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#15451
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Man, if something happens we could blow past page 1000. :lol: We'd have to wait for page, say, 1500.

 

Exactly. Or better yet, he'd do something while we're celebrating and the enslaught of joy here would bury all of our hard work from sight.


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Just heard TotalBiscuit has bowel cancer. So sad.


Damn :(. I lost my mother and three relatives for cancer. I hope he'll be all right.
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My contribution to the upcoming celebration turned out to be too sad. I'll probably post it afterwards, don't want to ruin the fun :)



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Morning all.

 

Been gone for quite a few hours, nice to see everyone keeping up the insane pace, lol :P


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I actually have a list on my phone of who may or may not be a companion and romance - I updated it as each companion was revealed.  :blush: So to keep it organized, I will ask if anyone knows for SURE if the 4 romances is restricted to the companions and the NPCs are extra, or are they included? 

 

The only things confirmed about romances are: there will be differing sexualities, Cassandra is a LI, Cullen is a LI.

 

More info required!  :lol:


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type of dialogue I'd like to see with Cullen and the Inquisitor :wizard: :devil: :wizard: :devil:



Inquisitor: Cassandra and Varric told me there were a great many acts of abuse and other atrocities committed by some of the Templars at Kirkwall's circle. Mages who passed their Harrowing being made tranquil, torture...rape.

Cullen: Yes...there were...incidents

Inquisitor: (Chuckles) Incidents? Is that what you call it? I was also told you about the incident at the Circle in Ferelden and your torture.

Cullen: Just what are you implying Inquisitor?

Inquisitor: Given what I read, the testimony from both the templars and mages at Kirkwall that there was no way you could have not seen what occurred and what I think is your experience in Ferelden angered you to the point that you didn't care. You wanted to see those mages suffer because you suffered and you only changed when you saw how out of control Meredith was.

Cullen: (Stands up) Alright I admit it! I ignored it in the beginning because I wanted them to suffer! I wanted then to feel what I endured! I should have spoke up earlier! I should have intervened! Perhaps I could have prevented what happened. But I didn't and when the time comes I fully expect to answer to the Maker for my actions. Are you satisified with my answer Inquisitor?

Inquisitor: I am. Now that you basically admitted the fault lies on both sides. You've made another step forward and I no longer am worried about sleeping with one eye opened...

Cullen: (Sexual tension stare) I hate you

Inquisitor: (Walks towards Cullen and sexual tension stares back) We don't have to like each other we just have to work together.

(Inquisitor turns and walks away as Cullen watches)


If he ever says anything about knowing and not doing anything to help them, AND essentially thought they initially deserved it then he's getting the murder knife. Singing or not.
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If he ever says anything about knowing and not doing anything to help them, AND essentially thought they initially deserved it then he's getting the murder knife. Singing or not.

Ditto. There is no excuse, if he did indeed know the truth of what was going on. I'd boil his blood, no questions asked.


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If he ever says anything about knowing and not doing anything to help them, AND essentially thought they initially deserved it then he's getting the murder knife. Singing or not.

 

Yuuup! I mean, I might make a few characters who wouldn't care (qunari who believes in the methods of the Qun in relation to Saarebas?) but most character would be all for the face-punching. Because I don't think we can murder-knife our advisors until late-game.



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I don't actually think that due to their role the advisors can be killed or dismissed.
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Yuuup! I mean, I might make a few characters who wouldn't care (qunari who believes in the methods of the Qun in relation to Saarebas?) but most character would be all for the face-punching. Because I don't think we can murder-knife our advisors until late-game.

 

 

Now I kind of want my first gal to be, not exactly anti-mage, but afraid of them - until she ends up with a glowy green fade hand. So then she's conflicted, just like Cullen :)



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I don't actually think that due to their role the advisors can be killed or dismissed.

Then hopefully Cullen won't spout any of that bullsh*t.


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Pretty sure Gaider confirmed he was oblivious to it?

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Pretty sure Gaider confirmed he was oblivious to it?

He didn't. We have no dev oversight on this situation.



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If he ever says anything about knowing and not doing anything to help them, AND essentially thought they initially deserved it then he's getting the murder knife. Singing or not.

 

My guess is that he didn't fully know what was going on. He always seem suprised when Hawke comes up with info about what is happening. I think he heard rumours and stuff but didn't make effort to investigate them, that might be cause he has resentment toward mages and was too busy and tired with his job and own problems to actually .. wake up and take action. Well this is only my guess and headcanon so far, I hope DAI opens up more what Cullen was thinking during DA2 and where he stands :)


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Now I kind of want my first gal to be, not exactly anti-mage, but afraid of them - until she ends up with a glowy green fade hand. So then she's conflicted, just like Cullen :)


Mine will be very worried about the Fade hand. And incredibly afraid she might be possessed or something.
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#15466
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He didn't. We have no dev oversight on this situation.


I'm probably conflating two things then. But I definitely remember him saying something similar.
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#15467
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Cullen holds the Templar Order to a pretty high standard. He trusts in the Order and in the Maker and believes that Andrasteism is the one true religion. I think he would have little patience for templars who do not act according to what is considered right by the Order and the Maker or who in some other way defile the order. I doubt he'd look the other way if he saw mages being abused by templars (beyond the fact that they're locked up in a tower).


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#15468
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Cullen holds the Templar Order to a pretty high standard. He trusts in the Order and in the Maker and believes that Andrasteism is the one true religion. I think he would have little patience for templars who do not act according to what is considered right by the Order and the Maker or who in some other way defile the order.

And yet, he still chose to ignore Meredith's obviously growing paranoia.



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Yuuup! I mean, I might make a few characters who wouldn't care (qunari who believes in the methods of the Qun in relation to Saarebas?) but most character would be all for the face-punching. Because I don't think we can murder-knife our advisors until late-game.

Pretty much this It will depend on my inquisitors and their alignment...I imagine my Dalish mage would be furious,circle or not she's still a mage.

My dwarf being lawful good will disapprove,my qunari who is neutral won't care about his past as long as his good on his job and finally my human rogue who is a chaotic neutral would be too busy partying to care.

But hopefully he wasn't aware of it or if he was suspicious at least,he was somehow prevented from investigating further...I don't know I believe he was characterized as a good guy by the devs,someone who represents that not all templars are evil and enjoy torturing mages,despite his negative experiences with magic...What kind of good guy would approve of such atrocities, happening under his nose without interfering?


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And yet, he still chose to ignore Meredith's obviously growing paranoia.

 

I think that had to do with him wanting to believe in the order and believe that his superior in the order was right. He gave her the benefit of a doubt for too long, but eventually he did stand up to her.

At least that's how I view it. Y'all are free to disagree :P


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Cullen holds the Templar Order to a pretty high standard. He trusts in the Order and in the Maker and believes that Andrasteism is the one true religion. I think he would have little patience for templars who do not act according to what is considered right by the Order and the Maker or who in some other way defile the order. I doubt he'd look the other way if he saw mages being abused by templars.

 

I'm with you. He has conviction and dedication to his beliefs. What's interesting to me is that after DAO, I thought he'd be joining the extremists...what he witnessed and experienced considered. Logically speaking, if we likened what he experienced to those of real people...well, one could expect a myriad of mental anguish, distrust, paranoia, etc.

 

Aaaaand then we see him in DA2 and have to wonder if he's even paying attention. I like to think that it isn't a lack of character development, but a puzzle piece we're still waiting on.

 

And yet, he still chose to ignore Meredith's obviously growing paranoia.

 

TRUE. And perplexing.



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I think that had to do with him wanting to believe in the order and believe that his superior in the order was right. He gave her the benefit of a doubt for too long, but eventually he did stand up to her.

At least that's how I view it. Y'all are free to disagree :P

True, he did stand up to her at the end, but after half the damn Circle had been Annulled.



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To be honest I'm going to assume Cullen didn't know about the rapes and the like, same with Meredith, actually. Yeah, Meredith was harsh and was slowly going cray cray because of the red lyrium, but I doubt she'd ignore something like that, either. It doesn't seem to mesh with her character. 

 

Or, if they did know that rapes might have been occurring, there was an on going investigation we didn't even know about. 

 

Honestly, I'm just getting sick of the way the writing is set up to make us see Templars as arseholes UNLESS they fully support mages like Thrask. I really NEED a Templar that is properly wary of magic but isn't about to put up with extremest crap from his or her own.


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umm is this convo gonna turn into another mage vs templar debate? Personally I dont think Cullen knew about anything that was going on.. and if he was so ruthless  and wanted every mage to suffer just because he did he wouldn't have spared those 3 mages , he could have easily  say 

" destroy them all why should I care let them burn " type of thing but he didn't so thats my take on it


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True, he did stand up to her at the end, but after half the damn Circle had been Annulled.

True as well,although I really don't know what to think on this,but  truth be told if he did stand up to her sooner then we'd loose game play...If you think of it templar Carver doesn't stand up to her either until the end,and he's Hawke's sibling.


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