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I think the human mage will have a different surname than the human warrior/rogue, due to the different background.

Hmm,the devs stated that we won't have detailed playable origin stories,so I don't see why would that be that case.Perhaps Trevelyan is more like Hawke who still has the same origin no matter his/her class.



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That is true. We won't really know for a while. Arggh the more I think I know the more I'm reminded that the little we do know is always subject to change or is not the whole picture. 



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How about your Amell simply taking the name "Trevelyan" after going AWOL from the Wardens, or in the AU where they remained a Circle Mage, taking that name when they all went on the run after the Circle disbanded in Asunder?

 

Trevelyan means "homestead on the hill" (at least according to one translation), which doubles as a sly reference to both their original home of Kirkwall and the Circle Tower, both of which are located on hills.

 

Headcanon maintained! :lol:

I don't want the Warden to become the Inquisitor, because that would be double special snowflake  :lol: And I would have to give her an amnesia or something, because she's too powerful. Magic was crazy powerful in DAO.

But I like the idea of changing the name after Asunder events in the AU!  :wizard:



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Hmm,the devs stated that we won't have detailed playable origin stories,so I don't see why would that be that case.Perhaps Trevelyan is more like Hawke who still has the same origin no matter his/her class.


They did say that human mage gets a different backgrounds. Plus, the backgrounds might influence the game, even if there isn't a playable origin.

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I had no idea they showed the surnames. I rather like the sound of those. 

To the discussion. I don't see why even in passed games they changed backstory depending on whether you were a mage or not. Could a rogue Hawke not still be a cousin to an Amell warden? Why did was it only a mage Hawke had this backstory. It's never made much sense to me and I'm glad to see we only have the one this time around. 

 

Wasn't a mage Hawke. It was only if your Warden was an Amell and was imported into DA2, other wise the Amell died (just like the other origin options) depending on who your Warden was. All existed, but only the one you chose to play survived. 

 

Hawke and the Amells were always related, it's just not always mentioned.



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Wasn't a mage Hawke. It was only if your Warden was an Amell and was imported into DA2, other wise the Amell died (just like the other origin options) depending on who your Warden was. All existed, but only the one you chose to play survived. 
 
Hawke and the Amells were always related, it's just not always mentioned.

I thought it was like that, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying it :).

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Ah really? Well I apologize for that! :) Thanks for the clarification. 



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They said that the human mage background is different from the human warrior/rogue howewer. It'll be special regardless of the name, since it'll be the only background based on the class.
I guess it's possible that the human mage will come from the same family of the human warrior, but I'm honestly doubtful. It depends on which is the human non-mage background.
Plus, the fact that Laidlaw said the the PAX saves served as a sneaky reveal doesn't necessarily mean that they revealed all the background's name.

 

No, they said they were considering making the the mage background different. If they do it'll likely be down to the Fade thing, since Mark Darrah did say that we could be partly responsible for the Fade Breach, so perhaps if you're a mage and you unknowingly helped the big bad then your magic played a part in everyone dying at the peace gathering, if that makes sense?



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No, they said they were considering making the the mage background different. If they do it'll likely be down to the Fade thing, since Mark Darrah did say that we could be partly responsible for the Fade Breach, so perhaps if you're a mage and you unknowingly helped the big bad then your magic played a part in everyone dying at the peace gathering, if that makes sense?

I think that when they clarified the fact that elf won't get two different background based on the classes, they did say that humans got two different backgrounds. There were even complaints becuase someone said that humans were again 'special' because the got two backgrounds were the others races got one.
I'lo find the post.

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I think that when they clarified the fact that elf won't get two different background based on the classes, they did say that humans got two different backgrounds. There were even complaints becuase someone said that humans were again 'special' because the got two backgrounds were the others races got one.
I'lo find the post.

 

I don't recall hearing that. Lemme know when you find the link, that'll be useful for the DAI videos!



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I doubt it. We saw all the Surnames in the PAX demo which Mike Laidlaw later said was purposely put in there as a sneaky reveal. We know Cadash is Dwarven, Lavellan is Elven and Qunari is Adaar, which only leaves Trevelyan for humans. I don't think they'd want to make mage Inquisitor's (especially human ones) more special than the warriors and rogues (and non-human mages).

Makes me think that we will be an apostate born to noble families.



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Speaking of elves and stuff, I never could make a decent looking one without mods. I was originally gonna go for human in DAI since in DA2 all the elves were super skinny and since my Inquisitor is me a female Elf would be the wrong shape since I have a fair amount of T&A going on, but then I saw "Sera" the female Elf in the War room picture and she seems waaay more curvy than the Elves in DA2, if that's the case then I could probably feasibly make an me-Elf Inquisitor that would actually look more like me since I'm roughly Elven height anyway. 


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They did say that human mage gets a different backgrounds. Plus, the backgrounds might influence the game, even if there isn't a playable origin.

I do remember them saying something along these lines, but from this I assumed that they probably meant that some details will change as far as the background stories are concerned,for example a Lavellan warrior/rogue might be a hunter whereas a Lavellan mage might be the keeper's first but still in the same clan.
While with a Trevelyan  mage possibly being an ex-circle mage,his background might be indeed a little different than that of a warrior/rogue but still have the same origins and surname.
 



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I do remember them saying something along these lines, but from this I assumed that they probably meant that some details will change as far as the background stories are concerned,for example a Lavellan warrior/rogue might be a hunter whereas a Lavellan mage might be the keeper's first but still in the same clan.
While with a Trevelyan  mage possibly being an ex-circle mage,his background might be indeed a little different than that of a warrior/rogue but still have the same origins and surname.
 

 

I guess it could be different in that we know we have the option to be a Dalish Elf and they have mages in their clans, so they wouldn't need to have a separate "backstory" for them, whereas a human mage can only really be an apostate or a circle mage (unless we're from Tervinter). Perhaps the change with human mages would just be a quick blurb about whether or not the circle mage actively rebelled with the other circle mages, or wanted to return to the circle? Bah, I dunno!



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I do remember them saying something along these lines, but from this I assumed that they probably meant that some details will change as far as the background stories are concerned,for example a Lavellan warrior/rogue might be a hunter whereas a Lavellan mage might be the keeper's first but still in the same clan.
While with a Trevelyan  mage possibly being an ex-circle mage,his background might be indeed a little different than that of a warrior/rogue but still have the same origins and surname.
 

Yes, I also thought they were talking about details. For example all Trevelyans were some noble offsprings, but the mage Trevelyan was taken to the Circle. So it implies they were brought up in different places, and kind of had different origins.



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I wonder if they plan to explain what the difference in race/class will be for their backstories and reasons why each would be at the peace gathering? They could do little videos introducing each, kinda like they did for the Origin stories in DA:O.


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Yes, I also thought they were talking about details. For example all Trevelyans were some noble offsprings, but the mage Trevelyan was taken to the Circle. So it implies they were brought up in different places, and kind of had different origins.

 

Yeah, same bloodline but a different fate. Presumably that would also change their reason for being at the gathering too.


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I couldn't find the post for now. I'll continue searching later.
In the case I'm wrong and there's only one human background, it's practically sure that our background will be as an apostate.

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Yes, I also thought they were talking about details. For example all Trevelyans were some noble offsprings, but the mage Trevelyan was taken to the Circle. So it implies they were brought up in different places, and kind of had different origins.

  

Yeah, same bloodline but a different fate. Presumably that would also change their reason for being at the gathering too.


The problem with this is that the mage human would get the possible contents based on both the Noble background and the Circle mage background.

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I couldn't find the post for now. I'll continue searching later.
In the case I'm wrong and there's only one human background, it's practically sure that our background will be as an apostate.

 

Trevelyan is supposed to be an important family heritage, right? Perhaps our family had enough coin to keep us out of the circle and be taught privately, like Isolde tried to do for Connor in DA:O? 



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Trevelyan is supposed to be an important family heritage, right? Perhaps our family had enough coin to keep us out of the circle and be taught privately, like Isolde tried to do for Connor in DA:O?

Possibly. Though I didn't know there was already lore on the Trevelyan family.

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Possibly. Though I didn't know there was already lore on the Trevelyan family.

 

There isn't yet, lol. The devs said that the Inquisitor's Surnames are all important/notable within Thedasian lore. Some Surnames we've already seen in the previous games, such as Cadash, which is the Surname/house that Shale belonged to when she was still human, the others will be established via other means, either in-game or possibly via novels/comics/whatever means.



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Speaking of elves and stuff, I never could make a decent looking one without mods. I was originally gonna go for human in DAI since in DA2 all the elves were super skinny and since my Inquisitor is me a female Elf would be the wrong shape since I have a fair amount of T&A going on, but then I saw "Sera" the female Elf in the War room picture and she seems waaay more curvy than the Elves in DA2, if that's the case then I could probably feasibly make an me-Elf Inquisitor that would actually look more like me since I'm roughly Elven height anyway. 

Yes so far the elves in DAI seem to be far from their DA2 anorexic counterpart,Sera at least Solas is still  skinny but it must be either the long Johns or the lack of  curves.Personally from the small glimpse we had I really like the new models,they now kind of look like the elves from the witcher,who were totally badass imo.



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There isn't yet, lol. The devs said that the Inquisitor's Surnames are all important/notable within Thedasian lore. Some Surnames we've already seen in the previous games, such as Cadash, which is the Surname/house that Shale belonged to when she was still human, the others will be established via other means, either in-game or possibly via novels/comics/whatever means.


Ah, I forgot about it. Thanks :).

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I'm more curious about the mage elf background, since we're Dalish. Are we a Dalish apostate, or are we being protected by our clan? Will we get special Dalish magic? (probably not) I'm also curious as to how much impact your backstory will actually have in-game

 

 

Also yay Cullen! :3