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[MassivelyEffective0730]

Secondly, I wonder if I was the only one that caught that the Leviathan's power was clearly the precursor to the technology in Destroy. And thus not an EMP. Just goes to show how important presentation is. Everybody, including myself, has issues with Destroy somehow differentiating between Synthetics and regular electronics, but nobody's so much as brought up the Leviathans doing the same thing with their pulses.

 

Erich von Däniken was also the first person who saw that the pyramids of the Egyptians, Mayans, and Guineans, the Nazca drawings, and the stones of Pumapunku were clearly created with or directly by ancient aliens.

 

See what kinds of conspirational theories the mind unbalanced can come up with people!

[Bob from Accounting]

It's really very obvious. A pulse that selectively disables some electronics but not others? That originates from technology of the same species?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

It's really very obvious. A pulse that selectively disables some electronics but not others? That originates from technology of the same species?

 

So you know where the Crucible comes from then?

 

 

Sure thing David von Däniken. Conspirational know-it-allism is it.

[Bob from Accounting]

The technology is a part of the Citadel, not the Crucible.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

The technology is a part of the Citadel, not the Crucible.

 

And it isn't used as such unless the Crucible (a distinctly alien device) is in place. 

 

Just because a PC can run OSX doesn't mean that it was built by Apple.

[KaiserShep]

Shepard: I think we'd rather keep our own form.
 
Catalyst: No. You can't.

This was the line, the catalyst if you will, that made destroy the one and only ending for me.

[von uber]

It's really very obvious. A pulse that selectively disables some electronics but not others? That originates from technology of the same species?

Which electronics did it selectively disable?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Which electronics did it selectively disable?

 

Whichever ones make a convenient argument for him.

[KaiserShep]

It knocked out the reaper without knocking out the shuttle, and was apparently capable of assuming control of the reaper monsters.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

It knocked out the reaper without knocking out the shuttle, and was apparently capable of assuming control of the reaper monsters.

 

I'd say that's more of an ability of the Leviathans to distinguish targets, as well as the fact that Shepard had to get repair parts for Cortez to fix the shuttle in the first place. I doubt that it was in meant to symbolize destroy.

[KaiserShep]

I don't really care much about the symbolism, but it's clearly capable of stopping one machine while ignoring the other right next to it.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I don't really care much about the symbolism, but it's clearly capable of stopping one machine while ignoring the other right next to it.

 

And I'm saying it's probably a controlled ability of the Leviathans.

[Bob from Accounting]

Which electronics did it selectively disable?

 

The ones allowing flight for the shuttle. And communications, I believe.

[von uber]

Even though the shuttle was disabled and had to be repaired?

[Bob from Accounting]

Hmm. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the unpowered landing with several heavy collisions, could it?

[themikefest]

I wonder if Leviathan can take down more than one reaper at a time?

[von uber]

Hmm. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the unpowered landing with several heavy collisions, could it?

Hmmm. Would that be the unpowered landing caused by the leviathan pulse which knocked out the shuttles flight capabilities?

Edit: hang on are you saying they can selectively target systems or they can't?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Hmmm. Would that be the unpowered landing caused by the leviathan pulse which knocked out the shuttles flight capabilities?

 

Or the search for power cells to be used on the shuttle since the ones already being used were overloaded by the energy pulse that caused said unpowered landing? David's grasping now.

[Bob from Accounting]

Hmmm. Would that be the unpowered landing caused by the leviathan pulse which knocked out the shuttles flight capabilities?

 

Yes. The flight electronics. Exactly right. Are we on the same page now?

 

I'm saying they can...

[von uber]

Yes. The flight electronics. Exactly right. Are we on the same page now?

I'm saying they can...

Right, fair enough. Seems likely to me, wouldn't be that difficult to achieve.

[Bob from Accounting]

It would be to selectively target the flight electronics and leave other electronics intact. With a wide-area pulse and not a precision weapon anyway.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Should I even point out the laughably childish foolishness of this 'argument'? How utterly clumsy and pathetic it is?

 

Ask yourself the same question.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

It would be to selectively target the flight electronics and leave other electronics intact. With a wide-area pulse and not a precision weapon anyway.

 

It's not targeting the flight electronics. They'd have been fried in the pulse if it was targeting them, and that's not something you're just going to be able to fix with a few spare parts, especially not in a few minutes. If I had to make an educated claim, I'd say that it was targeting the drive core (the power source). Which explains why Cortez needs a few minutes to change the power feed system, and why you have to find energy cells for the drive core on the ship. As for communications, it's not hard to imagine that the Leviathan's are jamming communications. It's not too difficult: We've been able to do it since the 50's. 

[Kabooooom]

Yeah, I thought it was apparent that the power source for the kodiac was drained of energy- the electronics worked fine, all you did was just recharge the batteries basically.

But it would be really interesting of David's hypothesis was correct, as it would imply that the Leviathans supplied the blueprints for the Crucible tech. Which would explain why they were so damn sketch when Shep asked about it - "err, uh, yeah we'd tell you who built the Crucible but like, yeah, we've got something we gotta do bro".

But unfortunately I don't think the in-game evidence supports that. Too bad, cause it would have made a lot of sense.

[CosmicGnosis]

Well, this thread certainly deviated down an unexpected path. Anyway, this was simply another attempt to frame the endings in a way that justified BioWare's presentation of the endings, with Destroy being the worst and Synthesis being the best. Rather than debating whether the literal result of Synthesis is an atrocity, I chose to emphasize the philosophical aspect of it instead.