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[Phate Phoenix]

Anders and Cullen bickering back and forth with the same voice would have been a great kind of awkward. 

 

Awkward is... one word for it. 

[Lorien19]

You guys ever get really hungry and have no idea what you want but you're pretty sure you want it to be unhealthy?

Yeah,Plenty of times,it's worse if I want something sweet!

[BFace]

Anders and Cullen bickering back and forth with the same voice would have been a great kind of awkward. 

Not potentially. Mr. Ellis is *good* at what he does, and in DA2 (it's the quickest example my brain is pulling up), my example is Alec Newman. There's a scene in which, if you have Sebastian in your party, both he and Seneschal Bran speak, and I would never have noticed they were the same voice actor (I didn't notice at all the first time through), if I hadn't already known. So, a good V/O *could* pull it off.  

 

But I do see your point.

[Lorien19]

Anders and Cullen bickering back and forth with the same voice would have been a great kind of awkward. 

Yeah,as much I love hearing GE's voice, I'd be slightly creeped out if that happened...

[Jean]

Not potentially. Mr. Ellis is *good* at what he does, and in DA2 (it's the quickest example my brain is pulling up), my example is Alec Newman. There's a scene in which, if you have Sebastian in your party, both he and Seneschal Bran speak, and I would never have noticed they were the same voice actor (I didn't notice at all the first time through), if I hadn't already known. So, a good V/O *could* pull it off.

 

But I do see your point.

Mr. Ellis definitely used a whole different tone of voice with Anders than he did Cullen, but I could still definitely tell they were the same VO guy.

 

Like Kaidan and Carth: Undoubtedly the same voice, completely different voice frame.

[MageTarot]

Bah, try having a gay Warden who's in a serious relationship with Zevran... he agrees reluctantly to do the DR; cut to a scene of him lying in his undies on the bed smiling like an excited lech as half-naked Morrigan (whom he hates and has low friendship with) crawls seductively towards him.

 

Pretty much ruined the whole ending for me and just left this feeling of bile in my mouth.

 

...and that's when the advantage of PC gaming comes through once again. I installed the "Equal Love" mod so my male rogue Cousland noble:

 

1) Romanced Alistair

2) Married Alistair

3) Ruled alongside Alistair.  O_o

 

I've mentioned this in other forums but it never gets old. After the Landsmeet when I decided Alistair will be king and I would rule with him, there's the cutscene when Alistair asks if I'm certain about marrying him...and one of the dialogue choices is "I can think of worse things than being a queen."

 

I couldn't agree more. 

 

(oh, and my Warden did the dark ritual, I'd like to think that large amounts of alcohol were involved. Actually it's pretty damned likely.)

[ilikesocks]

Basically if you ever read back through his tweets he's always making crude comments about women. Tweeting about a fat woman who served him coffee or a woman with BO. It's really insulting. He is really insulting. And I'm sure he just feeds off fangirls. You'd never catch GE doing that. Howden has completely ruined Anders for me.

Yeah, I see. I'm all about some sarcasm, but, he can GTFO with all that. Bioware shouldn't pay him a dime or better yet, hire him to do any sort of voice acting, period.

[thats1evildude]

You know, to hear you guys talk, I must have had the only Warden in the entire universe who looked uneasy about the prospect of sleeping with Morrigan.

[faerie dragon]

Basically if you ever read back through his tweets he's always making crude comments about women. Tweeting about a fat woman who served him coffee or a woman with BO. It's really insulting. He is really insulting. And I'm sure he just feeds off fangirls. You'd never catch GE doing that. Howden has completely ruined Anders for me.

 

Wow, indeed.  I don't even feel the least bit sorry for this story, then.

 

The first time I played DA2, I romanced Anders, but wasn't really feeling the magic, so to speak.  On the quest where we first come across Cullen, I forgot who the templar was we were supposed to find.  So I was just going along, climbed the hill to loot some stuff, went back down and around the corner, and there was this cut scene with this templar, with this voice!  At that moment, I wanted to dump Anders for this sexy templar.  And then I realized it was Cullen.  And then I realized it was Greg Ellis, the man who should have been Anders.  It still makes me laugh to remember it.

 

I can understand why they changed it, but I thought Anders was so different that they really needed something to anchor him back to the character he was.  I liked the writing overall, but I really wanted the option to break up with him once Hawke realizes he lied about the potion and is up to no good.  I thought his voice made him sound like a creep...which I guess works with the whole abomination thing.  It makes his character all the more tragic.

 

I think it's funny that my latest character, an apostate who only pretended to side with the templars to protect herself, actually came to consider Cullen a friend (even when she thought she was lying about it).  He's just impossible to resist!

[CuriousArtemis]

You guys ever get really hungry and have no idea what you want but you're pretty sure you want it to be unhealthy?

 

That's when I decide to spontaneously bake... and I don't use Splenda 

 

So bad, I know!

[Lorien19]

You know, to hear you guys talk, I must have had the only Warden in the entire universe whose Warden looked uneasy about the prospect of sleeping with Morrigan.

Not really,my male Amell who actually romanced her,looked quite sad/worried/uneasy when the cutscene played.

[Creeper Cat]

You guys ever get really hungry and have no idea what you want but you're pretty sure you want it to be unhealthy?

Every moment of every day of my life, friend. *sigh*

[Jean]

I always thought Alistair/Loghain/m!warden looked mortified in the scene.

[Melca36]

type of dialogue I'd like to see with Cullen and the Inquisitor

 

 

 

Inquisitor: Cassandra and Varric told me there were a great many acts of abuse and other atrocities committed by some of the Templars at Kirkwall's circle.  Mages who passed their Harrowing being made tranquil, torture...rape.

 

Cullen: Yes...there were...incidents

 

Inquisitor: (Chuckles) Incidents? Is that what you call it?  I was also told you about the incident at the Circle in Ferelden and your torture.

 

Cullen: Just what are you implying Inquisitor?

 

Inquisitor: Given what I read, the testimony from both the templars and mages at Kirkwall that there was no way you could  have not seen what occurred and what I think is your experience in Ferelden angered you to the point that you didn't care. You wanted to see those mages suffer because you suffered and you only changed when you saw how out of control Meredith was.

 

Cullen: (Stands up) Alright I admit it!  I ignored it in the beginning because I wanted them to suffer! I wanted then to feel what I endured! I should have spoke up earlier! I should have intervened! Perhaps I could have prevented what happened. But I didn't and when the time comes I fully expect to answer to the Maker for my actions. Are you satisified with my answer Inquisitor?

 

Inquisitor: I am. Now that you basically admitted the fault lies on both sides. You've made another step forward and I no longer am worried about sleeping with one eye opened...

 

Cullen: (Sexual tension stare) I hate you 

 

Inquisitor: (Walks towards Cullen and sexual tension stares back) We don't have to like each other we just have to work together.

 

(Inquisitor turns and walks away as Cullen watches)

[thats1evildude]

I actually felt sorry for my Warden. He looked like Morrigan was going to chew his face off.

"Sorry, dude, I'd take that bullet for you if I could, but I'm just the guy with the controller."

[BioFan (Official)]

 

LOL Had to share!

 

 

HOW DID YOU READ MY MIND!?!?!

[Lorien19]

type of dialogue I'd like to see with Cullen and the Inquisitor

 

 

Cullen: (Sexual tension stare) I hate you 

 

Inquisitor: (Walks towards Cullen and sexual tension stares back) We don't have to like each other we just have to work together.

 

(Inquisitor turns and walks away as Cullen watches)

I expect many conversations, between my Inquisitor and Cullen ending this way(in my imagination at least),until they finally cannot resist the sexual tension stares and jump each other on the spot...  
While I'm clapping like a seal on the other side of the screen...

[Phate Phoenix]

type of dialogue I'd like to see with Cullen and the Inquisitor

 

*SNIP*

 

I'd like to be able to confront Cullen over what happened in Kirkwall. Or, if the Inquisitor can't (why would we know? when would we have heard about the atrocities committed in Kirkwall? how can newcomers know and understand the extent of it?) perhaps Varric could step in and interrogate him. Varric a safe character to do it, as he's supposed to be our buddy, at least at the beginning. He was friends with a mage in Kirkwall (Anders, Merrill, Bethany, Hawke) and he probably has better insider information about everything that happened than Hawke did. Plus, it'd be a way to explain to new players what happened in Kirkwall, from both exterior and interior perspectives.

[SamaraDraven]

Tbh, I think Cullen would have been stonewalled, if he tried to investigate. He probably had to find "proof" before he could do anything because Meredith wouldn't want to besmirch the Order's name with such grave accusations without undeniable "facts". But all the obstructionism left him with was only the mages' word and we know how much credit Meredith would give that.

[CuriousArtemis]

I'd like to be able to confront Cullen over what happened in Kirkwall. Or, if the Inquisitor can't (why would we know? when would we have heard about the atrocities committed in Kirkwall? how can newcomers know and understand the extent of it?) perhaps Varric could step in and interrogate him.

 

Games aren't always THAT kind to newbies though. When I first played ME3, I couldn't figure out what Kaidan's deal was on Mars. I was like, why is he so mad at me? Wow, he's kind of sexy when he's mad... etc. etc. They didn't hold your hand as far as Cerberus and what happened to Shepard is concerned. I never did quite figure out what Shepard had done in previous games though. 

[Phate Phoenix]

Games aren't always THAT kind to newbies though. When I first played ME3, I couldn't figure out what Kaidan's deal was on Mars. I was like, why is he so mad at me? Wow, he's kind of sexy when he's mad... etc. etc. They didn't hold your hand as far as Cerberus and what happened to Shepard is concerned. I never did quite figure out what Shepard had done in previous games though. 

 

Huh, that's true.  I think, perhaps, the difference is that instead having Kaiden accusing Shepard of something, it would be Shepard accusing Kaidan of something. Would that make a big difference, the fact that your character is apparently mad/approving of something you had no background for? I don't know.

[VampOrchid]

You guys ever get really hungry and have no idea what you want but you're pretty sure you want it to be unhealthy?

 

That's when I go for a snack platter, fruit, vegies and dip.

[CuriousArtemis]

Huh, that's true.  I think, perhaps, the difference is that instead having Kaiden accusing Shepard of something, it would be Shepard accusing Kaidan of something. Would that make a big difference, the fact that your character is apparently mad/approving of something you had no background for? I don't know.

 

I think it's like you said, Varric would have to bring it up first. Then the quizzy is all, You WHAT?! Cullen: *conscious of his honor, straightens his shoulders and tries to give a dignified, reasoned response for what happened*  Your quizzy: *now has several options: I understand, that's still terrible, etc.*

[Karm]

That's when I decide to spontaneously bake... and I don't use Splenda 

 

So bad, I know!

 

[Lorien19]

Tbh, I think Cullen would have been stonewalled, if he tried to investigate. He probably had to find "proof" before he could anything because Meredith wouldn't want to besmirch the Order's name with such grave accusations without undeniable "facts". But all the obstructionism left him with was only a mage's word and we know how much credit Meredith would give that.

I personally think the same,I imagine he'd probably bring it up at some point most likely to Meredith,and I assume she'd dismiss it as rumours,for many reasons one of them being the one you mentioned about her demanding proof.
Another being the fact that she was the knight commander of that particular circle and if word went out of the atrocities that happened in the gallows,her reputation would be probably ruined,the seekers would become noisy,and they'd also probably loose the "support" or tolerance of the people,Cullen already mentions that the templars are disliked.
In the end of the day she might have not believed a single word of it,and refused to investigate further.