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[SnakeCode]

I can't see Cullen going against templar order or thinking it's not needed etc. but I personally hope he becomes more aware of it's corruption and some systems like tranquility that in my opinion go against human rights ^^; I don't know about Evangeline since I haven't read Asunder so I can't compare with her but overall I'd like Cullen to think of templar order, to not red lyrium part of it, with high value but still not being blind on what is wrong with it.

I agree. I 'd like him to still be pro-circle without being anti-mage (I don't believe they are the same thing.) There certainly is corruption within the templar ranks and the utmost must be done to try and get rid of it. Hopefully he could be the link between the Inquisitor and the Templar order and through him we could start to bring about change.

[meanieweenie]

Well here's another thought... what if Cullen doesn't actually offer to help us initially? What if he wants nothing to do with us and we have to convince him we mean no harm? Or any of the companions / advisors for that matter?

[GiggleLam]

I agree. I 'd like him to still be pro-circle without being anti-mage (I don't believe they are the same thing.) There certainly is corruption within the templar ranks and the utmost must be done to try and get rid of it. Hopefully he could be the link between the Inquisitor and the Templar order and through him we could start to bring about change.

I agree with this so much. The idea of a few trying to keep the order from falling to corruption seems...I don't know...fairy tale romantic? If that even makes sense. Maybe he is trying to show that not all templars are corrupt. Perhaps at some point more will join in on the fight on his behalf.  

 

Well here's another thought... what if Cullen doesn't actually offer to help us initially? What if he wants nothing to do with us and we have to convince him we mean no harm? Or any of the companions / advisors for that matter?

I would like the challenge of having to prove my inquisitor is worth their time. But after a few playthroughs it might be boring if certain quests had to be done one way in order to gain a companions favour. I would hope that not everyone is all 'Here let me help you! :D' either  lol

[SnakeCode]

To be fair, I don't think anyone will help us without a lot of persuading first. This is a Bioware game after all. I'm sure we'll have to run errands, complete quests and help people sort out their own problems before anyone agrees to help/follow us.

[Dirgegun]

Personally, I hope the advisers (and maybe even the companions) give us trouble! I mean the Inquisitor is some random person that stepped out of the fade, of all places, so I definitely want to see suspicion! I want to see friction! I want to see some people give us a hard time to balance out whoever will be looking at us as 'the chosen one'.

 

I LOVED that Cassandra saw the Inquisitor as a possible threat in that gameplay trailer! 'Cause really, I think that's the only smart way to react to a whole lot of death and then just some random dude or dudette being all "oh hey, I'm alive and sorta touched by the fade. We cool?" 

[ChachiBobinks]

Thanks! I've been lurking on these boards for a few years now. Thought it was about time I plucked up the courage to start posting.

 

Awww, you don't need courage to hang out here. We're a pretty accepting group. After all, they did let me join...

 

I agree with this so much. The idea of a few trying to keep the order from falling to corruption seems...I don't know...fairy tale romantic? If that even makes sense. Maybe he is trying to show that not all templars are corrupt. Perhaps at some point more will join in on the fight on his behalf.  

 

I would like the challenge of having to prove my inquisitor is worth their time. But after a few playthroughs it might be boring if certain quests had to be done one way in order to gain a companions favour. I would hope that not everyone is all 'Here let me help you! :D' either  lol

 

Reason # 8166 why I think Cullen is still a templar. He could be doing it as some sort of attempt to rebuild the Order, or prove that there is still good in this place where his people have been tainted by red lyrium. I'm going to stand by this thought pool until the day... I play the game and get proven incorrect, I suppose.

[ChachiBobinks]

I LOVED that Cassandra saw the Inquisitor as a possible threat in that gameplay trailer! 'Cause really, I think that's the only smart way to react to a whole lot of death and then just some random dude or dudette being all "oh hey, I'm alive and sorta touched by the fade. We cool?" 

 

I loved that Cassandra saw Quizzy as a threat because it backs up my theory that Cassandra can't exist where conspiracy theories do not lie.

 

I mean, seriously, is she capable of pleasant conversations?

[SnakeCode]

I really like that idea. I also wonder how people will react to Inquisitors of different races. I'm having a hard time imagining a Qunari or Dalish Inquisitor easily building support, at least early in the game.

 

As far as Cullen goes (on topic WooHoo!) I can see him being cautious of a mage or Qunari. But what reasons do you think he'd have to be wary around say, a dwarf, or a non-mage?

[R2s Muse]

I think they were already in the team. In the trailer Cass says, "Our soldiers found you," so that means the group of people she represents (Seekers, Chantry, team Justinia?) already has a military force, and Cullen perhaps is the one who keeps it organized and makes sure they do what the Divine tells them. I don't think Cassandra's soldiers are seekers, because didn't Seekers rebel? I haven't reached that point in Asunder yet. So I think Divine was building her own army, and maybe Cass helped with recruiting people, and offered Cullen a place too.

Both the Seekers and the Templars break away from the Chantry by breaking the Nevarran Accord, but we also know that some remain loyal to the Chantry (World of Thedas). Probably the simplest scenario is that Cullen is amongst those still loyal. But when did he start working for the Chantry? My questions remain about why they didn't know more about Kirkwall if he's been an insider for a while.
 
 

I'm just worried about his character development after the end of Dragon Age 2. I really don't want him to turn his back on the templar order because of the mess that happened in Kirkwall. I'm still worried that Bioware could pull a Cerberus with the Templars and change a grey conflict into a black and white one (I respect that it already is a black and white conflict to some, but I do disagree.) I feel that Cullen leaving the order would hint at that being the case.

First, welcome! Second I doubt they'd ever make it black and white. I think the fact that the templars have multiple factions (red templars, divine-loyal templars, lambert-ish templars) argues against it being simple. I think for Cullen, he seems to cling to an ideal of what the Templar Order stands for. I'd be surprised if his Ideal changes... but reconciling his Ideal with reality could be an interesting episode for him. One I want to see!
 

I agree. I 'd like him to still be pro-circle without being anti-mage (I don't believe they are the same thing.) There certainly is corruption within the templar ranks and the utmost must be done to try and get rid of it. Hopefully he could be the link between the Inquisitor and the Templar order and through him we could start to bring about change.

This I totally see. Folks like to say that he's suddenly pro mage or anti Circle at the end of the DA2, but in my view he's still probably pro-FAIRLY-RUN-circle and increasingly-willing-to-give-mages-benefit-of-the-doubt.

[GiggleLam]

I really like that idea. I also wonder how people will react to Inquisitors of different races. I'm having a hard time imagining a Qunari or Dalish Inquisitor easily building support, at least early in the game.

 

As far as Cullen goes (on topic WooHoo!) I can see him being cautious of a mage or Qunari. But what reasons do you think he'd have to be wary around say, a dwarf, or a non-mage?

Well in DAO I think it is he isn't too kind to Dwarves, and he doesn't seem to like the Qunari in DA2. In my mind if you're a human non-mage you'll have the easiest time convincing him to join you. I hope there is resistance, I want the challenge in my later play throughs.

 

Awww, you don't need courage to hang out here. We're a pretty accepting group. After all, they did let me join...

 

 

Reason # 8166 why I think Cullen is still a templar. He could be doing it as some sort of attempt to rebuild the Order, or prove that there is still good in this place where his people have been tainted by red lyrium. I'm going to stand by this thought pool until the day... I play the game and get proven incorrect, I suppose.

High five! I like this idea, and I don't see it as implausible at all. They would have to have a good reason to say that he is no longer a Templar and that he doesn't stand for what he believes in anymore. 

 

Personally, I hope the advisers (and maybe even the companions) give us trouble! I mean the Inquisitor is some random person that stepped out of the fade, of all places, so I definitely want to see suspicion! I want to see friction! I want to see some people give us a hard time to balance out whoever will be looking at us as 'the chosen one'.

 

I LOVED that Cassandra saw the Inquisitor as a possible threat in that gameplay trailer! 'Cause really, I think that's the only smart way to react to a whole lot of death and then just some random dude or dudette being all "oh hey, I'm alive and sorta touched by the fade. We cool?" 

Yes! I also like that Cassandra isn't to keen on us at the beginning. It makes so much sense. There will have to be a fine line between convincing the companions and going out of your way to do something to impress them like in DA2. Any time I was going to deal with Mages I would make sure Fenris wasn't there, I don't want to blindly pick the same type of answer to please one person.

[Crunchycarp]

I really like that idea. I also wonder how people will react to Inquisitors of different races. I'm having a hard time imagining a Qunari or Dalish Inquisitor easily building support, at least early in the game.
 
As far as Cullen goes (on topic WooHoo!) I can see him being cautious of a mage or Qunari. But what reasons do you think he'd have to be wary around say, a dwarf, or a non-mage?

I think he will be more accepting of mages after what happened in Kirkwall.
He might be cautious of a qun!Quizzy at first but he'll probably warm up to them. As for the off topic stuff, we go off topic a lot

[BFace]

 

This I totally see. Folks like to say that he's suddenly pro mage or anti Circle at the end of the DA2, but in my view he's still probably pro-FAIRLY-RUN-circle and increasingly-willing-to-give-mages-benefit-of-the-doubt.

I see it this way, as well. I think he sees his duty as protector (both *from* mages and *of* mages) as less a job and more a calling, maybe. I feel like his sense of duty won't change all that much (with the exception of learning a bit more about taking each mage as a separate case, or, you know, as a person. *grin*) regardless of who he's actually working for.

[ChachiBobinks]

I see it this way, as well. I think he sees his duty as protector (both *from* mages and *of* mages) as less a job and more a calling, maybe. I feel like his sense of duty won't change all that much (with the exception of learning a bit more about taking each mage as a separate case, or, you know, as a person. *grin*) regardless of who he's actually working for.

 

I think those of us who prefer mages enjoy headcanon'ing the snot out of this one. In as much as he's seen the bad side of the mage/templar conflict, he's also seen two awesome mages rise from the ashes to save their respective homes, yeah? Surely that has to weigh heavy on his mind. So I think that kind of experience will allow him to better see a mage as a person instead of a collective oogly-boogly evil group.

[Galagraphia]

I LOVED that Cassandra saw the Inquisitor as a possible threat in that gameplay trailer! 'Cause really, I think that's the only smart way to react to a whole lot of death and then just some random dude or dudette being all "oh hey, I'm alive and sorta touched by the fade. We cool?" 

I totally see it like this (long and silly stuff ahead):

 

Spoiler

Miss Trevelyan (aka MT): *falls out of the Fade*

Varric: Hello there! *looking dashing* What's that? Raining men? I thought BioWare was going to fix that.

MT: I'm a woman! *gets up*

Varric: Now, that was probably personal.

Cassandra: *arrives with soldiers* Halt! Who are you? Why are you not dead? Did you cause this?

MT: Oh, I'm nobody. Was just going through the forest to visit my poor old grandma. You can call me Red Riding Hood.

Varric: Miss Red here fell out of the Fade, Seeker.

MT: *quietly swears*

Cassandra: *intimidatingly points her sword at MT* You did this? You caused this all?

MT: Do I look like I can do some powerful Fade-y magic?

Hand of Fade: *suddenly glows*

Everybody: *freaks out*

MT: *raises the creepy hand* Stay where you are! Or I'll turn you into swines!

Everybody: *does as she said*

MT: Ok. Well, was a pleasure to meet you! *runs away*

Cassandra: She was bluffing! Get her!

*Epic chase scene*

MT: *sings* Not gonna get us! Not gonna get us! *casts haste*

Cassandra: Dammit!

MT: *suddenly runs into a horse*

Cullen: *sits on the horseback, handsome as hell* Holy smite!

MT: *falls on the ground, suddenly no mana* S*it, a templar!

Cullen: *dismounts, picks MT and heads towards Cassandra* That's right, a templar.

Cassandra: A-ha!

Varric: A-ha!

Soldiers: A-ha!

Cullen: Caught your apostate, here you go. I'm glad this game finally has horses.

MT: I didn't do it. Whatever it was.

Cassandra: I will see about that. It's time for Inspector Cassandra! *Inspector Cassandra's theme starts playing*

End of Prologue.

 

[ChachiBobinks]

I totally see it like this (long and silly stuff ahead):

 

Spoiler

Miss Trevelyan (aka MT): *falls out of the Fade*

Varric: Hello there! *looking dashing* What's that? Raining men? I thought BioWare was going to fix that.

MT: I'm a woman! *gets up*

Varric: Now, that was probably personal.

Cassandra: *arrives with soldiers* Halt! Who are you? Why are you not dead? Did you cause this?

MT: Oh, I'm nobody. Was just going through the forest to visit my poor old grandma. You can call me Red Riding Hood.

Varric: Miss Red here fell out of the Fade, Seeker.

MT: *quietly swears*

Cassandra: *intimidatingly points her sword at MT* You did this? You caused this all?

MT: Do I look like I can do some powerful Fade-y magic?

Hand of Fade: *suddenly glows*

Everybody: *freaks out*

MT: *raises the creepy hand* Stay where you are! Or I'll turn you into swines!

Everybody: *does as she said*

MT: Ok. Well, was a pleasure to meet you! *runs away*

Cassandra: She was bluffing! Get her!

*Epic chase scene*

MT: *sings* Not gonna get us! Not gonna get us! *casts haste*

Cassandra: Dammit!

MT: *suddenly runs into a horse*

Cullen: *sits on the horseback, handsome as hell* Holy smite!

MT: *falls on the ground, suddenly no mana* S*it, a templar!

Cullen: *dismounts, picks MT and heads towards Cassandra* That's right, a templar.

Cassandra: A-ha!

Varric: A-ha!

Soldiers: A-ha!

Cullen: Caught your apostate, here you go. I'm glad this game finally has horses.

MT: I didn't do it. Whatever it was.

Cassandra: I will see about that. It's time for Inspector Cassandra! *Inspector Cassandra's theme starts playing*

End of Prologue.

 

 

Oh, Maker! XD

[Panda]

I really like that idea. I also wonder how people will react to Inquisitors of different races. I'm having a hard time imagining a Qunari or Dalish Inquisitor easily building support, at least early in the game.

 

As far as Cullen goes (on topic WooHoo!) I can see him being cautious of a mage or Qunari. But what reasons do you think he'd have to be wary around say, a dwarf, or a non-mage?

 

Well stepping out of fade harmed when all other people died in the area and having odd fade hand are enough reason to be suspicous. I think being qunari or mage would just rise that suspiciousness.

[Crunchycarp]

I totally see it like this (long and silly stuff ahead):
 

Spoiler

Miss Trevelyan (aka MT): *falls out of the Fade*
Varric: Hello there! *looking dashing* What's that? Raining men? I thought BioWare was going to fix that.
MT: I'm a woman! *gets up*
Varric: Now, that was probably personal.
Cassandra: *arrives with soldiers* Halt! Who are you? Why are you not dead? Did you cause this?
MT: Oh, I'm nobody. Was just going through the forest to visit my poor old grandma. You can call me Red Riding Hood.
Varric: Miss Red here fell out of the Fade, Seeker.
MT: *quietly swears*
Cassandra: *intimidatingly points her sword at MT* You did this? You caused this all?
MT: Do I look like I can do some powerful Fade-y magic?
Hand of Fade: *suddenly glows*
Everybody: *freaks out*
MT: *raises the creepy hand* Stay where you are! Or I'll turn you into swines!
Everybody: *does as she said*
MT: Ok. Well, was a pleasure to meet you! *runs away*
Cassandra: She was bluffing! Get her!
*Epic chase scene*
MT: *sings* Not gonna get us! Not gonna get us! *casts haste*
Cassandra: Dammit!
MT: *suddenly runs into a horse*
Cullen: *sits on the horseback, handsome as hell* Holy smite!
MT: *falls on the ground, suddenly no mana* S*it, a templar!
Cullen: *dismounts, picks MT and heads towards Cassandra* That's right, a templar.
Cassandra: A-ha!
Varric: A-ha!
Soldiers: A-ha!
Cullen: Caught your apostate, here you go. I'm glad this game finally has horses.
MT: I didn't do it. Whatever it was.
Cassandra: I will see about that. It's time for Inspector Cassandra! *Inspector Cassandra's theme starts playing*
End of Prologue.
 

I hope there is a way to resist Templar abilitys because we will run into (what it seems like) a lot of Templars and they are bound to be able to cancel magic. It would be a funny cutscene to see a Templar try to drain our magic because he or she saw us use magic but it keep failing.

[SnakeCode]

I hope there is a way to resist Templar abilitys because we will run into (what it seems like) a lot of Templars and they are bound to be able to cancel magic. It would be a funny cutscene to see a Templar try to drain our magic because he or she saw us use magic but it keep failing.

I can't see that being a problem. In the previous two games the templars we have fought seemed to have forgotten they have anti magic abilities at all. They just hack at you with swords. 

 

I for one would actually like templars to make it more difficult for those playing as a mage. Not only would it back up the lore, but it would make for more tactical gameplay (having to rely on allies more instead of being an all powerful tank.)

[Galagraphia]

I can't see that being a problem. In the previous two games the templars we have fought seemed to have forgotten they have anti magic abilities at all. They just hack at you with swords. 

 

I for one would actually like templars to make it more difficult for those playing as a mage. Not only would it back up the lore, but it would make for more tactical gameplay (having to rely on allies more instead of being an all powerful tank.)

It was difficult in DAO on nightmare. Whenever you encounter a group of templars, they just stun your mages for the most of the fight. And burn your mana too, I think. if this hardcore mode returns in DAI, it will be really difficult, because we don't have blood magic anymore to restore our mage's health and mana, we don't have endless lyrium potions too. So tanks will become more important, I think, and that's why I was hoping Cullen would come along. I just wanted him to tank for me   Will have to rely on Cassandra instead I guess. (if after all my acceptance of inevitable turns out Cullen is a companion, I will totally have a heart attack from happiness)

[Crunchycarp]

I can't see that being a problem. In the previous two games the templars we have fought seemed to have forgotten they have anti magic abilities at all. They just hack at you with swords. 
 
I for one would actually like templars to make it more difficult for those playing as a mage. Not only would it back up the lore, but it would make for more tactical gameplay (having to rely on allies more instead of being an all powerful tank.)

Agreed, even though it would make fighting Templars as a Mage hard, I would love to see them live up to what they are. It would also mean that we would be able to enchant things to have magic canceling resistance

[Rhea]

Well stepping out of fade harmed when all other people died in the area and having odd fade hand are enough reason to be suspicous. I think being qunari or mage would just rise that suspiciousness.

 

 

Spoiler

http://punchingstars...way-broquisitor

[Caja]

OT. But,  I just ordered Asunder, and then 5 minutes later I forgot, and I almost ordered it again. Haha I'm such a derp

 

Ha,ha, then we are very much alike. I bought a videogame in a store once and when I got home I found out that I already had the game... buried under a lot of other games. 

[Kaidan Fan]

I totally see it like this (long and silly stuff ahead):

 

Spoiler

Miss Trevelyan (aka MT): *falls out of the Fade*

Varric: Hello there! *looking dashing* What's that? Raining men? I thought BioWare was going to fix that.

MT: I'm a woman! *gets up*

Varric: Now, that was probably personal.

Cassandra: *arrives with soldiers* Halt! Who are you? Why are you not dead? Did you cause this?

MT: Oh, I'm nobody. Was just going through the forest to visit my poor old grandma. You can call me Red Riding Hood.

Varric: Miss Red here fell out of the Fade, Seeker.

MT: *quietly swears*

Cassandra: *intimidatingly points her sword at MT* You did this? You caused this all?

MT: Do I look like I can do some powerful Fade-y magic?

Hand of Fade: *suddenly glows*

Everybody: *freaks out*

MT: *raises the creepy hand* Stay where you are! Or I'll turn you into swines!

Everybody: *does as she said*

MT: Ok. Well, was a pleasure to meet you! *runs away*

Cassandra: She was bluffing! Get her!

*Epic chase scene*

MT: *sings* Not gonna get us! Not gonna get us! *casts haste*

Cassandra: Dammit!

MT: *suddenly runs into a horse*

Cullen: *sits on the horseback, handsome as hell* Holy smite!

MT: *falls on the ground, suddenly no mana* S*it, a templar!

Cullen: *dismounts, picks MT and heads towards Cassandra* That's right, a templar.

Cassandra: A-ha!

Varric: A-ha!

Soldiers: A-ha!

Cullen: Caught your apostate, here you go. I'm glad this game finally has horses.

MT: I didn't do it. Whatever it was.

Cassandra: I will see about that. It's time for Inspector Cassandra! *Inspector Cassandra's theme starts playing*

End of Prologue.

 

That was great!

[Aunty Social]

*snip*

 

As far as Cullen goes (on topic WooHoo!) I can see him being cautious of a mage or Qunari. But what reasons do you think he'd have to be wary around say, a dwarf, or a non-mage?

 

 

I'm pretty sure we've all played DA2 here, but DA2 spoiler alert!

Spoiler

The qunari attack Kirkwall at the end of chapter 2, which while a small section of the population, might make it hard for Cullen to trust a Qunari inquisitor.  And the Tal'Vashoth are known as hated among their kind yadda yadda, so they might be seen as worse by Cullen?

 

As far as dwarves go, that may be the easiest race for Cullen to trust, but would he find a dwarf attractive... they have beards you know >.>