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I have a theory that rift mage focuses more on spatial manipulation, i.e. the manipulation of rifts, and the talents of that class focus on localized teleportation and other such feats.

 

As for Knight Enchanter, I almost imagine it to be similar to the Dragon Armor Shout in Skyrim, as well as maybe creating swords and lances of arcane energy like the Bound Sword spell in Skyrim and the Blades spell in Fable.

On top of that, maybe playing a "rift mage" allows us to utilize our mark as a focus for magic, allowing us the ability of spatial manipulation.



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I don't think we could be in there too long, but I never considered us being in the Fade for longer than a few minutes. [TAPS CHIN] A month seems too long, but a week or two could make sense. If it's too long, then how would Cassandra connect us to the initial blast instead of just assuming we were a demon (as her monologue in the trailer suggests)? That's what makes me think we step out pretty soon after the initial explosion.

 

Man, I just wanna know more about everything. Was it a singular blast that killed thousands of people? Did that mean the blast was huge, or that people were all crowded together? Could there be multiple blasts? 

 

Maybe it's just for a day? I'm pretty much expecting there to be some sort of Fade sequence once we get sucked in, so that we can test out our new combat skills, like a tutorial of sorts. If there is then that would take up some time, Amell/Surana was in the Fade for hours when he/she took the Harrowing, so my theory is that it would be something like that in terms of length of time stuck in there.



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Fair point, but still, what could have made them choose Cullen?

I can think of many theories... but all very context dependent. Only Knight-Commander to ultimately rebel against Lambert after breaking the Accord? Became a wandering ronin fighting for the downtrod and gets recruited by the Divine for his "robin hood"ness? Cullen runs to the Divine after the Templars break away and pledges himself directly to her, Justinia promotes him for his experience with both extremes of the mage-templar conflict? Cullen is Justinia's second cousin once removed on his father's side, and she's using nepotism? :D
 

"General Cullen"... that sounds like the title of a folder full of Cullen related pictures. "Naked Cullen", "Angry Cullen", "Cullen in love", "General Cullen" (that's where all the miscellaneous Cullen pics go!)  :lol: 

LOL Mine is called Random Cullen. http://s1284.photobu...n?sort=3&page=1
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#20354
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I agree. Even if the 3 factions are formed by the divine it will be much more interesting if the inquisitor has to find and recruit them. This way it seems like the inquisitor thus have some power over the formation of the inquisition.

 

Plus we're still a nobody to begin with, a lot of people are gonna think we're loopy if/when we tell them that we're the chosen one, so I fully expect it to be difficult for our protagonist at first when trying to recruit anyone. Maybe we'll have to do a quest or two for the 3 advisors/factions in order for them to trust us enough to join?


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Man, I just wanna know more about everything. Was it a singular blast that killed thousands of people? Did that mean the blast was huge, or that people were all crowded together? Could there be multiple blasts? 

I do think it was a singular blast. All that lyrium in the mountain could create an explosion of titanic proportions.


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Cameron called Leliana the leader of the Inquisition's division of spies and assassin, and I think he called the military advisor 'general', so it seems to me that they dropped the names.
Edit: nope, he stated that character lead the Inqusition's military force. Still it seems Cullen will be a form of general. It woudn't make sense to me if our army got called with a particular name like red fists.
Double edit: he didn't even call the Leliana team a division. I wonder where I've read it :huh:.

I meant to say here... the word "general" has been used in the game. So we do have one. 
 
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Cameron called Leliana the leader of the Inquisition's division of spies and assassin, and I think he called the military advisor 'general', so it seems to me that they dropped the names.
Edit: nope, he stated that character lead the Inqusition's military force. Still it seems Cullen will be a form of general. It woudn't make sense to me if our army got called with a particular name like red fists.

Unless there's a meaning behind that name,Lola had a nice theory  about the name,perhaps the faction known as "the red fists" might have been initially formed as an anti-red templar faction,something along the lines to fight the red templars with an iron fist(I don't remember it exactly) hence the name.

 

 

Fair point, but still, what could have made them choose Cullen?

 

Maybe Cullen as witness of the Kirkwall incident was chosen by the divine for that task(to form an army dedicated to fight the red templars) or Cullen decided to form this kind of faction by himself(the first is more likely to me.)and hence the reason why we need him,it's either because the red templars is a common enemy or because we need more soldiers and Cassandra already knowing the existence of such military group recommends them,maybe both.



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I can think of many theories... but all very context dependent. Only Knight-Commander to ultimately rebel against Lambert after breaking the Accord? Became a wandering ronin fighting for the downtrod and gets recruited by the Divine for his "robin hood"ness? Cullen runs to the Divine after the Templars break away and pledges himself directly to her, Justinia promotes him for his experience with both extremes of the mage-templar conflict? Cullen is Justinia's second cousin once removed on his father's side, and she's using nepotism? :D
 
 

If he were to get recruited by the Devine... wouldn't he become some sort of a seeker instead of a general tho?



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Plus we're still a nobody to begin with, a lot of people are gonna think we're loopy if/when we tell them that we're the chosen one, so I fully expect it to be difficult for our protagonist at first when trying to recruit anyone. Maybe we'll have to do a quest or two for the 3 advisors/factions in order for them to trust us enough to join?

Especially for a non-Andrastian protagonist,I think the devs mentioned something along the lines in one of the articles,that it would be more challenging for an elf/qunari/rogue to form the inquisition or something similar.



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If he were to get recruited by the Devine... wouldn't he become some sort of a seeker instead of a general tho?

Not necessarily. He could have been promoted to a Knight-Divine.


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I meant to say here... the word "general" has been used in the game. So we do have one. 
 
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Looking at that image with the knowledge we have now, it looks like where the arrow is pointing is the/a militant faction/option, to the right (the woman with the cleavage) may well be a bard working for the espionage faction, so clicking on her would (presumably) bring up and option to put agents into whatever it is her leader suggests, and then on the left with the woman in blue might be the commerce/merchant/whatever faction suggesting whatever her leader advises. The image on each could just be "people" from that region working for the Inquisitor via each one of those factions?



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If he were to get recruited by the Devine... wouldn't he become some sort of a seeker instead of a general tho?

 

The Seekers mostly rebelled with the Templars, titles wouldn't count for anything now anyway. 


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Not necessarily. He could have been promoted to a Knight-Divine.

hmm i have yet to hear of that term... but i guess anything is possible at this point...



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I don't think we could be in there too long, but I never considered us being in the Fade for longer than a few minutes. [TAPS CHIN] A month seems too long, but a week or two could make sense. If it's too long, then how would Cassandra connect us to the initial blast instead of just assuming we were a demon (as her monologue in the trailer suggests)? That's what makes me think we step out pretty soon after the initial explosion.
 
Man, I just wanna know more about everything. Was it a singular blast that killed thousands of people? Did that mean the blast was huge, or that people were all crowded together? Could there be multiple blasts?

Maybe it's just for a day? I'm pretty much expecting there to be some sort of Fade sequence once we get sucked in, so that we can test out our new combat skills, like a tutorial of sorts. If there is then that would take up some time, Amell/Surana was in the Fade for hours when he/she took the Harrowing, so my theory is that it would be something like that in terms of length of time stuck in there.

FWIW, at one point Cameron also described it as being sucked into the Fade before we stepped back out. So it's not like we were somewhere else and fast traveled or or something. Sounds like, for whatever reason, we were there when it happened. 
 

In truth, no. It just seems so to me. Their role changed from indipendant groups to the Inquisition's pillars. The red fists is now our military force. I don't see why they'd name an army 'Red fists' instead of simply the Inqusition's army.

Totally. Agree. Reason #821 why Red Fists leak is suspicious. Time will tell. ^_^
 
 

If he were to get recruited by the Devine... wouldn't he become some sort of a seeker instead of a general tho?

I don't see why. Leliana's not a Seeker and she works more closely with the Big J than anyone. Plus... in 9:40, the Seekers don't work for the Chantry anymore. That alone would argue for a new position title. Like "Random Cullen." ;)
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#20365
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Actually, looking at that image again I think that'll be where we pick what our strongholds look like. Each one is suggesting what they could do to make the stronghold better, then you pic which one and the little statue of the building might change to look like whatever faction appearance you picked.


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The Seekers mostly rebelled with the Templars, titles wouldn't count for anything now anyway. 

they *could* still count if you plan on restoring order i guess...



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I do think it was a singular blast. All that lyrium in the mountain could create an explosion of titanic proportions.

I like this theory about the explosion caused by the available amounts of lyrium in the mountain.Also kinds of explains why the writers would choose Haven(apart from the temple of the sacred ashes being situated there lore-wise).Perhaps,lyrium combined with the huge amount of people who die from the explosion,is enough to cause the initial tear.


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hmm i have yet to hear of that term... but i guess anything is possible at this point...

Oh, it's just a random lore tidbit. The Knights Divine are Templars that directly serve the Divine.


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Looking at that image with the knowledge we have now, it looks like where the arrow is pointing is the/a militant faction/option, to the right (the woman with the cleavage) may well be a bard working for the espionage faction, so clicking on her would (presumably) bring up and option to put agents into whatever it is her leader suggests, and then on the left with the woman in blue might be the commerce/merchant/whatever faction suggesting whatever her leader advises. The image on each could just be "people" from that region working for the Inquisitor via each one of those factions?


Personally, I think these pics are placeholders for the three factions. But I'm 100% convinced this is the process of choosing the Military upgrade for this particular Keep, as I've said before.

Before:
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After:
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Military Keep:
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#20370
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they *could* still count if you plan on restoring order i guess...

 

After it's mission accomplished, perhaps.

 

I can't imagine they'd be focusing too much on the schematics of who or what faction they fall under when the world is on the brink of destruction. It's like the Inquisitor says in the trailer: "whatever we were, we are now the Inquisition".


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FWIW, at one point Cameron also described it as being sucked into the Fade before we stepped back out. So it's not like we were somewhere else and fast traveled or or something. Sounds like, for whatever reason, we were there when it happened.  Totally. Agree. Reason #821 why Red Fists leak is suspicious. Time will tell. ^_^  I don't see why. Leliana's not a Seeker and she works more closely with the Big J than anyone. Plus... in 9:40, the Seekers don't work for the Chantry anymore. That alone would argue for a new position title. Like "Random Cullen." ;)


I read Big J wrong, I clearly have a dirty mind at the moment :P
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I like this theory about the explosion caused by the available amounts of lyrium in the mountain.Also kinds of explains why the writers would choose Haven(apart from the temple of the sacred ashes being situated there lore-wise).Perhaps,lyrium combined with the huge amount of people who die from the explosion,is enough to cause the initial tear.

True. It could be both. The lyrium explosion thins the veil, and when the people die, it rips the Veil to shreds.



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Oh, it's just a random lore tidbit. The Knights Divine are Templars that directly serve the Divine.

Although are not mentioned anywhere in Asunder as one singular individual apparently has the authority to make decisions for the entire Templar and Seeker Orders... ahem... <_<

(And, yes, I know the Knights Divine come from straight from DG's mouth... it's just... grrr... inconsistency in the Templar/Seeker hierarchy I reeeaaally wish WoT had cleared up.)

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True. It could be both. The lyrium explosion thins the veil, and when the people die, it rips the Veil to shreds.

 

Yeah, like that final mass blood spill and act of violence finally tipped things over the edge enough to open the veil. Hell, didn't the old Tervinter Magister's sacrifice hundreds of people to get into the Fade and storm the Golden City? Maybe that's what the central antagonist has done again, but on an immediate level all at once?


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Although are not mentioned anywhere in Asunder as one singular individual apparently has the authority to make decisions for the entire Templar and Seeker Orders... ahem... <_<

(And, yes, I know the Knights Divine come from straight from DG's mouth... it's just... grrr... inconsistency in the Templar/Seeker hierarchy I reeeaaally wish WoT had cleared up.)

Yeah..it's kind of shaky. Granted, I do think they exist in some form, both the Knight Vigilant and the Knights Divine.


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