Pro-Circle could simply mean you support the idea of a system that educates mages. It doesn't need Templars or Chantry involved.
Very true. I'm interested to see where Vibienne will stand on this, as well as Cullen. Maybe he'll see a comprise of sorts?
I don't think he enjoys killing mages. But no, he didn't particularly care for mages either in DAII. He was more worried about how the situation went bad into the circle of Kirkwall, between the templars and mages, and how it was dangerous for stability and security. He was very ambiguous. That's what makes him interesting to me. He stopped a slaughter, after seeing the blood bath. I don't blame him at all for that, and it's quite normal.
I think Cullen we be more comprehensive about mages and their situation, while remaining cautious, reasonable.
as for the moderation... i don't think Cullen's opinion on mages changed during DA2. i mean, look at his dialogue regarding Alain in Best Served Cold. he's, to put it lightly, distrustful. he doesn't seem hateful tho, he simply see mages as prisoners who he's sworn to guard.
That's pretty much the right word in my opinion...He's indeed weary of mages after the events of broken circle,although I have a feeling that he might be equally wary of templars as well in inquistion,after the whole chaos caused by the schism and red lyrium.Tha's one of the main reasons I can't wait to see how he evolve as a chracter in inquisition.He've pretty much seen everything...
Meh, if anyone gets nasty just block them and that goes for both sides. Personally I'm thinking about ducking out of the Cullen thread altogether, it's not the same as it used to be. Hell, we finally got Cullen. Mission accomplished, I'm golden.
I don't think he enjoys killing mages. But no, he didn't particularly care for mages either in DAII. He was more worried about how the situation went bad into the circle of Kirkwall, between the templars and mages, and how it was dangerous for stability and security. He was very ambiguous. That's what makes him interesting to me. He stopped a slaughter, after seeing the blood bath. I don't blame him at all for that, and it's quite normal.
I think Cullen we be more comprehensive about mages and their situation, while remaining cautious, reasonable.
This is similar to what I was trying to say, not that it mattered to those that just wanted to dismiss what I said and twist it to mean something else. 
*fails at sticking to her guns, but need to agree with thiiiis*
True, but then you need to add the faction, libertarians or such. So just saying pro Circle should mean the default state of how it was all set up before the brake down. Using those terms without the clarification does not work.Pro-Circle could simply mean you support the idea of a system that educates mages. It doesn't need Templars or Chantry involved.
That's pretty much the right word in my opinion...He's indeed weary of mages after the events of broken circle,although I have a feeling that he might be equally wary of templars as well in inquistion,after the whole chaos caused by the schism and red lyrium.Tha's one of the main reasons I can't wait to see how he evolve as a chracter in inquisition.He've pretty much seen everything...
i want to have Cass, Viv and Cullen in party now, imagine the banter! 
This is similar to what I was trying to say, not that it mattered to those that just wanted to dismiss what I said and twist it to mean something else.
*fails at sticking to her guns, but need to agree with thiiiis*
okay but you can stop passive aggressively posting about me because i've stopped completely as well, i mean really how old are you?
I don't think he enjoys killing mages. But no, he didn't particularly care for mages either in DAII. He was more worried about how the situation went bad into the circle of Kirkwall, between the templars and mages, and how it was dangerous for stability and security. He was very ambiguous. That's what makes him interesting to me. He stopped a slaughter, after seeing the blood bath. I don't blame him at all for that, and it's quite normal.
I think Cullen we be more comprehensive about mages and their situation, while remaining cautious, reasonable.
okay but you can stop passive aggressively posting about me because i've stopped completely as well, i mean really how old are you?
Passive aggressive and just annoyed at how you treated me and other people without so much as an acknowledgement to how dismissive you were acting. But I'll admit I'm being a bit of an arse.
Sorry.
Sometimes I let the temper get the best of me when I shouldn't. ><
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okay but you can stop passive aggressively posting about me because i've stopped completely as well, i mean really how old are you?
I've been lurking throughout all of this and I agree, I think you were a little misunderstood in the beginning and I can relate to that. Sometimes things don't always come out the way we have intended them to. You put an end to it and yet I feel like you're still being antagonized. Let's all agree to stop, be adults, and put this to bed, no matter which side of the argument you were on. And this includes in the Dragon Age 2 thread, there's no reason to be talking about her in there. Come on now, guys, you're making us all look bad. We should be able to handle an opposing view.
She had her rights to bring up what she did, it was discussed and now it is over.
I think Cullen will be pro-templar but my Dalish Mage will persuade him to be otherwise, hehehehe! 
Please don't insult people.okay but you can stop passive aggressively posting about me because i've stopped completely as well, i mean really how old are you?
as for the moderation... i don't think Cullen's opinion on mages changed during DA2. i mean, look at his dialogue regarding Alain in Best Served Cold. he's, to put it lightly, distrustful. he doesn't seem hateful tho, he simply see mages as prisoners who he's sworn to guared.
Well I think he goes through some character growth during DA2, Act 1 to Act 3 I think he's views are little different about mages though there is still distrust. But I think he's more reasonable and sympathetic in Act 3. But I'm not sure I need to play DA2 again ^^;
I don't think he enjoys killing mages. But no, he didn't particularly care for mages either in DAII. He was more worried about how the situation went bad into the circle of Kirkwall, between the templars and mages, and how it was dangerous for stability and security. He was very ambiguous. That's what makes him interesting to me. He stopped a slaughter, after seeing the blood bath. I don't blame him at all for that, and it's quite normal.
I think Cullen we be more comprehensive about mages and their situation, while remaining cautious, reasonable.
Pretty much this,none is denying that he could do more about improving the situation of the mages in Kirkwall,and I completely agree that "flawless" characters are not interesting at all.In fact one of the reasons I like him as a character is because he's ambiguous like you stated...I'm really interested by his potential character development in DAI and glad that we finally have the opportunity to learn more about him(I hope)!
I don't think he enjoys killing mages. But no, he didn't particularly care for mages either in DAII. He was more worried about how the situation went bad into the circle of Kirkwall, between the templars and mages, and how it was dangerous for stability and security. He was very ambiguous. That's what makes him interesting to me. He stopped a slaughter, after seeing the blood bath. I don't blame him at all for that, and it's quite normal.
I think Cullen we be more comprehensive about mages and their situation, while remaining cautious, reasonable.
I agree. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd say the exact same line about how mages can't be treated like regular people because they're dangerous, even after the Last Straw. He's someone who believes very strongly in the purpose of the Order. In fact, that's the reason he states for overthrowing Meredith. Not "don't kill Hawke" but "this is not what the Order stands for." I think indeed, at the end, he's someone who finally sees it twisted beyond what he can support, even after all his soul seaching about the Order throughout Act 3.
Please don't insult people.
Thanks
This is a joke, right? I can't defend myself but.. someone can indirectly talk about me?
Na, thanks though.
I agree. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd say the exact same line about how mages can't be treated like regular people because they're dangerous, even after the Last Straw. He's someone who believes very strongly in the purpose of the Order. In fact, that's the reason he states for overthrowing Meredith. Not "don't kill Hawke" but "this is not what the Order stands for." I think indeed, at the end, he's someone who finally sees it twisted beyond what he can support, even after all his soul seaching about the Order throughout Act 3.
I'm very excited to see how his soul searching will pan out in Inquisition. Do you think he will still be a Templar? I've often wondered if maybe he's abandoned the order.
I think everyone needs to take a step back and calm their ******. By all means feel free to dislike/hate/love/be intrigued by Cullen/any character but let's cut out the bullsh!t. There's no need for the stereotype accusations, personal insults, troll comments etc. And once again, that goes for both sides.
Feel free to debate/dislike/like a character but don't personally attack or insult each other.
Honestly, guys, can we just stop! It's done. Let's move along.
This is a joke, right? I can't defend myself but.. someone can indirectly talk about me?
Na, thanks though.
Passive aggressive and just annoyed at how you treated me and other people without so much as an acknowledgement to how dismissive you were acting. But I'll admit I'm being a bit of an arse.
Sorry.
Sometimes I let the temper get the best of me when I shouldn't. ><
Just quoting this so you see it in case you missed it.
Do we know yet who is writing Cullen this time around?
Well I think he goes through some character growth during DA2, Act 1 to Act 3 I think he's views are little different about mages though there is still distrust. But I think he's more reasonable and sympathetic in Act 3. But I'm not sure I need to play DA2 again ^^;
i'm not denying that.. i just think his growth has nothing to do with mages, more with gainig-perspective-on-his-own-beliefs-vs-the-idea-how-the-world-really-works. kind of idealist slapped in the face with a reality 
I don't consider Cullen to be pro-mage and I also don't want him to be, it's just that I don't want him to go all sir Alrik on the matter :|
This is a joke, right? I can't defend myself but.. someone can indirectly talk about me?
Na, thanks though.
You have every right to defend yourself and now, sadly, I feel they're just trying to goad you. Try to ignore it, no matter how hard it can be.
Honestly, guys, can we just stop! It's done. Let's move along.
And this! Divine tried to stop a couple pages ago, but I can't say I blame her for continuing to defend herself because some of you refuse to let it go.
Back on Cullen, this means we get to see him shirtless now! By the Gods.... 
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