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[Sylvianus]

 yup. Her romance content is basically the same as non-romance content, with maybe a 'Love' thrown in there. No talk of a marriage/the option to propose, no unique cutscene specific to her romance, etc.

 

You do realize that it's the same for Cassandra, Iron Bull for example, Solas too. Did you even watch or play their content ? ( both as their friend and as their romance as well ? ) I romanced both Cassandra and Josephine and I have no idea where you got the idea that specifically Josephine had the worst. You guys do love playing the victims. You can kiss Josephine while it isn't the case for Cassandra and iron Bull for example. And yes, we can't talk to Josephine about the marriage, but the inquisitor can still claim to Cassandra that he thought about asking her, which leads to allow you to headcanon the whole thing after the DLC. Josephine doesn't behave the same way with a friend as she does with her love by the way.

 

I'm kinda glad that we could have different things to be honest. Geez, that would be so boring if we all had the same content, ( yeah, let's have all the marriage stuff for everyone because we, the players, want all to be happy with exactly the same thing regardless of the meaning of the story and if it makes sense for the character ) so people can stop to be jealous about the others...  

 

Honestly only the Cullen and Sera romance seemed to have a bit more, not much, that's it. And they have also almost exactly the same thing too with a love thrown, if you remove the marriage stuff. Keep in mind that it was just a DLC anyway, there are a lot of romances, a lot of other things to do with a limited content, a limited budget. This DLC wasn't just supposed to be about " a goodbye to our companions ", with a cheap story like the Citadel DLC that made zero sense. It was actually a very serious DLC with a big story content, a strong gameplay, with many meaningful and important things to learn and happening, for the franchise and its future. 

[Xilizhra]

To be fair, at least discussing marriage with Josephine would have been perfectly in-character.

[Sylvianus]

To be fair, at least discussing marriage with Josephine would have been perfectly in-character.

 

So we got the end of the stick because we couldn't bring the marriage matter to her, regardless of the content ? That's it ? Really ?

 

The context wasn't good at all for that, Josephine was busy with diplomacy, it wasn't a good time for the inquisitor to bother her with this light but important subject, so she can remain focused ? You could, like would say Cassandra to my inquisitor ( as her romance ) ask/ talk to Josephine about marriying her in a better and romantic moment and context after ?  

 

Also, if we bring the marriage matter with Cassandra, it's because she talks first to us about it, ( because of Varric, ) and not because the inquisitor brought the topic himself. He had obviously other things to think lol. 

[Xilizhra]

So we got the end of the stick because we couldn't bring the marriage matter to her, regardless of the content ? That's it ? Really ?

 

The context wasn't good at all for that, Josephine was busy with diplomacy, it wasn't a good time for the inquisitor to bother her with this light but important subject, so she can remain focused ? You could, like would say Cassandra to my inquisitor ( as her romance ) ask/ talk to Josephine about marriying her in a better and romantic moment and context after ?  

 

Also, if we bring the marriage matter with Cassandra, it's because she talks first to us about it, ( because of Varric, ) and not because the inquisitor brought the topic himself. He had obviously others things to think lol. 

I'm saying nothing about which romance had it the worst. I'm saying only that marriage would be a highly in-character topic for Josephine.

[Iakus]

You do realize that it's the same for Cassandra, Iron Bull for example, Solas too. Did you even watch or play their content ? ( both as their friend and as their romance as well ? ) I romanced both Cassandra and Josephine and I have no idea where you got the idea that specifically Josephine had the worst. You guys do love to play the victims. You can kiss Josephine while it isn't the case for Cassandra and iron Bull for example. And yes, we can't talk to Josephine about the marriage, but the inquisitor can still claim to Cassandra that he thought about asking her, which leads to allow you to headcanon the whole thing after the DLC. Josephine doesn't behave the same way with a friend as she does with her love by the way.

 

To be fair, I did encounter one piece of romance banter with Cassandra, but it required Vivienne to be Divine and in the group.

[Sylvianus]

To be fair, I did encounter one piece of romance banter with Cassandra, but it required Vivienne to be Divine and in the group.

 

To what are you referring exactly in my quote ? Because by talking several times to Josephine in Halamshiral, you have several sweet romance banters too, where she shows how much she cares about you and where you choose how you answer with the wheel. For example before going to the mirror, and after returning from it. So, it seems both romances have that kind of thing.

[Iakus]

To what are you referring exactly in my quote ? Because by talking several times to Josephine in Halamshiral, you have several sweet romance banters too, where she shows how much she cares about you and where you choose how you answer with the wheel. For example before going to the mirror, and after returning from it. So, it seems both romances have that kind of thing.

I confess I have not played through my Josephine romance yet, but you seemed to indicate that aside from an occassional rephrasing, there was little dialogue differences between romanced and nonromanced.  I was just pointing out one specific instance in teh Cassandra romance wich was specific to her being the LI.

[Sylvianus]

I meant in the cutscenes, since this is what I supposed the poster above was talking about, when he said everything was the same. Anyway, he is totally wrong, kissing Josephine is a unique content, and with the heart icon, you do have the possibility to have different interactions with her, as it exactly happened in DAII with the love interests, and in the main game in DAI, lol. 

 

When I said Josephine doesn't behave the same way with her romance, I didn't mean that it wasn't the same for Cassandra, just wanted to add that it wasn't true that it was exactly the same between romanced / nonromanced. 

 

I know that they are minor but meaningful  and specific differences between romanced/ nonromanced in a playthrough in both romances. =)

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Don't remember if these were ever posted here. Cosplay by Minus10GradCelsius
 

 

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That's an absolutely incredible cosplay.

[Xilizhra]

That's an absolutely incredible cosplay.

I'm looking, but I can't quite tell if she matched the triangular pattern of moles down and to the right of her mouth (a pattern that appears in every woman with a certain complexion in DAI, that you can never unsee). Not that it makes the cosplay bad if she didn't, but I see what looks like one in the right position, but I can't tell if the other two are covered by her hair.

[Joe25]

This is totally Josephine's wedding dress.

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[SmilesJA]

 

 

Honestly only the Cullen and Sera romance seemed to have a bit more, not much, that's it. And they have also almost exactly the same thing too with a love thrown, if you remove the marriage stuff. Keep in mind that it was just a DLC anyway, there are a lot of romances, a lot of other things to do with a limited content, a limited budget. This DLC wasn't just supposed to be about " a goodbye to our companions ", with a cheap story like the Citadel DLC that made zero sense. It was actually a very serious DLC with a big story content, a strong gameplay, with many meaningful and important things to learn and happening, for the franchise and its future. 

 

Bleh! They can get married, but not Josephine?

[Sylvianus]

Bleh! They can get married, but not Josephine?

 

Sylvia apparently explained that she wanted to create something she always wanted to implement with the opera stuff ( I don't think we can blame her for that ), and that for Josephine, it wouldn't feel right for example without her family around ( especially her sister Yvette who I suppose would hate her sister for not inviting her to her marriage ) , which I totally approved after reflection since family is definitely a big deal for this character. 

 

Cullen is a man who always hated fluffy stuff, the noble game unlike Josie, he doesn't care being far away from his family and he is a common guy, and you know how is Sera, so it totally makes sense for them to get suddenly and quickly married alone, without anyone else around, without any preparation and invitations, as if it wasn't much, as if it wasn't a big deal.

[Xilizhra]

So, hmmm. I personally think it rather unlikely that Josephine would marry a female LI due to not having the same urge to subvert marriage expectations as Sera, but would anyone here disagree? Also, for an elf Inquisitor, what style of marriage would it be? A custom one blending aspects of different cultures? Would Josephine get nearly as much pleasure out of the planning/organizing process as she would the wedding itself?

[NeverlandHunter]

Bleh! They can get married, but not Josephine?

I think Josephine would be the type to enjoy a big wedding with family and friends that she could tediously plan out to be perfect. Sera isn't the type to want all that attention, and although I thought it was a little weird with Cullen, but he did word it like he just wanted to be married to you with none of that other crap that goes into weddings (still weird that they didn't invite a couple close friends though!).

 

Trying to picture Josephine as bridezilla   even she has to snap under stress at a certain point, right?

[Xilizhra]

I think Josephine would be the type to enjoy a big wedding with family and friends that she could tediously plan out to be perfect. Sera isn't the type to want all that attention, and although I thought it was a little weird with Cullen, but he did word it like he just wanted to be married to you with none of that other crap that goes into weddings (still weird that they didn't invite a couple close friends though!).

 

Trying to picture Josephine as bridezilla   even she has to snap under stress at a certain point, right?

She didn't snap when fighting Corypheus, I really doubt she would here. The only times I've seen Josephine be legitimately distressed, even, are after the fall of Haven and in the duel scene.

[thats1evildude]

She fussed quite a bit over the victory celebration.

[Xilizhra]

She fussed quite a bit over the victory celebration.

Indeed, but she was actually enjoying fussing over it.

[NeverlandHunter]

She didn't snap when fighting Corypheus, I really doubt she would here. The only times I've seen Josephine be legitimately distressed, even, are after the fall of Haven and in the duel scene.

Well in Trespasser

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she kind of freaked out a bit, justifiably, of course.

Still a weddings a special occasion, I've seen it turn the nicest, most patient people into monsters

[Sifr]

I've always imagined that even if both of them expressed interest in marriage, the Inquisitor would probably have to journey to Antiva to formally get permission from her parents first before they could "officially" pop the question to her... as well as figure out some way to propose to her that's suitably romantic enough.

 

It just seems like the sort of gesture and following of the tradtional rules of courtship that Josephine would appreciate.

[Iakus]

Sylvia apparently explained that she wanted to create something she always wanted to implement with the opera stuff ( I don't think we can blame her for that ), and that for Josephine, it wouldn't feel right for example without her family around ( especially her sister Yvette who I suppose would hate her sister for not inviting her to her marriage ) , which I totally approved after reflection since family is definitely a big deal for this character. 

 

Josephine strikes me as the type to want a huge wedding with hundreds of guests, he father giving her away, sisters carrying her train, the whole ball of wax.

 

So, hmmm. I personally think it rather unlikely that Josephine would marry a female LI due to not having the same urge to subvert marriage expectations as Sera, but would anyone here disagree? Also, for an elf Inquisitor, what style of marriage would it be? A custom one blending aspects of different cultures? Would Josephine get nearly as much pleasure out of the planning/organizing process as she would the wedding itself?

Marriage, especially among nobles of Thedas, seems to be more about contractual obligations, inheritance, family alliances, and such.  Aside from providing an heir for the Montilyet family (and with several siblings, an heir is not exactly a major issue), marrying the female Inquisitor is quite a catch.  Even without the Inquisition itself, she is still a voice that commands respect.  The Inquisitor has become a major political figure in Thedas, with plenty of connections, potentially including the new Viscount of Kirkwall, a Tevinter magister, the Red Jennies, and even the Divine. Plus the current Empress/Emperor of Orlais owes the throne to the Inquisitor.  These are connections that can be drawn on to advance Josephine's family's fortunes.

[Morroian]

Currently watching Allegra's stream and she is hilarious.

[Sylvianus]

Josephine strikes me as the type to want a huge wedding with hundreds of guests, he father giving her away, sisters carrying her train, the whole ball of wax.

 

This is what I always thought too, and the explanations of Sylvia made me even more confident thinking that way about that. That's why I also find totally fine why we didn't get the option to get immediately married in Trepasser, in such context, like it happened with Sera and Cullen. That's kinda lame to me to offer such little thing to a woman you definitely love and who might dream of big romantic and traditional weddings because you want it to be done quickly, yeah let's done today darling, I have a urgent desire ! XD 

 

I particularly don't see the point of doing such thing except from the point of view of Cullen, with avoiding all the crap ( invitations, preparation, etc )

 

I've always imagined that even if both of them expressed interest in marriage, the Inquisitor would probably have to journey to Antiva to formally get permission from her parents first before they could "officially" pop the question to her... as well as figure out some way to propose to her that's suitably romantic enough.

 

It just seems like the sort of gesture and following of the tradtional rules of courtship that Josephine would appreciate.

 

Yeah that too. The inquisitor asking to her parents first before wanting to do anything, as if it were already decided without their approval, is definitely something that Josephine would appreciate lol. 

 

I like how my character is like " ugh, can't stop staring " by the way, He is right though, that's a lovely sight !

 

[Remki]

I've always imagined that even if both of them expressed interest in marriage, the Inquisitor would probably have to journey to Antiva to formally get permission from her parents first before they could "officially" pop the question to her... as well as figure out some way to propose to her that's suitably romantic enough.

 

It just seems like the sort of gesture and following of the tradtional rules of courtship that Josephine would appreciate.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Not only would Josephine value tradition, I just can't see her doing a small wedding. I doubt she'd be bridezilla (ok, maybe a little) but she'd definitely want all her family and her closest friends there. And my personal Inquisitor wouldn't get married without at least the inner circle and companions there (and maybe some of her more fond carta contacts). So I'm honestly really glad that BioWare didn't add in a wedding for Josie. Budget and time constraints wouldn't have been able to match the grandeur that it would deserve. 

[Lukas Trevelyan]

*snip*

 

Josephine's balcony scene is definitely the best one in my opinion. 

"Your words are so sweet, they ache."