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I wanted to give yr mentions time to calm down before I asked a VERY serious Q: are you still Orlesian? Rivainian? Antivian?
Wait wait, do you mean me or Josie?
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Just wondering how you self-identify. I don't want to... uh, mis-ethnicize you? That's not a word.
Hah! Thedosian Allegra would be Antivan, but an Antivan who had received her education in Orlais, I suppose.
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I wanted to give yr mentions time to calm down before I asked a VERY serious Q: are you still Orlesian? Rivainian? Antivian?
Wait wait, do you mean me or Josie?
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Just wondering how you self-identify. I don't want to... uh, mis-ethnicize you? That's not a word.
Hah! Thedosian Allegra would be Antivan, but an Antivan who had received her education in Orlais, I suppose.
That could be how she and Leliana know each other
That could be how she and Leliana know each other
I would like that. Maybe Josephine's parents sent her to Lady Cecillie as a child to learn Orlesian etiquette and there she met and befriended Leliana.
I think she meant herself and not Josie, hence "Thedosian Allegra"
i wonder which other person will be Josie's bestfriend maybe Viv or Dorian?
Leliana.
Antiva is loosely based of of Italy so her having an Italian accent isn't against lore.
When the devs say someone from Antiva having an Italian-sounding accent is correct, then it's not going against the lore.
That is all.
The problem is not having Antiva as a country with more than one language that is fine, countries with close borders can have similar languages and customs but Rivaini language is nothing like Antiva so it seems, since they speak Ferelden base languages aka English and somehow the same can be said about Tevinter.
The problem is that Antiva seems to be the only one with this kinda of thing, even with Rivaini in one side and Tevinter on other and the Free Marches close by, so the migrations theory holds no water nor even a conquer one.
Antiva sounds like a country with "south European accents since they sound all latino" so it must be all the same.
That is true. We know little about Antiva. I'm excited to learn more. The stories we got from Zev were aaahhh! I want to visit Antiva City. It sounds like a crazy place. Josephine isn't from there, though, is she? I don't think we get to visit Antiva, do we? I doubt we'd get to visit a hub capital. Another game or DLC! pleasepleasepleaseplease Antiva and Tevinter are the places I want to go to most of all.
Josephine is from Antiva City. Her interview says she misses the view of the sea from her home there.
And yeah, I would love to see Antiva someday.
EDIT: But perhaps Josephine picked up a bit of Orlesian in her accent? Oooh, Allegra does speak French... oooooh her pronunciation of Orlesian words will be delicious.
I think it would be cool if Josephine learned how to speak with an Orlesian accent when dealing with Orlesians as a diplomatic tactic.
i wonder which other person will be Josie's bestfriend maybe Viv or Dorian?
I think Vivienne will be rivals with Josephine, both in fashion and with handling the Orlesian court. Friendly rivals perhaps, but rivals nonetheless.
How about rivals who act friendly but actually hate each other's guts?
Vivienne: Josephine, welcome! *kiss-kiss* I love you're dress!
Josephine: Why, thank you, Vivienne! Might I say that you wear that headdress well?
Vivienne: Oh! Thank you, my dear! Enjoy the party!
*while out of each other's earshot*
Vivienne: Stinking Antivan wine merchant.
Josephine: One of these days, I'm going to cut that #####...
Reminds me of this:
Vivienne is the Miranda Priestly to Josephine's Andy Sachs? Lol perhaps not to that extent.
Josephine is from Antiva City. Her interview says she misses the view of the sea from her home there.
And yeah, I would love to see Antiva someday.
I think it would be cool if Josephine learned how to speak with an Orlesian accent when dealing with Orlesians as a diplomatic tactic.
FFFFF- I want Antiva City. I WANT IT.
Vivienne is the Miranda Priestly to Josephine's Andy Sachs? Lol perhaps not to that extent.
FFFFF- I want Antiva City. I WANT IT.
I really want something like this as an ingame painting to give to Josephine as a gift.
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I want it in-game to explore, smarty-pants.
Well the fellow that worked on the comics did say that he created a full 3d model of Antivan City before he drew it.
So there's hope!
Although it is unlikely.
Vivienne is the Miranda Priestly to Josephine's Andy Sachs? Lol perhaps not to that extent.
FFFFF- I want Antiva City. I WANT IT.
miranda's YOU THINK THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU speech is like 100% probably how the grand game works
Well the fellow that worked on the comics did say that he created a full 3d model of Antivan City before he drew it.
So there's hope!
Although it is unlikely.
I really think Antiva is just based on the Mediterranean, as a whole. That is why they use mediterranean accents no matter what.
The only exception is France, which they really distinguish and use them only for Orlais.
But otherwise, Spain, Italy, Portugal and Greece, I think is fair game for Antivan lore. Dont be surprised if they use things of those countries/histories.
After all, we are really not than different from each other. Yes, people want to be independent and whatnot, but actually we are not soo different.
Dont flame me for that, I am spanish so I have immunity 
And regarding languages, you were correct in Spain we have 4 official languages, but also we have more dialects. And dont get me started on accents.
So it really does not surprise me at all if in Antiva they have many languages/dialects and therefor many accents. Surprised to find spanish accent in Antiva? GO TO MIAMI LOL 
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Let's see...Spanish...Italian...gangsters...pirates...poison...where's the Italo-Spanish anti-defamation League when you need them?
I actually think often about the mediterraneam stereotypes they use 
but in the end... who cares? Rivain and Antiva are super cool
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Antiva sounds like a country with "south European accents since they sound all latino" so it must be all the same.
Yeah, just want to know if Antiva has different languages. Then I can be like, "okay, cool." Again, I'm continue to annoy all of you because you are arguing against something that isn't logical. Just.. accept that it is lol. Italian and Spanish are very different. They don't sound similar and lots of Spanish and Italian people dislike being mistaken for one another, heh, like most European countries they all dislike being mistaken for eachother. Don't call Poirot french! HE IS BELGIAN!
My experience is that in fact most mediterranean accents sound similar to a lot of people in northern europe, but truth it's I can't tell the difference between dutch, german or swedish accents either, so I personally can't blame them
My experience is that in fact most mediterranean accents sound similar to a lot of people in northern europe, but truth it's I can't tell the difference between dutch, german or swedish accents either, so I personally can't blame them
You get the same problem with Russian, Serbian, Slovakian, etc. accents. If you're not familiar with the language, you probably can't tell the difference.
Anyway, back to Josie.
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Do you think she's ticklish? 
I'm more curious about what she looks like with her hair down I bet she looks quite lovely 
(I'm hoping some fan art with her bun undone is floating around some where that's one of the two Josephine fanarts I absolutely need in life)
Do you have a professional background that utilizes this sort of knowledge or is it a hobby?
A bit of both. I’m a historian by background and I did several courses on Mediterranean history and my thesis had to deal with language questions and nationalism. In addition, I just like Mediterranean history and languages in general, and my hobbies (late Roman historical re-enactment and DM’ing Cthulhu and, in the past, Ars Magica, both involving Mediterranean history, European languages and dialects) reinforced this.
Antiva sounds like a country with "south European accents since they sound all latino" so it must be all the same.
All the countries and cultures in DA, with the exception of Ferelden (‘America with swords’) are effectively ‘exotic’ from the point of view of the creators and the main audience. The DA games are made by an overwhelmingly white Anglophone North American team (there’s an occasional Brit here and there, I believe) for a primarily white, Anglophone North American customer base. So yes, there’s probably something of a North American ‘all you Mexicans / Colombians / Spaniards / Italians / Greeks / Arabs / Indians etc. all look and and sound the same’ effect going on here.
Now to be honest, even northern Europeans (particularly the ones that aren’t particularly well-educated or never go beyond Marbella beach) sometimes show a bit of this attitude.
At least Bio tries to bring in a little diversity; let’s be glad they don’t have the cultural insensitivity issues we see here:
https://www.youtube....h?v=SeoX8MZd81E
(Though I have to admit I had to chuckle, particularly at the Amsterdam scene)
Do we have any reason to believe Antiva's the size of Corsica?
Bio has been very fuzzy on world size; there’s probably a reason why the markings along the edges of the Thedas map don’t come with any indicator of the scale. The only indicators we have are travel distances in DA:O and one in WoT. The first allows calculating that Ferelden is about the size of Puerto Rico, and Antiva is somewhat comparable (and thus about the same size as Corsica). The WoT reference is too non-specific to allow reliable calculations, but is in principle compatible with the DA:O-based calculation. See here (http://dragonage.wik...ig_is_Ferelden? See also this thread, starting about here: http://forum.bioware...4#entry16806070 ).
Personally, I don’t think Bio intends Ferelden to be this size, but it does mean that Thedas’ size ‘hangs in the air’, and the only info we have indicates a small size.
I also don't think you need much of an explanation to explain a very large degree of linguistic differentiation within a single nation, either, especially if it's an analogue for a European nation. Spain's got Castilian, Catalan, Galician, and Basque (which isn't related to it). France has several languages, including Occitan, which is more closely related to Catalan. Same with Italy.
You have to make a distinction between the existence of multiple languages side by side, and their actual mutual relationship and origins. Spanish and Italian accents suggests the existence of languages similar to Castilian and (Tuscan) Italian, which in our world have a history of over 2,000 years of linguistic development in regions over 1,000 kilometers apart and divided by sea and land.
Castilian and Italian had no meaningful direct language contact before the 16th century. Prior to that time, Northern French and Italian (specifically the northern dialects, including Tuscan) had more language contact with each other – through trade, conquest and settlement - than Castilian and Italian.
The really, really tricky thing here is not the existence of two languages in a single country, but the (implied) existence of two closely related but very distinctive ones within what looks like a rather modest-sized country. That requires time and / or distance, and a prolonged absence, or severe limitation, of extensive language contact.
Regardless of its exact dimensions*, Antiva seems to be relatively modest in size and has a clear centre. The local emergence of two very, very distinctive languages, resulting in two very distinctive accents in English / Common seems pretty unlikely under these circumstances.
Again, unless you whip out the old ‘migration from elsewhere’ excuse.
Look at this:
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Whoa. I just fully blew my own mind. Differing Antivan accents are plausible as hell.
I advise blowing your nose, not your mind, much healthier 
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A random dude or dudette superimposing part of the Thedas map on a map of Europe doesn't mean a thing.
Anyway, even a modern language map does not give a good impression of how things ‘are on the ground’, and particularly not how they were historically or how they developed. Galician, Portuguese, Castilian and Catalan are far more similar than Castilian and Italian. I certainly can’t differentiate between the English accent of a Catalan and that of a Castilian with similar levels of fluency, though perhaps if I really, really pay attention I just about might**.
If, ultimately, you want to say ‘who cares, it's just a game and anything goes’, then I would agree. DA is not about linguistic consistency, it’s about killing things, looting their stuff, silly banter and occasional virtual sex. And nugs (let's not forget the nugs)... 
* Antiva is described as a city-state if I remember correctly – it sounds more like Venice, Milan or Florence than the 13th century lands of the Crown of Aragon or 12th-13th century Sicily.
** Next time I see my Catalan friends, I’ll ask how to recognise the differences. I will probably have to be diplomatic about it
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