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[Walter Black]

Dorian and Iron Bull get together if unromanced by the Inquisitor, as do Sera and Dagna, both showing up in their respective Epilogues. I'm not saying Josephine should have meekly submitted to an arranged marriage, only that in her quest to resolve the matter she could have  gotten to know and fell for the real Ortranto on her own. Yes Ortranto's family has shady dealings, but the man himself was honorable. It's not like betrothed people haven't sometimes fallen in love in real life. Certainly Josie doesn't need a spouse, but if Quizzie is already taken, why deny happiness?

 

I will never understand this whole "the Player Character is the only person NPCs can be allowed to find true love with," attitude.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Dorian and Iron Bull get together if unromanced by the Inquisitor, as do Sera and Dagna, both showing up in their respective Epilogues. I'm not saying Josephine should have meekly submitted to an arranged marriage, only that in her quest to resolve the matter she could have  gotten to know and fell for the real Ortranto on her own. Yes Ortranto's family has shady dealings, but the man himself was honorable. It's not like betrothed people haven't sometimes fallen in love in real life. Certainly Josie doesn't need a spouse, but if Quizzie is already taken, why deny happiness?

 

I will never understand this whole "the Player Character is the only person NPCs can be allowed to find true love with," attitude.

The Dorian and The Iron Bull epilogue slide only occurs if the Inquisitor knows about the relationship which only occurs after a party banter and then asking them about it. The Sera and Dagna coupling has ingame evidence via Sera's journal. So in both cases the Inquisitor knows about those character's relationship status. Josephine never tells the Inquisitor about him unless you are in a romance with her so it would be strange to see that in an epilogue slide. It would be like "And then Harding settled down with her love" being an epilogue slide when she never tells us she is in a relationship. Where are you getting the idea that it is denying Josephine happiness? 

[Walter Black]

So what then, companions should put their lives on hold until the PC shows an interest? It's not their fault if you don't pay attention. Companion Quests as a way of influencing a character one way or the other is one thing, but saying they literally have no life without the player is bad storytelling. Take Soris for example: in the City Elf Origin he was ready to run for the hills at the thought of starting a family, and there was no indication he could be attracted to humans. Yet he married a human woman and had several children with her, all without Tabris' involvement.

 

Perhaps Josephine and Ortranto not getting together in her epilogue was less "denying happiness", but more of a missed opportunity. It's Josephine's usual MO to find the most efficient solution that makes everyone happy, so in her dealings I don't see why she wouldn't have at least met with Ortranto to make up her own mind about him. He's romantic and honorable, many of the same qualities she enjoyed in the Inquisitor, so what's the harm in her seeing where it could lead? Again, I am not saying she needs a spouse, but given the choice between having and not having love (if unromanced by the Inquisitor) why not choose with?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So what then, companions should put their lives on hold until the PC shows an interest? It's not their fault if you don't pay attention. Companion Quests as a way of influencing a character one way or the other is one thing, but saying they literally have no life without the player is bad storytelling. Take Soris for example: in the City Elf Origin he was ready to run for the hills at the thought of starting a family, and there was no indication he could be attracted to humans. Yet he married a human woman and had several children with her, all without Tabris' involvement.

What are you talking about? She never mentions anything about Otranto unless you are romancing her. How can you pay attention to something that never comes up?

Nobody's saying she has no life without the player, but as her character has shown she likes to keep her personal life personal. 

You're blowing this out of proportion and putting words in other people's mouths. 

 

Perhaps Josephine and Ortranto not getting together in her epilogue was less "denying happiness", but more of a missed opportunity. It's Josephine's usual MO to find the most efficient solution that makes everyone happy, so in her dealings I don't see why she wouldn't have at least met with Ortranto to make up her own mind about him. He's romantic and honorable, many of the same qualities she enjoyed in the Inquisitor, so what's the harm in her seeing where it could lead? Again, I am not saying she needs a spouse, but given the choice between having and not having love (if unromanced by the Inquisitor) why not choose with?

Who says she didn't? She could very well have but never told you because quite frankly, what business is it of yours if you aren't in a relationship with her?

I get it, you wanted Otranto to be mentioned. But for a variety of valid reasons, he wasn't. 

 

Let me ask this: What objectively good reason would there be for him to get mentioned, when the protagonist either broke it off or never heard of him?

[Walter Black]

A couple of reasons:

 

1. To present a living and believable world that moves on.

 

2. To have companions with their own lives and stories beyond the Protagonist or main plot.

 

3. To combat the whole "if the PC wasn't there it didn't happen," nonsense.

 

4. To show that maybe Bioware learned their lesson from Origins and can treat the Epilogues as valid outcomes in an omniscient, third person narrative, rather than easily retconned "rumors".

 

5. To guarantee that one way or another, Ms. Montilyet can find love .

 

Funny aside, on my last playthrough I decided to romance Josephine. When I got to the duel and first laid eyes on Ortranto, he was a dead ringer for my Inquisitor; not just looks but personality as well. When my slow brain made the connection, I laughed so hard I nearly fell out of my chair .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

http://starshipsorce...y-josie-and-got

[HuldraDancer]

Hey sorry I know I asked this in here before but I've picked DAI again after several months now that I can actually play Trespasser and the other DLCs and what not, but is there any other combination to get trigger Blackwall crushing on Josephine besides bringing Cole along? I usually go rogue so not really ideal to have him in the party a lot. I know it doesn't really go anywhere from what I heard but I still would like to eventually see it. 

 

Also I do have another question about Ruffles's romance cutscenes do any of them get all weird if you use certain races like are dwarfs suddenly as tall as humans during her romance scenes? Cause it's been on my list for a long while to romance her with a dwarf just haven't gotten around to it yet.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hey sorry I know I asked this in here before but I've picked DAI again after several months now that I can actually play Trespasser and the other DLCs and what not, but is there any other combination to get trigger Blackwall crushing on Josephine besides bringing Cole along? I usually go rouge so not really ideal to have him in the party a lot. I know it doesn't really go anywhere from what I heard but I still would like to eventually see it. 

 

Also I do have another question about Ruffles's romance cutscenes do any of them get all weird if you use certain races like are dwarfs suddenly as tall as humans during her romance scenes? Cause it's been on my list for a long while to romance her with a dwarf just haven't gotten around to it yet.

If I recall correctly, Sera, Varric, and Vivienne will also make a comment about it in party banter which triggers it.

Thank goodness it never goes anywhere. 

 

As for the second question, none that I have seen or heard. The animations with her and the Inquisitor are all proportioned correctly as far as I know. 

[HuldraDancer]

If I recall correctly, Sera, Varric, and Vivienne will also make a comment about it in party banter which triggers it.

Thank goodness it never goes anywhere. 

 

As for the second question, none that I have seen or heard. The animations with her and the Inquisitor are all proportioned correctly as far as I know. 

 

 

Ah thank you! I can bring Vivi with me then. Even if it doesn't go anywhere I still personally find the idea cute but I am the kind of person who gets horribly guilty in most of my rune factory games. Getting a love confession from someone after you married their sister is heartbreaking for me.^^; Ahem sorry got slightly rambling there.

 

Again thank you I've been wanting to romance her with a dwarf but got so worry about the animations looking awful after romancing Blackwall with a Dwarf and seeing some screenshot of Cassandra and a dwarf romance.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Ah thank you! I can bring Vivi with me then. Even if it doesn't go anywhere I still personally find the idea cute but I am the kind of person who gets horribly guilty in most of my rune factory games. Getting a love confession from someone after you married their sister is heartbreaking for me.^^; Ahem sorry got slightly rambling there.

Actually, it seems I may have been wrong about Vivienne. I can't find the dialogue about it on the page. I swear there was though, with Vivienne accusing Rainier of essentially being a stalker. I do know that Sera and Varric do, since here is the banter:

Spoiler

Sera: So. You gonna squeeze up to her or not?

Blackwall: What? Squeeze up to who?

Sera: Lady Josie. I've seen you, doing that knightly stuff.

Blackwall: Maker, Sera. No. Stay out of it.

Sera: (Laughs.) You're all shy! What, you think you can't treat her right?

Blackwall: No, it's not––––

Sera: I'll show you. I just need a peach. A ripe one, because if you do it right? Ripe! Down there.

Blackwall: Please, no peaches, ripe or otherwise.

Sera: Well I can't teach you bananas! That would be like showing you swords! Oh! Remember, do not use it like a sword.

Blackwall: How do I make this stop?

***********

Varric: I know this is a radical suggestion, but have you considered just... talking to her?

Blackwall: No. Never occurred to me. End of story.

***********

Blackwall: So... Worst place you've ever been?

Varric: Well that would depend on whether or not I was there alone.

Blackwall: You're gonna make me talk to her, aren't you?

Varric: Just try "Hello"!

***********

Varric: So... Hero, you and Josephine...

Blackwall: No. No, you are not getting me into this conversation.

Varric: Oh, content to pine in silence, gazing at the dear ambassador from afar!

Blackwall: Can we talk about something else? Revasa! Revasa is the best, you were right!

Varric: I could help, you know. Nothing stirs the heart like a well-written word.

Blackwall: You're suggesting I woo the lady with someone else's words? You really want me on that path again?

Varric: Oh... yeah. Bad idea. Let's just forget I said anything.

 

Again thank you I've been wanting to romance her with a dwarf but got so worry about the animations looking awful after romancing Blackwall with a Dwarf and seeing some screenshot of Cassandra and a dwarf romance.

Yeah, I just looked it up on Youtube and the proportions are never off. For example instead of the Inquisitor growing to kiss her it shows Josephine bending her body down to kiss you. 

[HuldraDancer]

 

Actually, it seems I may have been wrong about Vivienne. I can't find the dialogue about it on the page. I do know that Sera and Varric do, since here is the banter:

Spoiler

Sera: So. You gonna squeeze up to her or not?

Blackwall: What? Squeeze up to who?

Sera: Lady Josie. I've seen you, doing that knightly stuff.

Blackwall: Maker, Sera. No. Stay out of it.

Sera: (Laughs.) You're all shy! What, you think you can't treat her right?

Blackwall: No, it's not––––

Sera: I'll show you. I just need a peach. A ripe one, because if you do it right? Ripe! Down there.

Blackwall: Please, no peaches, ripe or otherwise.

Sera: Well I can't teach you bananas! That would be like showing you swords! Oh! Remember, do not use it like a sword.

Blackwall: How do I make this stop?

***********

Varric: I know this is a radical suggestion, but have you considered just... talking to her?

Blackwall: No. Never occurred to me. End of story.

***********

Blackwall: So... Worst place you've ever been?

Varric: Well that would depend on whether or not I was there alone.

Blackwall: You're gonna make me talk to her, aren't you?

Varric: Just try "Hello"!

***********

Varric: So... Hero, you and Josephine...

Blackwall: No. No, you are not getting me into this conversation.

Varric: Oh, content to pine in silence, gazing at the dear ambassador from afar!

Blackwall: Can we talk about something else? Revasa! Revasa is the best, you were right!

Varric: I could help, you know. Nothing stirs the heart like a well-written word.

Blackwall: You're suggesting I woo the lady with someone else's words? You really want me on that path again?

Varric: Oh... yeah. Bad idea. Let's just forget I said anything.

 

Yeah, I just looked it up on Youtube and the proportions are never off. For example instead of the Inquisitor growing to kiss her it shows Josephine bending her body down to kiss you. 

 

 

Hmm well guess that hook up will have to wait until I roll a non rogue character then I really don't like dragging two of them around but this is good to know.

 

Ah very good to know, nice to know she actually bends over instead of my character magically growing. Wish more animations were like that but ah well.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hmm well guess that hook up will have to wait until I roll a non rouge character then I really don't like dragging two of them around but this is good to know.

 

Ah very good to know, nice to know she actually bends over instead of my character magically growing. Wish more animations were like that but ah well.

As I said, I still think she says something about it. I remember her saying something like accusing him of acting like a stalker and how he isn't good enough for her. I think the page is just incomplete with that part. 

 

Yeah. Her having better animations like that may have had to do with her not having sex scenes, meaning more resources could be devoted to the other parts of the romance.

[HuldraDancer]

In that case I won't take Vivi I'll just play it safe and take one of the rogues next time I don't roll one myself.

 

I appreciate the better animations for that kind of jarring in some scenes when my dwarf is suddenly tall as a human.

 

 

 

 

Probably been shared on here but thought it was pretty adorable of Ruffles and Inky in bed.

http://sqbr.devianta...n-Bed-508138166

[HuldraDancer]

Sorry in advance for any repeats found some pics of Josie being paired up and thought they were cute, most of her and Adaar which is a lot cuter than I thought it would be. (Fourth pic is my personal fave of that bunch)

 

Spoiler

[thats1evildude]

ROGUE! It's ROGUE! Rouge is a type of cosmetic!

Anyways, nice pics.

[HuldraDancer]

Sorry spelling and I have always been on bad terms, if I don't see the red squiggly line I assume I did okay on it. I'll fix it though^^;

[Sifr]

Funny aside, on my last playthrough I decided to romance Josephine. When I got to the duel and first laid eyes on Ortranto, he was a dead ringer for my Inquisitor; not just looks but personality as well. When my slow brain made the connection, I laughed so hard I nearly fell out of my chair .

 

Plot twist, what if Otranto has been impersonating your Inquisitor since the fight and nobody noticed?

 

"Wait a second... the Anchor didn't use to be made of green glitter! You're not the Inquisitor at all!"

 

[Cribbian]

 

Yeah, I just looked it up on Youtube and the proportions are never off. For example instead of the Inquisitor growing to kiss her it shows Josephine bending her body down to kiss you. 

 

 Richard Boisvert FTW

[Hanako Ikezawa]

EA used Josephine as the character in the Dragon Age: Inquisition Valentine's Day card. 

 

Electronic Arts ‏@EA

Valentine's Day is on Sunday, so we made foldable, printable cards for you to pass out: http://bit.ly/1osvRtP 

 

[thats1evildude]

Well of course! The Inquisitor twirling Josie around is one of the most romantic images in the game.

 

I imagine it was a real b***h to animate, though.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 Richard Boisvert FTW

Yeah. He did a great job between the Josephine scenes and the other scenes he did. I still love how he sneaked the scene with the goat hitting Skyhold in, the rest of Bioware not knowing about it until they watched a draft and loving it so much it stayed. 

 

Well of course! The Inquisitor twirling Josie around is one of the most romantic images in the game.

 

I imagine it was a real b***h to animate, though.

Agreed. Probably why they used Josephine as the poster romance as well(I love that). 

[HuldraDancer]

There's a grab and twirl in the actual romance? I might need to roll something a little taller then a dwarf then. Then again part of the reason I enjoy what I've seen of Josephine's romance is the huge amount of cheese in it and the laughter it gives me.

[thats1evildude]

Here. Skip ahead to about 20:10.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=-eN0gjh_uK8

 

Dorfs get to twirl too, it just looks funny 'cause you're short.

[HuldraDancer]

How do I not remember this? I've gotten that far at least twice.  Somehow that deleted itself from my mind.

[thats1evildude]

A collection of Dragon Age babes, including Asian Josephine:

https://twitter.com/...611989510275072