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[Allan Schumacher]

All I said was, if Scribbles were to hit on Cullen, I would kick her in the face. I thought it was clear that I was joking, but it apparently wasn't. Two people were offended by that statement (this was in the married companions thread) mind you, I didn't just type what actual words I used, because I can't remember all the bits. Anyways, I was joking about it to Lola yesterday. I thought this is what Allan was talking about, hence why I apologized. I've never criticized someone who likes a certain character OR a character that someone else likes because why would I want to? I wouldn't want it done to me. Anyways. That's it. I'm not a bad person I just can't convey that I'm kidding properly, I guess. Fail on my part.

 

It's cool.  You're not a bad person.  People read things differently based on their experiences.  I find it awkward when groups often resort to "This person believes X? I hope I can kill them in my playthrough!"  Doubly so because I doublethink and worry if I close a thread down like that if I'm just abusing my power and being too sensitive to what is probably (hopefully?) just people being silly to the extreme and max.  It might have something to do with my own personal experiences surrounding death as well (my Aunt died yesterday, Grandma late last year.  Lost my brother when I was 13.  Stuff like that) leave me feeling a bit touchy about stuff like that.  But it's the type of post content that makes me feel uncomfortable, and I'm often second guessing whether or not I should chime in about it (and possibly face scrutiny/judgment about being too sensitive) or if I should just grin and bear it (at the cost of my own personal well being).

 

Human interaction is a tricky thing in my opinion.  Sometimes we'll make mistakes and things will be taken in a way we didn't mean.

[LolaLei]

It's cool.  You're not a bad person.  People read things differently based on their experiences.  I find it awkward when groups often resort to "This person believes X? I hope I can kill them in my playthrough!"  Doubly so because I doublethink and worry if I close a thread down like that if I'm just abusing my power and being too sensitive to what is probably (hopefully?) just people being silly to the extreme and max.  It might have something to do with my own personal experiences surrounding death as well (my Aunt died yesterday, Grandma late last year.  Lost my brother when I was 13.  Stuff like that) leave me feeling a bit touchy about stuff like that.  But it's the type of post content that makes me feel uncomfortable, and I'm often second guessing whether or not I should chime in about it (and possibly face scrutiny/judgment about being too sensitive) or if I should just grin and bear it (at the cost of my own personal well being).

 

Human interaction is a tricky thing in my opinion.  Sometimes we'll make mistakes and things will be taken in a way we didn't mean.

 

For what it's worth, I'm sorry for your loss.

 

It's certainly difficult to tell what's a joke and what's bullying/trolling/etc sometimes, especially when a group of fans or an individual is already sensitive to the topic at hand for whatever given reason. 

[LolaLei]

Hey, guys. We should just take any Off Topic stuff over to the chat that Obito set up. Talk about Cullen stuff here, and if we start to get OT, we can move to the chat and avoid getting this place all clogged up with nonsense and shut down.

 

http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/ Channel: #cullenites

I'm gonna hang out over there for a while. 

 

It's ok, we're just talking to the Allan about forum rules and stuff.

[MacyNell]

Wow that's a cool pic I don't think Ive seen that one before

 

Just found this yesterday.  Her Dragon Age poster designs are incredible.  I can't believe I'd never seen them before either...

[LolaLei]

Btw, what was the theme for the 1000 page celebration again? 

[Allan Schumacher]

For what it's worth, I'm sorry for your loss.

 

It's certainly difficult to tell what's a joke and what's bullying/trolling/etc sometimes, especially when a group of fans or an individual is already sensitive to the topic at hand for whatever given reason. 

 

Thanks.

 

And yeah for some, some topics will affect people in different ways.  When I was younger (growing up in rural community dominated by middle class white people) my sports teams would make gay jokes to each other and stuff like that (including myself...) and in MY mind I knew I wasn't being serious.  But when I grew up and had some people call me on it (to which I openly reacted defensively, naturally....), I realized "ehhhhhhhhhhh, maybe I should rethink whether this is something I should casually joke about."  And I can certainly see how even hearing me say something like that would simply reinforce "being gay is a topic of ridicule" even if that wasn't consciously obvious.  A lot of people never said anything.  They might have been bothered, or they might have realized I was joking.  But some people did speak up because to them they saw it as a problem and felt it'd be best if I understood why it was a problem, so they told me about it.

[Allan Schumacher]

Although looking back, I can understand how some people may have misinterpreted my first post.  When I said I was "looking back the last (several) pages" I didn't mean "There's several pages of bad stuff going on here!!!" but rather was intending on giving the context "I just read through the last several pages and ended up on a post that made me pause for a moment."

 

So on that part, I apologize because I think that caused some people to feel I was overstating how common things happened.  The only reason why I referenced the several pages was because it provided context for the fluid nature of the thread.

[Panda]

Btw, what was the theme for the 1000 page celebration again? 

 

Raunchy and/or singing I think?

[Abraham_uk]

Cullen seems like a likable character who shows a more sympathetic side to the Templars.

 

I don't know what to make of him though.

He has a few moments in Dragon Age Origins and takes a bigger role in Dragon Age 2.

 

That said I don't know much about Cullen.

What makes him tick?

What is his backstory?

Where did he come from?

etc...

[LolaLei]

Thanks.

 

And yeah for some, some topics will affect people in different ways.  When I was younger (growing up in rural community dominated by middle class white people) my sports teams would make gay jokes to each other and stuff like that (including myself...) and in MY mind I knew I wasn't being serious.  But when I grew up and had some people call me on it (to which I openly reacted defensively, naturally....), I realized "ehhhhhhhhhhh, maybe I should rethink whether this is something I should casually joke about."  And I can certainly see how even hearing me say something like that would simply reinforce "being gay is a topic of ridicule" even if that wasn't consciously obvious.  A lot of people never said anything.  They might have been bothered, or they might have realized I was joking.  But some people did speak up because to them they saw it as a problem and felt it'd be best if I understood why it was a problem, so they told me about it.

 

As the old saying goes "you live, you learn" (it's also the title of an Alanis Morissette song, lol). I have a habit of presuming everyone is aware that I'm joking or that they understand my humour/feelings/whatever, I'd forget (sometimes still do) that people aren't mind readers which is where I used to get myself into trouble a lot. 

[LolaLei]

Cullen seems like a likable character who shows a more sympathetic side to the Templars.

 

I don't know what to make of him though.

He has a few moments in Dragon Age Origins and takes a bigger role in Dragon Age 2.

 

That said I don't know much about Cullen.

What makes him tick?

What is his backstory?

Where did he come from?

etc...

 Where did he go, where did he come from Cotton-Eye Joe!

 

Sorrynotsorry!

[LolaLei]

Yeah, I know. Just seems that so many people are taking what Allan said the wrong way and posting here. We need to keep that stuff confined to the chat. Wouldn't wanna get this thread shut down because we got too crazy here.

 

Stuff like this is important, we need to talk it through in order to not repeat the same mistakes. It's really only general off topic chatter when gets carried away that we need to be concerned about.

[LolaLei]

Cullen seems like a likable character who shows a more sympathetic side to the Templars.

 

I don't know what to make of him though.

He has a few moments in Dragon Age Origins and takes a bigger role in Dragon Age 2.

 

That said I don't know much about Cullen.

What makes him tick?

What is his backstory?

Where did he come from?

etc...

 

Ok, I'll answer your question seriously now, lol.

 

Truth be told we don't really know where he came from, even in DA2 he says he served in Ferelden but never directly said that he was born and bred there (despite the accent). His backstory beyond what we saw in DA:O with his torture (and potentially crushing on the female mage Warden) and then his subsequent experiences in Kirkwall is really all we know about him... I guess that's what makes him interesting because we'd like to find out more.

[WonderNubs23]

It's cool.  You're not a bad person.  People read things differently based on their experiences.  I find it awkward when groups often resort to "This person believes X? I hope I can kill them in my playthrough!"  Doubly so because I doublethink and worry if I close a thread down like that if I'm just abusing my power and being too sensitive to what is probably (hopefully?) just people being silly to the extreme and max.  It might have something to do with my own personal experiences surrounding death as well (my Aunt died yesterday, Grandma late last year.  Lost my brother when I was 13.  Stuff like that) leave me feeling a bit touchy about stuff like that.  But it's the type of post content that makes me feel uncomfortable, and I'm often second guessing whether or not I should chime in about it (and possibly face scrutiny/judgment about being too sensitive) or if I should just grin and bear it (at the cost of my own personal well being).
 
Human interaction is a tricky thing in my opinion.  Sometimes we'll make mistakes and things will be taken in a way we didn't mean.

I'm still a bit of a lurker because I'm worried about how I might come off. I'm often sarcastic and joke around a lot, it doesn't convey well through text. At least, not without a bunch of smileys, but then I worry about it coming off as d*@kish instead of just being good humored as intended... Without context or familiarity with people, it can be a bit tricky.

I agree with your assessment of the posts about wanting to off characters. I've seen some and it makes me wonder if I'm the odd case for not wanting to take the violent route. Everyone's all, "So-and-so is different/scary/a jerk; I'm gonna murder-knife them!", and I'm over here like, "Rehab, man...".

I'm sorry for your losses and your Aunt. May they be at peace.

[MacyNell]

LOL yea... I don't mean to be ungrateful, they have been giving us quite a bit of info considering  the game has 5-6 more months to go, and specially now they are more busy then ever to get it done... I guess I just want a better pic of Cullen that's all... that's not asking for too much is it?

 

I hear ya.  Basically, I'm dying to see some high res shots of Cullen like they did for Viv earlier.  I could possibly spend days just looking at that.  Yep.  Days.  At least.  

[MacyNell]

Cullen seems like a likable character who shows a more sympathetic side to the Templars.

 

I don't know what to make of him though.

He has a few moments in Dragon Age Origins and takes a bigger role in Dragon Age 2.

 

That said I don't know much about Cullen.

What makes him tick?

What is his backstory?

Where did he come from?

etc...

 

 

Ok, I'll answer your question seriously now, lol.

 

Truth be told we don't really know where he came from, even in DA2 he says he served in Ferelden but never directly said that he was born and bred there (despite the accent). His backstory beyond what we saw in DA:O with his torture (and potentially crushing on the female mage Warden) and then his subsequent experiences in Kirkwall is really all we know about him... I guess that's what makes him interesting because we'd like to find out more.

 

I think in many ways, this very issue is at least in part what brought each of us here.  We've speculated on practically every possible answer to those questions and then some, which I think has only made our need to know stronger.  Frankly, I'm down right giddy at the thought that IT SURE AS HECK WON'T BE LONG NOW!!!     

 

Have a Cullen:

 

 

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[Kirrahe1]

Although looking back, I can understand how some people may have misinterpreted my first post. When I said I was "looking back the last (several) pages" I didn't mean "There's several pages of bad stuff going on here!!!" but rather was intending on giving the context "I just read through the last several pages and ended up on a post that made me pause for a moment."

So on that part, I apologize because I think that caused some people to feel I was overstating how common things happened. The only reason why I referenced the several pages was because it provided context for the fluid nature of the thread.

Well first off thank you for clarifying, I really appreciate it. A lot of us really love this thread as well as the older Cullen thread and I think some of us just want to make sure it doesn't get shut down over a misunderstanding! Or you know, at all!

That being said, I'm extremely sorry for your loss. Dealing with grief is very challenging and every new loss can still hurt terribly. So I absolutely wish the very best for you and your family.

I hope this isn't me stepping out of bounds but I got into a very confusing discussion/argument with a group of people online right after I lost someone and later I always felt bad about it and regretted it. So I completely get saying something and others not understanding what I meant when I was upset....Or just tired! Anyway I just wanted to let you know that I really do appreciate your explaining your comment to us because I'm sure other things are occupying your mind right now. I can only speak for myself but I'm not upset with your comment or at you or anything similar.

Last thing I swear! Thanks for apologizing to socks -she's an absolutely wonderful and amazing person and I'd be seriously bummed out all day if she felt guilty or picked on.

[ilikesocks]

Where did he go, where did he come from Cotton-Eye Joe!

Sorrynotsorry!

I'll have that song in my head all morning now, so thanks for that.

@Allan - truly sorry to hear about your aunt. I've seen your posts in other threads, namely romance discussion, and how you talked through a whole bunch of things with people, trying to help. I appreciate that and even told you so once. Thank you for your clarification on this matter and believe me, I'll be more careful from now on. Dragon Age is the first series that I've played where I felt inclined to talk to other people about how awesome it is, so I'm a little new to the forum setting

[LolaLei]

I think in many ways, this very issue is at least in part what brought each of us here.  We've speculated on practically every possible answer to those questions and then some, which I think has only made our need to know stronger.  Frankly, I'm down right giddy at the thought that IT SURE AS HECK WON'T BE LONG NOW!!!     

 

Definitely! I think we're at the stage now we're it's just a case of waiting to find out which one of our theories was correct, if at all. 

[ilikesocks]

Awww Kirrahe!
I love you guysssss

[Kirrahe1]

Definitely! I think we're at the stage now we're it's just a case of waiting to find out which one of our theories was correct, if at all.

You've gotten a lot of theories right so far... If we took bets I'd bother you until you told me all your suspicions! What? I'd split the money with you- it's only recreational gambling I swear!