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[Gannayev of Dreams]

Does anyone really go around referring to people as their nationality?  I prefer names.

[Maria Caliban]

I bet you would, Frenchie.

[Basement Cat]

Does anyone really go around referring to people as their nationality?  I prefer names.

Well, when introducing a foreign friend or colleague, wouldn't you say where they are from? It's part of the basic details that could come up during an introduction.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

 

My surname has a russian root, because as i was told by my grandmother my great grandparents spoke russian, belonged to the orthodox church and were painfully middle - class. They just made their name sound more polish as status thing. Yea i'm pretty much eastern Europe in one person, i can claim russian, polish and ukrainian ancestry and my own mother thinks my eye shape is pretty central-asian so that is it.

I speak English with a british accent because i was taught that way since i was 7 years old, so Our Josie can sound as she likes for me , they should explain just why she sounds that way.

On the other hand i can see that in games as a historical bases for many fictional nations, most developers use western european, scandinavian or middle eastern countries, Eastern Europe i rarely touched upon or at least is not presented in way that a person like myself that lives there and is pretty much in the know about it's  tumultuous history can get that feel form the game. I don't know what the reason is ? Is it to alien or difficult to sell to the consumer or maybe the lage masses wouldn't relate perestend fictional country to the Eastern Europe . The Biggest players in this region of the world were the Polish- Lithuanian Commonwealth and The Imperial Russia. So if anybody ever makes a fictional setting or a fictional country and say they based on Eastern Europe , please consult my humble person so i can tell how much they got right .

RANT OVER , by the Fade i have to make some tea and eat my stinking cheese 

 

Speaking of cheese I had a dream the other night Josie was throwing cheese on Leliana on a dining table because of a disagreement. I blame you.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

I bet you would, Frenchie.

 

I'm American, of British/Prussian descent.

 

Well, when introducing a foreign friend or colleague, wouldn't you say where they are from? It's part of the basic details that could come up during an introduction.

 

Those details certainly do come out, but when I was at an international school in China it was never something brought up in introductions.  You just sort of... figured it out eventually.  We had kids from over 40 different countries represented.

[TheLittleBird]

Well, when introducing a foreign friend or colleague, wouldn't you say where they are from? It's part of the basic details that could come up during an introduction.

Yeah, but actually referring to them as 'Dutchie' or 'Irish' (Red Dead Redemption) would go a little far, don't you think.

Though I'd be happy to call Josie 'Antivan', but only if it could be preceded by 'my'.

[Basement Cat]

Yeah, but actually referring to them as 'Dutchie' or 'Irish' (Red Dead Redemption) would go a little far, don't you think.

Though I'd be happy to call Josie 'Antivan', but only if it could be preceded by 'my'.

I never said I would give them a nickname based on their origin. The thing is, imagine you are introducing a colleague or friend:

 

Hi! This is Juan. He's from Spain.

Juan : Catalonia!

 

See? I'm just saying it can lead to a faux pas to mix up someone's country of origin because of cultural identity and all that.

 

On another note, I've decided on a nickname for our three advisors. I'm totally calling them that: Tac for Cullen, Strat for Leliana and Log for Josephine. Tactics, strategy and logistics. I think that suits them fine.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

I made a Josephine mii the best I could :L

[Maria Caliban]

I'm American, of British/Prussian descent.

Thank you for sharing that with us, Frenchie, I will be sure to remember it.

[TheLittleBird]

I never said I would give them a nickname based on their origin. The thing is, imagine you are introducing a colleague or friend:

Hi! This is Juan. He's from Spain.
Juan : Catalonia!

See? I'm just saying it can lead to a faux pas to mix up someone's country of origin because of cultural identity and all that.

On another note, I've decided on a nickname for our three advisors. I'm totally calling them that: Tac for Cullen, Strat for Leliana and Log for Josephine. Tactics, strategy and logistics. I think that suits them fine.

Oh I just interpreted the whole 'referring to someone as their nationality' thing like that.

Anyway. I quite like those nicknames, albeit for their 'functions' in Inquisition. For nicknames referring to their characters I find them less suited.

[Basement Cat]

Oh I just interpreted the whole 'referring to someone as their nationality' thing like that.

Anyway. I quite like those nicknames, albeit for their 'functions' in Inquisition. For nicknames referring to their characters I find them less suited.

Yeah, I'm going to play a jackass at least once and be rude to everyone. I will rob them of their humanity by refering to them by their jobs. Mwhehehehehe.

[Allazor]

Knowing a bit of the person's heritage and backstory is not bad for starters, it can save you from faux pas. Then you can start building a relation form there and if they want to share more of who they are and were they come from, they will, when you both know each other better. That is how i picture Josie at the start , she will tell us those basic things and then she will be all business from then on if you don't invest time in building a friendship or a romantic relationship with her. Then she will tell her life story , her favorite wine, the best painting she ever saw in her life and how much she misses the Antivan sunsets and the smell of the city.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

 

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[Basement Cat]

 

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I'm out of likes, but this is great!

[Das Tentakel]

Some fun info on the (real-world) Montillet family:
 
The de Montillet (rather than plain old Montillet) are a noble family from the mountainous southeast of France, to be specific the region of Bugey, originally part of the Holy Roman Empire and only part of France since 1601.
Most famous member: Jean-François de Montillet de Grenaud (1702-1776), Archbishop of Auch.
 

 
He disliked both Jansenists (a rather strict and somewhat Calvinist-ish movement with the Roman Catholic church) and Enlightenment philosophes. He seems to have hated Voltaire's guts.
 
And here's the Montillet family arms:
 

 

[Gannayev of Dreams]

*snip*

 

Interesting information, thanks.

[Allazor]

Some fun info on the (real-world) Montillet family:
 
The de Montillet (rather than plain old Montillet) are a noble family from the mountainous southeast of France, to be specific the region of Bugey, originally part of the Holy Roman Empire and only part of France since 1601.
Most famous member: Jean-François de Montillet de Grenaud (1702-1776), Archbishop of Auch.
 

 
He disliked both Jansenists (a rather strict and somewhat Calvinist-ish movement with the Roman Catholic church) and Enlightenment philosophes. He seems to have hated Voltaire's guts.
 
And here's the Montillet family arms:
 

 

 

He was a catholic bishop , by rule of thumb we can say he hated change and everything new . I hope Our Josie will be more Polish- Italian when it comes to religion. It means the church can say what they want and preach what they want, but if they push for laws and legislations that limit the freedoms of everyday people they will be stopped. I Like to think of Josie as a true diplomat, even if she a believer she won't put her own faith and interests above those of the Inquisition ( the greater good ) and will stand firmly by the Inquisitor. But if somebody wants Thedas to be again "happy Chantry Land", then hey there is Leliana for you . Leave Josie out of it .

[Atian]

I bet you would, Frenchie.

He was Belgian.

[TheLittleBird]

Josie doesn't strike me as being religious at all. It just seems like she'd feel religion only gets in the way of what's important.

[Maria Caliban]

I'm going to guess she's less religious than the Right and Left Hands of the Divine, but as she's hanging out with them and Ser Templar, she's probably good little Andrastian.

And religion is one of the most powerful forces in Thedas. I'm not sure how it would get in the way of anything.

[TheLittleBird]

Oh I'm not saying she'd be right if she thought that it'd be distracting in any way, just that I feel like she does think that.

[Basement Cat]

I don't think religion is going to be a big part of her character. We already have Cassandra and Leliana for that. My guess is that she follows the teachings of the Chantry but she doesn't really dwell on them like Leliana would.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

A "fair weather" Andrastian, perhaps.

[schall_und_rauch]

From the little I know, Josephine seems to be the most boring character as of yet. There is just nothing that makes her stand out or interesting as a personality. Good-looking, freckles, noble, diplomat, planing, loyal, bla bla. Nothing that says "I absolutely want to get to know this character", no rough edges, nothing unique I know about her.

 

The fact that she has the same writer as Liara@ME 3 doesn't make it better -- I thought Liara was extremely bland in ME3. No can't say I remember any particular line of dialogue.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

From the little I know, Josephine seems to be the most boring character as of yet. There is just nothing that makes her stand out or interesting as a personality. Good-looking, freckles, noble, diplomat, planing, loyal, bla bla. Nothing that says "I absolutely want to get to know this character", no rough edges, nothing unique I know about her.

 

The fact that she has the same writer as Liara@ME 3 doesn't make it better -- I thought Liara was extremely bland in ME3. No can't say I remember any particular line of dialogue.

 

Some might say that her lack of a "rough edge" is exactly what makes her stand out amongst the rest of the cast.  She is an example of normalcy balanced against some of the zealous, grizzled, jaded, or downright bizarre life perspectives the others bring.

 

To each their own, of course.