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#22401
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Cool thanks, I'll add it. 

I found Lilianna on babynames.com too

 

 

I use babynames because it's a little more trustworthy. 


here's the revised:
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Cool thanks, I'll add it. 

I found Lilianna on babynames.com too

 

 

I use babynames because it's a little more trustworthy. 


here's the revised:

 

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"Entangles Men" LOL!



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"Entangles Men" LOL!

en·tan·gle

 verb \in-ˈtaŋ-gəl, en-\

: to cause (something) to get caught in or twisted withsomething else

: to get (someone) involved in a confusing or difficult situation


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#22404
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To be fair, if Dorian was an elf magister he'd have still own slaves at one point.

Hopefully. From what the survey leak leaked, I'm pretty bored by the guy at this point to be honest. It'd help make things a bit cooler.  

True, it has to be interesting, to say the least, to be an elven magister

 
I suppose it'd be like that Tevinter elf in the Alienage in DAO, Devera. She said "I'm a Tevinter first, and a servant of the Minrathous Circle second. Those are things that matter." (I think there's a phrase that could fit here, but I'm not sure, so I'll keep quiets)
Besides, an elven Magister wouldn't necessarily have to own elven slaves. I'm pretty sure humans and qunari are slaves too, and even then, they could see it as offering them a better life. As Varania pointed out, "Freedom was no boon.".
 

True, I think I'm still just disappointed that Solas wasn't Dorian, lol!

 
Same! I wanted another unorthodox mage background for number 3. Or at least someone who was really pro-Tevinter. More viewpoints! More interest! More stuff!

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Makes me wonder if Dorian had slaves as a magister and if Cullen would react to that.

 

I think that Fenris answered to question if all magisters have slaves is that powerful ones have and others have to bow down to these magisters. So at least I understanded that not all mages in Tevinter have slaves, they might be servers if more powerful magisters or maybe even slaves themselves? Well this is just how I got it. It'll definitely be intresting to hear more of Tevinter from DHMG and also what kinda life he lived here as outcast. Like why he was an outcast and what he wants to change. Is it slavery? Blood magic sacrifices? Power that magisters have? Some other thing or all of them?

 

There's no way they would do class restrictions...they're already getting quite a bit of hate for gender restrictions, I can't imagine the amount of backlash class restrictions would cause. I highly doubt they'll take that path

 

I think class and race restrictions are highly unlike. If there was those too on top of sexuality restrictions I'd think it'd be hard for Bioware to even give one LI for every class in every race.

 

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I'm quite nervous about these. I highly dislike when there is not health regen. I haven't ever played game where I would be: yay, I don't got a health regen or that naah health regen is useless XD I hate how Reckoning doesn't have it. Also I dislike DA2's playing style just because heals and potions have higher cooldowns, I can't even play it with normal cause of this although I have played Origins with hard. 



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 I wanted another unorthodox mage background for number 3. Or at least someone who was really pro-Tevinter. More viewpoints! More interest! More stuff!

 

Dorian IS NOT pro-Tervinter

 

He want's to change the way the government is. He doesn't want to completely destroy it though if that's what you're getting at:

"Dorian-Dorian Pavus is a Tevinter magister. The title conjures fear of arcane master who once enslaved nations. Dorian may wield the power of the magisters, but he delights in not being what you would expect. Brazen and clever, this outcast is on a crusade to rid his homeland of its corruption."



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It sounded like the same voice to me for both trailers


Sounds like Bann Teagan

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Dorian IS NOT pro-Tervinter

He want's to change the way the government is. He doesn't want to completely destroy it though if that's what you're getting at:"[/size]Dorian-Dorian Pavus is a Tevinter magister. The title conjures fear of arcane master who once enslaved nations. Dorian may wield the power of the magisters, but he delights in not being what you would expect. Brazen and clever, this outcast is on a crusade to rid his homeland of its corruption."[/size]

Exactly, I wanted someone who was supportive as it is.
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Exactly, I wanted someone who was supportive as it is.

I was hoping for this, or at least a templar. Oh well. :unsure:



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Exactly, I wanted someone who was supportive as it is.

 

 

O_O

 

good luck with that...



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Anyone chatting this evening?

 

 

ETA: Apparently 2 a.m. is now "evening" to me? :P This is what happens when you work second shift!  ;)



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O_O
 
good luck with that...


Not because I agree with that. I just think it's a way more interesting point of view to explore.
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I don't agree - his reaction was far more than a mere crush and he knew her for many years. Anyways, the point being I think this shows he won't be class locked from mages.

All head canons aside, we don't know how long he's known her. What we do know is that he'd barely even spoken to her. If you pursue all the dialogue options you can have Amell/Surana say "who are you, again?" Suggesting that even if she does know his name they've not spoken enough to be friends or even close. If you pick the dialogue that says "I knew I would not fail my Harrowing" he says "you've always been so confident... er, or so I've heard" suggesting again that he's not had much interaction with her beyond admiring her from afar.

I dare say back then he thought he was in love with her, but he was very naive and inexperienced at the time with no real romantic experience to know what real love is. Hell, when I was young I thought I was in love with a few guys despite having hardly any interaction with them, it was just mere infatuation, just like Cullen experiences with Amell/Surana. In DA2 he remembers Amell (which also counts for Surana) fondly, some people consider that to be him still lusting after her, but to be honest I think he was just remembering her fondly tinged with a bit of melancholiness that he'd never met another woman (or potentially man) of the same caliber again... To me that sounded like an obvious hint that he was starting to open up to the idea of a relationship, even if it was only subconsciously, so it comes as no surprise that he's a love interest in DA:I, clearly our Inquisitor will be that caliber/type of woman/man that he likes.
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On health regen, i think Bioware should've been more clear with their statement, because people are still confused. It's not true that health won't regen. It will, partially. There'll be treshold under which health will regenerate (for example, one will be on 50% of health). The tresholds will be either based on the difficulty level or indipendant slides. So I'll guess that is possible that at easy/casual you can have a pretty high treshold.
That doesn't mean that the game will be easy, since they limited healing spells and potions, but I think that it's possible that they'll make the lowes level very easy. While they want to make the game more challenging (some people complained that the games were easy, and I'd somehow agree. If you build your party correctly the games weren't that difficult), I'm sure they know a lot of people play DA for the story, and I don't see why they'd make casual hard.
My dream would be that there'll be lots of indipendant slides (like for friendly fire), so that people can customize their game's difficulty as they wish.

On Adamant, it really seem that it is the same fortress in the PAX demo (it'd be weird if they made two fortress in the WA very similar). I wonder if the named it Gryffon wing in the demo becuase the didn't want to reveal its real name? Or maybe the name changed after we took it?

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Not because I agree with that. I just think it's a way more interesting point of view to explore.

 

I kind of wanted something like that but similar. I wanted a powerful elven magister who, as his description says, is determined to show the world that Tevinter isn't as bad as it seems. But being an elven, he would be in conflict with what his nation does, especially when he sees how, outside Tevinter, elves are almost always 2nd class citizens. He would be a more complex and conflicted character than a simple ole boring human from Tevinter.


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LolaLei I think we once talked about this in the previous Cullen thread and you pretty much changed how I see the Cullen+Amell/Surana relationship. I had thought his comments in DA2 were about him still being in love with them but your view got me thinking. It makes a lot more sense for him to simply be remembering a more innocent and maybe happier time and the person he imagined Amell/Surana to be was perhaps more in his head than in reality.

What I'm still wondering however is how will he interact with an Inquisitor that he has feelings for. Do you think that he will keep any of his previous shyness? Or has he moved completely beyond that? He certainly seems to have matured emotionally in other areas. But wouldn't he need experience in romance to move past his nerves? Then again we don't know much of anything of is personal life during DA2 so it might be that he has gotten some experience between Amell/Surana and the Inquisitor.


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Is anyone else concerned that DAI will be more focused on these combat encounters and it's dangerous open world than it's story and characters?

Don't get me wrong, I know the characters are going to be entertaining, but I'm concerned it's going to be: get quest, travel through a pretty location, get attacked a lot, start quest, have a mini boss fight, capture a keep, rinse and repeat with only a little variation in between just to get to the next major story quest, kinda like all the fed-ex style quests in DA2 where that's all we pretty much done between the big quest lines.
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I dare say back then he thought he was in love with her, but he was very naive and inexperienced at the time with no real romantic experience to know what real love is. Hell, when I was young I thought I was in love with a few guys despite having hardly any interaction with them, it was just mere infatuation, just like Cullen experiences with Amell/Surana. In DA2 he remembers Amell (which also counts for Surana) fondly, some people consider that to be him still lusting after her, but to be honest I think he was just remembering her fondly tinged with a bit of melancholiness that he'd never met another woman (or potentially man) of the same caliber again... To me that sounded like an obvious hint that he was starting to open up to the idea of a relationship, even if it was only subconsciously, so it comes as no surprise that he's a love interest in DA:I, clearly our Inquisitor will be that caliber/type of woman/man that he likes.

 

Amazing reply and insight; I got a little misty-eyed lol <3



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Is anyone else concerned that DAI will be more focused on these combat encounters and it's dangerous open world than it's story and characters?

 

Yes and No? I think it just feels that way because they're kind of marketing to the traditional hardcore straight white boy gamer lol So they're emphasizing combat, graphics, etc. 



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Is anyone else concerned that DAI will be more focused on these combat encounters and it's dangerous open world than it's story and characters?
Don't get me wrong, I know the characters are going to be entertaining, but I'm concerned it's going to be: get quest, travel through a pretty location, get attacked a lot, start quest, have a mini boss fight, capture a keep, rinse and repeat with only a little variation in between just to get to the next major story quest, kinda like all the fed-ex style quests in DA2 where that's all we pretty much done between the big quest lines.


No, not really. It's just that a lot of the criticism aimed at Bioware games in the past is that the combat is not as strong as its characters and or story. Also, right now i think the hype train is starting, so they're best bet is to make the game seem 'cool' and 'epic' to newcomers.

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What I'm still wondering however is how will he interact with an Inquisitor that he has feelings for. Do you think that he will keep any of his previous shyness? Or has he moved completely beyond that? He certainly seems to have matured emotionally in other areas. But wouldn't he need experience in romance to move past his nerves? Then again we don't know much of anything of is personal life during DA2 so it might be that he has gotten some experience between Amell/Surana and the Inquisitor.

Mike Laidlaw and Cullen's VO both revealed that he's still a little awkward with "just the right amount" of blushing/stuttering when flustered, so it's sounds like he's not really had an awful lot more experience when talking to someone he's developing feelings for. I don't think he'll be an Alistair 2.0 when it comes to his approach, though.

I quite like the idea that despite the hard life he's had and the fact that he's matured there's still a hint of vulnerability to his character.
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What I'm still wondering however is how will he interact with an Inquisitor that he has feelings for. Do you think that he will keep any of his previous shyness? Or has he moved completely beyond that? He certainly seems to have matured emotionally in other areas. But wouldn't he need experience in romance to move past his nerves? Then again we don't know much of anything of is personal life during DA2 so it might be that he has gotten some experience between Amell/Surana and the Inquisitor.

 

I think he would initially be a little shy and will blush and stammer a bit when he's first starting to have feelings and express them, but I think that once he's actually in a romance he'd gain confidence and relax. I would imagine the shyness at first because I think that's a personality trait, but I don't think it would last very long once he was in a relationship and could express himself openly.


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Is anyone else concerned that DAI will be more focused on these combat encounters and it's dangerous open world than it's story and characters?
Don't get me wrong, I know the characters are going to be entertaining, but I'm concerned it's going to be: get quest, travel through a pretty location, get attacked a lot, start quest, have a mini boss fight, capture a keep, rinse and repeat with only a little variation in between just to get to the next major story quest, kinda like all the fed-ex style quests in DA2 where that's all we pretty much done between the big quest lines.

The major concern I have for DAI (and TW3) is in how they'll mix the story-heavy content their games usually have with the open world content. Being not completely OW is a smart thing to do, in my opinion, but we'll have to wait to see the results.
Though I don't understand the problem with your example. It seems very similar to how DAO was, expect the keep part. i guess that if the majority of the quests will be about conquering keeps it might become repetitive, but Indont think it'll be like that. The Emerald Graves and Exalted plains doesn't seem focused on keeps, and we'll have in the game villages (and possibly one-two cities) to focus on. We know that there'll be at least two: Crestwood and Redcliffe.
And Vivienne's recruitment might be around a Circle.
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I think he would initially be a little shy and will blush and stammer a bit when he's first starting to have feelings and express them, but I think that once he's actually in a romance he'd gain confidence and relax. I would imagine some initial shyness because I think that's a personality trait, but I don't think it would last very long once he was in a relationship and could express himself openly.


It could be that the slight stuttering and awkwardness when he's being flirted with this time around could come from being caught off-guard.

I mean, he's part of this big effort to save Thedas, right? He's being lead by this strong and powerful (and potentially dangerous ) Inquisitor and he's there to advisor her/him etc, so I doubt it's even crossed his mind that it would be anything more than a professional working relationship for the greater good, he's just there to do his part and then BOOM! The Inquisitor herself/himself is actually complimenting and flirting with him! That'll come as a surprise to anyone, especially when he likely wasn't expecting or even looking to find love.
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I think my Inquisitor would be a super awkward flirter. Poor Cullen!  :P