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[TreeHuggerHannah]

I'm ok with angst, I just hope it won't be too much.

 

Same. Cullen has some fairly serious problems, and I think he'll always have some residual effects from the trauma he suffered. That said, based on how far Cullen has come by the end of DA2, I think he's taken some steps to try to come to terms with what happened and to heal. (I also headcanon that the because templars would frequently be exposed to traumatic events, the Order has... if not what we in the modern world would consider therapy, at least some rudimentary methods to help traumatized templars heal psychologically, and I further headcanon that that's what Cullen was doing at Greenfell.) I don't expect Cullen to be as if the events at Kinloch Hold and Kirkwall never happened, but I also hope he's done some healing work on his own, and it's a story of equal partners rather than the Inquisitor "fixing" him.

[Galagraphia]

Oh Cullen, you will never be useless to me, or to my Inquisitor! 

 

I could definitely see that as a reason for Cullen not to be on the front lines - assuming you can get rid of a lyrium addiction, which I'm not sure of.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure about that too. I just kind of don't want Cullen to get involved in the black market business, I guess. It's so humiliating Like a real drug addict. And what if Carta sells him something bad? And he gets an overdose, or red lyrium instead of normal lyrium? So I really hope he can quit. 

[TreeHuggerHannah]

It would certainly be easier on poor Cullen if he had somehow managed to escape his addiction. I do think that at least as of the end of DA2 he'd have been addicted, though. He might have been able to do without lyrium when he was being tortured at Kinloch Hold, maybe because he was young and hadn't been taking it for long yet, but there's no way paranoid Meredith would let her templars get away with not taking it in my opinion. I would think she'd see it as disloyalty, and enforce compliance rather harshly.

 

Of course he may have found a cure of some sort since leaving Kirkwall obviously.

[Galagraphia]

If I can do it, I will totally steal a pinch of Andraste's sacred ashes for him I hope I can do it before everything explodes. I need something with epic healing powers. And the only other epic healing thing I know is Ser Pounce-a-Lot, except he's not a thing, and I don't know where he is.

[LolaLei]

True.. in a weird kinda way i see her kind of as Cullen (regarding the past) as in they both had bad experiences regarding mages... but she had a bit more of a personal one then Cullen did tho.. so I guess she took it mor to heart....
I suppose the only difference is that SHE was in command and she had more "power" over what was going on... some of her methods are not really great but I suppose that's how she saw things as being "right" and try to keep order among the mages... I don't think she meant to be evil at the beginning I think she was tying to prevent other mages from becoming into what her sister did...

I've always seen the whole Meredith thing as what Cullen was in danger of becoming had he continued down the path he was going. We were just fortunate that Cullen is a thinking man and gradually came to question Kirkwall's Order and the way Meredith was running things. Had he continued to follow her blindly we would've ended up with the man described in his DA:O epilogues!

[LolaLei]

If I can do it, I will totally steal a pinch of Andraste's sacred ashes for him I hope I can do it before everything explodes. I need something with epic healing powers. And the only other epic healing thing I know is Ser Pounce-a-Lot, except he's not a thing, and I don't know where he is.

I'd totally steal a small pouch of Andraste's ashes, they'd totally come in handy at some point down the line! Plus, it seems a huge waste letting it get blown up!

[LolaLei]

It would certainly be easier on poor Cullen if he had somehow managed to escape his addiction. I do think that at least as of the end of DA2 he'd have been addicted, though. He might have been able to do without lyrium when he was being tortured at Kinloch Hold, maybe because he was young and hadn't been taking it for long yet, but there's no way paranoid Meredith would let her templars get away with not taking it in my opinion. I would think she'd see it as disloyalty, and enforce compliance rather harshly.

Of course he may have found a cure of some sort since leaving Kirkwall obviously.

I would suspect that he's still on Lyrium, BioWare generally like to keep a little bit of angst in there, even if it's something we'll never see or hear in-game. The knowledge that getting into a relationship with Cullen will eventually mean that he's gonna start losing his memory and end up a right old state is all part and parcel of taking him on. In the same way that romancing Anders means that there's always the risk that we'll lose him to Justice or that he'll do something stupid, and romancing Fenris means that his Lyrium markings could cause untold amounts of damage to him down the line.

... Why is it always the men that have the terrible angst attached to dating them? LOL!

[TreeHuggerHannah]

The knowledge that getting into a relationship with Cullen will eventually mean that he's gonna start losing his memory and end up a right old state is all part and parcel of taking him on. 

 

Would take him anyway, given the option. 

[Galagraphia]

You know, I kind of think lyrium dementia may be not that terrible. Look at Greagoir, for example, he's been running the Tower for so long that nobody can remember when it was somebody else, so he's really old, but still not mad. I think with that kind of job most templars end up killed by apostates/abominations before they are old enough to go crazy. Now compare it to the Grey Warden taint, and the taint totally wins in the Game of Angst. The biggest problem is what Cullen will have to deal with at the present moment, and that is getting lyrium. Our Inquisition will probably have it, because we'll need it for our mages, and surely we can spare some of it for Cullen and Cass? So yeah, that problem may be completely ignored by the game.

We may get the dialogue, like, "I will probably start losing my mind slowly after I turn 60. Will you still love me when I'm no longer young and beautiful?" And considering the possibility of the end of the world, my Inquisitor will totally say yes, and will think about the future when that future comes.

 

My biggest concern is that in Thedas you need to kill somebody to get married, did you notice that? You need to kill Loghain to marry Alistair, you need to kill Anders to marry Sebastian. If Cullen asks for somebody's head as a wedding gift, I will have to say no, because I don't like that tradition. I hope living in sin will still be an option

[Adela]

I've always seen the whole Meredith thing as what Cullen was in danger of becoming had he continued down the path he was going. We were just fortunate that Cullen is a thinking man and gradually came to question Kirkwall's Order and the way Meredith was running things. Had he continued to follow her blindly we would've ended up with the man described in his DA:O epilogues!

Ya, To me I think that Hawke  was the one who made him see how the order truly was, and came to realize that what was going on there was def not right at all, Im sure that he could have figured that out on his own eventually but it might have been too latr by then.... OR  if Hawke wasnt to show up at all in Kirkwall perhaps Meridith wouldn't have gone that far as to take red lyrium.. I think that Hawke.. was kind of part of the problem sometimes

 

 

[Adela]

You know, I kind of think lyrium dementia may be not that terrible. Look at Greagoir, for example, he's been running the Tower for so long that nobody can remember when it was somebody else, so he's really old, but still not mad. I think with that kind of job most templars end up killed by apostates/abominations before they are old enough to go crazy. Now compare it to the Grey Warden taint, and the taint totally wins in the Game of Angst. The biggest problem is what Cullen will have to deal with at the present moment, and that is getting lyrium. Our Inquisition will probably have it, because we'll need it for our mages, and surely we can spare some of it for Cullen and Cass? So yeah, that problem may be completely ignored by the game.

We may get the dialogue, like, "I will probably start losing my mind slowly after I turn 60. Will you still love me when I'm no longer young and beautiful?" And considering the possibility of the end of the world, my Inquisitor will totally say yes, and will think about the future when that future comes.

 

My biggest concern is that in Thedas you need to kill somebody to get married, did you notice that? You need to kill Loghain to marry Alistair, you need to kill Anders to marry Sebastian. If Cullen asks for somebody's head as a wedding gift, I will have to say no, because I don't like that tradition. I hope living in sin will still be an option

I think that lyrium affects ppl differently tho, like for example when you take medication , some ppl experience the side-effects and some ppl dont (well most ppl dont but yea)  like for example Samson he was a lil bit "nutty " for lyrium , and also Gregor never really got  cut off  from lyrium not sure if dementia  starts while taking the lyrium or if you stop taking it....

[Ispan]

The old templar outside the Denerim chantry, the templar who is out of his mind in the dungeons, and Samson (who seems desperate for more dust) are what make lyrium addiction seem like a serious issue to me.  I feel sad for the templars as individuals even though I tend to be pro-mage

[LolaLei]

You know, I kind of think lyrium dementia may be not that terrible. Look at Greagoir, for example, he's been running the Tower for so long that nobody can remember when it was somebody else, so he's really old, but still not mad. I think with that kind of job most templars end up killed by apostates/abominations before they are old enough to go crazy. Now compare it to the Grey Warden taint, and the taint totally wins in the Game of Angst. The biggest problem is what Cullen will have to deal with at the present moment, and that is getting lyrium. Our Inquisition will probably have it, because we'll need it for our mages, and surely we can spare some of it for Cullen and Cass? So yeah, that problem may be completely ignored by the game.

We may get the dialogue, like, "I will probably start losing my mind slowly after I turn 60. Will you still love me when I'm no longer young and beautiful?" And considering the possibility of the end of the world, my Inquisitor will totally say yes, and will think about the future when that future comes.

 

My biggest concern is that in Thedas you need to kill somebody to get married, did you notice that? You need to kill Loghain to marry Alistair, you need to kill Anders to marry Sebastian. If Cullen asks for somebody's head as a wedding gift, I will have to say no, because I don't like that tradition. I hope living in sin will still be an option

 

That's also true. I guess much like anything some people succumb to its side effects quicker than others. Either way we've all gotta die of something, right!

[Panda]

The old templar outside the Denerim chantry, the templar who is out of his mind in the dungeons, and Samson (who seems desperate for more dust) are what make lyrium addiction seem like a serious issue to me.  I feel sad for the templars as individuals even though I tend to be pro-mage

 

I don't know if there is way out of lyrium since lyrium withdrawal seems bad too. I wonder how long templar should be not using lyrium to get free from withdrawal symptoms..

[Galagraphia]

I think that lyrium affects ppl differently tho, like for example when you take medication , some ppl experience the side-effects and some ppl dont (well most ppl dont but yea)  like for example Samson he was a lil bit "nutty " for lyrium , and also Gregor never really got  cut off  from lyrium not sure if dementia  starts while taking the lyrium or if you stop taking it....

Yes, effects definitely vary. Also, the proximity to the Fade may be a thing. David Gaider said, and it was also mentioned in Asunder, that when the Veil is thin, you have more magic, so maybe when templar serves in places with thin Veil, they take less lyrium. And in Circles the Veil is thin, so maybe Greagoir was taking less lyrium most of his life, and that's why he's doing great. It may be the same with Cullen, because he mostly served in Circles.

Dementia developes after years of taking lyrium. it was stated in Origins. There was an old templar in Denerim, who was kind of adorably crazy. His partner said it's because he's been taking lyrium for many years. But that guy was really old. He didn't want to retire, if I remember right, and his comrades thought it would be cruel to make him, because his service is all he has in life, so they let him guard a place that doesn't really need guarding. 

[LolaLei]

Would take him anyway, given the option. 

 

Same, at least we'd get a few good years with him. Plus, he's still young so we'll be taking him on in his prime anyway!

[LolaLei]

Yes, effects definitely vary. Also, the proximity to the Fade may be a thing. David Gaider said, and it was also mentioned in Asunder, that when the Veil is thin, you have more magic, so maybe when templar serves in places with thin Veil, they take less lyrium. And in Circles the Veil is thin, so maybe Greagoir was taking less lyrium most of his life, and that's why he's doing great. It may be the same with Cullen, because he mostly served in Circles.

Dementia developes after years of taking lyrium. it was stated in Origins. There was an old templar in Denerim, who was kind of adorably crazy. His partner said it's because he's been taking lyrium for many years. But that guy was really old. He didn't want to retire, if I remember right, and his comrades thought it would be cruel to make him, because his service is all he has in life, so they let him gueard a place that doesn't really need guarding. 

 

I dunno why, but this reminds me of a NSFW fanfic I read once between Cullen and a female mage Hawke where he discovers that he can replace lyrium with regular sex with female mage Hawke because of all the magic coursing through her, LOL!

[Galagraphia]

I dunno why, but this reminds me of a NSFW fanfic I read once between Cullen and a female mage Hawke where he discovers that he can replace lyrium with regular sex with female mage Hawke because of all the magic coursing through her, LOL!

I totally love this idea!  *insert a personal brand of lyrium Twilight joke*

[Vaseldwa]

Cullen singing???? I am intrigued! I was watching an DAI update by "AbilityDrain" and she shows a tweet by cullens VA about Cullen singing! I am wondering is cullen singing part of his romance? singing at a funeral maybe or in a emotional moment during the game who knows!

 

She mentions this around the 13 min mark.

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=anItW4dvXkY

[LolaLei]

Cullen singing???? I am intrigued! I was watching an DAI update by "AbilityDrain" and she shows a tweet by cullens VA about Cullen singing! I am wondering is cullen singing part of his romance? singing at a funeral maybe or in a emotional moment during the game who knows!

 

She mentions this around the 13 min mark.

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=anItW4dvXkY

 

*Waves* that's me!

[Galagraphia]

Yes, Greg Ellis will sing, but nobody knows what, when and why. And I think we all are dying to know more about it, but nobody will tell us anything.

I suspect somebody's funeral too. Maybe we finally find that Cullen has a family? And one of them died, and he asks us for a leave to go to the funeral, and we can come along? Or maybe it's when the Big Boom happens, and lots of people die, and we must burn these dead, and Team Chantry does some singing, or bits of the Chant.

[LolaLei]

Yes, Greg Ellis will sing, but nobody knows what, when and why. And I think we all are dying to know more about it, but nobody will tell us anything.

I suspect somebody's funeral too. Maybe we finally find that Cullen has a family? And one of them died, and he asks us for a leave to go to the funeral, and we can come along? Or maybe it's when the Big Boom happens, and lots of people die, and we must burn these dead, and Team Chantry does some singing, or bits of the Chant.

 

Part of me hopes that he was being funny when he said "emotional, soulful, etc" because I kinda want to hear him drunkenly singing a crude song, LOL! But on the other hand Greg Ellis has a lovely voice and it would be a waste not to make use of it. I think being serenaded would be a little too cheesy for my liking, so my personal preference would be to hear him sing at (The Divine's) funeral... or maybe our Inquisitor's funeral if we choose to kill her/him off... not that I'd ever do that, but I'd watch it on YouTube, LOL! 

[ilikesocks]

You're famous, Lola! Hehe

[LolaLei]

You're famous, Lola! Hehe

 

LOL, it's always a strange feeling when my videos or YouTube handle pop up but it's not me that's put them there. I forget that people actually watch the sh!te I upload! 

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