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The Masked Empire and DAI's plot [Spoilers]


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#26
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I felt like they were setting up for the following:

  • Concur regarding Eluvians for fast travel
  • Concur with 3-headed faction choice, with a sub-faction choice regarding Mages v Templars
  • Great emphasis on Dalish - the characters highlighted the admirable (Felassen) and the not (the Clan).
  • Great emphasis on Chevalier moves, tactics, codes - I believe to set up Chevalier as specialization in DA:I
  • Concur regarding "unseen other" at end of book - this is almost certainly the Enemy, though whom it actually is...?
  • I expect we'll learn a great deal of the downfall of the elves via the Eluvians and the like.  Exactly who the Dalish used to be will be key to understanding the veil and magic.
  • I wonder about the nature of Felassen's "clan"...he did seem truly Dalish, albeit of exceptional nature.  Perhaps his clan was dreamers?  Perhaps they were some ancient sub-culture of the Dalish...
  • I think it probable that Felassen's "clan" will be behind the veil tear.  He alludes to Imshael of something very significant and very chaotic occurring in the near future.
  • Ser Michel's quest to find Imshael will almost certainly be in DA:I
  • I wonder if the "Unseen Other" is an entity trapped in the fade that should not be.  Meaning, originally occurrent in the real world, and banished or trapped in the Fade.  Perhaps tearing the veil is the only way back.

More later.  I really enjoyed this book, and am very excited for DA:I.  Nicely done Mr. Weekes and Bioware.



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  • I think it probable that Felassen's "clan" will be behind the veil tear.  He alludes to Imshael of something very significant and very chaotic occurring in the near future.

 

Morrigan has been saying that since DAO. Flemeth made allusion to it in DA2 as well. I doubt either of them are part of Felassen's clan, they just see the signs (or have prophetic powers, which we know Flemeth has).



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I've actually noticed between Masked Empire and Asunder there are two three-way conflicts going on in Orlais:

 

Orlesian Civil War:  Celene, Gaspard, Briala

 

Mage-Templar Conflict:  Mages, Templars, Chantry.

 

I wonder if there will be a third one?



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Obviously the city elves would never win in a straight-up war. Luckily, this is not that; the plague of demons is probably going to be Orlais' first priority, and the whole thing could in theory be resolved by negotiation from the Inquisition (after all, if we need the Eluvians, we'll have to back Briala's faction), or, failing that, a brief participation in the war.

I'm wondering if Imshael had the intent of giving the secrets to the eluvians to Briala in some way help out the demons invading at the moment. Also, how in the world does he even have access to that level of knowledge, as well as the power to create out of thin air a device that can reactivate all the dormant mirrors? And we could very well use Morrigan's expertise to counteract Briala's.



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That is if the Inquisition needs Orlesian support, which I'm starting to doubt since yesterday when BioWare announced an entire map, the Highland, as optional despite a Masked Empire character being there and being a large war camp for the Red Templars one of the antagonists of the game.


I've noticed the emphasis the developers have placed on player choice. Having the Orlesian Empire as an optional ally, and allowing the same reign of freedom with other factions, would allow for variant and divergent playthroughs with different characters, avoiding treading the same linear narrative by allowing the player to handle things dramatically different from one run to the next.

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I'm wondering if Imshael had the intent of giving the secrets to the eluvians to Briala in some way help out the demons invading at the moment. Also, how in the world does he even have access to that level of knowledge, as well as the power to create out of thin air a device that can reactivate all the dormant mirrors? And we could very well use Morrigan's expertise to counteract Briala's.

Or we can use Morrigan's expertise to aid Briala so that we can not only get some actual ****** progress on elven liberation started, but use the Eluvians to help out the Inquisition.



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I've noticed the emphasis the developers have placed on player choice. Having the Orlesian Empire as an optional ally, and allowing the same reign of freedom with other factions, would allow for variant and divergent playthroughs with different characters, avoiding treading the same linear narrative by allowing the player to handle things dramatically different from one run to the next.

I guess the trade off, if you can't gain both, is that one choice grants an army, the other nigh-unlimited teleportation capabilities.



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Or we can use Morrigan's expertise to aid Briala so that we can not only get some actual ****** progress on elven liberation started, but use the Eluvians to help out the Inquisition.

Haha, that too. I want the elves of Orlais as well as Gaspard and Celene to all get along, though that is gonna be hard as hell to accomplish.



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Haha, that too. I want the elves of Orlais as well as Gaspard and Celene to all get along, though that is gonna be hard as hell to accomplish.

Gaspard's a danger to every other nation in the world. He probably has to go. Celene... I would rather destabilize Orlais to the point where it can no longer be a threat, but if we have to use her somehow, I will provided she and Briala can reconcile.



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Kal-Shirok is north of Nevarran lands (the Blasted Hills), if we are not going to Nevarra despite it being right beside Orlais, we are certainly not going across Nevarran territory to Kal-Shirok.
 

We still hit some kind of dwarven area, based off what we saw in the Discover Dragon Age trailer, though I suppose that might be Orzammar or just an entrance to the Deep Roads.



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Gaspard's a danger to every other nation in the world. He probably has to go. Celene... I would rather destabilize Orlais to the point where it can no longer be a threat, but if we have to use her somehow, I will provided she and Briala can reconcile.

Nah, I think we are gonna need both Gaspard and Celene working together to solve this problem.



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Nah, I think we are gonna need both Gaspard and Celene working together to solve this problem.

Perhaps we'll need two out of three working together, but I doubt all three.



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i would love to see a chevalier class, as for the whole 3 sided thing... yeah we are goin to have to pick in terms of gaspard and celene...  then after that its either save the elves or werewolf them like we did in origins



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Or we can use Morrigan's expertise to aid Briala so that we can not only get some actual ****** progress on elven liberation started, but use the Eluvians to help out the Inquisition.


I don't see why Morrigan would even care about Briala; she seems to have her own plans, and the OGB is involved if the dark ritual was enacted. I can see Briala as an optional ally; she does extend her offer to Mihris to accept Dalish assistance in helping all the elves, and Mihris is looking for a clan to join with in the Dales since hers was massacred. We should be meeting at least one clan, given the recent update from the Bioware blog about the Dales. As Felassan noted about Briala's plan, "You prolong their fight, and in the chaos, your people work free from their bonds?"

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  • Great emphasis on Chevalier moves, tactics, codes - I believe to set up Chevalier as specialization in DA:I

 

It may be wishful thinking but they did say that our specializations would play a greater role in DAI. It's possible they intend to provide an option to become a Chevalier which would lead to NPCs expecting the Inquisitor to act in a manner that befits the Chevalliers hence why the book expanded so much on their code.



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It may be wishful thinking but they did say that our specializations would play a greater role in DAI. It's possible they intend to provide an option to become a Chevalier which would lead to NPCs expecting the Inquisitor to act in a manner that befits the Chevalliers hence why the book expanded so much on their code.

I'd kill for a spec like that in DAI. I'd spec as a Chevalier and Templar, when I eventually try out my human warrior.


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Perhaps we'll need two out of three working together, but I doubt all three.

I wonder if you could pull a Rannoch, and get all three to sit down, shut up, and work together, at least until the Veil tear situation is taken care of.


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I don't see why Morrigan would even care about Briala; she seems to have her own plans, and the OGB is involved if the dark ritual was enacted. I can see Briala as an optional ally; she does extend her offer to Mihris to accept Dalish assistance in helping all the elves, and Mihris is looking for a clan to join with in the Dales since hers was massacred. We should be meeting at least one clan, given the recent update from the Bioware blog about the Dales. As Felassan noted about Briala's plan, "You prolong their fight, and in the chaos, your people work free from their bonds?"

I am hoping that Felassan's clan is the one we meet in DAI, cause I really liked his character.



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It may be wishful thinking but they did say that our specializations would play a greater role in DAI. It's possible they intend to provide an option to become a Chevalier which would lead to NPCs expecting the Inquisitor to act in a manner that befits the Chevalliers hence why the book expanded so much on their code.


I'd wager there would be a passage of time for training, then, and the protagonist would need to be of noble birth. I'm wondering what specializations will be available this time. They suggested only one may only be available per protagonist, to give greater emphasis and reactivity towards our choice.

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I wonder if you could pull a Rannoch, and get all three to sit down, shut up, and work together, at least until the Veil tear situation is taken care of.

Rannoch just had two participants, though.



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yeah, it would be kind of weird with an elf chevalier...  maybe just like the templar specialization, just get the taits and abilities without being affiliated with the orginization



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I'd wager there would be a passage of time for training, then, and the protagonist would need to be of noble birth. I'm wondering what specializations will be available this time. They suggested only one may only be available per protagonist, to give greater emphasis and reactivity towards our choice.

I'd be surprised if there isn't an updated Keeper spec, since we have Dalish mages this time around. Probably blood magic, templar, and bard. And I too believe they could limit it to only one spec this time around as well.



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yeah, it would be kind of weird with an elf chevalier...  maybe just like the templar specialization, just get the taits and abilities without being affiliated with the orginization

Not necessarily. Well, Michel was given a pass by Gaspard on his elf blood. Maybe if you gain Gaspard's respect, he'll train you in the specialization.



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Rannoch just had two participants, though.

Obviously, but same principle.



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I am hoping that Felassan's clan is the one we meet in DAI, cause I really liked his character.


You mean the clan for the elven Inquisitor? Felassan's cryptic warnings about his clan made me think there would be some issue in meeting them, if they were a random encounter.