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[Wissenschaft]

Ah, I thought I read that josie was the youngest, nevermind then. I'd hardly consider someone in their mid-twenties as experienced enough to be leaders of the inquistion. Cullen will be barely old enough to qualify and it looks like a lot of former templar will join him as the initial foundation of the inquisition's army.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Leliana: (does she have a cannon age?) 28-31 (I see her as being maybe a couple years older than Josephine, they could still be good friends from years ago that way)

Well, I believe it was said she was in her early to mid twenties in Origins, so she would be in her early to mid thirties now. 

[Boudicae]

Leliana's in her mid-thirties at least.

 

how old was she supposed to be in Origins? I always thought that Alistair was around 22-25, but it turns out he was 19-20? Which I thought was weird. So I thought maybe Leliana was around 20-21 in Origins. That still gives her 5-6 years to have a history in Orlais.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Ah, I thought I read that josie was the youngest, nevermind then. I'd hardly consider someone in their mid-twenties as experienced enough to be leaders of the inquistion. Cullen will be barely old enough to qualify and it looks like a lot of former templar will join him as the initial foundation of the inquisition's army.

Warden could be a late teenager and yet leads the forces against the Blight. 

 

Or for real world examples:

Joan of Arc led armies as a teenager. 

Alexander the Great built the second largest empire of the ancient world by the time he was twenty. 

 

Age isn't a factor in these things. 

[Wissenschaft]

Warden could be a late teenager and yet leads the forces against the Blight. 

 

Or for real world examples:

Joan of Arc led armies as a teenager. 

Alexander the Great built the second largest empire of the ancient world by the time he was twenty. 

 

Age isn't a factor in these things. 

 

Joan of arc was an adviser and served sort of like a standard barer in battles. Despite popular perception, she didn't actually lead the french armies. Alexander the great had several much older generals leading his armies and acting as advisers. Its these same generals that split his empire apart after his death. Alexander was also raised from birth to be a military leader and a genius. He still used the most experience men has his generals which were all older men.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Joan of arc was an adviser and served sort of like a standard barer in battles. Despite popular perception, she didn't actually lead the french armies. Alexander the great had several much older generals leading his armies and acting as advisers. Its these same generals that split his empire apart after his death.

Alexander led from the front lines and ordered his generals about, and ignored their advise as much as he listened to it.

[Wissenschaft]

Alexander led from the front lines, and ignored his advisers as much as he listened to them.

 

Yup, he also got himself killed at a young age and his empire fractured as a result. Perhaps he was a bit imprudent in some regards.

[The Elder King]

 

Warden could be a late teenager and yet leads the forces against the Blight. 

The Warden lead because he's the one that managed to rally everyone against the Blight. And he had to do that because he was the only Warden, other then another young one who didn't want to lead. He wouldn't have be in charge if one senioe Warden was present.
Though I agree with you that it's possible for a young one to lead, . Maybe Bioware wanted to make a more mature group this time.

[Boudicae]

I think people are getting too hung up on the number of years old someone is. As an example, many moden Shakespeare and Jane Austen adaptations use actors who are much older than the original characters. Because, while it would have been perfectly normal for a 16 year old girl to be married back then, today 16 year olds are still generally considered children. A 35 year old woman would have been considered much older then as compared to now.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yup, he also got himself killed at a young age and his empire fractured as a result. Perhaps he was a bit imprudent in some regards.

He did not get himself killed. He was assassinated via poison. I don't see any imprudence with getting murdered. I'll grant you the empire fracturing after his death, but that shows how it was he and not his generals and advisers who held it together. 

[Wissenschaft]

He did not get himself killed. He was assassinated via poison. I don't see any imprudence with getting murdered. 

 

Its actually uncleared how he died. poisoning is just a theory and theres isn't that much evidence to support any theory. Its just as likely he died by pushing his army through wild areas where he caught a disease.

[TheLittleBird]

Anyway I was born on 1995 so I'm 18 that makes me around 10 years younger, oo 

 

1995 was the best year to be born.

 

He did not get himself killed. He was assassinated via poison. I don't see any imprudence with getting murdered. I'll grant you the empire fracturing after his death, but that shows how it was he and not his generals and advisers who held it together. 

 

That is up for debate. Granted, many a source claims it was poison that killed him but the words 'malaria' and 'typhoid fever' have also been thrown around, not to mention heavy drinking and an alleged spearwound when besieging a city.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Its actually uncleared how he died. poisoning is just a theory and theres isn't that much evidence to support any theory. Its just as likely he died by pushing his army through areas where he caught a disease.

That is up for debate. Granted, many a source claims it was poison that killed him but the words 'malaria' and 'typhoid fever' have also been thrown around, not to mention heavy drinking and an alleged spearwound when besieging a city.

Actually, it is believed that they discovered the poison that was used: Veratrum Album, commonly known as the White Hellebore. The poison from it takes as long to act and shows the same symptoms that match the chain of events describing his illness and death.

Though even if natural disease is what did it, that is not imprudence on his part. Nobody from where he was has been where he went before so had no knowledge of those diseases.

 

Sorry if I seem overdefensive. I did a huge project on Alexander so I like to defend my work.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Wow you people know your history.

And I'm just sitting here... The most interesting knowledge (and experience) was when I almost suffocated in a chemistry practical lesson when the sulfuric acid was far too hot when I put the magnesium strip and the hydrogen evaporated quite violently.

Would Josephine be interested in someone who is a former chemistry geek?     

[TheLittleBird]

Actually, it is believed that they discovered the poison that was used: Veratrum Album, commonly known as the White Hellebore. The poison from it takes as long to act and shows the same symptoms that match the chain of events describing his illness and death.

Though even if natural disease is what did it, that is not imprudence on his part. Nobody from where he was has been where he went before so had no knowledge of those diseases.

 

Sorry if I seem overdefensive. I did a huge project on Alexander so I like to defend my work.

 

Oh I'm not arguing his imprudence just stating it's a theory. And I know of that, and though it seems likely I'm hesitant to accept it as the truth. Though of course, the assassination of a man as succesful as Alexander the Great, as quick as he managed to conquer hostile lands, doesn't seem to be something out of the ordinary, especially considering the time period.

 

I love Alexander too. There's something inspiring about his story and the way he became to be one of the, if not the, greatest generals history has ever seen. 

 

Anyway. Age in this context doesn't really mean as much as it would today, as has been pointed out, which is why we're talking about Alexander in the first place. The modern perception of age and the various stages of life and the mental and physical strength they come with differs heavily from the Ancient, Medieval or even as far as the 18th-century views on them. Indeed, it is a very modern thing to find someone in their late teens to be too young to fight in a war, to give just one example.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

To get back on topic, here's and old but very good fanart. 

 

http://filantestar.t...do-the-advisers

[TheLittleBird]

 

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[SilencetheCry]

I like this one...not sure if it's been posted here or not before...

 

http://www.deviantar...lyet-479818759 

[Wissenschaft]

Actually, it is believed that they discovered the poison that was used: Veratrum Album, commonly known as the White Hellebore. The poison from it takes as long to act and shows the same symptoms that match the chain of events describing his illness and death.

Though even if natural disease is what did it, that is not imprudence on his part. Nobody from where he was has been where he went before so had no knowledge of those diseases.

 

Sorry if I seem overdefensive. I did a huge project on Alexander so I like to defend my work.

 

I tip my hat to your knowledge.

 

Though I would argue that Alexander age didn't matter as much because he was a genius, far beyond anyone of any age at the time. The only one that should claim such a chosen one status in a DA game would be the main character we play as.

Anyway, the main reason I want to see older comapions and adviors in an RPG because its almost always very young people saving the world. I'm thinking of stories like Lord of the Rings where characters like Gandalf and Legolas are far from young with their long centuries of experience.

 

But bah, its just a personal wish of mine. lol

Anyway, do we know how tall Josie actually is? Is she actually taller than Isabela?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

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Hey, this one is new.

[Wissenschaft]

Inquistior's responce: "Technically I promised to "aggressively negotiate". I thought it went well, no one was left alive to object.

[Sifr]

 

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Inquisitor: I did negotiate. I listened to their terms.

Josephine: Really!

Inquisitor: Yes... they said, "Please stop, don't kill us, let my men live". They were actually quite reasonable demands.

Josephine: And?!

Inquisitor: I rejected them all.

[TheLittleBird]

Inquisitor following Josephine around Skyhold like:

 

[SilencetheCry]

[detorio]

 

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Inquisitor: I did negotiate. I listened to their terms.

Josephine: Really!

Inquisitor: Yes... they said, "Please stop, don't kill us, let my men live". They were actually quite reasonable demands.

Josephine: And?!

Inquisitor: I rejected them all.

 

I like it.
I can see that sort of scenario happening with my Inquisitor. Josie would persuasively ask for me to take the peaceful/negotiations route and since she's absolute babe I'd accept whilst sharpening my greatsword waiting for the the individuals in question to make one wrong move... then I'd go to work.    

And then upon my return to Skyhold and Josie's quarter is where she would react like the above fanart. Can't wait to defuse and make it up to her if & when the time comes. 

Also I'm pleased about her age   I'm 24 so I don't mind the 3-5 age gap and nor will she.