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I can see your point too, but I find it more fun my way. I've seen documenteries on low land gorrilas where they use slight nods like that as a way of warning, so of course what pops into my head? 'That's it Cully Wully, you sexy little silverback...and if he comes back you fling your feces at him! That'll learn him." 

:snort: I sort of love this interpretation now. Cullen, banging his chest toward Jim's receding back. :lol: 


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LOL Or maybe hanging from those chandeliers with Sandal... :lol:

Ah, :wipes tears: DA2, I love you so. <3


The more I play DAI, the more I appreciate how... intimate DA2 felt. The everyday-ness of Hawke & Company's adventures and the centrality of the Hanged Man made it "feel" more like a home.
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*joins R2 in denial* Aris Lavellan WILL confront Solas someday and change his mind! LALALALALALALALALALAAAAAA!!!

LOL You know, now that I'm playing The Witcher 3, switching protagonists from Geralt to Ciri has been... interesting. It gives me some sliver of hope that BW might try that experiment and let my Lavellan have her own go at Solas in DA4. Of course, I then hear Mike Laidlaw's voice in my ear, reminding me that Dragon Age is the story of the world, not any one person, but... still... :wibble:


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The more I play DAI, the more I appreciate how... intimate DA2 felt. The everyday-ness of Hawke & Company's adventures and the centrality of the Hanged Man made it "feel" more like a home.

LOL Yeah, it definitely was unique. I was just reading here on the BSN about David Gaider's interview earlier this year that apparently talked more about the scrapped Exalted March DLC (and how Varric was going TO DIE!). It was interesting to see all the DA2 nostalgia writ large.  


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I like DA's approach of different protagonists, but with the relationship between Solas and the every Inquisitor, it'd make sense to have the latter back as the PC.
As for dual protagonists, I'm not against it, but Geralt still had by far most of the screentime as PC. I'm not sure people would like the Geralt-Ciri ratio.
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Hey. You do you. =) I was just sharing my perspective, not trying to convert you. ;)


That would have been hysterical! Sadly we don't get the option to drag him away for a quickie during the first kiss. Though I think that would kind of go against Cullen's morals. I think he'd be kind of horrified if the woman he's into was ready to go that far so soon. He's still getting to know her and her him so I think he'd balk at the idea and call the whole thing off.

Well it would have to be after their desk clearing scene...or just before it. I'd put it during the discussion after Wicked Grace. I find Wicked Grace comes up just around the time of the desk clearing anyway, so it wouldn't be too out of character. She tells him he had no reason to be embaressed, she liked the show, even offers to join him in his discomfort during a game, he laughs thinking she kidding, she saunters over to the ladder and starts climbing up, he gives a puzzled "uh, where are you going", she pulls his scivvies from under her jacket and dangles them over her shoulder, "Are these what you were looking for?", he says "Where did you get..?" she rushes up the ladder while he stands at his desk perplexed for a couple of seconds, she calls down, "are you coming up?"...hesitantly he moves over to the the ladder and looks up and she drops articles of clothing down, one by one on his head as he goes up the ladder.


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:snort: I sort of love this interpretation now. Cullen, banging his chest toward Jim's receding back. :lol:

:D Yeah, I chuckle every time. And that furry armor of his doesn't help.



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I like DA's approach of different protagonists, but with the relationship between Solas and the every Inquisitor, it'd make sense to have the latter back as the PC.
As for dual protagonists, I'm not against it, but Geralt still had by far most of the screentime as PC. I'm not sure people would like the Geralt-Ciri ratio.

yeah I honestly don't know how they could pull it off and make it feel satisfying. I also like the way Dragon age has approached it. Or rather, it just would've been a different game if it had been the story of one person for all these years now. So I don't want it to suddenly just becoming the inquisitor story from here on in.

I don't know how invested I would feel In two equally-shared protagonists. But then having only a sliver of screen time as the inquisitor probably wouldn't be hugely satisfying either. Bah. They have got their work cut out for them. :D
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We won't face Solas as the Inquisitor though. The player might feel the conflict, but the new PC, not so much. Well, at least in the way I roleplay.

 

Assuming that the DA4 PC will be just some guy called upon to deal with Solas, sure. But if Solas did something to make the conflict personal ...

 

Good example: Hawke was the first PC to deal with Corypheus, but the Elder One was the Inquisitor's rival because of what he did at the Conclave and at Haven.


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Assuming that the DA4 PC will be just some guy called upon to deal with Solas, sure. But if Solas did something to make the conflict personal ...
 
Good example: Hawke was the first PC to deal with Corypheus, but the Elder One was the Inquisitor's rival because of what he did at the Conclave and at Haven.

That's true, though I was more referring to the conflict of Solas being a former friend/lover of the PC. I think they'll write the plot in a way there'll be a rivarly between the new PC and Solas, but it'll be different from Solas/Inquisitor.
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Assuming that the DA4 PC will be just some guy called upon to deal with Solas, sure. But if Solas did something to make the conflict personal ...

 

 

Do you think the plan is really to make Solas the evil rival in the next game? It would be sad if it was, Solas is too good of a character for that.  :( It would be nice if they came up with solutions, it seems the more they push forward, the Darker the story gets and no matter what the main character does, Thedas will eventually be doomed anyway. I think i'm going to be more cautious with the next game.



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Do you think the plan is really to make Solas the evil rival in the next game? It would be sad if it was, Solas is too good of a character for that.  :( It would be nice if they came up with solutions, it seems the more they push forward, the Darker the story gets and no matter what the main character does, Thedas will eventually be doomed anyway. I think i'm going to be more cautious with the next game.


Fundamentally speaking, I feel Thedas is as safe from Solas as it was from Corypheus. Unless they make a hard turn with the story and change the reality of DA, I'm not overly concerned about will happen. I feel it would be something to the effect of the Mage Rebellion, which was major and unstoppable but not "doomsday." If I'm supposed to be afraid of just the foreboding idea of Solas' plans... Well, I'm not. I think I worry more for Solas himself than what he thinks he can accomplish? I don't know. The threat just doesn't feel that real to me yet.
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Fundamentally speaking, I feel Thedas is as safe from Solas as it was from Corypheus. Unless they make a hard turn with the story and change the reality of DA, I'm not overly concerned about will happen. I feel it would be something to the effect of the Mage Rebellion, which was major and unstoppable but not "doomsday." If I'm supposed to be afraid of just the foreboding idea of Solas' plans... Well, I'm not. I think I worry more for Solas himself than what he thinks he can accomplish? I don't know. The threat just doesn't feel that real to me yet.


If I'm honest? I'm rather curious what the world would be like if Solas had his way. Though I don't want everything destroyed to do it and the matter of people corrupting spirits is a huge concern. Still... I wonder...
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We won't face Solas as the Inquisitor though. The player might feel the conflict, but the new PC, not so much. Well, at least in the way I roleplay.
It'd have been actually really interesting to roleplay a Lavellan Who romanced Solas, that goes to stop him. It'd have make overcome my problems with the elves' anatomy.

Yeah, they through away a great situation just so they could keep their idiotic "new protagonist every game" rule. 


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Fundamentally speaking, I feel Thedas is as safe from Solas as it was from Corypheus. Unless they make a hard turn with the story and change the reality of DA, I'm not overly concerned about will happen. I feel it would be something to the effect of the Mage Rebellion, which was major and unstoppable but not "doomsday." If I'm supposed to be afraid of just the foreboding idea of Solas' plans... Well, I'm not. I think I worry more for Solas himself than what he thinks he can accomplish? I don't know. The threat just doesn't feel that real to me yet.

Yeah, I honestly don't think he'll succeed. Dragon Age simply isn't that kind of game. But I have a feeling it will be more cat and mouse, or chess playing, as the new DA4 protagonist faces off against Solas. Solas isn't a black hat wearing villain like Corypheus or the Archdemon/darkspawn h orde was. He's more nuanced, like Meredith was, doing what he feels needs to be done and limiting the collateral damage as he can. Which makes him far more dangerous. 

 

Like thats1evilguy said, it would be a very different game if they found a way to make it personal for the protagonist. It makes me wonder if the main antagonist will be some intermediary, like some Solas lieutenant, or perhaps a secondary bad that rises simultaneously, with the menace of Solas hanging over the whole game. I honestly don't expect Solas to even really show up until the end, like in Trespasser. Then, my Inquisitor damn well better be there!!!  :angry:


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Yeah, they through away a great situation just so they could keep their idiotic "new protagonist every game" rule.

As I said before, I don't think it's idiotic at all. I like it. I don't see the reason to build up Trespasser that way and then change PC though.
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As I said before, I don't think it's idiotic at all. I like it. I don't see the reason to build up Trespasser that way and then change PC though.

Exactly. If they stuck with what they did in the vanilla game where they foreshadowed with the scene between Solas and Flemeth, I'd be fine if they went a new PC since the Inquisitor's story was over, literally looking into the sunset(possibly with their love). But then Trespasser happened and dragged us back into the middle of it and made it extremely personal between the Inquisitor and Solas on a number of levels, only to drop that. 


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If I'm honest? I'm rather curious what the world would be like if Solas had his way. Though I don't want everything destroyed to do it and the matter of people corrupting spirits is a huge concern. Still... I wonder...

 

Same here. And I keep falling back into the parallels with the Legend of Korra. It's almost how he describes it in the beginning of DAI -- "Where spirits are as common as grass." There's also the idea out there that people could suddenly become mages with the Veil gone, just like how some people suddenly became airbenders. Not the same thing, I know, but... If we could have the DA version of Korra without complete and utter devastation, that would be interesting.
 

I honestly don't expect Solas to even really show up until the end, like in Trespasser. Then, my Inquisitor damn well better be there!!! :angry:

 

Indeed! I was one of the (un)lucky ones to romance Solas on my first playthrough, too. I doubt it'll be unresolved, but the waiting in the meantime... :unsure:


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Same here. And I keep falling back into the parallels with the Legend of Korra. It's almost how he describes it in the beginning of DAI -- "Where spirits are as common as grass." There's also the idea out there that people could become suddenly become mages with the Veil gone, just like how some people suddenly became airbenders. Not the same thing, I know, but... If we could have the DA version of Korra without complete and utter devastation, that would be interesting.

Offtopic, but... *shudders* Korra. Worst Avatar ever. 



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Yeah, they through away a great situation just so they could keep their idiotic "new protagonist every game" rule.


What if -PLOT TWIST!- they give the player a choice between the Warden, Hawke or the Inquisitor as the PC? Kind of like an origin story? Only instead of personal stories, their background is about their past tango in the fate of Thedas. And what they were up to since they were last seen. I think it'd be a brilliant way to end the series actually. Like coming back full circle.
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What if -PLOT TWIST!- they give the player a choice between the Warden, Hawke or the Inquisitor as the PC? Kind of like an origin story? Only instead of personal stories, their background is about their past tango in the fate of Thedas. I think it'd be a brilliant way to end the series actually. Like coming back full circle.

Won't happen. Warden can be dead, Hawke can be 'dead', and unless they want to introduce prosthetics the Inquisitor is out.



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I don't think they want to end the series though.
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Offtopic, but... *shudders* Korra. Worst Avatar ever. 

 

lol, maybe. But she did fulfill the original purpose of the Avatar by uniting the spirits and mortals in one realm. Not flawlessly, but she's headed in the right direction.



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What if -PLOT TWIST!- they give the player a choice between the Warden, Hawke or the Inquisitor as the PC? Kind of like an origin story? Only instead of personal stories, their background is about their past tango in the fate of Thedas. And what they were up to since they were last seen. I think it'd be a brilliant way to end the series actually. Like coming back full circle.

That would be very cool, but I would be highly surprised if their goal was to stop making Dragon Age games. Tie up old PC loose ends? Sure. Kill off old PCs to ensure that? Even better. But they want to keep telling stories. 

 

This is what makes the build up of Trespasser and the Solas Big Bad even odder. It's like they've set up DA:I Part 1 and Part 2. Hmm.  <_<


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lol, maybe. But she did fulfill the original purpose of the Avatar by uniting the spirits and mortals in one realm. Not flawlessly, but she's headed in the right direction.

The two kinds have been around each other only a couple years, and those have been bumpy. We'll see how long the peace lasts. Hopefully the Avatar after Korra will do a better job, though to be fair that isn't a large hurdle since they can't do any worse.