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The Official Josephine Montilyet aka 'Scribbles' Thread - The Disney Princess of Dragon Age!


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Hizoku

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How so please elaborate when did it start just a quick summary please.

i think it started with people being upset about not getting any info on Scribbles and Schumacher assumed that they were just kidding around about being that frustrated (i think most were, joking around that is..but with a dash of actual dissapointment) and joked about it which then led people to think he was being a dick about it?

...not too sure myself since i didn't really notice anything like that happening.



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How so please elaborate when did it start just a quick summary please.

 

Well, I wasn't here during the frantic anticipation of Scribbles's expected reveal today, so I'm not the best person to ask for a rundown.

 

But the tension has to do with that.

 

I just wanted to twerk and to know if Scribbles is FAB. *Shrugs*



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You misunderstood me, I was asking, that, if the marketing isn't ready to show something, why don't they tell the fans before ? It's not like David Hulegaard doesn't talk to fans at all; he did shot down Scribbles reveal, but after everyone waited for 4 hours.

 

I can't speak for David, but I didn't know myself, and I guess my inexperience is that I thought that it's something that the fan base would have fun with and didn't realize people were actually getting genuinely upset.  So I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment that I misunderstood you.

 

I mean, you're literally asking for us to tell fans not to expect something that we never told them to expect.

 

In conjunction with what David Gaider said, it's possible that they didn't realize that they weren't going to reveal today until much, much later in the day.

 

 

 

 

Well, there really wasn't much frustration during the event per se, more giddy expectation. It only turned into frustration when it turned out it wasn't going to happen at all. Some fans were massively disappointed and felt like if Bioware knew they weren't going to reveal her today, they could have said something so that people weren't refreshing the Dragon Age website every 5 seconds for a few hours.

 

This requires us seeing people shift from happy to angry, and as you say during the event people were waiting for news with enthusiasm - that doesn't convey the image to me that they are mandating that they better get news or they're going to be angry with us.  So no, I wasn't expecting people to be actually mad, for the reasons I detailed above.  And as stated, in makes the assumption that we knew in the morning that she wouldn't be revealed and it also makes the assumption that David's post didn't come shortly after they knew, either.


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I can't speak for David, but I didn't know myself, and I guess my inexperience is that I thought that it's something that the fan base would have fun with and didn't realize people were actually getting genuinely upset.  So I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment that I misunderstood you.

 

I mean, you're literally asking for us to tell fans not to expect something that we never told them to expect.

 

In conjunction with what David Gaider said, it's possible that they didn't realize that they weren't going to reveal today until much, much later in the day.

 

 

 

 

 

This requires us seeing people shift from happy to angry, and as you say during the event people were waiting for news with enthusiasm - that doesn't convey the image to me that they are mandating that they better get news or they're going to be angry with us.  So no, I wasn't expecting people to be actually mad, for the reasons I detailed above.  And as stated, in makes the assumption that we knew in the morning that she wouldn't be revealed and it also makes the assumption that David's post didn't come shortly after they knew, either.

 

Well, this is BSN, or it's new incarnation. You have to expect some people to get mad Allan. About anything really. Lol  

 

To be fair, though, people who are very interested in Scribbles have had to wait longer than everyone else to get any bit of info on their fav character. Cullen and Leliana were revealed pretty much back to back, so lot's of Scribbles's most ardent fans were truly hoping/expecting to get something *anything* really, since we know absolutely positively *nothing* about her as opposed to everyone else, who we knew at least something about whether due to previous games or the survey leak. 

 

The fact that we know nothing and still know nothing.... and then not getting a reveal when both Cullen and Leliana were revealed so soon after each other has led to disappointment and even frustration.

 

Plus the whole Follower Friday thing is still in the back of people's minds- with the whole not telling people to not wait around and get their hopes up for nothing.


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Well, I wasn't here during the frantic anticipation of Scribbles's expected reveal today, so I'm not the best person to ask for a rundown.

But the tension has to do with that.

I just wanted to twerk and to know if Scribbles is FAB. *Shrugs*

lol I'll twerk with you when we find out who she is
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lol I'll twerk with you when we find out who she is

 

AWWWWW YEAH AWWW YEAH!


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AWWWWW YEAH AWWW YEAH!

Turn uppp when we get the newwws:)
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Transgender is can be broken down in many ways. You have the those who believe they were born the wrong gender or have no gender. Then, there are transvestites (cross dressers). And then, you the rarely talk third gender, the hermaphrodite. It is really just a big word used to explain people who do not fall in the male or female box.   

Why can't sexuality just be simple....


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Well, this is BSN, or it's new incarnation. You have to expect some people to get mad Allan. About anything really. Lol

 

I will always hope for it to not happen, however.  There's no reason it has to happen.

 

 

Plus the whole Follower Friday thing is still in the back of people's minds- with the whole not telling people to not wait around and get their hopes up for nothing.

 

Which is probably why nothing was promised or mentioned in the slightest until they knew for certain.


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I don't think BioWare did anything wrong here. People wound themselves up because they were sure they were going to get a reveal, but no one said that was going to happen today.
 

Why can't sexuality just be simple....


I prefer interesting.
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I will always hope for it to not happen, however.  There's no reason it has to happen.

 

 

 

 

 

Which is probably why nothing was promised or mentioned in the slightest until they knew for certain.

 

I guess some people wanted a..... I don't know, a first-thing-in-the-morning-we-aren't-revealing-Scribbles-today-Tweet  or something.  

 

As bizarre as that may sound.  

 

I'm just saying that some people are going to get frustrated and even angry. Dev sassiness, which I think is FABULOUS, may only worsen things for others.



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I can't speak for David, but I didn't know myself, and I guess my inexperience is that I thought that it's something that the fan base would have fun with and didn't realize people were actually getting genuinely upset.  So I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment that I misunderstood you.

 

I mean, you're literally asking for us to tell fans not to expect something that we never told them to expect.

 

In conjunction with what David Gaider said, it's possible that they didn't realize that they weren't going to reveal today until much, much later in the day.

 

 

This requires us seeing people shift from happy to angry, and as you say during the event people were waiting for news with enthusiasm - that doesn't convey the image to me that they are mandating that they better get news or they're going to be angry with us.  So no, I wasn't expecting people to be actually mad, for the reasons I detailed above.  And as stated, in makes the assumption that we knew in the morning that she wouldn't be revealed and it also makes the assumption that David's post didn't come shortly after they knew, either.

 

 

I'm trying to figure out the right way to respond to this.

 

Have you ever stood in line for tickets to something for a few hours only for it to be sold out? Or waited in line for a ride that was broken when you finally got to the front? Possibly a ride that your kid was looking forward to? I'm just trying to find an example of a wait for something that never materializes. Generally, you can have a good time and be in high spirits while waiting- especially when you've got a fun group of people around. And also when it starts to look like the wait is over- when you can see roller coaster pull into the station. The wait for many people interested in Scribbles didn't begin today after all. It started when she was confirmed as being in the game back in March.

 

But no matter how enjoyable the wait may be, if turns out to be for nothing, you inevitably feel disappointed, like you wasted your time. Sometimes that's unavoidable, but in other situations, it feels like someone could have given you more info.

 

As far as "you're literally asking for us to tell fans not to expect something that we never told them to expect"... Really? No one had any reason to think she would be revealed today? Everyone who came to that conclusion did so with no basis in fact, pulled from some dark nether world of mass delusion? Come on. People figured she'd show up today because of pattern recognition, and while you may not have specifically said "it's going to happen today," you didn't exactly discourage the excitement that was building.

 

And yes, maybe something happened at the last minute. We don't know, and you haven't told us one way or the other. In my own experience with customers, the explanations people come up with themselves tend to be far less charitable than their acceptance of a provided explanation tends to be. As a result, I was trained to provide those explanations, since explaining what happened costs my company nothing.

 

Anyway, as always, thanks for taking the time to talk with us. :)


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My butt stopped hurting about the lack of Scribbles reveal a few hours ago v:


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Which is probably why nothing was promised or mentioned in the slightest until they knew for certain.

 

Which was really the wrong lesson to take from it, IMO. The issue with Follower Friday was not that your plans changed, but that you didn't tell people when they did. And then Bioware reps seemed to get annoyed at the fans when they pointed out the schedule hadn't been followed.

 

Fast forward to today, and official notice or no official notice, basically the same thing happens. The issue seems to be the management, or interaction with the fans at the time they've been led (by explicit or implicit reasoning) to expect a reveal of some sort. Maybe more direct interaction combined with a positive but cautious statement of solidarity at the beginning of the "wait period" here in this topic? "Well, like Gaider said on Friday, we weren't quite ready to reveal her yet. Honestly, we still have some work to do on her, but we're going to try really hard to get her out the door today."

 

Then, if it doesn't happen, you come back to the topic and say something along the lines of "Sorry, guys. It doesn't look like it's gonna happen today." Those two posts seem small, but you might be surprised at how effective that sort of thing can be in softening blowback.

 

Can I just say I really don't want you to get the impression that I'm saying this to be mean or trolly or anything? I'm posting this because it kills me when a company with as much love and respect as Bioware has with its fans, and who work as hard as the people at Bioware do to put out a quality product, get blindsided by customer interaction/management issues.

 

I will always hope for it to not happen, however.  There's no reason it has to happen.

 

 

Well, that's definitely the right attitude to take, IMO. :)

 

I guess the bottom line in this instance is whether you think the fans are being unfair to the developers. From where I'm sitting, I don't think so, but I imagine it might look different from your seat.


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Well, this place got interesting after I logged off for a bit. 

 

On the "Is Scribbles a transexual?" topic, I hope not. Nothing against transexuals, but I just prefer she be a female in a female's body. 



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Why would Scribbles just randomly be transexual? 



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Why would Scribbles just randomly be transexual? 

I don't know. Someone earlier just posted it as a hypothetical question. 



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Why would Scribbles just randomly be transexual?


Why would Sera be randomly gay?

Why would the Iron Bull randomly be a qunari?

Because that's how the writers wrote them.
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Why would Scribbles just randomly be transexual?

 
Ah, but perhaps the real question is, why wouldn't she be?
 

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Why can't sexuality just be simple....

Nothing about life ever is, especially when it comes to us mere mortals. :P

 

I've also just shrugged and moved on with the lack of a Scribbles reveal.   I have a good feeling about the next couple of weeks, and I got a good reminder today to curb my expectations if there isn't any confirmation.  

 

 

Well, this place got interesting after I logged off for a bit. 

 

On the "Is Scribbles a transexual?" topic, I hope not. Nothing against transexuals, but I just prefer she be a female in a female's body. 

Welcome back.  ;)



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Nothing about life ever is, especially when it comes to us mere mortals. :P

 

I've also just shrugged and moved on with the lack of a Scribbles reveal.   I have a good feeling about the next couple of weeks, and I got a good reminder today to curb my expectations if there isn't any confirmation.  

 

 

Welcome back.   ;)

 

The optimistic part of me is saying "Don't worry. It'll be on Wednesday.". The pessimistic side is saying "Be quiet, you. That's what you said about Monday."

 

Thanks. :)



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And I thought I would sleep and wake up with a Scribbles Reveal. Ah, well... back to usual it is then.



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At least today wasn't a total waste. This thread has overtaken half the followers' threads and are close to the others(not counting Cullen of course). 

 

And most important, we all had fun. Got depressed when no news was confirmed, but other than that fun.  


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Why would Sera be randomly gay?

Why would the Iron Bull randomly be a qunari?

Because that's how the writers wrote them.

Well excuuuuuse me princess :v

But yeah, you're right :L



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At least today wasn't a total waste. This thread has overtaken half the followers' threads and are close to the others(not counting Cullen of course). 

 

And most important, we all had fun. Got depressed when no news was confirmed, but other than that fun.  

Been a new member of the forums, seeing that Cullen thread was absolutely terrifying and incredibly confusing.

Mainly sexually.