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[Lukas Trevelyan]

i'm Polish people , her name is easy if you had seen mine . Ha ! that one is a tongue twister and a half

The couple of polish people I used to know had pretty easy names though  

I think German has the most tongue twisting names and words lol.

[Basement Cat]

The couple of polish people I used to know had pretty easy names though  

I think German has the most tongue twisting names and words lol.

For me that would be Russian. The difference in the alphabet kills me.

[A.Kazama]

Ze German language iz de Wunderbar

[Basement Cat]

Isn't Cassandra from the Thedas equivalent of Germany? We have so many exotic accents around us this time around.

[Milan92]

Isn't Cassandra from the Thedas equivalent of Germany? We have so many exotic accents around us this time around.

 

The Anderfels is supposed to be the "german" part of Thedas. Nevarra is more loosly based on Prussia.

[Basement Cat]

The Anderfels is supposed to be the "german" part of Thedas. Nevarra is more based on Prussia.

Prussia? Mmh...Got reading to do.

[Das Tentakel]

I find her name to be a bit off for an Antivan. When I first saw it the impression I was given before reading the rest of the interview would that she would be orlesian 

 

It's probably a (deliberate?) deformation of French 'Montillet'. Creating a fantasy name out of a fairly ordinary name by adding/subtracting/changing just a single letter is a time-honoured practice in fantasy.

 

Anyway, if anybody is worried by the occurrence of 'Orlesian' names in Antiva, well, people do move around, and two groups that are historically pretty 'mobile' are nobles and traders. A lot of European aristocratic or merchant families had roots in other countries / regions.

[Basement Cat]

Anyway, if anybody is worried by the occurrence of 'Orlesian' names in Antiva, well, people do move around, and two groups that are historically pretty 'mobile' are nobles and traders. A lot of European aristocratic or merchant families had roots in other countries / regions.

True that. We get the same here in Canada with French and English names. It can cause a few surprises along the way. In any case her name is puurrty!

 

And your avatar is awesome! Bunny Cthulhu!

[Das Tentakel]

Prussia? Mmh...Got reading to do.

 

I wouldn't put too much stock in the various obscure quotes of BioWare devs (mainly Gaider but also others) because very often they did not mean this literally, or they have changed their minds in the meantime.

Anderfels was originally obviously loosely German, in the sense that the country and some of the placenames are German-sounding (one place, Nordbotten, is actually Swedish / Finno-Swedish). However, other placenames and personal names are either English or plain old Generic Fantasian. In terms of landscape, climate etc. Anderfels appears to be very un-German.

Nevarra as Prussia seems to have been an analogy - Nevarra as a rising militaristic power in the same sense as Prussia in the 18th / 19th century.

The Nevarran accent itself is kind of mysterious - some people (including at least one veteran German videogame journalist) thought Cassandra's accent in DA2 was French, while some BSN members thought it sounded German. The gods know what kind of accent the (English) voice actress was trying to emulate...

[Basement Cat]

I wouldn't put too much stock in the various obscure quotes of BioWare devs (mainly Gaider but also others) because very often they did not mean this literally, or they have changed their minds in the meantime.

Anderfels was originally obviously loosely German, in the sense that the country and some of the placenames are German-sounding (one place, Nordbotten, is actually Swedish / Finno-Swedish). However, other placenames and personal names are either English or plain old Generic Fantasian. In terms of landscape, climate etc. Anderfels appears to be very un-German.

Nevarra as Prussia seems to have been an analogy - Nevarra as a rising militaristic power in the same sense as Prussia in the 18th / 19th century.

The Nevarran accent itself is kind of mysterious - some people (including at least one veteran German videogame journalist) thought Cassandra's accent in DA2 was French, while some BSN members thought it sounded German. The gods know what kind of accent the (English) voice actress was trying to emulate...

Even more interesting is the fact that Prussia was a German kingdom... I think the voice actress said that she mixed three accents together. Cassandra doesn't sound French to me. There's definitely a germanic accent in there.

[Milan92]

I think Cassandra's accent is a mix between German and Russian.

[Basement Cat]

I think Cassandra's accent is a mix between German and Russian.

There is a hint of Russian in there...

 

I wonder what kind of accent Josie will have. Italian would make the most sense, but if we take Zevran who a Spanish accent... I prefer Italian myself, but that might be Assassin's Creed 2's influence.

[Milan92]

There is a hint of Russian in there...

 

I wonder what kind of accent Josie will have. Italian would make the most sense, but if we take Zevran who a Spanish accent... I prefer Italian myself, but that might be Assassin's Creed 2's influence.

 

As Lenimph pointed out earlier, I think the VA who voiced Caterina Sforza in Assassins Creed would probably be a nice choice.

[Allazor]

My surname has a russian root, because as i was told by my grandmother my great grandparents spoke russian, belonged to the orthodox church and were painfully middle - class. They just made their name sound more polish as status thing. Yea i'm pretty much eastern Europe in one person, i can claim russian, polish and ukrainian ancestry and my own mother thinks my eye shape is pretty central-asian so that is it.

I speak English with a british accent because i was taught that way since i was 7 years old, so Our Josie can sound as she likes for me , they should explain just why she sounds that way.

On the other hand i can see that in games as a historical bases for many fictional nations, most developers use western european, scandinavian or middle eastern countries, Eastern Europe i rarely touched upon or at least is not presented in way that a person like myself that lives there and is pretty much in the know about it's  tumultuous history can get that feel form the game. I don't know what the reason is ? Is it to alien or difficult to sell to the consumer or maybe the lage masses wouldn't relate perestend fictional country to the Eastern Europe . The Biggest players in this region of the world were the Polish- Lithuanian Commonwealth and The Imperial Russia. So if anybody ever makes a fictional setting or a fictional country and say they based  it on Eastern Europe , please consult my humble person so i can tell how much they got right .

RANT OVER , by the Fade i have to make some tea and eat my stinking cheese 

[k3ttch]

The Anderfels is supposed to be the "german" part of Thedas. Nevarra is more loosly based on Prussia.

 

Prussia. So Germany. 

[Das Tentakel]

As Lenimph pointed out earlier, I think the VA who voiced Caterina Sforza in Assassins Creed would probably be a nice choice.

 
Well, Cristina Rosato is Canadian and grew up with three languages (Italian, French, English), so it's perhaps rather convenient as well.
 
I did run into a certain Carole Montillet by the way, a famous French alpine skier, who participated several times in the ski world cups in Lake Louise, Alberta.
Maybe there's a skiing fan over at Bio? 
 

Prussia. So Germany.

 

Again, if I remember correctly, it was only 'Prussia' as a political/military analogy, not a cultural/linguistic one. 

Historical Prussia itself was culturally and linguistically something of a mess, actually, having been formed out of a diverse, fragmented set of territories across what is now northern Germany and northern Poland. Most of the people in the core territories spoke Low German (a language somewhat intermediate between Dutch and High German), in other regions High German and Dutch dialects as well as Polish in some of the eastern regions.

So you could run into Polish-speaking Prussians as well as High German or Dutch-speaking ones. 

Of course, in modern times, things got more homogenized. Losing two world wars, large-scale ethnic cleansing and the fading away of regional languages / dialects will do that for you 

[Feybrad]

Prussia. So Germany. 

 

If we're talking about Germany Analogues here, then Nevarra, Anderfels and the free Marches could all count. The free Marches are analoguous to all the little Germanies, meaning the Clusterfuck of medium to small sized States in medieval Germany. Nevarra can be better compared to Austria-Hungary with their family Dynasties and stuff. Anderfels is rightly identified as an Analogue to Prussia, as a miliaristic State.

[Milan92]

Prussia. So Germany. 

 

Yes and no. Don't ever call someone who lives in Prussia, a german

[Basement Cat]

Yes and no. Don't ever call someone who lives in Prussia, a german

Ah! It's the same deal with the Catalans. Don't ever call them Spaniards. Or at least have a ten foot brick wall between you and them when you do. Some people here in Quebec don't like to be called Canadians either.

[Dr. Doctor]

I don't know if they'll still have gifts in Inquisition, but the passing reference to Josephine missing the view of the sea from her room in Antiva makes me wonder if we'll come across a painting for her?

[Basement Cat]

I don't know if they'll still have gifts in Inquisition, but the passing reference to Josephine missing the view of the sea from her room in Antiva makes me wonder if we'll come across a painting for her?

I certainly hope they kept gifts in the game! And yes, a painting for Josephine would great! I'd like to get her a fancy inkwell and pen myself.

[Das Tentakel]

Yes and no. Don't ever call someone who lives in Prussia, a german

 

Slight correction: Do not call a random German a Prussian, especially not when he or she is Bavarian...

Administratively, Prussia no longer exists, but people from what is left of the core territories - basically Berlin and Brandenburg - might not take offence at being called 'Prussian'.

Though to be honest, never tried it out on Berliner friends and acquaintances...

[Amaror]

Yes and no. Don't ever call someone who lives in Prussia, a german

 

Why would they be offended? They do live in Germany. I live in Germany and been in those areas and the people take no offense to being called German. 

Of course you shouldn't call a person that lives in former Prussia in Poland german, but that would most likely be offensive as a reference to WW2 and would have nothing to do with Prussia.

[Milan92]

Maybe not all, but I know some people do.

[Allazor]

Slight correction: Do not call a random German a Prussian, especially not when he or she is Bavarian...

Administratively, Prussia no longer exists, but people from what is left of the core territories - basically Berlin and Brandenburg - might not take offence at being called 'Prussian'.

Though to be honest, never tried it out on Berliner friends and acquaintances...

 

That is because the Prussians were in majority lutherans and calvinists from the north of Germany. the south of Germany including Bavaria is to this day mostly catholic. So that is way they may take offence, in Europe history and heritage of the land you live in is intervened with the modern times and it present inhabitants. That is why when you ask a Bavarian how they identify themselves , They will say : Bavarian , then German, but not Prussian. Their ancestors hated the prussians and were in their direct opposition for whole centuries, so don't do that , ask first because you might get hit in the face for that.

The same goes for Poles that live in the lands that before WW2 belonged to Germany, I'm one of them , i was born here and my parents were also but my grandparents weren't, they came here after the war and started a new life. I live in small beautiful town in valley , surrounded by fields and woods this place is my home as it was to everyone that lived there before me. German or Polish both have the right to call those places home, the borders change but memories last for ever.