Really could have made it clearer in DA2, it would have prevented a lot of "Cullen supports mass-murder" debates that we used to deal with back before Inquisition came out and everyone fell in love with Sexy Commander Hair Products.

:rolleyes: :lol:


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"Sexy Commander Hair Products"?

I like to think that his hair just naturally situates its self so perfectly upon his head but I fear Cullen may spend more time fussing over his hair than any of my inquisitors. They look positively shabby next to him. *huffs*
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I see someone else is Fenris-addicted :P

 

Yeah my Hawke's always choose mages. Even Eirik Hawke, who I tried to make very pro-templar, sent mages back to the Circle, etc., often agreed with Fen-Fen... when it came to it, I just couldn't choose the templars. Because it wasn't "choosing the templars"; it was wholesale murder. It didn't make sense, even for this more hard-lined character. And I think the ending is just really really bad in that sense, because not even Fenris, if written true to his character, would agree to that. Yet if you choose mages, he will fight you if your friendship/rivalry isn't high enough. When really, everyone should be like "Hawke, are you INSANE?" if you agree to help Meredith kill everyone INCLUDING THE CHILDREN in the Kirkwall Circle for something they didn't do. It was just such a miss by the writing team. Ah well.

 

It's not so hard being mage-friendly and friendmancing Fenris; just don't take him on a few of those pro-mage missions in act 1. Let him kill the slaver. Flirt with him until his ears turn red lol give him both gifts. Yeah not so hard.

 

Oh man...I have fallen HARD for Fenris hahaha. 

 

Yeah I agree that it's odd since Meredith was obviously nuts at that point, and wanted to kill them all because of Anders...an apostate... As for Fenris if his affinity isn't right, fighting you, I also agree...although he distrusts mages he is not completely illogical about them...for example he doesn't mind Hawke being a mage. Sure he won't be PRO-mage but he would definitely realize it's not smart to align yourself with the templars either. 

 

Yeah it wasn't too bad...I used a guide for that stuff on my first playthrough though so it was probably easier than if you just went straight to it though. I always let him kill whomever I get the option to defer to him about lol. And flirting/gifts are of course a given :3 



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*waves at everyone*

"Sexy Commander Hair Products"?

I like to think that his hair just naturally situates its self so perfectly upon his head but I fear Cullen may spend more time fussing over his hair than any of my inquisitors. They look positively shabby next to him. *huffs*

 

Oh he owns up to spending time doing his hair lol: 

 


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Oh he owns up to spending time doing his hair lol:

*snip*


Lol, as to why he will always outrank my quizzies in the beauty department. Bloody git strolls around all perfect looking - how's a girl supposed to stand a chance? Even his scars are more aesthetically pleasing than my inquisitors.

*shakes fist and pouts*

It's really not fair.

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Yeah, it's kind of a major oversight that it took them until WOT2 to make it clear that regardless of what side Hawke fought for during the Kirkwall Uprising, the Templars under Cullen's command spared (and protected) any loyalist mages who remained behind in the Gallows.

 

Really could have made it clearer in DA2, it would have prevented a lot of "Cullen supports mass-murder" debates that we used to deal with back before Inquisition came out and everyone fell in love with Sexy Commander Hair Products.

 

:rolleyes: :lol:

 

... WOW, that makes me feel so much better.

 

Thank you so much for sharing that. It really makes me feel better about--well, not the Meredith situation, that remains unaddressed, but knowing his Noble Change of Heart at the end of the game actually involved helping innocent mages--well, at least the innocent mages who would have been killed by the very Templars they were trying to remain loyal to--not just "I'm gonna turn sides because you threatened HAWKE!" but then remaining fine with Meredith's travesties against other mages / characters, and/or supporting the slaughter even after leaving her.

 

This really does make me feel better. I've been having trouble motivating myself to get that independent Cullavellan playthrough going (instead of just piggybacking off my Solavellan playthrough), partly because I have a hard time imagining my gals being okay with him due to his history with Meredith and crimes against mages. Knowing he actively worked to protect them after defecting from her goes a surprisingly long way.

 

*waves at everyone*

"Sexy Commander Hair Products"?

I like to think that his hair just naturally situates its self so perfectly upon his head but I fear Cullen may spend more time fussing over his hair than any of my inquisitors. They look positively shabby next to him. *huffs*

 

I know, right? It's such a great running gag! :D

 

EDIT: Argh! Fadburger beat me to it.  :lol:

 

BTW, I LOVE your username!  :D



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BTW, I LOVE your username! :D


Thank you! :D

It's been quite a while since I've been in the Cullen thread so I don't know many of you.

But I've just started a new PT and found myself once again fawning over our distractedly good looking Commander.

I almost forgot how much of a sweetie he is. Stupid fluttering heart needs a break for a couple of days though, I think.
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*waves at everyone*

 

Welcome back :D


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#137921
Fadburger

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Thank you! :D

It's been quite a while since I've been in the Cullen thread so I don't know many of you.

But I've just started a new PT and found myself once again fawning over our distractedly good looking Commander.

I almost forgot how much of a sweetie he is. Stupid fluttering heart needs a break for a couple of days though, I think.

 

It never ends...this is how I end up being in the middle of like 8 different repeat playthroughs of Bioware games lol


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#137922
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... WOW, that makes me feel so much better.

 

Thank you so much for sharing that. It really makes me feel better about--well, not the Meredith situation, that remains unaddressed, but knowing his Noble Change of Heart at the end of the game actually involved helping innocent mages--well, at least the innocent mages who would have been killed by the very Templars they were trying to remain loyal to--not just "I'm gonna turn sides because you threatened HAWKE!" but then remaining fine with Meredith's travesties against other mages / characters, and/or supporting the slaughter even after leaving her.

 

World of Thedas Vol 2 also reveals that as the de facto Knight-Commander after Meredith's death, Cullen not only rallied the Templars to protect the city from rebelling mages and demons, but helped coordinate relief and reconstruction efforts along with the Kirkwall Guard in order to bring some semblance of stability back to the city over the next two years.

 

Cullen working with Aveline is probably why he refers to her as an "old friend" if you follow his suggestion to let the Kirkwall guard capture and interrogate Worthy during the later the "Hard in Hightown" war table missions. As well as why Cullen is the only one to support helping Aveline organise a resistance to prevent Sebastian from annexing Kirkwall (if Anders is still alive).

 

Turns out that Cullen did a lot and took multiple levels in awesome during the period between DA2 and DAI.


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#137923
Tishina

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*waves at everyone*

"Sexy Commander Hair Products"?

I like to think that his hair just naturally situates its self so perfectly upon his head but I fear Cullen may spend more time fussing over his hair than any of my inquisitors. They look positively shabby next to him. *huffs*

 

Thank you! :D

It's been quite a while since I've been in the Cullen thread so I don't know many of you.

But I've just started a new PT and found myself once again fawning over our distractedly good looking Commander.

I almost forgot how much of a sweetie he is. Stupid fluttering heart needs a break for a couple of days though, I think.

Hey, welcome back! You do know a few of us (or I hope you remember us; I replaced my glaring dwarf profile with one Cerulione did of one of my Suranas) How are things in your part of the world? And yes, he is rather distracting, though I rather liked the ramen noodle hair myself  :P 


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#137924
R2s Muse

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*waves at everyone*

"Sexy Commander Hair Products"?

I like to think that his hair just naturally situates its self so perfectly upon his head but I fear Cullen may spend more time fussing over his hair than any of my inquisitors. They look positively shabby next to him. *huffs*

Hey, you!

 

Have a Cullen and stay a while. 

 

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#137925
R2s Muse

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World of Thedas Vol 2 also reveals that as the de facto Knight-Commander after Meredith's death, Cullen not only rallied the Templars to protect the city from rebelling mages and demons, but helped coordinate relief and reconstruction efforts along with the Kirkwall Guard in order to bring some semblance of stability back to the city over the next two years.

...which is why I really wonder at Cullen just up and leaving the templars and the city to their own devices once Cass came a'callin'. I think there's a sliver of truth in Samson's story about leaving the templars without orders. It's probably part of the story we'll apparently  never hear about why he wasn't promoted to commander if he let pro-mage Hawke go. :half-hearted fume: