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Ava Grey

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Man lots of chauvinist undertones in TME, especially with Gaspard; Orlais court life, at least, pretty much resembles 18th century France as far as my limited knowledge can make out. Kind of disappointing :(

Here's a completely OT request: can anyone recommend a GOOD fantasy novel where men and women are equal in the made up society? Bonus points if queer characters exist too and are not ugly stereotypes. I need some summer reading material, and TME is making me miss my fantasy reading days :)

I'm not sure that they exactly meet your requirements, but the nearest books I can think of that I have would be Ian Irvines 'A View from the Mirror' series. I think these may come close to what you want, as the male and female lead characters have quite a bit of gender role reversal going on and while men and women aren't presented as technically being equal, all the female characters are presented as being far more powerfull and potent than most of the male characters IMO. Even iff this isn't exactly what you're after, i'd still highly recommend it, as a fantasy series it's in my top five


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Watch this happen and we all flood into the forums to cry on digital shoulders because no one else understands :P

 

And do so without spoiling anyone! Uhhggggggghhh.


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Red dragon made of lyrium! 
That would be a tough battle. Especially if it could stop your mages from using their abilities. That's something I'd like to see in general. If we fight templars I want my mages to be useless or partially useless, in DA2 there was no real issue with that. Make me fear them! D:

OMG, the worst fight in my life was when in DAO I went into the Broken Circle with Wynne, Morrigan, Amell and Leliana. And we opened a random door, and there was a party of bewitched templars, who totally knocked everybody out with holy smites! I think they murdered both Wynne and Morrigan by the time my Amell came around to use blood magic to stop them. And there was also a boss desire demon. That's how I learnt about the importance of blood magic balancing your party :)


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#19029
GiggleLam

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And do so without spoiling anyone! Uhhggggggghhh.

It will be the toughest challenge! D: We'll need a support group.



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CuriousArtemis

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I figured that was done purposely to make us dislike the character more.

 

Definitely; he's pretty awful. 

 

Still, that stereotype has to come from somewhere!



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ChachiBobinks

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It will be the toughest challenge! D: We'll need a support group.

 

Ain't that the truth. D:



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Bollocks - found out today that I probably (I could always die beforehand, I suppose) have to move to Singapore sometime next year.  Anyone from Singapore?  What's it like?  I'm so depressed right now, I hate packing and I probably have to go on a 'moving to Asian country' diet!

 

Cullen is great and pretty etc, etc........too depressed even for Cullen thoughts to cheer me up.   :(

 

Best of luck with your move! I'm sure it'll be challenging, but it's also a pretty amazing opportunity, and I hope it will be a positive experience for your family.  :)

 



If Meredith lied, then yes - it's possible he didn't know at the moment, when Hawke was leaving. But with Anders shouting in the middle of Lowtown, no way he wouldn't know it shortly afterwards. Must have been tough for his moral and duty principles, knowing that he let person, responsible for blowing the Chantry, go unscathed.

 

Would the powers that be necessarily know Cullen should be able to recognize Anders on sight? They'd had prior dealings, but it wouldn't likely be anything important enough that there was an official record indicating they had met. It seems like Cullen could handwave this by just saying it was "some mages" he let go by necessity; it would be reasonable for anyone receiving his report to assume he didn't know that one was Anders.

 

I'm sure it was a tough choice for Cullen on a personal level, though. He didn't have to make it in my canon playthrough because Hawke killed Anders (with great sadness and regret.)

 



Did Meredith know there was a difference between the idol and regular lyrium though? I mean on a rational level. She obviously had the idol melted down and somehow fused with her sword (I'm assuming she didn't take it into her body in any way.) The idol made Bartrand mad with jealousy, and he wanted it back from Meredith. Would she have freely and willingly distributed it amongst the Templars?

 

I don't think Meredith would do so willingly, but I also think the red lyrium itself may have been a factor. If it has some degree of sentience - even if it just propagates itself instinctively like a virus - it may have been instructing her to spread it. It would make sense that Meredith would receive that instruction and Bartrand wouldn't, because Bartrand is sort of dead end for a spread of lyrium, whereas Meredith is in a perfect position to "infect" the other templars.


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#19033
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OMG, the worst fight in my life was when in DAO I went into the Broken Circle with Wynne, Morrigan, Amell and Leliana. And we opened a random door, and there was a party of bewitched templars, who totally knocked everybody out with holy smites! I think they murdered both Wynne and Morrigan by the time my Amell came around to use blood magic to stop them. And there was also a boss desire demon. That's how I learnt about the importance of blood magic balancing your party :)

I've not done the blood magic thing in Origins. I should try it out if I ever get over the part where Alistair ninjamanced my mage o__o



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Watch this happen and we all flood into the forums to cry on digital shoulders because no one else understands :P

The sad reality is that the Keep doesn't import the warden/Hawke's appearance, so they cant have a cameo *cries*

 

But *fingers crossed* they explain where the hell they are and how they got there. And they BETTER mention that my warden and Alistair were in love, or I will riot in the streets :3



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OMG, the worst fight in my life was when in DAO I went into the Broken Circle with Wynne, Morrigan, Amell and Leliana. And we opened a random door, and there was a party of bewitched templars, who totally knocked everybody out with holy smites! I think they murdered both Wynne and Morrigan by the time my Amell came around to use blood magic to stop them. And there was also a boss desire demon. That's how I learnt about the importance of blood magic balancing your party :)

 

My dislike for mages helped me in most instances since I usually only have Wynne and never play a mage :lol:

 

The most "OMG What just happened?!" fight for me in DA:O was this little hidden hut in the back alleys of Denerim. Some monstrous dude that totally wiped out my super high level party with like two strokes of his massive sword!



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My dislike for mages helped me in most instances since I usually only have Wynne and never play a mage :lol:

 

The most "OMG What just happened?!" fight for me in DA:O was this little hidden hut in the back alleys of Denerim. Some monstrous dude that totally wiped out my super high level party with like two strokes of his massive sword!

Gaxkang the Unbound?



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And do so without spoiling anyone! Uhhggggggghhh.

*sigh* Unfortunately the net is indeed dark and full of spoilers,especially for us Europeans who will get our hands on the the game three days after it's released in America.It'll be even harder to resist them! :P



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The sad reality is that the Keep doesn't import the warden/Hawke's appearance, so they cant have a cameo *cries*

 

But *fingers crossed* they explain where the hell they are and how they got there. And they BETTER mention that my warden and Alistair were in love, or I will riot in the streets :3

Well, do we know that for sure? It might be a lovely surprise that you can alter the appearance of the warden and hawke. That said my first Hawke is default Hawke, and my Warden is not that far off default. :P



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*sigh* Unfortunately the net is indeed dark and full of spoilers,especially for us Europeans who will get our hands on the the game three days after it's released in America.It'll be even harder to resist them! :P

I don't think you'll hear or see from us for 3 days. At least not me. If I'm at my computer I'm going to be in DA:I :P 



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I don't think Meredith would do so willingly, but I also think the red lyrium itself may have been a factor. If it has some degree of sentience - even if it just propagates itself instinctively like a virus - it may have been instructing her to spread it. It would make sense that Meredith would receive that instruction and Bartrand wouldn't, because Bartrand is sort of dead end for a spread of lyrium, whereas Meredith is in a perfect position to "infect" the other templars.

 

Woooow  :o I love the idea of sentient virus-like red lyrium! I honestly hadn't thought of that before. It would propel the idea from mundane to something more unique. 



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*wonders idly if she's the only one with an executed Alistair*
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Can someone explain in which context Gaspard stated that phrase, and to who? I know the events of TME, but i still haven't read it.
Even in Thedas men and women are supposed to be equal, there'll still be people that think that women aren't suited for a leading position. Plus, Orlais isn't exactly the place where should look for equality. The chevaliers are still, as far as I know, largely males.
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#19043
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Gaxkang the Unbound?

 

I'm not sure; the wiki says "Quaint Hovel" but it was in Denerim! I don't think I ever killed him without modding my saves!



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Hellion Rex

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*wonders idly if she's the only one with an executed Alistair*

:angry:


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Well, do we know that for sure? It might be a lovely surprise that you can alter the appearance of the warden and hawke. That said my first Hawke is default Hawke, and my Warden is not that far off default. :P

I'm pretty sure someone said somewhere that the Keep won't actually import saves, you just recreate your saves via certain flag markers (did you murder knife anders/ let anders live, etc.) So unless they have two character customization processes before the actual game just to make your warden/hawke, I highly doubt they'll have cameos



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*wonders idly if she's the only one with an executed Alistair*

GET OUT. NOW.


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#19047
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*wonders idly if she's the only one with an executed Alistair*

Not as my canon, but I made one playthrough.
Hardened Alistair plus Anora is the best Landsmeet outcome (Ferelden), in my opinion.
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#19048
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I'm not sure; the wiki says "Quaint Hovel" but it was in Denerim! I don't think I ever killed him without modding my saves!

Yep, it was Gaxkang then.


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I'm not sure; the wiki says "Quaint Hovel" but it was in Denerim! I don't think I ever killed him without modding my saves!

Yup, that's him. And...oh boy...the irony of you mentioning that fight, given what's currently happening.

 

 

I wanna say it so bad, but I won't.


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#19050
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I don't think you'll hear or see from us for 3 days. At least not me. If I'm at my computer I'm going to be in DA:I :P

 

Same :lol: Although I'll be hanging out in the non-spoiler group.