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*sigh* Is it E3 yet? No? Hmmm maybe I should consider hibernation.



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I don't know what you are talking about! I don't even have a basement! #suspiciouslydefensive

 

;)

 

Exactly! I mean, it's not like I would hide anyone in my attic, right? Right? I mean... why are you looking at me like that? I feed and water him!


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2. He broke away from the Order and has formed/joined a sort of rebel Order loyal to the Divine. To me this seems the most likely case. He was, after all, wearing the templar uniform in the survey leak, but, then again, things change. He was dressed in non-templar clothes in the War Room concept art.

 

This is pretty much my personal theory on what Cullens post DA2/Inquisition situation is. I can imagine that the Order has pretty much gone to the dogs what with Kirkwall, Lambert and the Red Templar deal. This has lead Cullen to split off with a group of Templars that are loyal to the original tenets of the Order, perhaps gathered up some more from other Circles along the way and is leading them against the Red Templars. Some posters have questioned why he would be the military advisor and I think that this could well be the reason why.

 

Just my theory though, always ready to be wrong.



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@ellisgreg You should certainly play @dragonage Inquisition!

We also suggest playing Origins as a Mage  ;)

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Good morning everyone~

 

I was thinking about what may happened to Cullen between DA2 and DAI.

Would you prefer he left the templars/ was taken captive by the templars for helping Hawke or would you prefer he continued with the templars and maybe advance in their ranks? I think i like the idea of Cullen remaining faithful to is beliefs and belonging to a group of moderate templars who desire to protect both the mages and the people of Thedas. What´s your opinion?

 

I wonder if the different endings have something to do with it. Since I'd imagine that Cullen hasn't done anything criminal in templar ending. Hawke sided with templars and Meredith went crazy cause red lyrium. Hawke also remained in city after and that possibility became a viscount so to me it'd seem that Cullen not letting Meredith to kill Hawke wasn't any criminal offense that he should be suspended or prisoned for. Mage ending is different since in that Cullen steps away and lets Hawke to flee from Kirkwall, so Hawke seems like criminal in that one. Could there be two different situations he's in the DAI cause these different endings? Idk but it'd be great. At least I hope it plays some part in DAI and Cullen's story.

 

... So, I just realized something that should have been really obvious, but it only now occurred to me.  :P

 

If Cullen is indeed our military adviser - assuming that you can't swap out the character for a different one - he by definition has to be pretty middle-of-the-road in his views and willing to work with just about anyone. A companion can leave, or be dismissed, or just become so obnoxious you never use them because you have eight others to pick from, but if Cullen is the only option for a military adviser and the branches grant perks as described, losing him would potentially be pretty crippling to the gameplay. The devs would also presumably want to make sure a wide variety of Inquisitors would be able to interact with him without finding him insulting or annoying, since interacting with him would be less optional than interacting with any given companion (again, assuming Cullen can't be replaced with someone else if you don't get along with him.)

 

That's not to say he'll lose his personality, the writers are better than that, but given his role I think he would pretty much have to default toward less extreme opinions.

 

I hope he's not completely middle-of-road. I'd like him to at least call quizzy out for doing something like blood magic and killing templars (moderate one's if there is those anymore). But maybe he'd just get verbally mad but still would think he's best to stay in Inquisition since saving world is more important than going against templars at the moment.

 

What are you seeing in Cullen I am not seeing?  Granted I usually play a mage, in DAO he seemed crazy and paranoid- do not give him any power and in DA2 not much better, but in both he didn't have a very large role.  Frankly, I'm surprised to hear he made the cut in DAI.  So please, tell me what I am missing, because having him close to my party with what I know makes me uncomfortable.

 

I didn't see anyone mentioning this yet so I will do so ^^: He has been tortured weeks, maybe months in the scene you meet him in broken circle in DAO. So of cource he's little paranoid and maybe crazy too at the moment. I'd think being tortured by blood magic, letting it get inside of your brain and torturing you by your memories isn't good for mental health. I think he still manages to be suprisingly reasonable in DAO and I haven't ever hold his kill the all mages in there as something bad. He clearly is afraid of them, but he's also afraid of safety of others. What if you spare blood mages or abominations without realising it? They could easily kill the remaining templars and go rampage on towns and cities in Ferelden killing many people. So I think his viewpoint is reasonable one in that situation although I believe that innocent shouldn't be killed just cause there is possibility they can be blood mages.

 

Also there is option to talk him in the origin of mages. If you do you can see that he has really different thoughts about mages, he actually is really sympathic towards them so his opinion actually changes really radically because of broken circle.

 

In DA2 I think his mental health is much better but he's still paranoid and probaply has trauma (PTSD) from what happened. He one time mentions that he still has nightmares about what happened, even after all those years. However he has some nice character growth in there. In templar ending three mages surrender, Meredith wants them killed and Hawke has option to ask what Cullen thinks. Cullen himself thinks they should be spared even if there is possibility that they are blood mages: he says they should be watched not killed since they can be innocent. Comparing to DAO where he wants all mages killed cause they might be blood mages this is quite nice improvement. Also, Cullen didn't want to annul the circle what can also be seen in templar ending, he questions it couple times but doesn't go against Meredith in it. I think this is his character flaw, he's maybe too eager to follow authoritary but I can't blame him on that since that's what most of people do (there has been different psychological tests IRL and most of people are willing to hurt others, some even kill them if authority gives them order and says it will take all the blame).


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Dragon age.com always crashes my iPad. Which is weird because nothing else ever has lol! It's like my iPads saying
"No, it's to glorious!" Or
"No! You spend to much time on this game as it is!"
Shut up iPad I'll tell you when I've had enough!


Does the exact same thing on my iPad Air and iPhone 5c :(
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Does the exact same thing on my iPad Air and iPhone 5c :(

That's why I don't own any Apple products. *looks at linux computer* I hate love my crappy computer. it's not because i'm poor........okay its because I'm poor


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I don't have a problem with any other sites 'cept Dragonage.com. Figures. Sighhhh. I REALLY want to pre-order the game but I'm trying to patiently wait for the CE to be released, so, it's actually probably a good thing. Otherwise, I'd have bought the DE on impulse.

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Awww, diddums.

@ellisgreg: @bioware @dragonage Ok, what do I require? My kids have @NintendoAmerica Wi U's & an @Xbox 360. Does the game play on either system?
Help!
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I was thinking about what may happened to Cullen between DA2 and DAI.

Would you prefer he left the templars/ was taken captive by the templars for helping Hawke or would you prefer he continued with the templars and maybe advance in their ranks? I think i like the idea of Cullen remaining faithful to is beliefs and belonging to a group of moderate templars who desire to protect both the mages and the people of Thedas. What´s your opinion?

I definitely don't want him imprisoned, tortured, whatever, he's been through that already, and I don't want anything to damage with fragile mental health. Divine seems to be a pretty open-minded person, and I suspect that after getting Cullen's report, she would send someone to investigate first, before accusing Cullen of anything.

Cullen will totally be in trouble if Hawke didn't kill Anders though. Because then it means Cullen not only let an apostate go (that apostate was kind of everybody's beloved Champion, and even Meredith was ok with it for a while), but also a dangerous criminal, who attacked the Chantry. In his defence Cullen can say that the templars were too confused after Meredith turned into a red lyrium monster, and they just didn't know what to do, and Hawke escaped while the Circle was in disarray.

The Red Fist thing though, if it means him, then it kind of looks like Cullen founded his own mercenary group. Or maybe it's a secret Divine's military group, all special and elite, and stuff :) I kind of like that idea. It would explain why Cullen hangs out with Leliana and Cassandra.


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Somebody should just link GE to the relevant Cullen-related videos from DAO. Save the man 40 hours.
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Bollocks - found out today that I probably (I could always die beforehand, I suppose) have to move to Singapore sometime next year.  Anyone from Singapore?  What's it like?  I'm so depressed right now, I hate packing and I probably have to go on a 'moving to Asian country' diet!

 

Cullen is great and pretty etc, etc........too depressed even for Cullen thoughts to cheer me up.  :(


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I definitely don't want him imprisoned, tortured, whatever, he's been through that already, and I don't want anything to damage with fragile mental health. Divine seems to be a pretty open-minded person, and I suspect that after getting Cullen's report, she would send someone to investigate first, before accusing Cullen of anything.

Cullen will totally be in trouble if Hawke didn't kill Anders though. Because then it means Cullen not only let an apostate go (that apostate was kind of everybody's beloved Champion, and even Meredith was ok with it for a while), but also a dangerous criminal, who attacked the Chantry. In his defence Cullen can say that the templars were too confused after Meredith turned into a red lyrium monster, and they just didn't know what to do, and Hawke escaped while the Circle was in disarray.

The Red Fist thing though, if it means him, then it kind of looks like Cullen founded his own mercenary group. Or maybe it's a secret Divine's military group, all special and elite, and stuff :) I kind of like that idea. It would explain why Cullen hangs out with Leliana and Cassandra.

 

That point about Anders is pretty fair. Since it was Anders who started the whole thing. In my first playthrough Anders lives, in second he dies. I wonder if that will have something to do with Cullens situation too. However I sided with mages in first and with templars in second so maybe that's still the major point since in templar ending Hawke doesn't seem to have done anything criminal unlike in mage ending.



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Awww, diddums.

@ellisgreg: @bioware @dragonage Ok, what do I require? My kids have @NintendoAmerica Wi U's & an @Xbox 360. Does the game play on either system?
Help!

 

 

I really really hope he tweets of pic of himself playing Dragon Age.  :D


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Awww, diddums.

@ellisgreg: @bioware @dragonage Ok, what do I require? My kids have @NintendoAmerica Wi U's & an @Xbox 360. Does the game play on either system?
Help!

 

He's so adorable :>


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I saw him stand against Meredith, that was cool.  I didn't talk to him much outside of the quest with the corrupted Templars.  I'm not trying to start a fight.  I'm seriously interested.  He didn't seem to play much of a role and wanted to kill all the circle mages in DAO, and then ALL mages.  There are over 700 pages in this thread, so he's popular; I want to know why.  Is it his appearance?

If you want to know why Cullen has so many fans, you may find this post helpful. It explains everything very well :)

Also, his VA is the best :)

 

Does anybody have a link to a video of Cullen arguing that the surrendered mages should be spared and talking about the duties of a templar? (It's in the templar ending.) I think it's his shining moment, but I can't find a clip of it for some reason!

Here you go.


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Bollocks - found out today that I probably (I could always die beforehand, I suppose) have to move to Singapore sometime next year.  Anyone from Singapore?  What's it like?  I'm so depressed right now, I hate packing and I probably have to go on a 'moving to Asian country' diet!

 

Cullen is great and pretty etc, etc........too depressed even for Cullen thoughts to cheer me up.   :(

If you don't mind me asking, why do you have to move?



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If you don't mind me asking, why do you have to move?

 

No, I don't mind answering.  :)

 

Hubby's work.  Looks like it's my hatred of packing vs my love for the Husband.......and he still wins out even if only by a hair!

 

Cullen never causes me this grief.  :)


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I'm curious as to what GE will think about everything once he's played the game! lol. 



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No, I don't mind answering.   :)

 

Hubby's work.  Looks like it's my hatred of packing vs my love for the Husband.......and he still wins out even if only by a hair!

 

Cullen never causes me this grief.   :)

Aww, good luck with the move!

We are moving too this autumn, although it's just to a city nearby, but I'm kind of nervous about getting used to a new place. And packing. And moving. And I hope we'll move it before DAI's release.

Good thing about internet, is that at least we won't lose our online friends when we move elsewhere. :)


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No, I don't mind answering. :)

Hubby's work. Looks like it's my hatred of packing vs my love for the Husband.......and he still wins out even if only by a hair!

Cullen never causes me this grief. :)

Packing and moving do suck :( but it could be really awesome in Singapore! Not that many people get to say "Yeah I lived in Singapore" plus you can go to the famous botanic gardens, get super cheap plastic surgery(sort of a joke but if you want to get something done why not!) and cheap electronics I don't know anything else about the place so here is a list! :D http://www.thesmartl...do-in-singapore
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I definitely don't want him imprisoned, tortured, whatever, he's been through that already, and I don't want anything to damage with fragile mental health. Divine seems to be a pretty open-minded person, and I suspect that after getting Cullen's report, she would send someone to investigate first, before accusing Cullen of anything.

Cullen will totally be in trouble if Hawke didn't kill Anders though. Because then it means Cullen not only let an apostate go (that apostate was kind of everybody's beloved Champion, and even Meredith was ok with it for a while), but also a dangerous criminal, who attacked the Chantry. In his defence Cullen can say that the templars were too confused after Meredith turned into a red lyrium monster, and they just didn't know what to do, and Hawke escaped while the Circle was in disarray.

The Red Fist thing though, if it means him, then it kind of looks like Cullen founded his own mercenary group. Or maybe it's a secret Divine's military group, all special and elite, and stuff :) I kind of like that idea. It would explain why Cullen hangs out with Leliana and Cassandra.

I really don't see a bright future for Cullen, if he lets Anders go. His only excuse would be that he didn't know, that Anders was responsible for the Chantry's blow. But would the authorities listen?

 

Edit: nah, the possibility of him not knowing is too small. Meredith has had enough time to tell him. In that case Cullen should be stripped from his duties, if not executed, by both civil and Chantry laws.


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Somebody should just link GE to the relevant Cullen-related videos from DAO. Save the man 40 hours.


This.

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*ninja'd*

 

 

I wonder if he'd side with mages or templars XD