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[Lorien19]

That's right, they do!  I admit to getting distracted and playing with that feature in Skyrim, just trying things on and matching accessories.  Don't tell anyone....  

I always do that... 

[Dirgegun]

Even regular earrings don't show up in cut scenes!

 

I have to say, I remember I was playing Skyrim and I had my bosmer standing on a cliff or something, and I was rotating the camera all around him, just admiring my adorable elf dude. When suddenly I paused and thought, what the hell is that mess all over his chest?! That's when I realized that necklaces actually appear on the model when you wear them

 

A part of me was sad I couldn't put one jewelled ring on each of my elf's fingers. He was already a pimp with all his stolen hard earned cash, so he deserved to look like one too!

[MacyNell]

I always do that... 

 

Well, at least I'm in good company. 

[R2s Muse]

If everything was equal rights and gender open in Thedas then the controversy and stories that are interwoven into the lore would be a whole lot duller. Personally, I like that their are bigots, racists, sexists, etc in the DA games because it gives the characters and my protagonist something to fight for, to prove a point that women can rule, that elves should be respected, etc.

I agree it allows for drama. I think the issue is more that the game has claimed more equality than it in facts bears out.
 
 

A part of me was sad I couldn't put one jewelled ring on each of my elf's fingers. He was already a pimp with all his stolen hard earned cash, so he deserved to look like one too!

A little bit random... but in reading TME I keep running across potential references from those original promo pics on the DA official site (no, these shouldn't be TME spoilers!). First, there's a character with a special magicky ring that spouts red fire. Then, I just met a mage who wears rings on all her fingers... which I love because it reminds me of another book series I like, but also reminds me of the ring wearing dude they originally posted. Do you think Thedosians wear that many rings??

[Sifr]

It's potent! 

 

Well, Zevran never said it was an ear-ring...

[Hellion Rex]

I agree it allows for drama. I think the issue is more that the game has claimed more equality than it in facts bears out.
 
 

A little bit random... but in reading TME I keep running across potential references from those original promo pics on the DA official site (no, these shouldn't be TME spoilers!). First, there's a character with a special magicky ring that spouts red fire. Then, I just met a mage who wears rings on all her fingers... which I love because it reminds me of another book series I like, but also reminds me of the ring wearing dude they originally posted. Do you think Thedosians wear that many rings??

Ok, yeah, I know what you are referring to with the rings but I think they are simply coincidence.

 

 

As for the game series itself, what "equality" do you think it is claiming that is not being met?

[Dirgegun]

I agree it allows for drama. I think the issue is more that the game has claimed more equality than it in facts bears out.
 
 

A little bit random... but in reading TME I keep running across potential references from those original promo pics on the DA official site (no, these shouldn't be TME spoilers!). First, there's a character with a special magicky ring that spouts red fire. Then, I just met a mage who wears rings on all her fingers... which I love because it reminds me of another book series I like, but also reminds me of the ring wearing dude they originally posted. Do you think Thedosians wear that many rings??

 

Thedosians have pimp hats and pimp cane mages staffs. They better wear pimp rings too!

 

On a serious note: that's rather interesting! I really need to hurry my arse up and get this book. 

[Hellion Rex]

Well, Zevran never said it was an ear-ring...

I wouldn't be surprised if he's pierced down there.

[Hellion Rex]

On a serious note: that's rather interesting! I really need to hurry my arse up and get this book. 

YES. READ IT. IT'S A PERFECT TIE IN TO DAI. Also, SO MUCH STUFF makes more sense.

[Dirgegun]

Well, Zevran never said it was an ear-ring...

 

*wheezes*

 

This is made even better by the fact it was my male city elf who romanced him. 

 

Edit: though I think he does say it's an earring he took from his first mark or something like that, doesn't he?

[R2s Muse]

As for the game series itself, what "equality" do you think it is claiming that is not being met?

 
"Men and women in Ferelden are generally regarded as equals. Both genders are evenly represented in most organizations, noble houses and military forces."
 

 
For example, despite that assertion during character creation, Alistair points out that it's  unusual for the female Warden to be female (The Mary Sue has an interesting article on the "Hey Sweetheart" scenario that discusses this scene) and in The Stolen Throne there's almost a paragraph when Rowan is introduced about how odd she is for being a woman but also a knight.
 

[Hellion Rex]

Ok, touche. I think it's just a dumb writing issue, cause we have seen numerous, powerful female Wardens (Sophia Dryden, Genevieve, Bregan, Utha, Janeka). In that sense, I see it as more of the writing in game being inconsistent with what we actually see in the game.

[Dirgegun]

 

As for the game series itself, what "equality" do you think it is claiming that is not being met?

 
"Men and women in Ferelden are generally regarded as equals. Both genders are evenly represented in most organizations, noble houses and military forces."
 

 
For example, despite that assertion during character creation, Alistair points out that it's  unusual for the female Warden to be female (The Mary Sue has an interesting article on the "Hey Sweetheart" scenario that discusses this scene) and in The Stolen Throne there's almost a paragraph when Rowan is introduced about how odd she is for being a woman but also a knight.
 

 

 

While I don't doubt this is true AT ALL., I always got the impression that there weren't that many wardens in Ferelden in the first place, and Alistair's claims are... from a rather narrow sample size? He was only a Warden for six months before the blight, I believe? And he'd never been to any of their major strongholds. 

[Hellion Rex]

While I don't doubt this is true AT ALL., I always got the impression that there weren't that many wardens in Ferelden in the first place, and Alistair's claims are... from a rather narrow sample size? He was only a Warden for six months before the blight, I believe? And he'd never been to any of their major strongholds. 

That's another fair point. Ferelden's chapter of the Order could have been smaller compared to Orlais and the Anderfels.

[GiggleLam]

My copies of The Masked Empire and Asunder just arrived. 

[Sifr]

I thought the reason for a lack of Female Wardens is in part due to the Taint making it harder to conceive children, which unless you actively didn't want to have kids at all, would be one reason why many would be reluctant to join their ranks.

 

Also, it's never been confirmed whether or not Female Grey Wardens are immune to the process that transforms a regular ghoul into a Broodmother, since we know that Grey Wardens don't necessarily die upon reaching their Calling, only turn into ghouls. The lack of female Wardens might be a reluctance to want to risk this fate for them.

[Hellion Rex]

My copies of The Masked Empire and Asunder just arrived. 

Asunder first, THEN Masked Empire.

[GiggleLam]

Awesome thanks! I was jut going to ask which order to read them in  

[Dirgegun]

I thought the reason for a lack of Female Wardens is in part due to the Taint making it harder to conceive children, which unless you actively didn't want to have kids at all, would be one reason why many would be reluctant to join their ranks.

 

Also, it's never been confirmed whether or not Female Grey Wardens are immune to the process that transforms a regular ghoul into a Broodmother, since we know that Grey Wardens don't necessarily die upon reaching their Calling, only turn into ghouls. The lack of female Wardens might be a reluctance to want to risk this fate for them.

 

No one knows of the taint, though. The Joining is secret... and once you've found out about it, you either drink that damn blood, son, or get the knife.

[Hellion Rex]

I thought the reason for a lack of Female Wardens is in part due to the Taint making it harder to conceive children, which unless you actively didn't want to have kids at all, would be one reason why many would be reluctant to join their ranks.

 

Also, it's never been confirmed whether or not Female Grey Wardens are immune to the process that transforms a regular ghoul into a Broodmother, since we know that Grey Wardens don't necessarily die upon reaching their Calling, only turn into ghouls. The lack of female Wardens might be a reluctance to want to risk this fate for them.

Well, I don't believe that female Wardens are immune to the broodmother process. I think they are just as susceptible as any other female.

[Hellion Rex]

Awesome thanks! I was jut going to ask which order to read them in

I'm psychic like that.

[R2s Muse]

While I don't doubt this is true AT ALL., I always got the impression that there weren't that many wardens in Ferelden in the first place, and Alistair's claims are... from a rather narrow sample size? He was only a Warden for six months before the blight, I believe? And he'd never been to any of their major strongholds. 

 

 

Ok, touche. I think it's just a dumb writing issue, cause we have seen numerous, powerful female Wardens (Sophia Dryden, Genevieve, Bregan, Utha, Janeka). In that sense, I see it as more of the writing in game being inconsistent with what we actually see in the game.

 

Well, it's not just an in-game thing, as we're seeing it in the books as well. But as we've talked about many times, it's hard to disentangle one's own cultural paradigm from the one you're writing sometimes and so inconsistencies happen. I just find them rather jarring when I run across them, particularly for the "hey sweetheart" points made in the Mary Sue article, which I recommend reading.

[Sifr]

No one knows of the taint, though. The Joining is secret... and once you've found out about it, you either drink that damn blood, son, or get the knife.

 

Aye, but it might be common knowledge that Grey Wardens don't tend to have a lot of kids, since Carver mentions this fact himself if he becomes one, joking that's why he's started sleeping around a lot. He never mentions the Taint however, so simply telling people that becoming a Grey Warden makes having children more difficult, doesn't seem to be against the rules.

[Dirgegun]

Well, it's not just an in-game thing, as we're seeing in the books as well. But as we've talked about many times, it's hard to disentangle one's own cultural paradigm from the one you're writing sometimes and so inconsistencies happen. I just find them particularly jarring when I run across them, particularly for the "hey sweetheart" points made in the Mary Sue article, which I recommend reading.

 

Oh, I can definitely see where you're coming from! And that is true. I was just tossing out a thought where it comes to the Alistair bit.  

[R2s Muse]

I thought the reason for a lack of Female Wardens is in part due to the Taint making it harder to conceive children, which unless you actively didn't want to have kids at all, would be one reason why many would be reluctant to join their ranks.

 

Also, it's never been confirmed whether or not Female Grey Wardens are immune to the process that transforms a regular ghoul into a Broodmother, since we know that Grey Wardens don't necessarily die upon reaching their Calling, only turn into ghouls. The lack of female Wardens might be a reluctance to want to risk this fate for them.

 

 

Well, I don't believe that female Wardens are immune to the broodmother process. I think they are just as susceptible as any other female.

When someone asked DG whether or not female Wardens should avoid going into the Deep Roads for their Calling, because of the potential broodmother thing, he admitted he hadn't thought about that... the whole exchange suggesting that, yes, it is a danger for them, but that it would be unfair to deny them the honor.