Just taking a stab in the dark. I wouldn't be surprised if forming one may have been in the talks, considering the internal dissent within the chantry itself.
I assume Red Templars already existed at that point as well. If not, then dang, they "reproduced" fast.
From what I understand the Inquisition is brought back because of the tear in the veil.
Just taking a stab in the dark. I wouldn't be surprised if forming one may have been in the talks, considering the internal dissent within the chantry itself.
I assume Red Templars already existed at that point as well. If not, then dang, they "reproduced" fast.
There is also the chance that they took over villages and forced the people to eat red lyrium to increase their numbers. Kind of like that poor village being taken over in the leaked magazine article from the other day. It's a scary thought.
Man lots of chauvinist undertones in TME, especially with Gaspard; Orlais court life, at least, pretty much resembles 18th century France as far as my limited knowledge can make out. Kind of disappointing
Yup! So much for our equal Thedosian society...
Yes it is after the Accord has been broken. Nevertheless, she seems to be going to Varric to find Hawke, not because he's the one true teller of true tales.
I assume Red Templars already existed at that point as well. If not, then dang, they "reproduced" fast.
Yup! So much for our equal Thedosian society...
Just taking a stab in the dark. I wouldn't be surprised if forming one may have been in the talks, considering the internal dissent within the chantry itself.
That ausgamer article quotes Cam as saying that it was Justinia's plan B, but not for what. I could imagine Justinia seeing all the crazy ass stuff going on, mage-templar war, red lyrium, rise of red templars, breaking of Nevarran Accord, the fact that everyone is fighting everyone (the trends that the devs have talked about since last summer), and maybe she's the only one to see how something's not quite right. Maybe that's where she comes up with this 'outside the normal law' idea of bringing back the Inquisition, because they need an outside party to see the patterns in the chaos stirring the land. (yes, my Justinia fangirlism is shining through... 
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Man lots of chauvinist undertones in TME, especially with Gaspard; Orlais court life, at least, pretty much resembles 18th century France as far as my limited knowledge can make out. Kind of disappointing
Here's a completely OT request: can anyone recommend a GOOD fantasy novel where men and women are equal in the made up society? Bonus points if queer characters exist too and are not ugly stereotypes. I need some summer reading material, and TME is making me miss my fantasy reading days
Try The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson.
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That ausgamer article quotes Cam as saying that it was Justinia's plan B, but not for what. I could imagine Justinia seeing all the crazy ass stuff going on, mage-templar war, red lyrium, rise of red templars, breaking of Nevarran Accord, the fact that everyone is fighting everyone (the trends that the devs have talked about since last summer), and maybe she's the only one to see how something's not quite right. Maybe that's where she comes up with this outside the normal law idea of bringing back the Inquisition, because they need an outside party to see the patterns in the chaos stirring the land. (yes, my Justinia fangirlism is shining through...
Agreed. And the Inquisition might have been adapted by Cass and Leliana to deal with those issues on top of the Veil tear itself.
Now that I think about it, I'm dying to know WHERE red Templars stemmed from/began. Was Meredith the first? Why did they resort to red lyrium, and how did they find out about it?
My first thought is "Grey Wardens", since we do know they have an interest and mounted and expedition to the thaig Hawke went to. Plus we kinda already know they're into some weird **** in DAI. There was also a behemoth in the latest trailer at the warden fortress, so it could be possible the first behemoths were grey wardens, not templars. Or it was a templar. /shrug.
From there, I don't exactly know how/why templars could have gotten their hands on the stuff. The First Warden seems like an iffy sort of guy, but I don't know if he'd be making deals with the templars. 
I could see the wardens bringing some back for study and it ending up growing like wildfire on the surface. They could easily huff the stuff, but that seems a little meh.
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Try The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson.
So the real question is why didn't she know the real story if they could've asked Cullen? Or Aveline who is also a public official ?
Cullen doesn't know the full story! He doesn't know how Hawke ended up in Kirkwall, how Hawke met his/her friends, what happended during the expedition to the Deep Roads (he may not evern know about that expidition!). He doesn't know Hawke's motives, and doesn't really know Hawke well (unless you headcanon otherwise). And he doesn't know where Hawke went after they left Kirkwall. Cullen doesn't know where Meredith's sword came from, Cullen doesn't know whether Hawke was a part of Anders' plan or not. Cullen doesn't even know much about Anders and his plan, because he wasn't there when Anders blew up the Chantry. What Cassandra knows may have come from Cullen's reports.
Where did Aveline go - that's an interesting question. Maybe for political reasons it became dangerous for her to stay in Kirkwall, and she left too. I think it's safe to say that Aveline wasn't there when Cassandra arrived, or Cassandra would have talked to her too.
Forming an internal theory that the Order was was testing out the red lyrium top secretly for a while, trying to tweak it to give them more power but it went haywire and also made them mad. Like a Norman Osborne thing.
My first thought is "Grey Wardens", since we do know they have an interest and mounted and expedition to the thaig Hawke went to. Plus we kinda already know they're into some weird **** in DAI. There was also a behemoth in the latest trailer at the warden fortress, so it could be possible the first behemoths were grey wardens, not templars. Or it was a templar.
I've wondered if it's possible that Meredith started slipping Red Lyrium to select Templars, fancying it a greater source of righteous power to rid thedas of its "illness" of magic. Perhaps even brokering a deal with the Wardens, since we know Nate ((Now that I think about it, I'm dying to know WHERE red Templars stemmed from/began. Was Meredith the first? Why did they resort to red lyrium, and how did they find out about it?
)) was looking for the primeval thaig and Stroud/Warden!Alistair were passing through Kirkwall for super-secret-warden-things, to bypass the need for lyrium oversight. Just a theory.
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Oooh yeah. The super secret Warden quest. I wonder if we'll ever find out what that was/will it have an impact on us in DAI.
I know it has been a decade since DAO, but man, if the wardens really are involved in all this crazy crap, I wonder how Alistair is going to deal with it? He had such a rose colored view of them in Origins.
Poor Alistair. Poor Cullen.
I've wondered if it's possible that Meredith started slipping Red Lyrium to select Templars, fancying it a greater source of righteous power to rid thedas of its "illness" of magic. Perhaps even brokering a deal with the Wardens, since we know Nate ((
Also poor us wardens, well I think I'll have some serious feels when/if we have to fight them.
Makes me wonder if no one bothered to take Cullen's warnings seriously about the red lyrium idol/red lyrium in general, so he ditched the Templars when they rebelled and went rogue with his own little faction in order to try and take matters into their own hands? If that leak is true and there really is a militant faction working with us called the Red Fists then it's entirely possible that perhaps he (or the Divine, if he's working for her) decided to name the faction "Red Fists" as a representation of cracking down on the Red templars/red lyrium/whatever with an iron fist?
I really like this theory,I think if somebody would oppose the red templars so openly apart from the inquisition,that somebody in my opinion would be Cullen and perhaps several other loyal templars,who happened to be present during the Kirkwall incident and witness insane-petrified Meredith.
Maybe the red fists, were formed with the purpose of eliminating the red templars(either by the divine or by Cullen)as you suggested,where I suppose they could gradually became a more diverse military group that not only consists of loyal templars but also of people who either survived an attack by the red templars or simply want to prevent their homes from being burnt or for whatever reason,thus decided to take up arms and join up.Also gives a very good explanation about why they would join up with the inquisition,considering that we're actively fighting the red templars as well.
So a large part of our army(if not whole) consists of the red fists,possibly led by Cullen...Hmm,it would seem that we'll be far more dependant on our advisers than I thought.
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