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[Han Shot First]

Josephine is a non-companion, so there was never any change that she'd end up the most popular LI. It's sort of like Traynor or Cortez from ME3. They could never compete with Garrus, Liara, or Tali for popularity.

[HuldraDancer]

I don't see how IB is in first place. Josephine is easily the best in the game, followed by Cassandra. 

 

My guesses would be because A Her romance is pack full of cheese that is far to much for a lot of people (I happen to love the cheesy goodness) B The Iron Bull's romance is surprisingly good very sweet and caring depending on what the PC wants and C Different opinons

[Jaron Oberyn]

Opinions, opinions

 

I voted for Cass btw.

Haha I know, I wasn't being too serious. Still think Josephine's the top though. Was a big Cass fan until I did her romance arc.

[Xilizhra]

Haha I know, I wasn't being too serious. Still think Josephine's the top though.

Seeing this out of context, my first reaction was "I somewhat doubt it."

[Milan92]

Haha I know, I wasn't being too serious. Still think Josephine's the top though. Was a big Cass fan until I did her romance arc.

 

I watched the Josephine romance and it was just too cheesy for my taste

 

Its great for those who are into that, but I'm sticking with Cass

[Han Shot First]

I thought Josephine's arc had some great moments.

 

The duel scene in particular was great. Because dueling. Also Otranto was a pretty cool side character.

[Br3admax]

I watched the Josephine romance and it was just too cheesy for my taste

 

Its great for those who are into that, but I'm sticking with Cass

Yeah, not exactly my cup of tea. 

"Josephine. I've never been happier in my entire life."

"We're tempting fate with such talk. But neither have I. Now just kiss me again."

 

[Milan92]

I thought Josephine's arc had some great moments.

 

The duel scene in particular was great. Because dueling. Also Otranto was a pretty cool side character.

 

The part after the duel where the inquisitor goes "Because I love you Josie!" made me cringe a bit

 

I don't know, just not my cup of tea

[AresKeith]

The part after the duel where the inquisitor goes "Because I love you Josie!" made me cringe a bit

I don't know, just not my cup of tea

Then stop playing Archer

[Feybrad]

The part after the duel where the inquisitor goes "Because I love you Josie!" made me cringe a bit

 

You could see that one coming from a Mile away, but it was done far better than most Examples of similar Tropes, so I enjoyed it.

[wickerman4]

Josephine romance, like ME3 ending, was a let down. Hug and a kiss?!?! Weak and poor writing.

[Mystical Mirage]

I'm okay with the cheesiness of it all.  Between all that my Carta Dwarf goes through in the game, she deserves something narmy.  Although I do kinda see why one would say that.

 

Also I found out that Cole has something to say on the romance.  It's pretty adorable too.  (Still can't get Dorian to say anything. Ugh.)

[Sifr]

There are people with brown hair. For example:

 

Which is odd considering that his mother and two out of three of his potential fathers don't have brown hair...

 

And in my playthrough, the Warden had black hair, so I guess the only explanations are it's a genetic throwback and/or magic?

 

[Call Me Jord]

Some higher power is washing the part of my brain that stores memories.

 

I forgot how to trigger Josephine's quest involving the House of Repose and the assasination contract. Is it just talking to Josie multiple times or?

[DragonMage95]

I'm okay with the cheesiness of it all. Between all that my Carta Dwarf goes through in the game, she deserves something narmy. Although I do kinda see why one would say that.

Also I found out that Cole has something to say on the romance. It's pretty adorable too. (Still can't get Dorian to say anything. Ugh.)

Aw, Cole says something? I wonder if you have to complete his quests to trigger whatever he says because he doesn't say much aside from his references to me.

[Efvie]

You talk to her regarding the rleationship a couple times after the duel cinematic. Dialogue with her and her sister at winter palace, the dance,

 

This is of course missing if you somehow can’t find the right options to advance the romance until after doing Wicked, like me…

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Which is odd considering that his mother and two out of three of his potential fathers don't have brown hair...

 

And in my playthrough, the Warden had black hair, so I guess the only explanations are it's a genetic throwback and/or magic?

 

Nah probably just recessive genes which isn't that far from realism at all :3 

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Josephine romance, like ME3 ending, was a let down. Hug and a kiss?!?! Weak and poor writing.

Take that remark to the other 18720123 threads about the romance options for male gamers please, we try to keep things positive here because there are a ton of people who disagree but won't be bothered to argue :3 Also be reasonable and respectful and think twice before posting such a critique :3 

[Zandilar]

Ambiguous ... what an interesting word, lol

 

If there's nothing more than romance than I believe it's because she is clearly innocent, shy and maybe(!) even virgin. Doesn't matter to me though, I'll manage with blushing cheeks or pyjamas party.

 

EDIT: forgot to add - thank you for reply

 

Hmm... Not clearly "innocent", IMHO. 

 

I've already stated my opinion earlier in the thread.

 

In short - she's too old to be an innocent, given her line of work (the manipulation of people to get them to do what you want them to do).

 

Take her as asexual/biromantic, that's fine. I don't have a problem with that - might explain why she's nearly 30 and without heirs. (I personally don't take her that way, and that's fine too - not sure I can as easily explain the lack of heirs, though.) But being asexual doesn't automatically mean you're an innocent.

 

You can be shy without being an innocent too (I should know, I'm no where near innocent, though I can be awkward and very shy around people I don't know).

 

The thing that clearly illustrates my view of Josephine is the game of wicked grace. I'll say no more, since that's spoiler territory.

[xLawGamerx]

I liked the romance overall, but man was that duel scene disappointing. Great idea, but poor execution.

 

I used to fence in college, and our team got into pretty intense debates about movie/theatre duels and what makes a good one. We eventually decided on three criteria:

 

1. A good villain as an opponent.

2. Good swordsmanship.

3. Good/pithy banter between the parties.

 

We decided you need at least two of the three to make a good duel scene. Take for example, the fight in The Princess Bride, which is one that most people think of as a classic. Sure, neither one of the parties is a "villain" per se, but they make the fencing look pretty competent and there are a lot of instant classic one liners, like "I am not left handed!" Therefore, it fulfills two of the three criteria and makes for an entertaining duel.

 

In contrast I thought the Inquisition scene failed on all three levels:

 

First, Ontranto isn't nearly enough of a heel. He doesn't cheat and he gives in far too easily and gracefully. At the end he's all "I know when I'm outmatched." I mean, say what?! That's way too much self-awareness to make up a good villain. I don't want to end the duel feeling like he's a nice guy, I want to feel glad that I kicked his butt. It would have been better to have him be completely oblivious to the fact that he was a total jerk. I also think it would have helped a lot to have introduced him earlier in the romance. Set him up as someone I look forward to dueling rather than just a random dude who shows up in a side-quest.

 

Second, the actual fencing doesn't look too good. I was particularly shocked by how it looked like my Inquisitor had never held a sword before in his life, despite my character spending the prior forty hours killing pretty much every living thing in Thedas. Plus, I played as a human noble - so one would safely assume that my character would at least have had some training on how to hold a rapier. The way it looked, I wouldn't trust my Inquisitor with a kitchen knife.

 

Third, there was almost no banter during the actual duel. I get why we couldn't actually have much combat gameplay since the scene needs to end a particular way, but I would have liked to have had some conversation options to throw taunts back and forth during the fight. The very idea of a duel to determine a romance is pretty cheesy to begin with, so if there was every a time to turn the one-liners up to 11, this was it.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

I liked the romance overall, but man was that duel scene disappointing. Great idea, but poor execution.

 

I used to fence in college, and our team got into pretty intense debates about movie/theatre duels and what makes a good one. We eventually decided on three criteria:

 

1. A good villain as an opponent.

2. Good swordsmanship.

3. Good/pithy banter between the parties.

 

We decided you need at least two of the three to make a good duel scene. Take for example, the fight in The Princess Bride, which is one that most people think of as a classic. Sure, neither one of the parties is a "villain" per se, but they make the fencing look pretty competent and there are a lot of instant classic one liners, like "I am not left handed!" Therefore, it fulfills two of the three criteria and makes for an entertaining duel.

 

In contrast I thought the Inquisition scene failed on all three levels:

 

First, Ontranto isn't nearly enough of a heel. He doesn't cheat and he gives in far too easily and gracefully. At the end he's all "I know when I'm outmatched." I mean, say what?! That's way too much self-awareness to make up a good villain. I don't want to end the duel feeling like he's a nice guy, I want to feel glad that I kicked his butt. It would have been better to have him be completely oblivious to the fact that he was a total jerk. I also think it would have helped a lot to have introduced him earlier in the romance. Set him up as someone I look forward to dueling rather than just a random dude who shows up in a side-quest.

 

Second, the actual fencing doesn't look too good. I was particularly shocked by how it looked like my Inquisitor had never held a sword before in his life, despite my character spending the prior forty hours killing pretty much every living thing in Thedas. Plus, I played as a human noble - so one would safely assume that my character would at least have had some training on how to hold a rapier. The way it looked, I wouldn't trust my Inquisitor with a kitchen knife.

 

Third, there was almost no banter during the actual duel. I get why we couldn't actually have much combat gameplay since the scene needs to end a particular way, but I would have liked to have had some conversation options to throw taunts back and forth during the fight. The very idea of a duel to determine a romance is pretty cheesy to begin with, so if there was every a time to turn the one-liners up to 11, this was it.

 

While I see your point I think you were expecting far too much from a single scene. The scene was well enough executed to make you feel like you're in a duel, and yes the inquisitor wasn't very good with the rapier, but why would he/she be? Even with basic training his/her performances suits his/her experience and skill, and they weren't that bad. They hit a certain balance between good and bad so you can roleplay either way you want, in my case no way in hell did my Trevelyan sneak rapier training while being in the circle. As for Otranto, I'm not sure why would you want the guy to be a jerk to be honest, there are many nice guys and Josephine's family wouldn't arrange for a man who lacks respect and manners to marry their daughter who puts full faith in their decisions. As for the last point what I loved the most was the maturity and honor in the duel, while there are 1-2 taunts Otranto throws at you, and a taunt you can throw back at him (or opt not to, which was my case) it just felt.. Fine. I really enjoyed the scene, and I loved the confession after it, don't care if it's '''''cheesy'''''. 

[DeusGoddess5010]

There are people with brown hair. For example:

Also majority of ppl could have had dark brown hair which looks black

[hong]

Sooo im playing on my mage (who is romancing cass) and walk into Josie's  office...

Spoiler

And see her standing there with an Inquisition solder and a dead body at her feet. The house of repose just tried to kill her! I didn't see that on my first play through where i romanced Josie. As soon as i walked into her office and saw the body i said "OH HELL NO, YOU DID NOT JUST TRY TO KILL JOSIE"

Well, Leliana does warn you that doing it Josie's way is just wasting time....

[ButterRum]

Which is odd considering that his mother and two out of three of his potential fathers don't have brown hair...

 

And in my playthrough, the Warden had black hair, so I guess the only explanations are it's a genetic throwback and/or magic?

 

 

What if you're a dwarf or elf??? Can you still do the dark ritual with Morrigan?

 

And what if your Warden has a darker skin color or is a different race? lol

[Steve236]

How does she keep hot wax from dripping all over her clipboard?