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[Lukas Trevelyan]

This also got me wondering how much Josephine knows about Warden and Hawke and if she's going to talk about them and about her opinions in the popular decisions made.

This would be really neat, like if we made Anora and Alistair married she would point out how that arrangement was one of the best diplomatic moves and how she's completely convinced with it being the best option. 

[Basement Cat]

Do you think Josephine will be Andrastian? Idk why -I hope she's somewhat religious - but I don't think she'll be very much into the chantry or even the religion in general, something like Aveline.

Regardless of her beliefs, I think Josephine will know better than to argue religion. Hot button issue and all that.

[Basement Cat]

This also got me wondering how much Josephine knows about Warden and Hawke and if she's going to talk about them and about her opinions in the popular decisions made.

This would be really neat, like if we made Anora and Alistair married she would point out how that arrangement was one of the best diplomatic moves and how she's completely convinced with it being the best option. 

It would be interesting to see her comment on the resolution of the Ferelden civil war. Leliana is sure to have told her all about it considering she was there (probably). I wonder if the Keep has an option where we never recruited Leliana? Oh well, I'll soon find out...(Thanks again to you know who. She's been quiet for a while now...)

[TheLittleBird]

But that's metagaming. The initial plan was actually to have the battle near Redcliffe; the horde marching towards Denerim was a surprise to everyone. As for dying, how? When you have to decide Logahin's fate you don't know that the Warden who kills the Archdemon dies.

 

Metagaming? Yes. If you want to look at it from a roleplaying perspective, just have this: have him fight the darkspawn, face the evil that he was denying, show him how wrong he was, how he has led the Ferelden he was trying to save to the brink of destruction. Like I said, it's poetic justice. The Grey Wardens may not be about poetry or justice or even redemption, but the Hero of Ferelden is a different story.

Or you could just roleplay the recruiment of Loghain as having one extra sword against the darkspawn, if your primary concern is the Blight.

 

Do you think Josephine will be Andrastian? Idk why -I hope she's somewhat religious - but I don't think she'll be very much into the chantry or even the religion in general, something like Aveline.

 

I do think she's Andrastean, as that seems to be the primary religion in Antiva as well (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but like you said, I don't think she'll be a very religious person. She may not even believe in the Maker. Don't think her story and dialogue will involve a lot of that anyway. It seems like she'd know better than even occupy herself with religious activities or -discussion in times like these and focus on her job and role within the Inquisition.

[TheLittleBird]

It would be interesting to see her comment on the resolution of the Ferelden civil war. Leliana is sure to have told her all about it considering she was there (probably). I wonder if the Keep has an option where we never recruited Leliana? Oh well, I'll soon find out...(Thanks again to you know who. She's been quiet for a while now...)

 

Tomorrow! Hopefully... they said they were going to start sending out invites tomorrow. Anyway, I'm looking forward to it. Though I'm fairly certain the option of not recruiting Leliana won't be overlooked. In the Keep reveal video from about a week, maybe two, ago there's even the choice whether or not you retrieved Sten's sword, so it seems like we get a lot of options.

 

But yes, it'll be really interesting to see her comment not only on the civil war in Ferelden, but also all of the other major events in the previous two games. Maybe she mentions how she think the situation should've been handled in Kirkwall, what with the mages and Templars. That said, I wonder... would she be pro-mage, or pro-Templar? To me it seems like she'd actually be pro-resolution, whatever that entails. Though I am sure she'll know better than to take a side in this conflict.

[Basement Cat]

I do think she's Andrastean, as that seems to be the primary religion in Antiva as well (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but like you said, I don't think she'll be a very religious person. She may not even believe in the Maker. Don't think her story and dialogue will involve a lot of that anyway. It seems like she'd know better than even occupy herself with religious activities or -discussion in times like these and focus on her job and role within the Inquisition.

I don't think it's so much that she might not be religious as opposed to it not being a priority, if you will. I don't think it's going to be a defining aspect, as was said earlier, but she could still be religious. Just not on the same level as Leliana and Cassandra. With the Inquisitor being called the Herald of Andraste, religion is bound to come up in conversation with love interests.

[LobselVith8]

Do you think Josephine will be Andrastian? Idk why -I hope she's somewhat religious - but I don't think she'll be very much into the chantry or even the religion in general, something like Aveline.

 

If she's truly like Aveline then she would either be atheist or agnostic. Hard to say at this point whether Josephine will be religiously Andrastian or not since we don't have that much information on her, or whether it'll even come up in a relationship with a non-Andrastian protagonist (whether it's a friendship or a romance). Josephine might show curiosity about the beliefs of the Inquisitor, which would be a nice moment to share the cultural and spiritual perspective of the main character with someone who is trying to better understand him or her.

[TheLittleBird]

I don't think it's so much that she might not be religious as opposed to it not being a priority, if you will. I don't think it's going to be a defining aspect, as was said earlier, but she could still be religious. Just not on the same level as Leliana and Cassandra. With the Inquisitor being called the Herald of Andraste, religion is bound to come up in conversation with love interests.

 

That's what I meant

Yeah I agree, it's bound to come up at least once, but I don't think it'll be a defining aspect of Josephine's character and story-, friendship- and romance arcs.

[Basement Cat]

That's what I meant

Yeah I agree, it's bound to come up at least once, but I don't think it'll be a defining aspect of Josephine's character and story-, friendship- and romance arcs.

One of these days you'll tell me to get out of your head, but it won't work... 

[TheLittleBird]

One of these days you'll tell me to get out of your head, but it won't work... 

 

"Yeah, Meredith? I volunteer for the Rite of Tranquility."

[Sifr]

This also got me wondering how much Josephine knows about Warden and Hawke and if she's going to talk about them and about her opinions in the popular decisions made.

This would be really neat, like if we made Anora and Alistair married she would point out how that arrangement was one of the best diplomatic moves and how she's completely convinced with it being the best option. 

 

With Leliana and Varric around to provide both first hand accounts of their deeds, I dare say she might end up knowing a fair bit about them. I've actually wanted to see our character's decisions through a lense for some time in these games, making us question how our decisions affected the lives of others aside from just epilogue slides and the occasional sidequest?

 

I think Scribbles is probably going to be a fan of the Warden, although I think she'd prefer a Hawke who sided with the Mages, rather than one who sided with the Templars? I picture Cass as probably being the other way around, admiring the Warden's actions but disliking the order itself for their secretive nature (hypocrisy, thine name be Seeker), whereas she respects Hawke but prefers one who sided with the Templars, rather than the Mages.

[Mistic]

With Leliana and Varric around to provide both first hand accounts of their deeds, I dare say she might end up knowing a fair bit about them. I've actually wanted to see our character's decisions through a lense for some time in these games, making us question how our decisions affected the lives of others aside from just epilogue slides and the occasional sidequest?

 

I think Scribbles is probably going to be a fan of the Warden, although I think she'd prefer a Hawke who sided with the Mages, rather than one who sided with the Templars? I picture Cass as probably being the other way around, admiring the Warden's actions but disliking the order itself for their secretive nature (hypocrisy, thine name be Seeker), whereas she respects Hawke but prefers one who sided with the Templars, rather than the Mages.

 

I'm picturing now a scene with the Inquisition divided in two sides: Team Warden and Team Hawke. Each companion and advisor taking a side depending on our characters' choices.

 

Varric looks like forever Team Hawke. Leliana would be Team Warden unless "killed" in the temple. Cassandra probably Team Hawke through Varric. Cullen probably Team Hawke, unless Warden is Female Mage Origin. And so on. As for Josephine, I think Team Warden. Not only because of Leliana; no matter what the character was like, the Warden always managed to build a large army from nothing thanks to old treaties and doing errands for each faction.

 

Josephine: "See? That's the diplomatic way."

 

Inquisitor: "The Warden also killed entire armies to do so. And not always darkspawn."

 

Josephine: "I said 'diplomatic', not pacifist."

 

Seriously, if Varric and Leliana don't discuss their respective heroes' deeds at some point in DA:I, I'm going to be very disappointed.

[Basement Cat]

I'm picturing now a scene with the Inquisition divided in two sides: Team Warden and Team Hawke. Each companion and advisor taking a side depending on our characters' choices.

 

Varric looks like forever Team Hawke. Leliana would be Team Warden unless "killed" in the temple. Cassandra probably Team Hawke through Varric. Cullen probably Team Hawke, unless Warden is Female Mage Origin. And so on. As for Josephine, I think Team Warden. Not only because of Leliana; no matter what the character was like, the Warden always managed to build a large army from nothing thanks to old treaties and doing errands for each faction.

 

Josephine: "See? That's the diplomatic way."

 

Inquisitor: "The Warden also killed entire armies to do so. And not always darkspawn."

 

Josephine: "I said 'diplomatic', not pacifist."

 

Seriously, if Varric and Leliana don't discuss their respective heroes' deeds at some point in DA:I, I'm going to be very disappointed.

I would say Cullen might be more for the Warden regardless of Origin. They did clean out the tower of demons, after all.

 

Heck, if the Warden saved the mages and Hawke sided with them, Cullen might point out the similarities between them. (I want this so much now)

[Sifr]

I would say Cullen might be more for the Warden regardless of Origin. They did clean out the tower of demons, after all.

 

Heck, if the Warden saved the mages and Hawke sided with them, Cullen might point out the similarities between them. (I want this so much now)

 

In my canon playthough, Cullen would probably attribute their pro-Mage stance, general notoriety and tendency to be fight magnets for everything and everyone in range, to their being distantly related.

 

Quoth Tallis, "Why am I not surprised?"

 

[TheLittleBird]

I would say Cullen might be more for the Warden regardless of Origin. They did clean out the tower of demons, after all.

 

Heck, if the Warden saved the mages and Hawke sided with them, Cullen might point out the similarities between them. (I want this so much now)

 

And Hawke cleaned out Kirkwall of qunari, demons, blood mages, and Meredith.

But I'd love banter on both the Warden and Hawke, from everyone. A discussion between Varric and Leliana, with Cassandra swooning over the romantic side of both stories. And Josephine commenting on what conflict could've been resolved in a more diplomatic way. Now that I mention it... I'd love to hear Josephine comment on the Landsmeet, maybe even calling it 'barbaric' and quite surely 'inefficient'.

[Basement Cat]

In my canon playthough, Cullen would probably attribute their pro-Mage stances, notoriety and tendency to be fight magnets, to their being cousins.

 

Quoth Tallis, "Why am I not surprised?"

 

That could lead to a funny dialogue for an Amell mage and a Trevelyan.

 

Cullen: The Hero of Ferelden and the Champion of Kirkwall were related, you know.

 

Trevelyan: So I heard, yes.

 

Cullen: You wouldn't happen to be a cousin of theirs, would you?

 

Trevelyan: *sigh* I swear if I somebody asks that question one more time!

 

Cullen: I take it that's a no?

 

Varric: Pity. It had such great potential.

 

Sera: One big, happy, monster slaying family.

 

Dorian: Perhaps there is a connection with the Pentaghasts, then? They are famous dragon slayers.

 

Cassandra: I think not. My family has no ancestry in the Free Marches.

 

Leliana: No official ancestry, perhaps. There could have been a by blow.

 

Trevelyan: *spots Josephine, muttering* The only family I want to be connected to right now is the Montilyet family.

 

Everyone: Ooooh!

 

Josephine: *blush*

[Wynnen]

I fear that that everyone asking my mage Trevelyan is she related to Amell family anyway will somehow move to my head canon. Just because. And her being on all heroes are f!human mages xD playthrough will have nothing to do with it 

 

There forums are dangerous I pick up new lovely ideas that might become head canons for me... like all the time

[Basement Cat]

I fear that that everyone asking my mage Trevelyan is she related to Amell family anyway will somehow move to my head canon. Just because. And her being on all heroes are f!human mages xD playthrough will have nothing to do with it 

 

There forums are dangerous I pick up new lovely ideas that might become head canons for me... like all the time

If it changes all the time, does that make it a loose canon? *snerk*

[thats1evildude]

And Josephine commenting on what conflict could've been resolved in a more diplomatic way. Now that I mention it... I'd love to hear Josephine comment on the Landsmeet, maybe even calling it 'barbaric' and quite surely 'inefficient'.

Ha! As if the Antivans are any better!

[Sifr]

Since I've already headcanoned that my Mage Trevelyan's will lose a lover in the Breach, a bittersweet connection would be that this doomed mage is one of Revka Amell's other children who were sent to the Circle, mentioned by Leandra in DA2.

 

Headcanon accepted!

[TheLittleBird]

Ha! As if the Antivans are any better!

The difference lies in the presentation

[Basement Cat]

The difference lies in the presentation

I bet the food is better too.

 

If you talk to Leliana a second time at the end of Origins, she'll say that she won't mention the food in her story because even the royal castle can't provide decent fare. 

[Wynnen]

If it changes all the time, does that make it a loose canon? *snerk*

 

No no no. What I mean is that it will add to current head canon. It just happen when I pick up peoples lovely ideas xP 

 

Aaaand I just got feeling I missed something on your post

[TheLittleBird]

I bet the food is better too.

If you talk to Leliana a second time at the end of Origins, she'll say that she won't mention the food in her story because even the royal castle can't provide decent fare.

Ah, I forgot that one.
Ferelden doesn't strike me as a particularly great country when it comes to the cuisine anyway. I wonder what the food would be like in Antiva. Reckon they'd go with pasta and tapas and the like?

[thats1evildude]

Hey, were we posting Trevor videos? My (not) hopes for the Josephine romance?

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=ltSOidHtxOk

Inquisitor: Oh baby, we were made for each other!
Josephine: Prove it! Race me around Skyhold!

Ferelden doesn't strike me as a particularly great country when it comes to the cuisine anyway.

And what's wrong with boiling everything until it's a uniform grey colour?

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=76bGuYNCw_U