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All of the above. :P Go me!

I have a feeling she's going to be crying to Varric over beers about her horrible green glowy hand.

Do you have a race picked out? Right now my first character will be whatever gender, race or class gets Cullen. Pathetic? Kinda. Practical? Why yes!
I've been excited about his romance for a long time though so it would feel weird if I didn't do that. Impatient me of past and present will be so mad if future me accidentally romances someone else my first game....like I've accidentally done IN ALL MY FIRST PLAY THROUGHS! The trend stops in DA:I :D
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lol, I ran out of likes  :lol:
And I believed I wasn't a very emotional person.
@TreeHuggerHannah when Cullen confronted Meredith about those 3 mages, I lost my jaw on the floor. I never thought he would be able to trust mages again.
He also spared Alain earlier, although Alain was totally a blood mage, who just promised not to do anything evil  :lol:
It was not only opposite of what Cullen wanted in the end of Broken Circle, it was the opposite of what Cullen was saying in the first act of DAII. That was really bada*s!


Whoah really? I either forgot that or didn't see it. Do you have a link to a video of that? Or just describe what happened in detail lol! (Sorry!)

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I want to play a character who is in no way suited to lead themselves to lunch, much less an Inquisition. They'd end up having to anyway, but I hope some "I shouldn't be here" lines are lightly sprinkled across the game.

 

Cause so far it seems like the only reason the Inquisitor is the Inquisitor is because of the lamp hand.  :alien:

 

Uh like! First time out of likes, damn Cullen party XD

I played Warden likes this, she was complaining always when there was chance. I hope there is change to complain being Inquisitor as well.



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Do you have a race picked out? Right now my first play through will be whatever gender, race or class gets Cullen. Pathetic? Kinda. Practical? Why yes!
I've been waiting so long to not let that be my first play through though. Impatient me of past and present will be so mad if future me accidentally romances someone else my first play through....like I've accidentally done IN ALL MY FIRST PLAY THROUGHS! The trend stops in DA:I :D

 

Yeah, she's a human mage. It's unfortunately pretty integral to her character and can't be changed without making her a totally different person. If Cullen doesn't want her, then tough, I guess? And better luck to me in future playthroughs! 

 

I support your practicality.  ;)


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Whoah really? I either forgot that or didn't see it. Do you have a link to a video of that? Or just describe what happened in detail lol! (Sorry!)

 

About Alain, or when he stood up for the maybe-blood mages?



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Alain can be executed though. If you don't urge Cullen to put in word for him (from Hawke), the next time you speak to Cullen in the gallows you'll get a real creepy line from him (paraphrased) "Did you not see the bodies when you walked in? They're an example for all who oppose Meredith." 



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Whoah really? I either forgot that or didn't see it. Do you have a link to a video of that? Or just describe what happened in detail lol! (Sorry!)

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lol, I ran out of likes  :lol:

And I believed I wasn't a very emotional person.

@TreeHuggerHannah when Cullen confronted Meredith about those 3 mages, I lost my jaw on the floor. I never thought he would be able to trust mages again.

He also spared Alain earlier, although Alain was totally a blood mage, who just promised not to do anything evil  :lol:

It was not only opposite of what Cullen wanted in the end of Broken Circle, it was the opposite of what Cullen was saying in the first act of DAII. That was really bada*s!

 

I think what did it for me was that Cullen had no evidence that he could trust those mages, he was simply giving them the benefit of the doubt because they couldn't be sure either way - and also that he brought up Kinloch Hold as an example of what should be done if you went against what he recommended at the time.

 

Cullen is a complicated guy, to put it mildly.



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Wow, I didn't know about this!  :o I have to say, I like the reaper motivation they went with in the end. It's more classically "hard" science fiction, imo. But the other one is interesting, too. Wouldn't have made me think as much though.

 

I prefer the original motivation, although it still falls prey to the same twisted logic as the Starchild ending, "Reapers want to prevent races from using Mass Effect technology which damages the universe... by wiping out all life and leaving behind the Mass Effect technology for them to find."

 

Plus it had some set-up in ME2 with the Haestrom sun. The real problem with the Starchild ending was it coming out of nowhere in the last five minutes and completely derailing the plot. When you need the entire Leviathan DLC to provide the only set up and explanation for the ending, you've pretty much failed narrative theory altogether. The set up should always come before the pay-off. It's fine to go back later and provide more context or even shed an alternate light on that pay-off, but you need to establish the premise first to make the audience accept it.

 

I always felt that Leviathan and From Ashes should have been integral parts of the game and provided us with a ton of set-up and hints at something larger going on with the Reapers that we didn't know, rather than tacked on DLC after the fact. I loved both DLC, but I felt they needed to have been grounded in the main games plot a heck of a lot more than they really were.

 

I'm considering starting KOTOR, thoughts? 

 

Play it and you'll have the time of your life.

 

Also avoid about a hundred pages back because I talked about the romance and I got a little spoiler-y, mea culpa.

 

(Well, it was released over a decade ago, I figured the spoiler warning had expired) :blush:


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Speaking of Andraste, I'm curious if having the blast happen at the urn of sacred ashes and having our protag walk out of the fade will be of a great religious significance? 
 
I imagine we'll be blamed for it by some, but would others look at the Inquisitor as some sort of second coming? Maybe some far off village is sacrificing goats in our name.

Depending on the race. I can see it happening for humans. For elves, dwarves and qunari, not much. Not to mention mages :lol:.

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Would I enjoy KOTOR if I only like (not love) Star Wars?



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Would I enjoy KOTOR if I only like (not love) Star Wars?

 

Yes. I played KOTOR before I have even seen Star Wars and I enjoyed it.  ;)



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Cullen is a complicated guy, to put it mildly.

Yes, it's great that he doesn't allow his personal feelings to cloud his judgement.



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I need to head to bed, workday tomorrow and all! Goodnight, Cullenites!  :)



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Depending on the race. I can see it happening for humans. For elves, dwarves and qunari, not much. Not to mention mages :lol:.

 

That's because humans will never accept a non-human messiah... unless it's Optimus Prime, because robots are awesome.

 

And judging from the burnt book gift for Wynne in Origins, they're not fond of any "Wizard Jesus" theories about Andraste either. :lol:


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That's because humans will never accept a non-human messiah... unless it's Optimus Prime, because robots are awesome.
 
And judging from the burnt book gift for Wynne in Origins, they're not fond of any "Wizard Jesus" theories about Andraste either. :lol:

Indeed. Though on the latter, it'd true for the White Chantry countries. The Tevinters support the theory of Andraste being a mage.

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Oh no Cullen! "You mean he was one of them until a convient last minute change of heart!"
I laughed so hard at that line because so many people say that about Cullen.

Thank you for the video! I remember the quest but not the Alain kid :)
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#14743
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Oh no Cullen! "You mean he was one of them until a convient last minute change of heart!"
I laughed so hard at that line because so many people say that about Cullen.

Thank you for the video! I remember the quest but not the Alain kid :)

lmao, never thought about it this way before.

Also, that was kind of sassy, wasn't it?  =] I bet chatting with him in DAI will be interesting (can't wait! shoot me!) 

 

P.S. in Cullen's defence regarding Alain - I forgot that Cullen didn't know that kid was a blood mage, and nobody told him, lol. Not guilty. Case closed!


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#14744
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Man, I would love a sort of... dream section in the game or something for just mage Inquisitors that show how actually dangerous being a mage is. I always felt so detached from that part of the lore thanks to how the player character was never once threatened. 

 

I think I just like being mean to my player characters, though, as my poor Hawke knows.  :lol:


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#14745
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Man, I would love a sort of... dream section in the game or something for just mage Inquisitors that show how actually dangerous being a mage is. I always felt so detached from that part of the law thanks to how the player character was never once threatened. 

 

I think I just like being mean to my player characters, though, as my poor Hawke knows.  :lol:

 

Now that would be an amazing sequence, perhaps the Mage!Inquisitor could get briefly possessed like Connor, so we take control of one of our party Mages to enter the Fade and slay the Demon. We keep switching back to the rest of the party as they're nervously standing by, Cassandra and Cullen standing by to slay them in case it fails or if both end up getting possessed, while the rest of the party argue about going through with it.

 

Given that going into face Connor's demon was meant to be insanely risky in DAO, it'd be nice to see some actual danger this time around, perhaps throw in a few Non-Standard Game Overs if we don't do it exactly right.

 

The scene pretty much writes itself, doesn't it?


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If it makes you feel any better we'll be 161(+) days away from sleeping :P


Lol, sorry! But I appreciate all of the blood, sweat, and tears y'all have put into making the game amazing for us! :D
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Stupid iPhone, double post fail. :P

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Btw, Allan, I love how you're lurking on us Cullenites, lol. We're being good and behaved, see! :P :D

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GE is such a nice man to do this for his fans...Bioware too.

 

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He really is a very nice man :)



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Now that would be an amazing sequence, perhaps the Mage!Inquisitor could get briefly possessed like Connor, so we take control of one of our party Mages to enter the Fade and slay the Demon. We keep switching back to the rest of the party as they're nervously standing by, Cassandra and Cullen standing by to slay them in case it fails or if both end up getting possessed, while the rest of the party argue about going through with it.

 

Given that going into face Connor's demon was meant to be insanely risky in DAO, it'd be nice to see some actual danger this time around, perhaps throw in a few Non-Standard Game Overs if we don't do it exactly right.

 

The scene pretty much writes itself, doesn't it?

I kind of hope this will never happen. I'm still traumatized by what happened to Anders. Besides, Connor made a deal with a demon. Anders made a deal with a spirit. Making deals with demons is VERY stupid. I can't bear the thought that my character can be that stupid. That would be a huge insult :) In DAII I was facepalming and pulling my hair when Hawke didn't figure out who was courting her mother, while I put it together instantly. I hate that feeling, when you know your character is doing something really stupid, but you can't do anything about it.

I think the Fade is difficult to implement in game properly, because it can't fool the player. The player remembers that they were doing this and that, but the character is supposed to be distracted by the images and promises of something they really want. Demons are difficult to implement as well, because we, players, know that it's a trap, and if we do something wrong - it's "game over". Fanfiction does it better. I really enjoy reading what fans write about the Fade :) But to get the same feeling in the game I think we need to extend the canon with our own ideas, try to role-play what's going on.

To become possessed you need a really good reason. Like, you get possessed, and use the demon's aid (although we know that demons don't really aid) to save somebody you really care about. Maybe a key strategic point is under attack, and you need a leverage. But at the same time - you are the only person who can close the marble jaws of oblivion the breaches in the Veil. If you surrender to demons, that basically means the end of the world. I just don't see how the Inquisitor may be convinced to give themselves to a demon.


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